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Vidme To Shut Down On Dec 15th 2017 49

New submitter substance2003 writes: has announced they are shutting down on December 15th 2017 citing that they could not find a path to sustainability. This news should be of concern as content creators have been getting increasingly frustrated with Youtube's algorithms that demonetize their videos and this means they have one less alternative to turn towards.
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Vidme To Shut Down On Dec 15th 2017

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  • Um... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 04, 2017 @05:43PM (#55675297)


    • by Anonymous Coward

      > Who?

      Beyond that: "why?"

      The fact that we don't know them means that Google never took me there... either they failed to promote their site or Google might have some reason to not show them to me.

    • by pots ( 5047349 )
      VID.ME I can't believe how deaf readers can be sometimes.

      They're not huge, but I've been seeing them around more and more lately. People who attempt to make a living by posting videos on the internet keep searching for better options than youtube, because youtube is terrible for content creators, and is the most recent popular option. Trouble is, there's no money in it for the host, even youtube only breaks even, so they don't last long. Remember Blip? Same thing.
  • by Lab Rat Jason ( 2495638 ) on Monday December 04, 2017 @05:46PM (#55675323)

    ... an unknown video platform began publishing news of their eminent demise on random tech aggregation sites.

    Use this one weird trick to launch your YouTube knockoff company!

  • Who? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Frosty Piss ( 770223 ) * on Monday December 04, 2017 @05:48PM (#55675335)

    Never heard of them. But a lot of people have been trying - to various levels of success to squeeze free money out of YouTube. Sorry, but YouTube owns them nothing. If you can make money on YouTube, fine, but if you don't have a business arrangement with the Googlies, don't be crying when they change up the rules...

    • Re:Who? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by MightyYar ( 622222 ) on Monday December 04, 2017 @05:56PM (#55675383)

      Sorry, Google can't have it both ways. When you use the site, you need to agree to terms and conditions. That's a commercial contract - that's a business relationship. People can gripe all they want as far as I'm concerned. If enough of them gripe together, they might even change their side of the deal for the better.

    • That doesn't sound like the case here. From what I can tell, was essentially an alternative to Youtube - it allows people to upload their videos, control who can advertise on them, and offer subscription/tip services to their creators.

      All sounds like a perfectly fine idea - kinda like Youtube but with the monetary structure of Twitch and/or Patreon built-in.

      The issue, likely, is that like you, I had never heard of them until today, and I'm betting most other people hadn't either.

      Also, to really comp

    • For what it's worth, I don't think trying to create popular content so as to get a slice of the advertising revenue is "free money". After all, that's what most websites try to do, does it matter if the platform is Youtube or Wordpress?

      It's almost certainly true that Alphabet/Youtube owes those content creators nothing in a contractual sense, since the terms of service and payment plans are all written by them on a "take it or leave it" basis. Like it seems every other technology company (and no few non

      • For what it's worth, I don't think trying to create popular content so as to get a slice of the advertising revenue is "free money". After all, that's what most websites try to do, does it matter if the platform is Youtube or Wordpress?

        Advertisers are willing to pay more for preroll video inventory than for text or static image inventory.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        What kind of content is being demonitized and why? Taking away ad income from say hate speech, trippy kid-targeted adult content, ISIS execution videos and so on is basically a form of moderation. That sort of thing is already covered by the existing TOS, so I don't have a problem with it.

        It's not even a TOS thing. Advertisers are a very conservative bunch, and they have a whole list of topics to which they will and will not advertise with.

        What happened was Google screwed up and a few of those ads were show

        • Thanks for your post. You made some good points there. As for as the surprised Youtubers, I have little sympathy. You go into business with someone, providing content which they then pay you for is just that, a business. If you don't understand how that business works and why it works that way, then you really don't have the moral high ground when that business has to change. No matter what field of human endeavour, ignorance is expensive.

          As for thin-skinned advertisers, I can understand why they are tha

    • by beckett ( 27524 )
      It will be interesting to see what happens next when content creators that have sufficiently large enough followings will be able to wean themselves and their followers off youtube. ultimately it's the content that is more important than the platform.
      • At least one of the big boys on YouTube (Joe Rogan) also releases his vodcast on iTunes and he says he gets significantly more views through iTunes. Not sure how to view his iTunes numbers, but he has 1.9 million subscribers on YouTube with many of his shows getting 1 million+ views within a week there.

        The issue on the table is convenience. YouTube and iTunes are convenient because people already go there. I check my YouTube subscriptions every day. Its like turning on the TV and looking at what the DVR h
    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by hairyfeet ( 841228 )

      You obviously haven't been paying attention. in case you haven't heard Google has put a full on SJW as president of YouTube who went so far as to give exclusive interviews to the Young Turks (you know, the ones that deny the Armenian genocide because it doesn't fit their political narrative?) and while not doing shit about the "kill all the whites and jews" far left channels like BAMN or even doing shit about the rampant pedo invasion [] they've had for FOUR FRICKING YEARS now what they HAVE done is rush to de

      • Unless Crowder is also streaming elsewhere, he doesnt get more views than CNN.

        Joe Rogan does tho, and that just on YouTube numbers, and he also streams elsewhere. Significantly bigger than all the CNN talking heads combined.

        On the subject of Crowder, I think he has found a good way to monetize while being demonetized. His Mug Club seems to be paying for half a dozen employees. I find that incredible.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    ...whenever I search around for videos. And these are for videos that I personally uploaded and know are the only copies. YouTube videos appear in results almost instantly. DailyMotion videos usually appear after a day or two, sometimes a week. videos never appear in results.

    I don't know if that's Google's fault or theirs, but they can't have a web business without traffic.

  • Eli the Computer Guy on YouTube has a series of videos on his dealing with VidMe six months ago. Hilarious stuff. []

  • I couldn't find video views per month, but is apparently getting about 20 million "visits" a month. Youtube gets near 150 billion "video views" per month (nearly 5 billion / day from the billion+ unique users). 150 billion / 20 million = 7500. So, if every single visit to is resulting in a video view, they are still 1 / 7500th of Youtube's traffic. They are ranked somewhere between 2000th and 7000th in the world depending on which traffic ranking site you look at. is nobody.

    So, yeh, why

  • by SmaryJerry ( 2759091 ) on Monday December 04, 2017 @08:17PM (#55676485) had more ADs than the superbowl. It's basically a big advertisement site with a few videos. Not nice ads either, often the popups that claim your computer has a virus, or despite having popups blocked, still pops up ads in the background.

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