Anti-Defamation League Declares Pepe the Frog a Hate Symbol (time.com) 398
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TIME: The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has declared a popular internet meme depicting a cartoon frog to be a hate symbol. Pepe the Frog's beginnings were unoffensive: he is the creation of comic book creator Matt Furie, who featured the frog as a character in the series Boy's Club beginning in 2005. The character subsequently became a beloved meme, often called the "sad frog meme" and shared with a speech bubble reading "Feels good man" or "Feels bad man." But recently, as the Daily Beast reported in May, the character has been co-opted by a faction of Internet denizens who decided to reclaim it from the mainstream, and began sharing it in anti-Semitic contexts. "Images of the frog, variously portrayed with a Hitler-like mustache, wearing a yarmulke or a Klan hood, have proliferated in recent weeks in hateful messages aimed at Jewish and other users on Twitter," the ADL wrote in a statement. "Once again, racists and haters have taken a popular Internet meme and twisted it for their own purposes of spreading bigotry and harassing users," wrote ADL CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt.
Who said what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Who the fuck is the ADL? Why the fuck do I give a shit?
-- Internet
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Calling the Pepe frog a hate symbol just makes it one. The reality is that it's just a stupid drawing.
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So I guess whoever slapped swastikas on that frog can now say "mission accomplished"?
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I'd rather say that putting a Hitler moustache on it made it a hate symbol-
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Mustaches like that were very popular in the inter-war years. Only fucking idiots associate them particularly with Hitler.
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...if seen in a time piece of that era. And yes, mixing up Charlie Chaplin's "Tramp" with Hitler just because of the moustache would indeed be funny.
But that friggin frog is contemporary.. well.. "artwork".
And as you mentioned, those moustaches were very popular in the inter-war years, but you might have noticed that they aren't today. So any current usage is a direct referrence to either
a) general facial hair style in the 30s
b) Charlie Chaplin
c) Hitler
If seen in conjunction with antisemitic slogans, all am
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Who the fuck is the ADL? Why the fuck do I give a shit?
-- Internet
And this is the correct response.
Every time that you give these people the wind of your fart, it validates them and their method. Ignore and move on.
Seriously though, I find the Anti-ADL to be a bigger bunch of butthurt whiners, who also need to be ignored. Same kind of attention whores, slightly different whine.
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And this is the correct response.
(((echo)))
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I think when your hair trigger sensitive response to things is to go straight to blaming things on SJW's and that social justice has become an entirely bad thing to you, you've lost sight of what matters. I have a strong dislike for the nonsense that SJW's do as well but you have to remember, we do need people who are aware of social destructiveness and people need to frequently push back on hate.
Internet hate has been growing for a long time now and if you reflect on some of the things that you and your fr
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social justice has become an entirely bad thing
Any 'Justice' that denies the legal system it's due process is an absolute aberrant evil that must be destroyed at every opportunity. We send soldiers to other countries to kill powerful SJWs that hold the reigns of a regime that squashes dissenting opinions. You should read "Mein Kampf". It's the SJW to Dictator roadmap.
and people need to frequently push back on hate.
Damn right we do. Which is all SJW's spew. If they don't get their way they throw giant child tantrums.
Internet hate has been growing for a long time now
That's a mixed bag there. There's anger growing at the people that have appointed them
Re:Who said what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Keep in mind that this is exactly what the left keep pushing with their "hate crime" laws, and wanting to implement kangaroo courts for them. We have them in Canada, they're abused. Up until Ezra Levant and Mark Styen won they had a 100% conviction rate. The head of the CHRC was also found to have been deliberately planting evidence against his political enemies then running them against the system to ruin them.
You guys in the US have gotten your first taste of it, it's called a Title IX tribunal.
Re:Who said what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Shut the fuck up with the "SJW" tag.
I swear, you assholes who overuse SJW calling SJW-this and SJW-that have turned a once delightfully trollish term that describes people wandering into a situation they don't understand and shitting over the discussion with shrill screeching and white-knighting, and now "SJW!!!" is thrown at anyone who has even a shred of conscience about how to treat each other with respect. Don't like the KKK? You're a fucking SJW. Think that a full-time job ought to pay a living wage? Shut up, you fucking SJW.
SJW is the new "Nazi." Now, when someone starts yammering on about SJW's, you can immediately dismiss them as blithering idiots. That's how badly the term has been abused, and that's how meaningless it has become.
Re:Who said what? (Score:5, Insightful)
As opposed to getting in line and do what the outraged, loudmouthed minority says?
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You act like people shouldn't be able to point out what they see as immoral behavior unless it's mandated by the your government,
That's fine. Everyone can point out what they think is wrong all day, then draft laws and vote on it, with measures for enforcement.
SJWs rarely work that way, opting to mete out their own version of justice by harassing and finding ways to ruin the victims lives by getting them fired, evicted, etc.
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Wow, Calling for Law and order is now Right Wing? ... Wow.
And yea, I had to look up the Acronym.
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Law and Order is fine and dandy until the tyrants use it to kill off any dissent.
Lets try Liberty and Justice instead. Similar but not quite the same.
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*Whooosh*
Re:Who said what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Internet hate has been growing for a long time now.
At basically the same rate non-techies have started adopting the internet in their every day lives I suspect.
The internet was a nice place before all the normals started using it.
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Eternal September Brother. Remember that day as it continues to live on in infamy.
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The problem is that we have a group of people (SJWs) who've declared themselves the only ones who care about social justice and pushing back against hate, while doing nothing more than spewing their own brand of hatred and injustice. Meanwhile, we've got reasonable adults who see through the sham and, well...
Skipping the rest of my rant and getting right to my point: "people who are aware of social destructiveness and [...] frequently push back
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the more I realize that maybe I am a herdsman living amongst sheep.
Oh look, someone on Slashdot who thinks he's smarter than everybody else. Weird.
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ADL is both pro- and anti- "social justice," or at least the modern day's concept of it.
On one hand, most people concerned about the social justice side of Israeli/Palestinian relations tend to think that the Palestinians have gotten a pretty raw deal from the whole thing, what with them getting their land "bought out" to create Israel, current West Bank issues, etc. However, ADL is also a radically pro-Israel and pro-Zionist organization, enough that they have repeatedly tried to conflate criticism of Isra
Re:Who said what? (Score:5, Informative)
You want to know what's really funny? If you read the actual ADL post on it, it actually says Pepe isn't a racist meme. It says that some people use it for such, but that doesn't make it so. Anymore then using something else in a meme context. Fuck the media is really trying to push this bullshit hard. So are the retards like the AC that /. promoted this worthless bunch of articles on in the first place. Can't get much more pathetic, and when you hear people talking about this? They're laughing at you, even the normies.
From the ADL itself: [adl.org]
However, because so many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.
Re:Who said what? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm no ADL fan, but this is from their website:
"However, because so many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes."
Kinda makes you look stupid going off on that rant, to be honest.
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Kinda makes you look stupid going off on that rant, to be honest.
This story makes Slashdot look stupid, if we're being honest. The summary is bullshit. How did it make the front page? Either a bunch of dipshit slashdotters voted it up from the firehose, or a dipshit "editor" promoted it. Either way, it's stupid bullshit that helps make Slashdot grate.
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(Fuck you, Slashdot, and also a fuck you to the sorry pieces of shit who own it right now).
The stories are user-submitted. You complete fucking mong.
Pepe is a scam (Score:2)
The whole thing is fake. It's a fake meme. It has nothing to do with the alt-right. Clinton's campaign site was pwnd and they bought off on it.
Re:Pepe is a scam (Score:4, Informative)
No, it's a real meme: Feels good man [knowyourmeme.com]. (Feels bad man is an obvious spin-off.)
The Nazi connection? That's a 100% bullshit joke that Clinton swallowed hook, line, and sinker. She got trolled by 4chan, and HARD, to fall for that. Except that as far as anyone can tell, 4chan never did any "Nazi frog" meme. No one can really figure out where the hell she got that from. It just doesn't exist.
There is no Pepe/Nazi connection. There never has been, except in Hillary's weird deluded "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" pnemonia-addled mind.
Re:Pepe is a scam (Score:4, Informative)
The Daily Beast - which "Broke" the pepe story (sourced by a 15 year old joker on twitter, with no political leanings) is owned by IAC publishing.
Who is on the board of directors of IAC publishing? Chelsea Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAC_(company)
If modern racism is cartoon frogs then maybe time to move on guys.
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OT: another Clinton troll - "IS IS" (Score:2, Offtopic)
Obviously ISIS hasn't been around that long, but the inside joke is that he didn't mean ISIS, he was referring to a certain guy who asked "what the meaning of IS IS".
lol
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Yeah, in the debate last night, everyone thinks Trump made a mistake when he said Hillary has been "fighting ISIS her entire adult life".
Trump says plenty of stupid things. The left is hurting itself when it jumps on Trump for slight mishaps like this. If he would have said "terrorists" or even "islamic terrorists"
then he would be pretty much correct and everyone knows it. When people think they are smarter than everyone else and jump on Trump for a slight mishap like this the
only thing it does is drive his supporters to support him harder and ignore all the real problems with the things he says.
Unlike most candidates, pounding on his min
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No, the "bowl of skittles" thing originates from a Nazi children's book [mtholyoke.edu] about Jews.
A few years back there was a Ben Grelle posted the skittles version as part of a blog post in the wake of the Elliot Rodger misogynist murder spree. He claims it was taken out of context [thefrogman.me], it's up to you if you believe him but given that it was a response to what Rodger did his explanation seems reasonable.
How did you get from "10% of them are poison" to "all men are rapists"? At most you could say he was suggesting that 10% o
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Kermit Be Damned!!! (Score:2)
ribbit
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Reeeeeee! [youtube.com]
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I was expecting this... [youtu.be]
i hate it (Score:3)
Time got trolled (Score:5, Insightful)
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The only logical explanation is that Time got trolled. I certainly don't recall reading anything about Hitler or Third Reich using frog symbols
You haven't been reading through trending hashtags on twitter then. This shit's real, regardless of who is reporting on it.
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The only logical explanation is that Time got trolled. I certainly don't recall reading anything about Hitler or Third Reich using frog symbols.
Nazi frog symbols?
What about the Vichy French? :)
Not really a hate symbol (Score:2)
It's not a hate symbol per se, but some racist fuckholes use it as one. There's a difference.
If I used, I dunno, the "recycle" symbol as a hate symbol, would that make it a hate symbol? No, it would just be some arsehole (me) using it that way.
But, I suppose with enough usage it would start to be recognized as such and then, yeah, it could probably be considered a hate symbol.
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Operation Google on Reddit (Score:2)
I already saw Operation Google on internet neckbeard self-stim party Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Google... [reddit.com]
Welp, now we know for sure. (Score:2, Informative)
Now we know the level of dumb the new Slashdot management is.
Or just another chink in the chain of media bullshit controlled by garbage in control.
Dear politicans. (Score:2)
Get off the internet and go actually work.
Star of David used by Neo Nazis... (Score:5, Insightful)
...and then we can declare that a hate symbol too?
What about the rainbow flag? If sharia enforcing islamists start using rainbow colors, can we declare that a hate symbol?
What about the word "HATE"? Can we declare that a hate symbol, and ban it?
WTF, guys, seriously?
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You can declare anything you want a hate symbol. The question is whether you have the credibility for others to follow your lead.
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But doesn't that beg the question? Should anyone who proclaims certain words, shapes, or forms as "hate symbols" have any credibility at all?
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Well, actually technically speaking you're the one begging the question [wikipedia.org]: you haven't established that either you or I enjoy some kind of privileged position in which we get to condemn other people for condemning language they don't like.
So by all means condemn them for calling things "hate speech", it's your right; but it's also their right.
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I was responding to your claim that the question was about "credibility", which is a premise I think requires proof - perhaps you didn't intend it, but your implication was that the ADL had credibility, and therefore was allowed the privileged position from which to condemn other people for language they don't like.
If your position is that the ADL has no more right than anyone else to declare words, shapes, or forms "hate symbols", then we agree. If your position is that they have the credibility to make s
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My position is that anyone can have any opinion they want, and that the significance of that opinion to others depends on whatever level of trust the claimer can command. This puts some people in a de facto privileged position. This can be rational (e.g. privileging an oncologist's opinions on cancer over a layman's) and in other cases not (privileging a fellow mom's opinions about vaccines over an immunologist or toxicologist).
So my point is that you CAN make any of the claims you suggested, but your aut
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You make a compelling argument for religion - anyone who has spent time studying God more trusted than what "stands to reason" in your own judgement :)
Now, if it was simply saying "hey, some hate groups use pepe the frog, and some hate groups use swastikas!", that's one thing. But it strains even the most basic credulity to assign such a thing as "hate" to a mere symbol, stretching the claim further to "any use of pepe the frog or swastikas means you're a hate group!", which, whether ADL intends it or not,
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Anyone who has spent time studying God is a better authority on theology. He's just another guy when it comes to physics.
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The ADL points out that Pepe is not a hate symbol, it is merely used in some neo-Nazi / white supremacist memes.
Pays to check the primary source [adl.org] before posting reactionary nonsense.
and the letter "S" (Score:2)
But Kermit is still OK (Score:3)
so long as he doesn't fat-shame Ms. Piggy.
This Just In: Old Woman Yells at Frog (Score:2)
Complete with pic [battleswarmblog.com].
I don't know the secret handshake. (Score:2, Insightful)
Obviously all this is related to some inside joke in some obscure neighborhood on the internest. Since I'm not a denizen of this sub-division of the netisphere, I'm left out. But I do have something to contribute:
Certain portions of our world community claim special status based upon historical events. Anyone who says anything they don't like is subject to being labeled 'anti-Semitic' and being blackballed by certain elements of the Power Structure.
I look forward to the day when we can all see this labeling
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Certain portions of our world community claim special status based upon historical events.
You know you know you if you ignore them they cease to exist?
There are millions of special interest groups that all have their own take on the world, and they survive on attention. GroupXYZ can declare anything they like as evil but if we all ignore them they will eventually go away.
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This is a common tactic in the on-going culture wars: adopt a popular meme and corrupt it to your own agenda, relying on its popularity to make it seem like your cause has more support than it really does.
I agree with you about ridiculous claims of anti-Semitism though. There was a call on programme on the BBC a few months back where several people called to say that things like criticising Israel's annexing of Palestinian land or methods of self-defence was anti-Semitic. Criticism is not hate speech.
Dear ADL, (Score:2)
We understand your concern with the latest incarnation of hate speech on the Internet. Unfortunately, at this time we are busy trying to figure out how not to get so many black people shot by police. So you will have to excuse us if we don't share your same level of urgency over a cartoon frog.
Sincerely, the American public.
Lemme get this straight (Score:5, Insightful)
Some internet trolls take a meme and dress it up to be anti-semitic. For some odd reason this (out of the thousand others that work just the same way) gets the attention of the ADL and they declare the meme, not the dress-up, but the meme, to be anti-semitic.
Seriously, if I was the troll, I'd feel on top of the world. This must be the apex of trolldom. Ultimate validation.
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Seriously, if I was the troll, I'd feel on top of the world. This must be the apex of trolldom. Ultimate validation.
Penultimate. When they take the ADL logo and put a 'stache on it and start trolling Facebook with it, then troll nirvana will have been achieved.
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The logical counter-troll would be to take nazi-pepe and ridicule him.
Laughter is a powerful weapon against repressive organizations and movements. The very last thing they can deal with is not being taken serious, mostly because they're usually so full of insecurities and dependence on outside validation that ridiculing them is a powerful blow to their ego.
I do not care a shit about this... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Has slashdot become the outlet of political correctness gone wrong and pussies of the world united?
No, it's just the outlet of wrong, since the headline is inflammatory bullshit. The ADL did not declare Pepe to be a hatemonger. They mentioned that some people are making Nazi Pepes, and that some of these are symbols of hate. (Obviously you can make Nazi characters without promoting Nazism, by using them as targets of humor or what have you.)
Isn't pussies of the world united a lesbian film? Talk about V2V
Who are these people? (Score:2)
How do these groups justify their existence over 40 years after the junk science of "race" was completely debunked? There is clearly a lot of money to be made by perpetuating junk science and peddling that garbage to the uneducated masses.
Re:Who are these people? (Score:4, Insightful)
How do these groups justify their existence over 40 years after the junk science of "race" was completely debunked?
It's kind of the other way around. Evolution tells us that different environments create selection pressure for/against different traits, which causes species to differentiate into distinct haplogroups or entirely different species. Most everyone agrees that modern humans left Africa and spread throughout the world between 50,000 - 100,000 years ago. Now if I were to take any other animal, say a canid, and stick a bunch of them in northern europe and a bunch of them in Africa and then ask if you if it's possible that after 100,000 years we'd get very different animals descended from the common ancestors, you'd agree. And if I suggested those differences might be more than mere coloration, but extended to speed, strength, size, and even temperament and intelligence you would probably agree. But if that animal is man instead of a dog you'd call me an evil racist to suggest that perhaps the cold climates of northern europe selected against those humans who weren't intelligent enough to make long-term plans while the year-round abundance of food in Africa selected against the weak and slow but not against the unintelligent.
We're basically having the Scopes monkey trial all in reverse, where the "progressives" take as dogma the claim that mankind is special and stopped evolving the instant they stepped out of Africa.
The way the political left gets their power is by first declaring that different groups are equivalent (without evidence or proof), enforcing this false equivalence as a moral issue (you're not just wrong but evil and morally repugnant if you don't agree), then pointing out the differences in outcome between these groups (actually caused by their biological differences, not deliberate actions), but since you've already accepted the false equivalence, the only explanation must be that the more successful group is oppressing the less successful group. This justifies giving political power to the left in order to correct this injustice. If you recognized the fundamental inequality of ability, there would be nothing to do and the left would have no power. It would just be the way it is.
For instance, in the United States the average IQ for blacks is 85, 92 for Latinos, 100 for whites, 108 for asians, and 115 for Ashkenazi Jews. This correlates very well to income levels for each group. In the US the median incomes for Jews is the highest, followed by Asians, then whites, then Latinos and then blacks. When confronted with this fact, politically motivated leftists will "debunk" the research by attacking the researchers, attacking the tests, and generally by making a bunch of hysterical and fallacious arguments. They then cite each other as proof the research has been "debunked" when in fact it hasn't, and any points they may have had (like for instance the idea that the IQ tests themselves are biased towards one group or another) have been addressed and either explained or corrected. But the results still stand.
It would be nice if the left would acknowledge this and stop calling society (and whites particularly) evil because, say, the proportion of engineers working at FaceBook who are black doesn't match the proportion of blacks in society. That's basically impossible because when you look at the distribution of intelligence by race [wikimedia.org] a much smaller proportion of blacks have the, say, 120+ IQ required to get through engineering school than whites or asians. No societal injustice is taking place, it's just that bitch Mother Nature.
So if you want to know how these groups justify their existence, it's because the evil racists are factually correct and the leftists deny basic evolutionary biology because without their false premise of innate equality their ideology falls apart, and no one will give them power anymore.
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Science tells us that "species" as a term is highly overrated and grossly misunderstood. But by no definition are different kinds of humans anywhere near to being different species. You might describe them as different varieties, at most.
This is the type of meaningless, muddying-the-waters handwave I was talking about. It doesn't matter what you call the different animal group: species, haplogroup, ethnicity, race, "bunch of people who vaguely stayed in this geographic area for this length of time." At the end of the day you have a group of animals to which a different selection pressure was applied over tens of thousands of years, which results in different traits.
Unless of course, man is some kind of magical animal where populations can b
Micky Mouse? (Score:3)
So if Micky Mouse starts getting portrayed with a hitler mustache, wearing a yarmulke or a Klan hood can we get him declared a hate symbol as well? Because I'd love to see Disney screwed like that.
FIRST, they came for Pepe the frog (Score:4, Insightful)
First, they came for Pepe the frog.
I didn't speak up, because I was not a Trump supporter...
Then, they infiltrated ICANN and began matching expressions to block registration of new 'hateful' domain names.
Then, the international copyright corpus paid lucrative fees to have trademarks added to the 'hate' blocking database.
Then, root and 1LD servers began returning NXDOMAIN responses to 'non-compliant' names, regardless of prior existence or fees paid.
Then, the servers began returning NXDOMAIN responses even if the 'non-compliant' match was in the subdomain portion.
Then, the servers began silently completing 'non-compliant' name responses to build a database of 'non-compliant' ip addresses.
Then, the tier 1 companies and consortium ISPs began black-holing non-compliant ip addresses.
Then, the tier 1s developed the 'ICMP trace-ping' to centrally log attempts to reach non-compliant ip addresses.
Then, the international non-compliance organization (managed by ICANN) began issuing automated 'takedown' requests for the source ip addresses.
Then, consortium ISPs streamlined the takedown process and modified their TOS to support the suspension of non-compliant service.
Then, the FBI and NSA joined TOR to issue a steady stream of 'non-compliant' traffic to ensure that all onion nodes remain suspended.
Then, countries such as China are maintaining their own clone of the non-compliance framework for their own (eg, Falun Gong) reasons.
Then, 'peace treaties' between countries are negotiated with conditions that member countries mutually share and implement their respective 'non-compliance' framework.
Here, my dystopian Internet vision ends.
Pepe the frog survives, though he is reading a book by candle light.
Don't get me started on non-compliant books.
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Of course, back in the day with the Clintons, it was Monica and other interns that were sucking the big D because Hillary would not. :)
Not Milk?
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Especially when you have an anti-hate group declare it to be a "hate symbol" which basically cedes the ground and lets the anti-semites win.
If it's even a thing, which I doubt it is.
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Especially when you have an anti-hate group declare it to be a "hate symbol" which basically cedes the ground and lets the anti-semites win.
If it's even a thing, which I doubt it is.
Well Hitler was a vegetarian. So therefore vegetarianism is anti-semitic, right?
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No, Spongebob is saved by a variant of the Cute cat theory of digital activism [wikipedia.org].
Said theory says that you cannot outlaw a medium that is used by dissenting parties once it has been adopted by the masses to look at cute cats, because then the outcry would be too big and people would notice that you're the bully. In this case, people have already learned that Spongebob is a cute cartoon and labeling him a Nazi symbol would show the public that you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking about.
But
Re:We live in that environment now. (Score:5, Funny)
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The PC Master Race, or the Chosen Mac Users.
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All they care about is power.
Re:We live in that environment now. (Score:5, Funny)
Watt about the grammer Nazi's?
Grammar Nazis.
There ok.
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SJWs are a very specific group of indoctrinated individuals, rather than "every clinton supporter" (that are in majority just people that don't want to vote for trump, as most trump supporters are just people that don't want to vote for hillary).
But yes, they're racist as hell, and not due "being racist against white people", but by basically boiling everyone down by race and gender.
Everything you did personally, your opinions, it's all irrelevant to an extreme to those people, and they will either excessiv
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SJWs are a very specific group of indoctrinated individuals, rather than "every clinton supporter" (that are in majority just people that don't want to vote for trump, as most trump supporters are just people that don't want to vote for hillary).
True, this election most Americans are trying to find a way to vote against what they perceive as bigger evil. And let's face it, between the two real candidates there's no lesser evil.
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It's an ICBM being shot against US, and the only choices being letting it hit washington or forcing it to fall into NY instead.
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I can see both doing it, but for completely different reasons.
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While there may not be a bigger evil, only one of the evils will have the entire bureaucracy and a bit under 50% of the legislative wing actively assisting them because they like the evil.
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In a first-past-the-post system, if there's a big gap towards the 3rd candidate, voting for him instead of a lesser evil is a wasted vote. All you do is send a message that'll be ignored by most, it's for all practical purposes an "abstain" vote.
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There isn't even two.
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Put it on the label pile back there, I ignore it later.
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Everyone's a little bit lacist.
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Everyone's a little bit lacist.
We are born that way. By the time my daughter was 20 months old she would speak English to white or black people and Mandarin to Asian people. I never taught her that. She figured it out on her own.
Re: Racist? (Score:2, Interesting)
The AC is right. That you can intentionally select for traits is irrelevant. Race is a social construct. If you don't believe me, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics [wikipedia.org]
We're all Homo sapiens sapiens. A tiny handful of genes that affect outward appearance are irrelevant. The fact people cling to such outdated garbage is depressing.
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Dumbassery like yours is a social construct.
A tiny handful of genes separate us from chimps. Slight changes have huge effects, and those effects are not just related to appearance. If people like you had your fucking way people wouldn't be allowed to ask about race and people would die due to genetic conditions that affect different races more/less.
Fuck your feelings, deal with facts.
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Yes! Let's start adding the Hitler mustache to Charlie Chaplin pictures. Bwa ha ha ha!
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Since Saudi is controlled by the British
LOL
And the Vatican owns America, yeah?
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