Hulu Lowers Prices After Netflix Raises Theirs (variety.com) 108
Coincidentally, as Netflix raised their prices last week, Hulu decided to lower theirs. The streaming service is now offering a plan, which includes commercials, for $5.99 per month for the first year -- a short-term promotion aimed at luring new subs with the kickoff of the fall television and Hulu's expanded TV library lineup. Variety reports: Hulu's special offer for the limited-commercials plan is available through Jan. 9, 2018, only to new or returning Hulu subs. After one year, the regular $7.99 monthly price will kick in. Hulu offers a commercial-free option for $12 per month, and a live TV service (which includes access to original series like Emmy-winning "The Handmaid's Tale" and on-demand titles) for $40 monthly. A Hulu rep said the company's new promo is intended to draft off the fall 2017 TV season. As it looks for another original series on the order of "Handmaid's Tale" -- so far its only breakout hit -- Hulu has inked deals to bring thousands of current and older TV shows to the platform to armor-up in its battle with rivals Netflix and Amazon Prime.
Lower? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sorry, but "new promotional rates" is not lowering prices.
1. It doesn't reduce anything for anyone who is already paying.
2. It's a promotional rate. The regular rate is the same.
So, it's a temporary sale to lure in new subscribers. That's different.
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You know, there are a ton of Trump stories on slashdot without forcing this discussion to become a Trump one.
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And it only applies to the lowest tier. The normal version without any commercials is same as Netflix price. The more expensive "live TV" version is kind of useless without a DVR like feature (we've had DVRs and VCRs so long now that few people watch TV live anymore except for sports).
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I don't understand people who pay for commercial, pay for someone to enter their lounge room and scream at them about shit they don't want. Once you start going largely commercial free, those commercial when you occasionally come across, come across as extremely aggressive and loud, hugely undesirable and really put you off products. There are products they I totally avoid as a result of aggressive commercial placement and a very loud and aggravating style. If people behaved like commercial did, wander into
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Is that the live streaming one? I have no interest in that, but I like their $11.99 ad-free one.
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True. Not only that, you used to be able to watch a fair amount on PC with an unpaid account. Now they have nothing. I checked that a couple of months ago to see if anything had changed.. it hadn't. I had lost interest in it a few years ago because too many ads, that they repeated over and over for too long, and mostly shit content.
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They dropped the free tier a while back.
Basically it was all stuff available from the networks anyway.
Re: Lower? (Score:2)
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Also useless considering that Hulu's potential user base is 300m people in the US, whereas Netflix has a global potential user base. Until Hulu is available elsewhere they're fighting over a tiny piece of the pie. As one of the non US Netflix subscribers, Hulu could offer to GIVE me $500/mo to ditch Netflix for them and I still probably wouldn't do it because I can't actually use Hulu. Well, maybe I would do that for a few months and then go binge Netflix afterward... because that's a lot of money to jus
Re:Lower? (Score:5, Insightful)
Lowering prices means lower prices for everyone. That is clearing not the case here.
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No it doesn't. It would mean everyone is they said lowering for everyone. You can't add words to something and then say it means the same thing,
That said, until cable reduces costs for internet only plans, most people won't officially cut the cord.
I have cable. I never watch it, but I have it since it costs more or the same to not have it.
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Re:Lower? (Score:4, Insightful)
No, Quirkz is correct: a temporary promotional price is not a "lowered price" in the commonly understood sense. It's a "sale price".
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They only lowered prices for new customers and only for 12 months.
Saying they "lowered prices" is grossly incorrect because all existing customers will not see a lowered rate.
Hey, bread's been lowered from $2 to $1.
Okay, I want some.
Oh-- it's $2 for you.
But you lowered prices?!?!
Yes- but not for you.
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But it is still lower for the people they sell it at 1 dollar to.
If they said "1 dollar for all customers" then you'd have a point.
And considering Hulu is upfront about this (it's the article from the Verge that uses the phrasing you find deceptive), not sure what the problem is in any case
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And considering Hulu is upfront about this (it's the article from the Verge that uses the phrasing you find deceptive), not sure what the problem is in any case
IMO, the problem is that many of us are sick of shitty editorials that not only add no value, but get worse because they provide misleading or incorrect information.
Someone took time to write, "Coincidentally, as Netflix raised their prices last week, Hulu decided to lower theirs", as a summary of some points from the article, but that's wrong. It leads those with existing Hulu contracts to expect to pay less for the next year, which will drive far more interest into the article than if it read, "Coincident
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No. If Hulu advertise that they have lowered their prices but then doesn't give lower prices to all customers then they are engaging in bait and switch fraudulent behavior. Same as if the dealership says they are selling trucks for a certain price and then only actually sells those trucks to new customers.
If you say, "Hulu lowered prices" the default reasonable expectation is that they lowered prices generally. Not that they lowered prices for new customers who will be a tiny number compared to their cur
Seems only fair (Score:5, Insightful)
I pay $5.99 for the privilege of watching your commercials?
Tell you what, I'll sign up when the CEO of Hulu comes and sucks my hairy balls. And I'll only charge him $5.99 and he has to listen to me talk about my fantasy football team and the cute thing my cat did. For three hours. While he sucks my hairy balls.
Honestly, the cheek of these bastards. Do they not know how the whole idea of "commercials" works?
Re: Seems only fair (Score:2)
It's exactly the same as the cable companies do...
Re: Seems only fair (Score:5, Interesting)
>"It's exactly the same as the cable companies do..."
No it isn't, not even close. With cable, anyone with any brain uses a DVR (I use a TiVo) and skips the commercials. Streaming, on the other hand, can FORCE commercial viewing, and that is exactly what Hulu does- forced commercials.
And with cable/DVR, you can record what you want for later viewing, and without a live Internet connection. Streaming video and your Internet goes down? Too bad. No more video.
And with cable/DVR, I can record hundreds of hours of video and it doesn't impact my Internet speed at all. And my Internet usage doesn't impact video at all. Never any dropping of resolution spontaneously, no missing frames, no freezing.
And with cable/DVR, I can pause, play, rewind, fast forward, and frame-by-frame effectively with my video. And it does so instantly- no lag, no "loading", no hiccups.
So no, this is not "exactly the same as cable."
I don't care if Hulu with commercials was FREE, if it has forced commercials, neither I nor many others will use it. I haven't watched commercials (unless I WANT to) for over 16 years and I will NEVER go back.
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And the drawbacks to cable/DVR - no on-demand shows (except a few curated ones), a limited selection of shows at any time, amazingly overpriced subscription fees, and terrible service.
I don't like commercials, but compared to cable/DVR I'd rather have Hulu with commercials. And Hulu has the option to pay more for no commercials anyway, same price as Netflix. The super-cheap option is subsidized by commercials.
And I do think the "subsidized by commercials" is a bad deal. If they make enough money on broadc
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>"I don't like commercials, but compared to cable/DVR I'd rather have Hulu with commercials."
Choice is a good thing. Free markets give consumers more of what they want. I, for one, am glad Hulu exists even though I have no interest in at least their commercial model, because it spurs more competition. In the past we had none and it is about time the cable monopolies fall under real pressure.
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>"Complete BS. What sort of fucking retard are you? A free market is by definition not required to do anything for the consumer. That's the whole fucking definition."
Um, if they don't give the consumer what they want, another company will. Or do you think Communism works better?
>"Complete shit for brains..."
Look in the mirror, foul-mouthed coward...
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Free with ads, or monthly fee with no ads.
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Awesome. You should set up a video service with your model.
I won't be subscribing to another commercial channel but it doesn't mean that it doesn't have value for a lot of people. And 5 dollars is cheaper than a lot of cable plans (which usually include commercials.)
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The free version on PC's has just as many commercials (AFAICT) as the $7.99/month version on TV connected systems (roku, appletv, firetv, xbox, ps3/ps4, etc). IMO, they're charging because they can get away with it on those systems, and they don't feel they could get away with it on the PC. They even made a hulu desktop version that had built in support for remotes and was free, but so few people have media centers, and those that do are usually capable of finding the programs elsewhere for free (pirate), s
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Wasn't their old model free with ads, and monthly fee with ads? This definitely caused a lot of people to prefer Netflix at the time.
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Yup! I tried their free service, and it totally sucked. There was NFW I'd try their paid stuff, until they offered the ad-free service.
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It has a commercial-free tier, with some network-exclusive content. That was the only time they interested me. I'd have never paid them to watch commercials. Once you go commercial free, you really can't go back.
Only it was "mostly" commercial free (a few exceptions). And they also pasted a bug in the corner of the screen advertising the local affiliate station, which was distracting to me (that's an awesome way to make torrents look better than paid subscriptions). And I found I just didn't watch all
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Hulu has 17% of the market and climbing. Some people clearly want it.
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Netflix also got there by having streaming early on that was better than Hulu and without commercials.
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does this magical antenna thing work on your phone or tablet?
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does this magical antenna thing work on your phone or tablet?
I don't necessarily agree with everything else the gp said, but with Tablo you can watch antenna TV on your mobile device:
https://www.tablotv.com/blog/a... [tablotv.com]
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It's $10/month for me, no big deal. And broadcast really doesn't have that much. Ie, Doctor Who, Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, and so forth. Sure, wait long enough on broadcast and stuff shows up in syndication, and you will get "edited for content/time" movies as well.
If I didn't have internet then your argument might make sense as adding in the boradband capable ISP is by far the bulk of the cost for streaming.
Of course, you could be like where my mother is; the internet is terrible and d
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apples and oranges? (Score:2, Insightful)
To even mention the limited commercials price is extremely misleading.
What I see in the article is that Netflix offers a $7.99 / month plan for a single stream non-HD commercial-free stream or $10.99 / month for the standard HD plan, and Hulu's lowest commercial free option is apparently $12 / month.
So, the article says Hulu is more expensive than Netflix unless you're willing to listen to commercials at which time it becomes the same price as the lowest price commercial-free Netflix plan (after the bait-a
Stick your commercials you know where (Score:5, Insightful)
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If the amount of money they say my watching commcercials can earn companies, they owe me $10/month as the very least.
And Increased Ads (Score:3)
I noticed that Hulu recently increased the numbers ads in between breaks: I believe from 4 to 5 now. It seems close to interminable. In some cases recently I've finished my dinner and just shut off the program before it could get back.
Since it's inception they've been ratcheting up the ads per break. I think 2 to begin with, now up to 5. I wonder where the end-point is.
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Holy crap. Broadcast TV doesn't even show that many ads at the breaks.
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Torrents (Score:3, Funny)
Are offering a very competitive rate. You pay $0 per month, which comes out to $0 per year. Torrents are also commercial free. They offer an impressive library of new and old content including access to original series like Emmy-winning "The Handmaid's Tale." Compared to Netflix and Hulu offerings this is an impressive deal indeed, and it's not some kind of teaser rate that expires after a few months. The $0 fees for torrents are going to last well beyond the 2017 season.
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And is this "Torrents" thing limited to the U.S.A. like Hulu, or is it available world-wide?
New Hulu Interface driving people away (Score:3)
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I know I am seriously thinking of dropping Hulu because of their horrible UI.
Probably will next week---after getting my antenna installed.
Re: New Hulu Interface driving people away (Score:3)
Came here to day this. My gut reaction is that this has nothing to do with Netflix and everything to do with losing subscribers. I dropped because of the new UI. It's not just a "change is bad" reaction either. If the new changes were mostly usable, I would adapt. I left because bad change is bad and I'll keep my couple of bucks and put it into an external antenna. The mohu does OK but now it's time to get serious.
The Ads make this a non-starter for me. (Score:1)
The whole point of moving to streaming is to get away from the 10-15 minutes of commercials. It's way past the point of ridiculous. I can't even watch regular TV anymore. Netflix+Prime has allowed me to ditch the ads, and I ain't never going back!
If Hulu is ADDING to the number of ads, I don't really expect them to be around much longer...
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I haven't have any complaints with their $11.99 ad-free service. The extra money is well worth it.
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I love being able to watch a 1 hour show in 45 minutes the day after it airs.
This time of year it's the service I use most.
Un-FUBAR the interface now (Score:5, Interesting)
All they need to do now us roll back that useless FUBAR interface they pushed out recently. Thats why they are hemorrhaging subscribers.
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So torn (Score:2)
On the one hand, I'm happy to see anyone taking Netflix down a notch.
On the other hand, Hulu is the team effort of Disney, Fox, and Comcast -- and I can't really cheer for any of those guys.
So they want a subscription (Score:2)
AND want you to watch ads? Huh. That sounds familiar for some reason ... and equally odious.
And I will continue paying for Netflix (Score:5, Insightful)
But I will never pay for Hulu.
Netflix isn't perfect and the price increase is mildly annoying I guess. One more dollar a month? I can deal with it. Hulu with no commercials is still more expensive and I still haven't finished watching everything I want to watch on Netflix.
And compared to what I was paying for cable before I cut the cord it's completely insignificant.
But why is Netflix raising their prices by a whole dollar considered news anyway?
Is it news when Comcast raises the price of their service by more than that or when they drop a bunch of channels from the basic plan?
One thing that's great about Netflix is I know how much it will cost from month to month and if there's ever a price increase Slashdot or some other internet news will warn me about it - lord knows Netflix never talks to me. I don't even know if they have a current email address.
But with cable TV you never know what your monthly bill will be and if they tell you one price you know they're neglecting a bunch of add-on fees and it will go up or channels will be removed.
With Netflix, I guess I'll lose Disney movies but I haven't even mustered up the patience to watch that Star Wars movie that's on Netflix because there's other stuff I'd rather watch.
JUST cancelled (Score:3)
Limited commercials? (Score:1)
Hulu is struggling to keep users (Score:1)
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I didn't notice any missing content on the Roku. But the other day, I was on the iPad, and a bunch of my stuff appeared to be missing.