T-Mobile Is Killing the Remaining Galaxy Note7 Units Today (gsmarena.com) 109
Samsung may only be in the planning stages for its Note7-disabling update in South Korea, but over in the U.S. things are in full swing. The company announced earlier this month that such an update would be sent out to all remaining Note7 units in the US starting on December 19. And now it's time for the first of the big four carriers to push the software to devices it's sold. From a report: That carrier is T-Mobile, which is starting the rollout today. The update will prevent the handset for charging, and will display a notification with information about Samsung's Galaxy Note7 recall and the steps needed to return the device. The build number for the update is N930TUVU2APL2.
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Do you smell something burning?
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Wrong! I programmed my Note7 to report as a Note6 on networks...
Well there's a dead giveaway since there was no such thing as a Note 6... Doah!
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I'm a WOMAN you inconsiderate clod!
No. You're an Anonymous Coward.
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There is nothing wrong with that. Use Dingtone and nothing changes.
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Obligatory The Critic quote (Score:3)
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"... and nothing of Note was lost."
There. :-)
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Do I detect a flash mob of bitter Apple groupies?
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Re:Amazing (Score:5, Funny)
I'm surprised that it's even legal (Score:2)
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No but you obviously are brain dead. The product is in world wide recall. The goods are considered a danger to the public. You will be liable should a fire start from one...see you have been given every opportunity to return it. continuing to use one is GROSS NEGLIGENCE on your part.
Enjoy being sued by anyone who happens to be harmed by your head in the sand use of this product. /really are people this stupid? //i mean i know the lower end of the curve must be...but surely they have all drowned by looki
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No, there is no forced recall.
However, should this thing catch fire and burn your house down, good luck collecting on the home owner's insurance policy once the fire investigator finds that the ignition source was an incredibly loudly recalled phone that also should have received firmware forced through the networks to disable it.
You'd have better luck collecting if your kid was playing with matches next to the curtains that somehow got soaked in gasoline.
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Thats assuming you let it update. If you are smart enough to keep the thing, I will assume you are smart enough to understand how to keep it functional.
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No but you obviously are brain dead. The product is in world wide recall. The goods are considered a danger to the public. You will be liable should a fire start from one...see you have been given every opportunity to return it. continuing to use one is GROSS NEGLIGENCE on your part.
That's a tall assumption. The owner might be using it only in a controlled environment, or might have disconnected the battery and modded the phone to use a safe external one (wouldn't be the first time - I've seen external battery mods for phones where the owner needs to be able to change batteries, but the internal battery isn't replaceable).
One thing is to issue a recall, but another is to disable the product. My previous car, I refused to take in for a recall which would weld the trunk window struts t
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Yes. However, he does have a point. He wants to keep the product he bought even if it can now be a small bomb. So how do we balance his rights with those who could be killed when it explodes?
Re: I'm surprised that it's even legal (Score:1)
The product has undergone a mandatory full recall due to faulty exploding batteries. This isn't sabotaging a 'functional' device in the legal sense. These phones are already banned from many places as they're a safety hazard.
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The product has undergone a mandatory full recall due to faulty exploding batteries. This isn't sabotaging a 'functional' device in the legal sense. These phones are already banned from many places as they're a safety hazard.
It's not a mandatory recall. It's a voluntary recall.
And yes, it is banned from some places, and can be used in others. You're allowed to own quite a few dangerous items you can't bring on a plane, and use them in your own home, at your own risk. Even recalled items. I have both lawn darts and buckyballs, and they're my property, on my property, and I'm responsible.
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What are your damages? To sue, you have to show you've been damaged. You can return the phone and get your money back in full. No damages, no lawsuit.
If you bought the phone subsidized with a contract, that's a bad deal - you are still stuck with the contract for services. If there's no other phone you want, you have to pay to break the contract, and end up with a net loss.
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Where did T-Mobile get the firmware from? Spoiler alert: they didn't write it. They got it from Samsung.
Also, it's not very surprising that a third party is willing to refund anything - it happens all the time in retail returns.
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you're more likely to be burned or die by a burning building caused by cooking or smoking than any cell phone brand.
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Driving your car for one day adds to your risk of death, much moreso than a samsung phone
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Samsung phones are a negligible risk, tens of millions of them out there and only a few hundred with problems. Driving car on the other hand is very risky by comparison, essentially doesn't matter if you have Samsung phone in it or not. Crossing railroad track with your car makes possession of Samsung phone irrelevant.
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Its its last update anyway. And in about a year, the apps will stop being able to be accepted by google play. Plus all the samsung items will fail.
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My phone is working fine, thank you.
Liar, liar. Pants on Fire.
No, really! Stop, drop, and roll!
t looks like you shouldn't have blocked that update.
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Stop, drop, and roll!
I can confirm that this doesn't always work. Sometimes it lights the pine needles on the ground on fire.
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How would one block this? (Score:2)
I'm curious about how you would block something like this, in the general case.
I'm not suggesting anyone use a phone that might explode instead of handing it in for a refund. But in the broad case, what are the defenses that you have in a case similar to this, where you might have great reasons to prevent such an update?
This sounds like it is being pushed out as a carrier update. On an iPhone, I can defer those as I can all updates. I suspect the same is true on an Android. Eventually, of course (or imm
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I'm curious about how you would block something like this
Set your phone on fire and burn your house down now before the update renders that highly desirable feature unusable?
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> something like this, in the general case
> in the broad case
> where you might have great reasons to prevent such an update
l2read
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l2read
Irony.
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How do you block it? Root the phone and remove all the samsung software. Then pull the sim chip. The honest truth is T-mobile doesnt want any on its network. So remove it from the network. Then if it explodes you are liable.
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You would basically need to make the phone unusable to prevent someone else from making the phone unusable. Fill the storage so there's nowhere to download the update. Turn it off and leave it off. Etc.
I have no idea if the carrier would invoke the next logical step, which would be to blacklist the IMEI of any known Note 7, causing the device to become a uselessly small wifi tablet. In that case, there's nothing you can do.
In a galaxy far, far away... (Score:2)
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Shockingly, they don't have the next 7 years of products sitting in a warehouse somewhere just waiting for a green light to ship.
Do you even know what you just asked for? Product development takes time, and short cuts are what leads to phones spontaneously combusting. Take a revenue hit now, build the god damn thing right, and release it when it's ready. People will still buy it, if it has the feature set they want, and doesn't feature design defects that cause your house to catch fire.
Bricking is stupid, here's a better idea (Score:1)
DO set the firmware to disallow charging beyond a known-safe level and/or slow down the charging rate to a slow, known-safe speed.
DO throw up the "this device has been recalled" alert every time the user wakes the machine up.
If you must, disable non-emergency calling and throttle the bluetooth and WiFi to painfully slow speeds to encourage people to stop using the device.
But don't set it to brick when the power runs out.
Why not?
If Aunt Jane or Uncle Bill lost his phone the day before the recall was announce
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Note that there's no known safe charging rate or battery capacity. The Note 7 is a fire risk at all times.
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Thats because of the tiny metal fragments in the battery gel.
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DO set the firmware to disallow charging beyond a known-safe level and/or slow down the charging rate to a slow, known-safe speed.
DO throw up the "this device has been recalled" alert every time the user wakes the machine up.
If you must, disable non-emergency calling and throttle the bluetooth and WiFi to painfully slow speeds to encourage people to stop using the device.
But don't set it to brick when the power runs out.
Why not?
If Aunt Jane or Uncle Bill lost his phone the day before the recall was announced, when he finds it he'll need to be able to plug it in and get his photos off of it.
I'd hope that it still works without charging the battery, so you can get data off if connected to the charger. But phones are always a bit special in that regard :(
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DO set the firmware to disallow charging beyond a known-safe level and/or slow down the charging rate to a slow, known-safe speed.
There was no such thing as was shown with the first and second update they rolled out.
If you must, disable non-emergency calling and throttle the bluetooth and WiFi to painfully slow speeds to encourage people to stop using the device.
Or just disable the IMEI. Phone calls are dime a dozend, and pretty much anyone is capable of calling emergencies in multiple ways at any given time.
Why not?
If Aunt Jane or Uncle Bill lost his phone the day before the recall was announced, when he finds it he'll need to be able to plug it in and get his photos off of it.
If your special relatives did this they can still charge and power it up and download the photos off the device as it will have run out of battery and as such not received the update. Not that I suspect that people who lose a recalled hazardous device in their house that is st
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Because when someone loses an $800+ device, they just throw up their hands and say "oh well, I'll look for it in three months, I can't be bothered right now." Are Aunt Jane and Uncle Bill going on an expedition into the Congo? Searching for the true source of the Nile?
Recall announced: early October.
Today: late December.
Your scenario is such an edge case that it's falling over the edge.
Good ending (Score:2)
It's going out in a blaze of glory.
It does not matter (Score:2)
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The closest lawsuit I can think of would be the sony one when they remove linux support from ps3. Sony lost and had to pay compensation.
The problem with this is that you are getting a compensation that is probably better then you would get on a one-on-one lawsuit, and it does not cost you any money. Or in other words who is going to sue?
As for safety that is being handled by not being allowed to
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Yes but giving them their money back resolves that problem.
The update will prevent the handset for charging.. (Score:2)
In other words, the proprietor always had this capability (and, no doubt, other things indicating true control over what this computer will do). So even if you think you'd like to retain the hardware and fix it, give or sell such services to others (including devices where this update may have already been applied), or even work with others to make fixes and publish the results so as to let others alter (what they believed was) their device, you are in f
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your plan is being undermined by those who truly own the device
Welcome to the world we were warned about.
The joke's on them (Score:3)
The disable command has been observed... (Score:2)