YouTube Gets Its Own Social Network With Launch of YouTube Community (techcrunch.com) 73
The earlier reports were right when they said YouTube was working on launching its own social networking service for content creators. Instead of the "YouTube Backstage" branding, YouTube has decided to call their social networking service "YouTube Community," which allows content creators to use text, GIFs, and images to better engage viewers. Given the controversy surrounding YouTube in regard to demonetizing videos that are not deemed "friendly to advertisers," many YouTube creators have been or are thinking about leaving the site and joining competing services. These new tools are designed to help keep creators from departing to competing platforms. TechCrunch reports: YouTube has been testing the new service over the past several months with a handful of creators in order to gain feedback. It's launching the service into public beta with this group of early testers, and will make it available to a wider group of creators in the "month's ahead," it says. Access to this expanded feature set is made available to the creators and their viewers by way of a new "Community" tab on their channels. From here, creators can share things like text posts, images, GIFs and other content, which the audience can thumbs up and down, like the videos themselves, as well as comment on. Viewers will see these posts in their "Subscriptions" feed in the YouTube mobile application, and can also choose to receive push notifications on these posts from their favorite creators, YouTube says." Only time will tell whether or not this new move will be better received than YouTube's Google+ integration...
Yes, because YouTube comments make great dialogue! (Score:2, Insightful)
NOT.
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'The purpose of most comments sections on is not to promote intelligent discussion, but simply to create a (futile, pointless) way for people to emotionally "engage" with the content, which increases their loyalty to the site and the odds they'll come back. Only the thinnest pretense that their angrily-typed essay will ever be read by anyone is sufficient'
For a moment there I thought you were talking about Slashdot.
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Listen, it's fashionable to hate on YouTube comments... but scanning through the comments is half the fun of a YouTube video.
Yes, lots of them are stupid. There are nuggets of comedy gold mined out that that stupid.
I remember someone posted the full sound track of The Jockey from Left 4 Dead 2. If you haven't played the game then The Jockey grabs someone's head and starts a mad laugh. The laugh gets more and more hysterical until he's basically screaming.
So, I watching this video which contains the full tra
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While I agree that the majority of the YouTube comments are indeed "noise" (such as the redundant "I'm watching this in year ####") there is still a few that are add a useful / interesting "signal". I've seen people add meta-data such as:
* the Song Name, Band, and/or Albumb,
* Interesting links about the topic at hand
The biggest problem with YoutTube's comment section is that slow repetitive partial loading. Both /. and reddit allow you to link directly to a message, YouTube doesn't -- this makes finding a
If Google+ failed, lets try with another name! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:If Google+ failed, lets try with another name! (Score:5, Interesting)
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I've had my YouTube account pre-Google takeover.
They kept prodding me to change to a Google+ account but I've always refused to do that OR to link it to a google account.
I've not been able to comment on my stuff or
Re:If Google+ failed, lets try with another name! (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/fut... [slate.com]
Youtube never liked G+ (Score:2)
Youtube never liked G+. They didn't like the integration removing their independence and they only gave in and G-plussed themselves when Vic Gundotra put on his "I AM THE VOICE OF LARRY" [1] act and ordered them to do so. I am sure they didn't like G+ then either and were happy it failed.
This is Youtube taking control of their community services and features instead of letting the G+ guys do it, and providing better community features than Youtube had before it got G-plussed. Youtube always felt it had a se
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:kappa:
Whats missing (Score:3)
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Here's a Chrome extension to fix the problem: https://chrome.google.com/webs... [google.com]
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User CSS to fix it:
body[data-spf-name="watch"] #player {
position: fixed;
top: 60px;
z-index: 3;
left: 50%;
margin-left: -501px;
}
Oh, this should be good (Score:3)
Have you ever seen the "community" over at YouTube?
https://youtu.be/n8M6m5UiDaI [youtu.be]
Enjoy the comments over there, but don't blame me if you end up drinking rat poison.
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The most widely viewed YouTube videos do tend to end up with pretty terrible comments, but there are quite a few smaller, more niche channels have some of the nicest commenters I've encountered anywhere on the internet.
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While many videos do get a lot of low grade comments, what the hell did you expect on a video about the alt-right and Men Going Their Own Way?
Money for nothing (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, we'll demonetize all your videos and you'll not be able to pay your bills anymore, but hey, here's an another pathetic Facebook wannabe/comments on steroids where you and other youtubers can mourn your imminent bankruptcy.
... and chicks for free. (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry, growing up in the 80s sort of drilled that song into my subconscious...
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No, no chicks, that's against the policy now.
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For this to work, you still had to provide some kind of "valuable service". Yes, a kid yelling to the camera can be that, if there are people who consider it valuable enough to watch that junk.
Free market at work, give people what they want and they will let you earn money with it. What's wrong about that?
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I don't get the reason. It's not like I am forced to watch the shit, and YouTube's algo has at least this far been good enough to spare me the crap in my "recommended for you" pile, so what's the problem?
Apparently there is a market for it and some people like to watch it. Because else, well, people would stop making that kind of movies. I don't have to like them, I can very easily just ignore them. And so can you. They also have no impact on people wanting to make other videos, like, say, videos I do want
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Demonetise your videos, tough, suck it up and get a real miserable job like the majority. From a non-you tuber context, I guess that means if you see an ad before the video than that you tuber is an advertiser friendly arse hole very likely to lie to you, to sell what ever it is they are being paid to sell you. No ad and probably they are, well, not advertiser friendly and likely to be genuine in their videos.
This as a broad policy driven by nothing but the Big Shit from Alphabet and pure cynical greed.
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A blocking feature would be great, just to filter out the crap. Imagine Usenet without a kill file.
Oh, wait, sorry I forgot that blocking shit is censorship and does irreparable harm to arseholes I don't want to listen to anyway.
Re:Money for nothing (Score:4, Insightful)
ME deciding what I want to see is fine.
YOU deciding what I am allowed to see it not.
Do you finally get the difference?
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This argument is made when people suggest adding optional filters. The ggAutoblocker is a great example. Totally voluntary, gives control to users, but condemned as censorship. Disabling comments on YouTube is another example (remember when GamerGate thought that Sarkeesian was Jewish?)
You have some crazy assumptions about me.
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To be honest, I didn't really follow GamerGate too closely. It even took me a while to understand what the hell is going on at all. As soon as I did, I wished I hadn't wasted my time.
And I have no idea why it would be of any relevance what religion Sarkeesian has.
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I was referring to this: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/s... [twitter.com]
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My perpetual reminder that adding -gate to a "controversy" means that it's mostly hot air used to inflate a balloon and hoping that associating it with one of the biggest scandals in US political history would give it some attention... anyway.
It's a caricature. And, let's face it, she doesn't really have any features that lend themselves to caricature exaggeration (though her earring hoops could be used, more prominently than in that caricature). Anyway. I don't see any association with this picture being "
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To be fair it makes more sense in the wider context of what they were saying. There was a rumour that she was Jewish and trying to steal people's money via Kickstarter. Kinda shocking to see people repeating that sort of thing, often seemingly unaware of the historical context, let alone the attacks on her.
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If you implement that people had to see the majority of the video to "count", most videos would be MUCH shorter than they are now. Which would probably be good for some videos, but for others, all this would create is people gaming the system by splitting up their videos even more than they already do. We'd essentially get the video version of those ridiculous webpages where you have a letter-page sized article cut into 10 half-screen sized snippets to ensure you load 10 different ads if you want to see the
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Seriously?
Conservative thoughts and being a white guy are now considered objectionable content?
Geez, I knew it was thought of as unfashionable at least in liberal circles, but "objectionable"...?
Wow, just.......wow.
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Nobody every made any sort of guarantee that you could make money off making videos and uploading them to Youtube.
Competing Service? (Score:3)
whos a competitor to YouTube? vimeo has limite video plays
http://www.dailydot.com/upstre... [dailydot.com] ??
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If everything fails, there's certainly a video service in China. As long as you just post stuff that isn't against their party, you should be ok. They have real problems, they don't give a shit about our imaginary ones.
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Dailymotion is a decent option, a few of the Youtubers I follow also upload their videos there.
Is that what these annoying fucking alerts are? (Score:3)
YouTube Gets Its Own Social Network With Launch of YouTube Community
Is that what these goddamn alerts on my cell phone are? Jeeezus.
Dear Screwtape (Score:4, Insightful)
Today I expanded YouTube comments section to social network. Tomorrow I will make it mandatory to use to access any other Google service. This is all as planned, and I will finally succeed into turning Internet into private hell that is Youtube comments section.
Sincerely yours,
Wormwood
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Definitely. Who wouldn't want to go "backstage"? Backstage is the forbidden area where only the really cool kids can go, losers like you or me ain't allowed there. And now I can go there? Really? Oh my, sign me up! I'm cool now!
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Sorry, sweetheart, but you're too small for this ride. Maybe when you're a little older.
Let's just get ahead of the curve here: (Score:5, Insightful)
We have just announced on the Official Google Blog that we will soon retire YOUTUBE COMMUNITY. We know YOUTUBE COMMUNITY has a devoted following who will be very sad to see it go. We're sad too.
There are two simple reasons for this: usage of YOUTUBE COMMUNITY has declined, and as a company we're pouring all of our energy into fewer products. We think that kind of focus will make for a better user experience.
Thank you again for using YOUTUBE COMMUNITY as your COMMUNITY platform.
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I know right lol. All they have to do is add a few good features to Youtube channels like a 128 character status update and allow comments on it. It could completely kill Twitter overnight. Instead they seem to create entire new shitty platforms that are almost identical with a different name (Gaming, Red, etc..). Just add a few features is that so hard? It's like Google doesn't think it's a good product unless it has menus and options inside of menus with obscure icons spread out to the four corners o
Didn't we already do this? (Score:3)
Google + ?
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Hmm... Google+... in the light of the recent changes in YouTube's policy, why not call it doubleplusgoogle?
Ok... (Score:4, Insightful)
that will end well (Score:2)
We didn't start the flame war (Score:2)
peeps were hating on it before I left my comment.
No (Score:2)
No. Not just "no", but "FUCK NO".
Nope (Score:3, Insightful)
"Given the controversy surrounding YouTube in regard to demonetizing videos that are not deemed "friendly to advertisers," many YouTube creators have been or are thinking about leaving the site and joining competing services. These new tools are designed to help keep creators from departing to competing platforms"
Huh? No they are not. This has been in development for a long time, way before the demonetization "scandal" happened.
And somehow, I don't think YouTube is too worried about creators departing to competing platforms. They did way worse before, and no one left.
What happens again and again is the drama, bunch of people complaining about it, threatening to leave, usually not fully understanding what they are talking about, then they all realize that YouTube is the only service with such a huge audience, and then they just give up.
Which I know is bad in itself, but the top statement sounds a bit like guesswork. Did you just try to bungle together two separate things there?
YouTube Community is here because quite frankly, the current commenting system is outdated, a mess and cumbersome. Not because Google+, not because YouTube commenters are the worst, but because the system itself is horrible. You can't find anything in it, browsing through it can sometimes be impossible, the webapp is often not synced with the mobile app, you can't do much of anything other than scroll and reply to people, it's probably among the most primitive commenting systems out there. Commenters can't even see a history of their own comments. There's zero customization.
But this has been an issue and a constant complain for quite a while now, so I guess YouTube is finally doing something about it... no clue if it'll be worth anything though.
what more could we ask for? (Score:2)