Tech is the Most Lucrative Career: LinkedIn Study (axios.com) 252
An anonymous reader shares an article: LinkedIn's 2017 U.S. State of Salary report is out, and tech is on top as the most lucrative career. Computer science majors are paid the most, with a median salary of $92,300. Software and IT services is the highest paid industry, with a median total compensation of $104,700.
At what Experience Level? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Not everyone in IT is a code monkey :)
[John]
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This is the average for all computer science majors. It is very consistent with just about every other salary survey on the subject, if not a little on the high side. Do not put too much stake in the slashdot bubble comments claiming that every code monkey is making mid-six-figures. These are coming from the same people who all claim to be over 6'4" tall with IQ180.
I have 17 years as a software engineer in Utah and don't make 6 figures.
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They are not paying top dollar for my brother's experience, but
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I have 17 years as a software engineer in Utah and don't make 6 figures.
"I have"? Sound like you need to do the needful and finally apply for AOS so you can get rid of your H1-B.
H1-B? Nah, I was born in the USA. Many ancestors arrived in the colonies in the 1600s. The most recent newcomers arrived in the 1850s. Admittedly Hawaiian Creole English (colloquially called Pidgin, ISO-638 code HWC) is my native tongue, so I may occasionally make a few grammar mistakes.
I've been a professional software engineer for 17 years. I have 17 years (of experience) as a software engineer.
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This is the average for all computer science majors. It is very consistent with just about every other salary survey on the subject, if not a little on the high side. Do not put too much stake in the slashdot bubble comments claiming that every code monkey is making mid-six-figures. These are coming from the same people who all claim to be over 6'4" tall with IQ180.
I'm a 22-year old Slavic Studies major who last year took a 5-day bootcamp in web development.
Now I make over $400K as a principal architect for Microsoft!
And you are trolling...
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90K experienced isn't that impressive considering all STEM
It is compared to almost every other career - even medicine.
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The question is where.
90K in Upstate New York is a upper middle class living.
90K in New York City is living in poverty.
While the tech companies that get the most media attention are in the big city areas, Paying 90k is more or less ripping off the employees.
However a few hundred miles away we have the tech companies, who are not under the press, or do things not as exciting. However are paying their workers 90K and are able to make a really good living.
I pay under 2k a month for my house, with over an acre
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Age discrimination is rampant in tech, it is one of the worst kept secrets around.
I'm 48-years-old and haven't run into it. Then again, I currently have a government IT job and I'm one of the youngest. Most of the greybeards that I work with are in their 60's and 70's.
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Keywords "government job". Civil Service jobs are HARD to get fired from.
I'm a contractor at my government IT job. Contractors can get fired quite easily. One contractor got fired for not disclosing on his background check that he had a murder charge [bit.ly]. Several contractors were surprised to learn that they were expected to work and found themselves back on the unemployment line.
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Keywords "government job". Civil Service jobs are HARD to get fired from.
I'm a contractor at my government IT job. Contractors can get fired quite easily. One contractor got fired for not disclosing on his background check that he had a murder charge [bit.ly]. Several contractors were surprised to learn that they were expected to work and found themselves back on the unemployment line.
If those contractors were expected to work, it means someone else expected them to work. How could they be, as you say, "back on the unemployment line" then if someone is expecting them to work?
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[...] the fact that your "miracle work" hasn't gotten you fired yet (at least, not that you've shared) [...]
The only time I ever got fired was when I worked in construction with my father and punched the boss's grandson in the mouth after trying to assault me with a rebar.
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The only time I ever got fired was when I worked in construction with my father and punched the boss's grandson in the mouth after trying to assault me with a rebar.
So, you punched the boss's grandson in the mouth after you tried to assault yourself with a rebar?
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This was your comment ONE DAY AGO: https://slashdot.org/comments [slashdot.org]....
Let's conveniently overlook the fact that I was one out of ~10,000 employees laid off at that time, I had 60 job interviews during the time I was out of work for eight months, I've been in my current government IT job for three years and my contract doesn't expire for another two years.
You're not exactly a hot ticket in the IT industry, creimer
I still get 20+ phone calls and emails from recruiter each day. My manager keeps hinting at a raise and larger Christmas bonus. I may not be the hottest ticket in Silicon Valley but I'm not a wallflower either.
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I still get 20+ phone calls and emails from recruiter each day.
That seems really inefficient, my advice is to change your number and not post it on "networking" websites. A person who claims to have survived 60 job interviews in less than a year should already know that being on that sort of recruiter list is a waste. When you're out of work, buy a burner phone and email your preferred recruiters with the number; when you get a new job, turn off the service.
That's a huge amount of time listening to messages and deleting them.
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That's a huge amount of time listening to messages and deleting them.
Phone messages on the iPhone are transcribed to text. If it reads like gibberish, then it's a recruiter in a busy office. It only takes me a few minutes to go through 20+ messages and emails, especially since I'm not actively looking for a job. If I was doing an active search, I would get 40 to 60 messages and emails per day.
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My god, you are so amazing! I just can't figure out how you can handle so many emails a day. I have problems handling more than 3 or 4 a day so I have to work overtime and weekends when I get more than that.
You are really a miracle worker!
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Yeah, Pajeet and Samir are calling everyone hun.
You mean the three recruiters who are always showing the same identical job description? I haven't heard from them in years. It's very rare that I get even two recruiters with the same job description these days.
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Just based on the comments you made yesterday, we can conclude that in the last 10 years, you've been unemployed at least 33% of the time. Assuming that age discrimination is a factor is the kindest interpretation of facts.
1) It's the economy, stupid.
2) How can there be age discrimination when I often get hired over the phone?
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Sheesh, that sounds like fun. Did you *actively* try to get yourself on spam lists?
I got 800+ connections (mostly recruiters) in LinkedIn. The daily volume isn't bad. Getting birthday wishes for a month after my birthday is very annoying.
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I've been out of the workforce for 9 years taking care of my highly disabled father.
I've helped an older friend (54-years-old) who took care of his dying mother for eight years get back into the workforce. Although he had a few IT support contracts, he transitioned into retail to sell technology products two years ago.
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You should really upgrade your English comprehension. As a published author, creimer could probably help you if you asked nicely enough.
Basically, hyphens have no banned usage. That is merely a matter of style. Where they are required, they are required only to maintain internal consistency. To actually be incorrect, it would have to change the meaning in a way that would conflict with the rest of the statement; pretty much impossible here where the phrase is parenthesized.
So, while your complaint is horses
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Basically, hyphens have no banned usage. That is merely a matter of style.
I beg to differ :-)
Where they are required, they are required only to maintain internal consistency. To actually be incorrect, it would have to change the meaning in a way that would conflict with the rest of the statement
For example: That's a sweet-ass ride vs That's a sweet ass-ride
Huh - looks like I didn't differ after all)
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Depends on what you do I guess. At 60 I'm still employed in IT/Operations as a Systems Engineer. My girlfriend is a MS-SQL DBA and is older than 40 (nope, I'm not saying :) ). Pay wise we're doing pretty well. Not Silicon valley well but nice house well where we are.
[John]
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It really depends on where you work and whether there are more graduates coming from the local universities/colleges than there are jobs available. Whether the company is privately owned, bought out by a foreign investor, or owned by a parent company is another factor. Wall Street values public traded companies based on how low the average age of employees is vs. annual growth. That puts pressure on companies to have annual targets for promotions, hirings and decimation of the workforce.
It also depends on w
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We haven't shoved all our 50+ year old engineers out.
Well not the ones that have kept up with technology and learning. The 50+ year olds that still only know what they knew how to do when they were 25 are pretty useless.
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At least until you turn 50.
The best paid developers with most job security are ones maintaining critical legacy systems written in Cobol and Fortran.
Re:Sure it is (Score:5, Interesting)
At least until you turn 50.
I'm 48, so I guess I'd better be worried?
Nah. I see this complaint all the time, but in all my 30 years in the industry I've never actually seen it, at least for software engineers. If you can solve hard problems and write good code, you can work, and get paid well for it.
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But can you get hired for it?
I know lots of people who were hired in their 50s and 60s. I was 42 when Google hired me, and 45 when my current team within Google "hired" me. A good friend of mine who is 55 just got hired, twice. He got fed up with his job, so he got another one. Didn't like it either, so he jumped ship after six months there to another place. He likes the new one, so I imagine he'll stay there for a few years.
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At 35 people already look at you askance, especially if you're not covered in tattoos and ball bearings.
I was 35-years-old when I switched from being a video game tester to IT support. As a lead tester, I got all the old testers because the youngling lead testers didn't know how to respect their elders. Now that I'm 48, I'm youngest among the greybeards that I work with in government IT.
This is Bull Shit (Score:5, Insightful)
I graduated from a top tier school in May 2000 with a computer science major and electrical engineering minor. In my last year, I was actively recruited, I got flown across the US for interviews with companies everyone here has heard of. I went to one company's 1999 Christmas party including a private concert by an A-list music group everyone here has heard of; they invited a number of seniors in my class as part of their recruitment effort.
I chose a job that started me just over $60,000 plus stock options which was at the upper end of average for 2000 and had huge potential to take me into 6 figures within a few years. Factoring in my minor, I was writing the firmware for a set top internet appliance (hey it was 2000). A few months after I started the job, the original dotcom bubble burst and I actually only had the job 18 months...not even long enough to cover the cost of my degree.
This was 2001 it was almost impossible to find tech jobs at the time, after about 3 years of unemployment I gave up and took a job at much lower pay where most of my coworkers don't have any degree at all. So, 4 years working my ass off for a degree which cost me over $100k while the arts students working in the coffee shop were out partying and making fun of us for working so hard. All to work 18 months in the industry. Most of my friends from school had been laid off by 2002 and never worked in tech again. The last one lost his job 2 years ago and has been out of work since. So 40 years old, no job, no prospects to ever work in his field again.
Now before you say I'm just an unfortunate case...how many 20-something IT workers do you see? Now how many 50-somethings? Where do you think the rest of us are? You hear stories about companies begging mainframe workers to come out of retirement, again bull shit, that friend who's been out of work has been doing mainframe work for the past 15 years, there is no work in the field.
tl;dr - A tech career is a curse I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Getting a computer science degree from a top tier school is the worst mistake I made in my life.
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The only place I've found fifty and over IT workers are in family run companies or the like. Places that value consistency over being on the bleeding edge. I'm such a place now because I'm closer to my 50s than I am to my 20s and went looking for it on purpose. Long term planning, folks. Don't leave home without it.
In any case, places like /. have the problem of users enjoying the bleeding edge of tech and pie-in-the-sky thinking of how the world could be transformed with it. Rarely does the audience here
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For another data point, I'm in a fairly large corporation, multiple data centers around the world and in Ops/Eng working on implementing DevOps and CI/CD, moving my stuff from rcs to git, learning CD for our Ops gear, Ansible, Kubernetes/Cloud Foundry, etc. I think there's a requirement to continue to learn and explore in order to maintain employment. If you're not moving forward, you'll be passed and passed over. With the kids long gone, I have lots of time to continue learning and with my income, I can ha
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The only place I've found fifty and over IT workers are in family run companies or the like.
Most of my career has been at IBM and now Google, and there were/are plenty of over-50s software engineers in both. They're a smaller percentage at Google, but that's mostly because the bulk of new hires are straight out of school, and because the company just hasn't been around that long. But there are older guys -- I work with one engineer who's in his 70s -- and I fully expect to stay at Google until I retire at 60 or so. Unless I decide to quit and start a company which is a distinct possibility now tha
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Actually as a long term tech site, there's a lot of both conservative skepticism around technology and enthusiasm around technologies at /.
So while there are plenty of comments talking about new thing X or thing that is old but somehow new again Y enthusiastically, there are plenty of folks with the skepticism and mocking.
Of course you are one of those young whipper snappers with an ID over 40,000, not some veteran user like I am ;)
Re:This is Bull Shit (Score:5, Insightful)
As an anecdote, yours is a rough one. But you almost make it sound like the tech industry hasn't existed for the last 16 years, which definitely isn't true.
My experience started out similar-ish. I had a physics degree instead of CS, but I had several programming classes in college and enjoyed the technical side more. I got a job in '98 building web sites, and was frankly pretty lazy about career development. I knew HTML and some JavaScript, but nothing else. When the bubble popped in '01 I was laid off.
I was unemployed for a year after that, mostly due to lack of trying, as my health, social life, and financial life imploded for half a dozen different reasons. I still did a little freelance work, and also a little carpentry just to keep food on the table, and eventually got a dollar store job just for something steady. But I also realized I needed to learn more, and picked up some PHP programming and MySQL database understanding, and then got a job at a small shop where I was under-employed, but it was still better than the dollar store.
From there I transitioned to tech support, which I didn't want to do, but was much more reliable than the previous job. I angled my way from full-time support to half support and half web work at the same company, and put up with that for three years until I had a good enough resume to get a much better second-tier support job, and after two years of that moved up to server admin, which is relatively cushy.
I'd still prefer to be doing programming or database work, and occasionally I get snippets of that at the office and more at home, but I've also done an admittedly poor job of pursuing those options, instead chasing other hobbies, playing games instead of writing them, and raising a couple of kids. At 42 I'm on the fence as to whether I should get off my butt and get into programming while there's a big enough chunk of time for it to be worthwhile, or whether I should just sit back and ride out the server side of things. (Either way I'm learning things to stay relevant, it's just whether I want to put in a few years of serious off-the-clock work to transition, or take the gentler if slightly less rewarding path.)
Either way, I don't find the argument believable that the field of tech somehow ceased to exist in 2001, or that it wasn't possible to stay in the field since then, or that it's necessarily a terrible career path.
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Maybe it's just the US, there is a boom in tech jobs in Europe at the moment.
In any case, I think a lot of the reason why tech is well paid in the US is that it tends to be based in areas where the cost of living, particularly rent, is insane.
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I had a single job interview question for at a major OS developer you're heard of in their kernel group that involved spending most of a day at a white board in front of a panel of project managers, not just creating a good, elegant and workable design, but also walking them through my thought process and design decisions. The w
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So you preferred being out of work for 3 years and ending up outside the industry to taking a lowly programming job? Have I missed something?
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Ignore him. He has issues the main one of which is he has narrowly defined "tech industry" to mean the field he wanted to go into. With his degrees, he has a huge selection of fields but those are all beneath him.
I went to a Christmas part where an A-list band was that we have all heard of...
I worked for a company that we have all heard of...
The guy is a bit off his rocker, throwing out meaningless drivel to drive his ego and blame others for the fact he can't get a job in the field he wanted. He got a t
Re: Huh. (Score:2)
Coding is most definitely more skilled than doing an oil change. Maybe if you removed your head from your rectum occasionally you might be able to see that.
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People start out at bad or mediocre jobs and then show others they have talent and then go on to better and better jobs.
We should get a poll going:
How many hard-working guys with valuable skills and a good attitude do you know who can't find any good work?
I'm guessing the numbers would be low these days.
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coding ... tech support.. oil changes on cars all day.
One of these three things is not like the other two. You're not sure which, but I'll bet most slashdot readers can spot the one that is different from the other two.
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For another, the job I did end up taking pays more than a "programming" job though not nearly as lucrative as what I was promised during the last tech bubble, I just really, really hate it. As I would really, really hate a programming job.
And today, we're in a similar sort of tech bubble with idiotic articles like the one here leading a whole new generat
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What do you mean, "what you were promised"? The only thing a college degree promises you is that you have to pay for the schooling to get it. You sound like an entitled twat that doesn't want to code because it's for the lesser people and you have disdain for any job that isn't exactly your dream vision of what your job should be. That probably explains why you can't find an agreeable position, if that attitude comes out in interviews or phone screens. Many companies don't want or need a high level guy
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Unemployed looks worse than a 'programmer'. Realistically speaking, folks don't know what a candidate may mean when they cal themselves a 'software engineer' versus 'architect' versus 'programmer', because people self identify in various ways and are given various titles for similar work, so being in the general ballpark is going to get you in the door unless there's just an overwhelming number of candidates. Once in the door, then a more nuanced contemplation of your knowledge and experience happens.
But
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No, "computer science" means you work for a University.
"Programming" means you work for some sort of company that does work.
That is the full entire extent of the difference between the words. Everything else about them is exactly the same. And if you disagree, you're either an idiot or a linguist, and linguists are in a different field and so should pipe down and wait their turn.
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I too had a huge hiccup at the .com bust. My situation forced me to took a really crappy low paying IT job, in fact I could have made more at a fast food place, but it was at least vaguely relevant to my career aspirations and I needed *some* way to pay for rent and expenses.
However, *having* that job enabled me to actually *get* a better job within 6 months.
Then that company tripped up, and again I took a not as crappy, but still crappy IT job. Again within 6 months, I was back to a decent job, which wit
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I too had a huge hiccup at the .com bust.
I went the, "I'll just freelance for low wages and scrape by until it gets better" route, and it wasn't long before I was bidding below minimum wage and losing out because my prices were too high. Then I switched to a job as a tree trimmer, which didn't pay much but at least I got to spend time outside. And I learned a lot about tools, which has really come in handy in my tech work and opened a lot of new horizons for me.
The most important thing about those "off" years isn't what you did, it is what your at
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There's the [junior|senior] software engineer, team leader, tech lead, project manager, director. A "[senior] software developer" seems to be more management than a software engineer. Engineering is more about collaboration and gettings bits of software to work together. Collaboration is the big thing now.
In the other direction, there is applications programmer/scientific programmer/visualization programmer. Programming is figuring out how to get a computer system to do a particular tasks eg. simulation pro
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You seem really obsessed with name recognition and authoritative titles.
Programming is just programming, it is a loose word and so should be used loosely. Your snobbery around it just tells me that you're probably impossible to work with; you're willing to be technically incorrect where the only thing you even get out of it is standing on the side of the pedanticism you declared superior!
See also: http://programming-motherfucke... [programmin...fucker.com]
Yeah me too (Score:2)
I got hit when the .com bubble popped too. Lost a job that I really liked a lot.
It took me about 4 months in Ohio to find another tech job, and it was a shitty one. I had to dial back my expectations a bit. Ok, a lot really. That's what finally fixed things. It wasn't the right time to look for the .com office with the ping pong tables and espresso machines. That was gone. Instead it was take a pay cut and work at a miserable garage in one of the worst parts of Cleveland near the airport with a 1 1
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One friend of mine from school actually washed ou
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Which is kind of my point about the field being horrible; 5 years out of school, 1 hiccup in the industry, and I was screwed out of any job that would use what I went to school for.
As Alan Kay repeatedly stated, it's a pop culture, not a field.
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Yet we continue to encourage young people to major in it.
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Protip: if your degree took more than 2 years to achieve, it was not job training and you were not going to school for a specific job.
Also, if a 2 year degree has the word "associate" in it, it did not train you for any job.
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I had to jump through hoops to go from being a Mac developer using XCode and objective-C to being an iOS developer using XCode and objective-c.
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the only way to get employed for a new skill set is to have done it on the job
Or lie creatively about having done it on the job (after having spent enough time learning it independently that you do actually know it). Not that I would ever do such a thing.
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How is defense not a part of "tech"?
I came here to ask the same question. I've been in defense and aerospace for 34 years, and it's been a challenging and rewarding career path, working with some of the brightest people I've ever run into, and unusual, cutting-edge projects. Some people apparently think that "tech" means "writing mobile Apps! to provide distraction for 20-somethings".
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If it smells like a bubble, quacks like a bubble, and pays like a bubble, it's probably a bubble
So Smalltalk programmers should be worried? :)
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No, but they might want to learn Ruby just in case.
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GUI has evolved for at least 30+ years. People were doing objected orientated assembly language back in the 1980's and mid 1990's on 8-bit/16-bit systems. The alternatives were for workstations were X-windows/Motif or Windows (win32). Sun brought out Java, and Microsoft brought out MFC then C#.
Trolltech provided Qt for desktops, but then moved into mobile. Now they are competing against Unity and Unreal for the API for desktop VR/AR/visualization applications and brought out QSG (Q-SceneGraph and QML).
Touch
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Let's say you amazingly make $80k somehow without a degree. You clear $50k and save $25k and keep it up for 10 years. At 10% return, you'll have $400,000. At 20% return it would be $650,000. Now remember you can't invest 50% of your pay tax free, so when you pay taxes every year, you'll actually have
Half of the story (Score:4, Insightful)
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Actually I suspect that you would find that the reason this is as low as it is is because there are actually a lot of tech jobs outside of the valley, NYC, Boston, Seattle ect. Places were making 90K, or even less, leaves you with considerable disposable income. The averages in the higher price areas are probably higher than the national average (though in some cases, maybe not enough above). Admittedly there aren's salary surveys that I know of that adjust all salaries to some geographically neutral bas
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While it might be highest in terms of raw numbers, if you take into effect the cost of living in places where tech jobs tend to be located, the actual standard of living afforded by that wage might be lower than for someone working in a career that pay less but is located in a cheaper area.
Valid point, unless you can swing a telecommuting job, and can work well that way. Then you can live cheap while making good money.
I'm not buying this (Score:2)
And yet... (Score:2, Interesting)
It all comes down to location (MidWest), skills (plenty o' them), and adaptability (plenty).
I've also, for 20 years, been the youngest member of my team everywhere I go. I'm now nearly 40 and I'm still the young'un.
Get off the coasts, the rest of the country has plenty of work for people.
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There's plenty of great paying jobs in Minneapolis (Midwest). My team's median is 90K.
Yeah says linkedin (Score:3)
"Study says petroleum jobs most lucrative" --BP
"Study says telco jobs most lucrative" --AT&T
I could go on like that forever but I think you get the point.
Self-Selection Bias? (Score:2, Insightful)
This sounds like LinkedIn is going to suffer from a huge self-selection bias.
How many welders, electricians, and plumbers are using LinkedIn?
Those are all really good paying jobs, and I doubt those are fields which tend to use LinkedIn.
I have doubts about the value of this survey.
What The Fuck? (Score:2, Informative)
Most lucrative?
Oh, you mean after medicine, management, finance...
This entire article is LinkeIn clickbait pandering to their target market.
$92k? (Score:2)
Pretty sure my plumber is making that much.
Ditto my physician.
Perhaps this study is biased?
How do you guys earn 80-110K a year? (Score:2)
Median income? What?
I live in Sweden and don't earn more than 40K a year as an 50+ IT supporter, and that's for a LARGE company.
Who earns these dream figures? And teachers that earn 80K? I've never even encountered one that earns that much.
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The tech jobs in the US (especially those that end up getting surveyed like this) are concentrated in a few big cities on the coasts, where the costs of living are 2x-3x the rest of the country. Thus the salaries are 2x-3x the rest of the country. Also keep in mind that with minimal social programs, we need to pay for a lot more things, many of them provided by for-profit companies which charge a lot more. And those for-profit companies hire people and pay them lots of money.
Does that include everyone dumped at age 45+? (Score:2)
I was in tech- and as early as 1985 saw older 45 year old programmers dumped and pushed out of the field.
I saved hard and retired at 51 - when hundreds of co-workers were dumped out on the street (and out of the career).
IT is a nice 20 year career. After that, you are increasingly likely to be age discriminated out of a job regardless of how current you keep your skills.
Save hard and be ready when the end reaches you. Be happy if you are one of the lucky few who makes it into their 60s in IT.
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Part of it is that when one is experienced, it's hard to be exuberant about stupid IT fads that PHB's or bullshit artists push on the organization. "Oh boy! Another stupid fad to drain time and money! Weeeee!" Newbies don't know any better: ignorance is bliss, and it's hard to fake bliss in such a workplace. How does one stay enthusiastic about wasteful fads? Take happy-pills after 45?
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I remain convinced these claims are either exaggerated, or occur in certain pockets/niches, because some people swear they see it a lot, but plenty of other people say they don't. (I definitely never have, but I've also never lived in a major tech center.)
If you (the general you) are worried about it, maybe a good choice is to arrange to find yourself by age 40, 45, or 50 at a company or industry that seems to value and support older employees. I'm 42, and I'd say I'm almost exactly at the median age of my
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If you bothered to look at the report, you will noticed a graph near the bottom that shows those who have an associate degree make $57K per year. I've made $55K last year. I might make more this year since my manager keeps hinting at a pay raise and larger Christmas bonus (an extra month of pay). Not bad for cleaning out IT closets.
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If you bothered to learn to write, you will notice you can't write.
Don't worry. I just ordered "Crafting The Personal Essay: A Guide for Writing and Publishing Creative Non-Fiction" [amzn.to] by Dinty W. Moore with the coffee money that I earn from monetizing my Slashdot comments. I'll be writing better creative non-fiction comments in no time. :P
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cremier is so poor he has to resort to amazon linkbux.
Nah... I just do it to piss off my trolls and make coffee money off of them.
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Like your ebooks, your living space, your financial situation, and your life, you are subpar and well below the average.
I've never had a conventional much less an average life.
But that's not what your job description claims you're responsible for.
Nope. But my trolls get very excited and start humping my legs like a pack of Chihuahuas in heat whenever I mention "IT closest" in a comment. On that note, you can stop humping my leg.
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Have you ever stopped to consider why you are the only commenter on slashdot who has their own trolls? Out of the millions of registered slashdot accounts, nobody else gets flamed and trolled the way you do. Its sign that you personally have a unique problem interacting with the community and its disruptive to actual discussion of topics.
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Have you ever stopped to consider why you are the only commenter on slashdot who has their own trolls?
Check out Hello, Slashdot! [bit.ly], The Original Slashdot F.A.Q. (Circa 2006) [bit.ly], and the blog posts [bit.ly] that I've written about my nasty little trolls.
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There is no reason to use bit.ly links on slashdot unless you're trying to hide something.
Bit.ly tracks the number of clicks and geographic breakdown for each link. For the three links I've posted: 643 (25% USA), 484 (77% USA) and 140 (75% USA).
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StupidMonkey, the reason he has his own trolls is that he is actually their troll; he pokes them with a stick just often enough to get them to keep wasting their lives humping his leg.
Everybody else that had trolls that determined either left or put in the legwork to get them banned, get their ISP accounts shut off, etc., until they lacked means or desire to continue. He's the first one to successfully monetize them and turn them into part of his schtick.
I've been observing this for awhile and I still can't
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No, it's true. You've had a well below average life. You make below average money. Your health is below average. Your writing talent is below average. Your ability to grasp simple concepts is below average. You're terrified of sex. The only thing above average about you is the number of calories you eat daily, and your burgeoning weight.
For 48 years of my life, I've been told by people what I can't do. Good thing I don't listen to these negative people. Otherwise, my life would be truly miserable.
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Why, what have you done?
Breath.
Nor should we be surprised [Re: gender balance... (Score:4, Informative)
Article quoted below. Clearly a woman wrote this. An angry disgruntled woman.
Men are greatly overrepresented in the highest-paying industries. Software and hardware tech industries pay the most and have over twice as many males than females. ...
Well, obsession with computers is stereotypically an attractor for people who are autistic (or at least Asperger's)*, antisocial, or obsessive-compulsive (or all of the above). Since autism is overwhelmingly a syndrome affecting males*, this is not surprising.
(and, while being antisocial is something I suppose could be either male or female, in females our society strongly disapproves of it, while in males being antisocial is considered "rugged individualism.")
*Citation: https://autism-help.org/interv... [autism-help.org] "OBSESSIVE USE OF COMPUTERS BY AUTISTIC CHILDREN... for Autism or Asperger's syndrome, a child can become obsessed with computers..."
https://forums.psychcentral.com/attention-deficit-disorder-add-adhd/275768-computer-rules-hidden-danger-children-adhd-autism.html "As you may have noticed, children with a disorder that falls on the autism spectrum seem to have an intense love of computers."
**citation: http://www.autism.org.uk/about... [autism.org.uk]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4164392/
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The main thing though is crawling over
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But I worry that taking a help desk or barista job in bad times causes one to become pigeon holed, kind of like how the actors on the sopranos aren't on much else bc they were so type cast.
I was out of work for two years (2009-10) because recruiters saw that I had help desk experience for the last three positions, assumed that I want to continue working help desk, and told me that no help desk jobs were available. Never mind that I wasn't applying for a help desk job. When the economy turned around in 2011, recruiters were eager to overlook my help desk experience since they needed bodies to fill out their positions in a hurry.