AT&T Sheds Thousands of Employees After Touting GOP Tax Plan, Giving Out Bonuses (appleinsider.com) 105
Prior to Christmas, AT&T and DirecTV gave layoff notices to a large number of landline, legacy service, and home installers spanning the country. "It is not clear if the firings relate to the pending AT&T and Time Warner acquisition, or how it specifically relates to the announcement that the company was giving $1,000 bonuses to 200,000 employees in commemoration of the tax overhaul signed just before Christmas," reports Apple Insider. Slashdot reader deadwill69 writes: Just more doublespeak after they announced their bonus program to justify the tax cuts. Seems they really didn't mean it after all. "Technology improvements are driving higher efficiencies, and there are some areas where demand for our legacy services continues to decline, and we're adjusting our workforce in some of those areas as we continue to align our workforce with the changing needs of the business," AT&T said in a statement to the Chicago Tribune. "Many of the affected employees have a job offer guarantee that ensures they'll be offered another job with the company, and we'll work to find other jobs for as many of them as possible." Let's hope they keep that promise. On a bright note: their service really couldn't get much worse?
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Well I guess it's nice that they gave some bonus money to rank and file employees before the layoff, vs just the c-levels (per the norm).
So progress perhaps?
Re: Will you just rename the site already (Score:2)
besides being factual
Oh, if only it was...
AT&T is shedding 600 employees, not 'thousands' - does anyone at /. even read the title before publishing a post?
Six hundred employees out of 200,000 is what, about 3/10th of one percent of their workforce.
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On Dec. 16, about 600 employees were notified of the pending layoffs. Most of those were across mid-west states, with some of those including higher-skilled workers. Other layoffs by the company include "more than 700" DirectTV home installers across the country. Additionally, in December, AT&T fired 215 technicians in "nine Southern states" according to the New York Post, with another 700 reportedly coming in Texas and Missouri in February.
Union had already negotiated bonus (Score:5, Informative)
Re: Union had already negotiated bonus (Score:2)
They are 'firing' 3/10ths of one percent of the workforce (600 out of 200K) - is AT&T giving it's workers a 3/10th of one percent raise?
I think not.
FirstNet (Score:1)
http://about.att.com/story/fir... [att.com]
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And AT&T is what.. a cantaloupe grower? Last I heard they were in the tech business (telecom, which is the used car salesmen of tech, but still tech)
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I'm looking for a good alternative to Slashdot.
Things haven't always been good around here, but I think they're looking bleaker than they have in a long time....
Basically what I want is a site that:
* Is focused on technology, science, mathematics, engineering, computing, programming, and relevant stuff like that. ...I don't think that Slashdot can be salvaged...
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I agree things look bleak on Slashdot and it's probably not salvageable... I would also like an alternative, but I haven't found it yet. However related to your criteria I think Slashdot's anonymous commentary and utter lack of censorship has handed this site over trolls and extreme opinions which have driven away the field experts who used to participate on this site. Slashdot's ideological stand against censorship has allowed the trolls rule, reduced most discussion to nonsense and opened the door to more
Re: Is there a good alternative to Slashdot? (Score:2)
NOT THAT TIME WARNER (Score:5, Informative)
Just putting it out there before the inevitable posts about AT&T buying another ISP.
Trickle down economics doesn't work (Score:5, Interesting)
Bills like this take advantage of the desperate situation most Americans find themselves in. What sucks the most is, that entire situation is completely by design...
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Why are you ignoring the hiring? (Score:5, Insightful)
Over 200k people got bonuses (and also lower taxes), that's much better than a few thousand being laid off.
It also does not detract from the many other companies that gave bonuses also...
Meanwhile AT&T is also hiring into new positions, why is that not factored in? Some jobs will always be lost, and others gained. That has nothing to do with the tax bill - they will ramp up hiring as they already said [att.com]: "Every $1 billion in capital invested in the telecom industry creates about 7,000 jobs for American workers, research shows.". It's still a net gain of workers in the end.
Those two things aren't related (Score:4, Informative)
Similarly, AT&T isn't hiring because of the Tax cuts, their CEO admitted that already. They're hiring because they need workers. Again, Trickle down doesn't work. Businesses hire workers to meet demand. You're trying to put cart before horse. Giving the rich money doesn't increase demand because one person can only spend so much in a day.
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The system as whole includes the $1 *BILLION* increase in capital spending next year (which as mentioned will add about 7k jobs), what a shame you cannot read or you could have avoided beclowning yourself.
Re: Why are you ignoring the hiring? (Score:3)
Follow the link in the summary, AT&T is cutting 600 jobs, not 'thousands'.
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The bonuses had nothing to do with the tax cut. That was part of a union negotiation from earlier this year. Needless to say, it was likely the firing of those employees that lead to the bonuses for the others.
And stop calling it a tax-cut. That's BS marketing. You don't call a cash advance on a credit card a paycheck do you? The tax scam borrowed a huge chucnk of money, gave most of it to the rich and corporations, and then limited the cuts on everyone else so that when the bill comes due it's the middle c
Re:Trickle down economics doesn't work (Score:4, Interesting)
If government takes the money it will spend it in America. Even if it is a waste, white elephant boondongle bridge to nowhere, it is money spent in America. Every dollar spent by X is a dollar earned by Y. This will stimulate the economy.
Give a microscopic tax cut to the actual citizens and give billions to corporations (who are people), they will invest it in India, China, Taiwan and other places. We will be empowering economies to compete with us, while sapping the Americans of the energy to live and consume.
Re: Trickle down economics doesn't work (Score:1)
It worked well, except for the fact that the government failed and collapsed lol.
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What a load of crap. The people you magically describe in your magical single-axis civics thought process doesn't exist. I'm of the standard liberalism breed (centrist model, which is the essence of liberalism no matter what biased sources you'd like to consult). The goal is to always empower the maximum amount of people with the smartest approaches.
The funny thing is, at least according to how you use the term "lefties" ... look at some of your most prominent people who are wealthy. Like a Warren Buffe
You're deliberately twisting my words (Score:2, Informative)
Meanwhile we are borrowing money to give it away to the ultra rich. That borrowed money is being used as a threat to eliminate programs that benefit the middle class and working poor. It's a massive wealth transfer to the monied aristocracy.
You know this.
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The expiration of some of the tax cuts is a budget rules gimmick to be able to use reconciliation in 2017. No one expects them to actually expire because there is bipartisan support for renewing them. That already played out once with the Bush tax cuts and Obama. The people reporting otherwise are those trying to come up with partisan talking points. It makes it pretty obvious where you get your opinions from.
The top 1% already pay more federal income taxes than the bottom 90% pay. If you're going to cut F
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No one expects them to actually expire because there is bipartisan support for renewing them
Meaning whoever is in power at the time will have to decide between sinking the country even further in debt, or raising taxes on the rich again. Only one of those is likely to garner donor support.
That already played out once with the Bush tax cuts and Obama
And 2008 showed just how well Bush' economic policies worked out! Oh but of course we're supposed to blame Obama for that crash, even though it started several months before he took office. I mean Trump takes credit for things that happened before he was president.. I don't see why Obama shouldn't be afforded
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We get it, you're jealous of other people's work and success and you want some government guys with guns to go take stuff from them and give you and your friends some after they take their cut. That's what your "arguments" all boil down to, despite their inaccuracy of fact (for example, you apparently don't even understand marginal tax rates).
It's just too bad that governing philosophy ends up the same each time, like Venezuela.
Good thing that's not what the American people voted for in the last few electio
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you're jealous of other people's work and success
Where did that come from, exactly? Not to mention "work" is a pretty loose concept when we're talking about the 1% (and even success is a pretty questionable adjective for the ones who just inherited everything from daddy.)
some government guys with guns
I always thought the IRS came in with lawyers and accountants, but hey its 'Murca we're talking about so maybe they come packing too?
to go take stuff from them
Take what from them, exactly? Taxation is annoying but governments don't function without it. Its been a part of society for thousands of years. Why sho
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Ah, Canadian. That explains a lot.
In terms of percentages, people earning $1M or higher pay 19.3% of taxes under the old law and 19.8% of taxes under the new tax law. [jct.gov] If you look across all income categories, they pretty much either stay the same or become more progressive (i.e. the poorer pay less of a percentage of total income taxes), but don't let the facts interrupt your diatribe. (By talking only about tax rates, you're leaving out the impact of marginal rates as well as the other changes contained in
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In terms of borrowing money, Federal government spending per capita in constant dollars [usgovernmentspending.com] has increased by 4x over the last 60 years. During the same time, federal government income per capita in constant dollars [usgovernmentrevenue.com] has increased by 3.5x.
The deficit is a result of government spending growing much faster than the increase in revenue has increased. It can't be attributed to less revenue because there is way more tax revenue over time. Saying revenue levels is why the debt is being added to is ridiculous. The gover
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I call BS on that one. Right now, the US has the best economy ever. We have full employment, the Dow is at record levels, and only climbing. The people whining about work are the ones too lazy to actually go get jobs. With this tax cut, it means every American essentially has 15-20% more cash in their pocket, which only will further help things, as when people buy stuff, more workers are needed.
The "desperate situation" is one of entitlement and laziness. The jobs are out there, but it might actually t
Re:Trickle down economics doesn't work (Score:4, Insightful)
So you're asking for evidence about the GOP using their tax scam to attack social services (something that has been fully PREDICTED for decades) and THEN proceed to say "Democrats created a welfare state by telling black women to kick out their men." while not OFFERING any evidence....
Essentially you make up the "What's crazy is that 32% of the population still support this bill (I'm not counting the 1% of the 33%)"
More conspiracy crap (Score:4, Informative)
The Cable/Satellite TV market in the USA is dying on its feet, thanks to the big companies refusing to be flexible and alternative services like Netflix providing better options for less. The layoffs are all legacy/TV related and simply reflect this.
Standard business practice. (Score:2)
To act like this is some evil activity to fuck over the little guy is a level of stupid only found in academia (60-75% dead weight)
Short version: (Score:2)
"People aren't buying as many satellite dishes as we'd planned."
LMFAO 0.55% AT&T employees is "Large Numbers" (Score:1)
This article is laughable. Large companies are constantly, every single day, laying off employees somewhere, someplace. And if they are a growing company, as most successful companies are, they actually add more employees than they lay off. AT&T has 273,000 employees total and laying off 600+700+215 equates to 0.55% of their total workforce and no where near any definition of a "large number" of employees.
Cry me a River, snowflakes.
Any which way you measure it, the US economy is booming and every one of
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A thousand out f 200,000 is a tiny percentage, and a number of them are being offered other jobs within the company.
GE famously cut the bottom 1% of employee's each year, twice as many (by percentage) as this one-time AT&T cut - I don't remember the economy collapsing after those ANNUAL terminations.
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Coward
So-called Republicans are like that (Score:2)
Just adding my firsthand experience at AMD. I was working there in 1988 during the presidential campaign. There were lots of rumors that the company was in trouble and needed to start laying people off, but...
The owner of the company was a big supporter of Poppy Bush. Lots of "Don't worry, be happy" messages were distributed.
After the election and Poppy's victory, the message changed. "Off with their heads."
I actually survived those cuts, but the rise of Quayle contributed strongly to my decision to leave t
The season of giving (employees the finger) (Score:2)
AT&T and DirecTV gave layoff notices to a large number of landline, legacy service, and home installers spanning the country ... ...
the company was giving $1,000 bonuses to 200,000 employees in commemoration of the tax overhaul
Apparently those bonuses will be in lieu of paychecks. Sounds like a win-win for corporations and politicians.
Yep, just as I predicted! (Score:1)
https://www.reddit.com/r/econo... [reddit.com]
"Guaranteed Jobs" (Score:2)
I love that one. It's right up there with "trickle-down economics" and "tree pollution. [rationalwiki.org]"
Here's how that works:
1. You work for MegaCorp in City A. You've lived here for 10 years. You're settled in, and around 40 on the age scale, with a wife and two kids.
2. You're told you're going to be laid off, but they have a job for you in City R, some 700 miles away. The job is yours, if you're willing to move. They'll even give you a moving incentive? But no raise.
3. You pull up stakes, pack up your family, p
General (Score:1)
Not a sustainable situation (Score:2)
I see a lot of commenters crowing about how much more value they deliver than the people who got laid off. Pretty soon, the axe is coming for everyone who isn't an executive as companies figure out a way to automate or eliminate work done by people altogether. That's the big long-term thing we have to worry about.
I guess I'm one of those people who want a corporate class that's more loyal toward their employees. It was only a few decades ago that people didn't have to hop from job to job every few years, up
service? what a joke (Score:2)
The noise on my land line got worse and worse. I called ATT, they sent out an idiot. I explained the problem; the idiot says, "You probably have a little short." Needless to say the idiot couldn't fix the problem. I canceled my land line and haven't missed it, especially the endless sales calls, most of which had faked originating phone numbers.
Dying businesses don't need employees (Score:1)
The landline phone business and cable TV businesses are both dying. I cut the cable a couple years ago for my TV. When I traded my landline for an IP phone about seven years ago, I discovered that I was almost the last among my Silicon Valley co-workers to do it. The Republican tax plan doesn't have anything to do with this; it is just the dying gasp of a couple obsolete businesses.
Layoff is unrelated (Score:2)
What would laying off wireline and other legacy installers have to do with the Time Warner acquisition? What would it have to do with anything other than, I dunno, LEGACY TELCO STUFF IS DYING.