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Microsoft Partners With Bank of America On Blockchain Trade Finance (securityweek.com) 43

wiredmikey quotes a report from SecurityWeek: Microsoft and Bank of America Merrill Lynch said they are working together to make financial transactions more efficient with blockchain technology -- the foundation of bitcoin digital currency. Blockchains are considered tamper-proof registers in which entries are time-stamped and linked to previous "blocks" in a data chain. As expected, the technology that drives the shadowy bitcoin cryptocurrency is drawing interest from the established banking industry, which sees a potential to revolutionize the sector. The companies said they will build and test frameworks for blockchain-powered exchanges between businesses and their customers and banks. Microsoft plans to use its Azure cloud service platform to enable blockchain transactions between a major corporate treasury and a financial institution. "Blockchains serve as public ledgers considered easy to audit and verify. They are also automated, speeding up transactions and limiting potential for error or revision," the report adds. The companies said that by using blockchain technology, they can digitalize and automate trade finance processes, which are traditionally highly manual, time-consuming and costly.
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  • by CaptSlaq ( 1491233 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2016 @03:59PM (#52972127)
    Because speed and automation didn't have any part in the previous fiscal downturn.
    • by H3lldr0p ( 40304 )

      But with this we'd be able to tell pretty quickly who started the market falling. All of the trades would be public readable. In theory.

      The question is when the law will catch up and allow legal liability to be assessed and assigned based on the record?

      • So, the only financial transactions that any business engages in are securities trades? I guess I need to dig deeper to understand exactly how stock trades get involved in my employer making bi-weekly direct deposits into our (mine and my coworker's) accounts. I'll also ask my brother-in-law what stocks he is using to make payments to the corporation he is a franchisee of and to pay his food suppliers and such.

        Or maybe CaptSlaq and H3lldr0p should find some other deceased equines to pummel.

        • So, the only financial transactions that any business engages in are securities trades? I guess I need to dig deeper to understand exactly how stock trades get involved in my employer making bi-weekly direct deposits into our (mine and my coworker's) accounts. I'll also ask my brother-in-law what stocks he is using to make payments to the corporation he is a franchisee of and to pay his food suppliers and such.

          Or maybe CaptSlaq and H3lldr0p should find some other deceased equines to pummel.

          When you have an error as massive as the last one caused in part by automation, it might possibly be understandable that such announcements of further automation are suspect until evidence of actual improvement has happened. How much evidence it takes to regain trust in a system is up for debate.

      • Of course, it's also editable.

    • It is actually not fast compared to most other things you would think of as "fast". It takes roughly 10 minutes to find each new block, and a transaction is usually not considered "confirmed" until 6 blocks in the chain have been found and agreed on. So it takes about an hour to confirm a transaction currently in Bitcoin, compared to a few seconds with a credit card.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        Bitcoin transactions are 'instant' but take 10 minutes to confirm, and 1 hour to be final. Spendable usually with a single confirmation.

        Credit card transaction are 'instant' but take 3 BUSINESS DAYS to confirm, and 30-180 days to be final.

    • This post isn't really a reply to CaptSlaq. Sorry to reply to you randomly, but I wanted to out this above the idiot Koran spammer.

      A common misconception is that this use of a blockchain is a new crypto-currency. Readers should note this is a DIFFERENT use of a blockchain, it is not a new currency, nor is it Bitcoin. It's simply a ledger.

    • Flash crash, baby! And who else to start one? [fortune.com]

  • We seem to be approaching a time when it would at least be possible to have an app on your phone that would allow you to transfer money (in the form of bitcoins or other blockchain-based currency) directly to your phone. There it would serve as a wallet, allowing you to make direct purchases. I wonder if such a plan is being considered?

    • Already exists [bitt.com].
    • by I4ko ( 695382 )
      And then someone will DDoS the cellular network or EMP it, or just throw in a bunch of white noise makers on the frequencies of the cell towers and you are toast.
      • But then Jack Bauer will show up to stop them. We are talking about TV right?
      • How is that any different than our current banking system. Our current system is all digital and would still be subject to EMP or DDos... At least with a truly digital currency all you have to do is print a digital key of your account and you've got a hard backup to tuck away in your safe or wherever. It would be nearly impossible to destroy the ledger since it would exist everywhere in the world and if need be beyond (think satelites).
    • And here's another working implementation, which doesn't involve waiting several minutes for blockchain resolution. This is run by the same Square that provides those little point-of-sale readers that attach to an iPad at the local coffee bar.
      https://cash.me/ [cash.me]

  • It was going to be called e-coin. Should be released early May.
  • Banks: Thanks *yoink*

  • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2016 @04:23PM (#52972265) Journal

    Microsoft: I'm in ur bank, stealin' ur moneyz!!

    Trusting Microsoft with banking is like hiring John Wayne Gacy as your babysitter.

  • Evil partners with Super Evil....

    The anti-christ has been born.

  • by jasonma84 ( 1564611 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2016 @04:39PM (#52972367)
    Microsoft trying to move in on another open source technology and trying to package, bundle and sell it off as their own... How refreshing. I am personally sick of Microsoft and Bank of America and think digital currency is better off without either of them. I know JP Morgan at one point was trying to move in on this territory as well but they couldn't figure out how to build a new digital currency without basically re-creating bit coin. What this really boils down to is control and inevitably will become mainstream when the government figures out how to regulate it and big banks figure out how to control it in order to issue new debt. Personally I would like to see more private exchanges from small startups and perhaps peer to peer loans leveraging bit coin. Not quite sure how to enforce people pay bit-coin loans back being anonymous, but I'm sure somebody will figure it out. Regardless, anything is better than the corrupt system we have in place so long as large corporations don't muck it up.
    • by Rob Y. ( 110975 )

      I don't suppose it would be much of a problem - as long as they don't change it a little, patent it, and establish a new 'standard' where noone else can play. Would Bitcoin be prior art enough to prevent that?

  • The auditors will have none of it. Easy to audit means less billable hours for them. They will insist that these blockchains need to be 'editable' under rules and governance to be audited by them. Anything in the financial services industry that is 'easy' lasts about 6 months until some joker comes up with an excel sheet that needs to be filled in for audit and compliance.

    • "Easy to audit" is bullshit. It's hard to hide; it's not easy to audit. The "public ledger" is a history of when each object has had its blockchain extended. The problem is an account consists of assets of value, such as dollars; those assets are semi-fungible, in the sense that the account has value and any set of assets producing that value is representative. Accounts typically have one or several kinds of fungible assets--a single currency or separate lots of fungible assets (e.g. your commodities a

  • I'm still working on who is who.

  • by PPH ( 736903 ) on Tuesday September 27, 2016 @05:15PM (#52972595)

    ... why Microsoft is building FPGAs into their Azure cloud servers [theregister.co.uk]. Get the jump on blockchain mining.

  • And, after this, I sure as hell won't be opening one any time soon.
  • Of course Micro$oft will partner with BoA - ESPECIALLY since the whole concept of 'block chain' security has already been broken. https://news.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org] The ONLY secure method of financial transfer is CASH - paper dollars (an imaginary government promissory system) from your hand to the seller's hand.
  • One of the main tenants of the blockchain design is that it never have any one organization/person in control of more than 50% of the servers maintaining the financial transaction record. Microsoft will in this case have 100% of the servers, and thus could enable someone to walk off with the whole repository in what would be the biggest cyber-heist in all of recorded history. Of course we all trust Microsoft to never get hacked or do anything wicked in its own self interest.

    Sorry, I'll keep with bitcoin

  • I am really looking forward to seeing this cutting-edge technology when they complete it in 2025.

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