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Schools Are Giving Up on Smartphone Bans (gizmodo.com) 117

Bans on phones in schools are increasingly becoming a thing of the past, new research shows. From a report: A survey from the National Center for Education Statistics exploring crime and safety at schools indicates that there is a trend toward relaxing student smartphone bans. The survey reports that the percentage of public schools that banned cell phones and other devices that can send text messages dropped from nearly 91 percent in 2009 through 2010 to nearly 66 percent in 2015 through 2016.

This drop did not coincide, however, with more lenient rules around social media. In 2009 and 2010, about 93 percent of public schools limited student access to social networking sites from school computers, compared to 89 percent from 2015 through 2016. That's likely because these bans aren't lifted in response to student demands to use their electronics during school hours -- they are bending to the pressure of parents who want to be able to reach their kids.

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Schools Are Giving Up on Smartphone Bans

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    They are shit anyway.

    Or send the kids overseas for better education.

  • by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:21PM (#56374145)
    That's any cell phone made in the past 20 years, not just a smartphone. Personally, I don't think smartphone bans can be enforced easily. The way to enforce them is via grading. Discuss a topic that's not "in the book." Test students on it. Maybe even discuss different "off-book" topics and give the option of which questions to answer to not penalize absent students, but punish students who are perpetually on their phones and tuned out. "Professor, I should have got an A on this exam, it wasn't in the book..." "Next time, put away the phone."
    • by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:26PM (#56374187) Homepage Journal

      I think sending texts during class on a basic cellphone is less distracting than a smartphone tied into dozens of apps and games. If you've ever tried to have a conversation with a child while they were playing an addictive mobile game, you'd know how little of what you say to them that they retain.

      If kids are playing mobile games during class, it is effectively the same as not showing up to class at all.

      • If kids are playing mobile games during class, it is effectively the same as not showing up to class at all.

        To what extent is this also true of the time between the end of the lecture and the bell that signals the end of the class period? Truancy law requires the student to remain in the classroom until that time.

        • I wouldn't look at the law as a source of scientific truth. I don't have the data but I suspect there is measurable differences for students who play games during lectures versus those who are paying attention. But I'm skeptical there is as significant of a difference for students playing games after the lecture is over until the arbitrary start of the next class session.

      • I dunno, back in the day before cell phones, we were playing paper football with each other or something distracting like that.

        Hell, I remember back in the day, when the first LED Mattel Football handheld game came out.

        Our schools finally put bans on us bringing them into school.

        Kids will be kids, but I do feel that those distractions weren't quite so engrossing and distracting for as long a period of time. You could do a little paper football, then back to class attention and then come back and finish p

        • I dunno, back in the day before cell phones, we were playing paper football with each other or something distracting like that.

          Me too. But I think I could still hear and process a lecture while doing paper football. Maybe not 100%, but I think I absorbed some of the lecture.

          Hell, I remember back in the day, when the first LED Mattel Football handheld game came out.

          I'm from the Tiger Electronics and TI Calculator games era. I don't think I retained any of the lecture when I was playing these.

          Kids will be kids, but I do feel that those distractions weren't quite so engrossing and distracting for as long a period of time.

          Engrossing is definitely the word I was looking for. I think some allowances for differences between generations is acceptable as well. We can't realistically expect our children to have a childhood identical to our own. Especially sin

    • by El Cubano ( 631386 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:50PM (#56374333)

      Maybe even discuss different "off-book" topics and give the option of which questions to answer to not penalize absent students, but punish students who are perpetually on their phones and tuned out. "Professor, I should have got an A on this exam, it wasn't in the book..." "Next time, put away the phone."

      I teach at the university level (upper level undergraduate course) and I am shocked at the number of students who simply do not show up to class and of those that do show up the number that spend the entire period playing games on their phones or computers.

      I personally don't care, as at that level they are grown ups and can make their own decisions. However, I do make sure to tell them several times in the first few lectures that three will be material discussed in lecture and that will appear on the exams even though it is not in the text. Usually by about the third or fourth week of the term I can tell which students will be in A/B/C/F territory for each exam. The tiresome part for me is having to deal with the whiners who think they deserved a better grade. My response to them is always, "I grade very leniently, so if anything, your grade is a rather charitable reflection of the amount effort you put into the course."

      Being someone who has a limited ability to multi-task, and recognizing my own limits, I can tell you that the vast majority of people that think they can multi-task greatly overestimate their ability. In fact, the younger they are, the more they tend to overestimate how good they are at multitasking.

      • My oldest son's high school has a policy that allows smartphones to come into the building, but they need to be turned off during the school day. If the student takes them out at all during the day to use them, they can be confiscated and then the principal will have a nice chat with the parents about cell phone use in the building.

        (My son actually only has a cheap flip phone because there have also been instances of smartphones being stolen from students. I doubt anyone will want to steal a cheap flip phon

      • by denbesten ( 63853 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @05:10PM (#56375849)

        I teach at the university level (upper level undergraduate course) and I am shocked at the number of students who simply do not show up to class and of those that do show up the number that spend the entire period playing games on their phones or computers.

        A good buddy of mine was a University prof. He, too, allowed students to make their own decisions regarding their effort. The one difference is that he kept attendance (and attentiveness) records, specifically to deal with one scenario. All too often, adult students would bring in their angry parents who had footed the bill for a bad grade from what the student claimed was an "unfair teacher". After getting the adult student's permission to discuss the issue in front of the parent, he was generally able to change the entire discussion simply by showing the attendance records to the parents.

    • If the student can read the book, and get the data from it, why do you care if they pay attention in the lectures? Lectures only exist because "just read the textbook" only work for a small percentage of the population.

      • There's more to being educated than rote memorization and repetition.

        • There's more to being educated than rote memorization and repetition.

          But rote memorization and repetition will take you a long way in formal education!

        • There's more to being educated than rote memorization and repetition.

          Sure, I totally agree. But I don't know how that's address by "lecture on things not in the book" and "ha, you did poorly on your test because you weren't paying attention."

          Maybe if you want to go beyond rote memorization, engage the students in discussions or something. Or are you saying students should be able to opt out of discussions, but listen, and parrot that back on the exam at the end? Seems easier (and more corrective), for th

          • There's more to being educated than rote memorization and repetition.

            Sure, I totally agree. But I don't know how that's address by "lecture on things not in the book" and "ha, you did poorly on your test because you weren't paying attention."

            Are the "lecture" portions of class now just straight lectures? When I was in college (which, granted, was over a decade ago) we often used "lecture" time for relevant discussions, and the instructors would regularly use these discussions to create quiz material. The time was also used to pose critical thinking questions to the class, which you would never get from memorizing facts in a book.

            I have a pretty high expectation of participation.

            • We're not talking about college, we're talking about kids.

              And I was using "lecture" to mean "lecture", because we were talking about cellphones distracting from lectures and teachers not reacting. And it's obvious when people aren't participating in a conversation, and that can be reacted to regardless of the cause.

              For what it's worth, I think lectures should be videos views at home, and class should be used for discussions and helping children And cellphones should be banned. But that's harder, and I'm

              • We're not talking about college, we're talking about kids.

                Oh, right, duh. Guess I got off on a tangent. Basically ignore my last response.

                For what it's worth, I think lectures should be videos views at home, and class should be used for discussions and helping children

                On the one hand, I think that's a much better method of education than the antiquated classroom system currently in use; on the other, I fear that may only serve to further blur the line between "work life" and "home life," and personally I woudn't want to be the one to risk ruining a childhood by making it school-time, all the time.

                And cellphones should be banned. But that's harder, and I'm not sure all the teachers we have are up to it.

                Especially considering that more and more teachers are members of the "can't do anything without

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Discuss a topic that's not "in the book." Test students on it.

      Make fake Wikipedia page first and see how many people answer with bogus material.

  • by foradoxium ( 2446368 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:24PM (#56374169)

    it'd be nice for my kid to be able to use a backpack to carry her schoolwork in. They aren't even allowed clear backpacks.

    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      Have you calculated the number of expected spills per year and the time cost of recovering from each spill? If so, have you raised this issue with school administration? If so, what was the administrator's reply?

    • by zenbi ( 3530707 )
      I remember my school banning backpacks for the aesthetics/cleanliness aspects. Try walking between two rows of tightly packed student desks when the kids have unwieldy backpacks (some with a dozen+ zipper compartments). Maybe they should adopt a Japanese style [google.com] standard sized school bag instead of allowing just any sized backpack.
    • Really? My son's locker is out of his way so he winds up carrying EVERYTHING he needs for the entire day in his backpack. It's a heavy monstrosity and I don't see how he carries it every day without hurting his back.

      • Correct. The school has the kids carry one HUGE binder containing spiral notebooks for every class. It's infuriating, we're trying to find a way to move her to a different school next year. Event to the point where I'm going to fill out a form asking permission to move her out of district.

  • Can I get my kid's phone usage records, and if I see any text messages or network activity on his phone during school hours, he gets punished?

    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      Why would you punish your kid for finding a non-disruptive way to pass the time while sitting quietly between when the teacher ends the lecture and the bell?

  • by Hasaf ( 3744357 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:48PM (#56374319)

    As a teacher, I can tell that the main reason for relaxing the cell phone bans is the parents demanding it. the research is in, cell phones detract from learning.

    The following is part of a letter I sent to my building administrator on this topic. The first point, that is cut out, but mentioned, had to do with my student to robot ratio.

    The second is more generalized, yet it remains a problem. It is the cell phones in the school.

    The research done by the London School of Economics showed that the benefit to a cell phone ban was the equivalent to an extra week of instruction. However, even more relevant to our district, is that the gain was driven by low income students. they showed an improvement equal to receiving three extra weeks of instruction per year.

    Simply telling the students to put the phones is not enough. A study by the University of Chicago determined that the negative effects of the cell phone are present when the phone is in close proximity, such as in a backpack. When in close proximity, the addictive nature of the phone continues to interfere with the cognitive process.

    Based on research, a simple ban of cell phones could improve the students education. In cases where the parent believes that their child needs a phone, and will not be swayed by research, a area of small lock boxes in the office would allow the students to secure their phones at the beginning of the day.

    These are two proposals that would increase student engagement and learning.

    Here I include summaries and abstracts from recent cell phone research:
      a couple of studies that have been completed in an attempt to assess the impact the impact of having cell-phones in school on education.

    The first is a study completed by the London School of Economics. Here is the abstract:

    This paper investigates the impact of schools banning mobile phones on student test scores. By surveying schools in four English cities regarding their mobile phone policies and combining it with administrative data, we find that student performance in high stakes exams significantly increases post ban. We use a difference in differences (DID) strategy, exploiting variations in schools’ autonomous decisions to ban these devices, conditioning on a range of student characteristics and prior achievement. Our results indicate that these increases in performance are driven by the lowest achieving students. This suggests that restricting mobile phone use can be a low-cost policy to reduce educational inequalities.
    Source: http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/down... [lse.ac.uk]

    A more readable summary is provided by CNN:
    The authors looked at how phone policies at 91 schools in England have changed since 2001, and compared that data with results achieved in national exams taken at the age of 16. The study covered 130,000 pupils.
    It found that following a ban on phone use, the schools' test scores improved by 6.4%. The impact on underachieving students was much more significant -- their average test scores rose by 14%.
    Source: http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/1... [cnn.com]

    This study was supported by a recent study conducted by the University of Chicago. Further, they determined that the negative effect of the cell-phone were present even if the cell-phone is put away, such as in a backpack. From the Abstract:
    Results from two experiments indicate that even when people are successful at maintaining sustained attention—as when avoiding the temptation to check their phones—the mere presence of these devices reduces available cognitive capacity.
    Source: http://www.journals.uchicago.e... [uchicago.edu]

    • That is interesting that people are distracted from just knowing the phone is nearby. I can only relate to an extent. I'm rarely without my phone since I bought my first one but I believe I'm not terribly distracted by it's presence. I mean that I want to make sure it's kept safe and secure, it's a valuable item, but I'm not thinking that I need to touch it constantly.

      I remember putting my phone in my carry-on bag while flying, so I didn't have the bulky item in my pocket while folded up into a little ba

      • by Hasaf ( 3744357 )

        A lot of the kids wear wrist watches. G-Shock watches are very popular.

        Unfortunately I lost the watch I had in the Army. I searched all over for it too. It's gone.

    • *applause

      I wonder if it would help to just tell parents flat out that they are advocating less education in exchange for a trivial boost to convenience.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @01:54PM (#56374359)
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    • it's a complete different type of blatant disrespect

      No. It really isn't. Self-justifying it as "kids these days" doesn't make them any worse or what you did any better. Whether sending someone an SMS or a piece of folded paper, whether you're doodling or googling, in both cases the same result is achieved in the same level of disrespect.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    "they are bending to the pressure of parents who want to be able to reach their kids." ...during school hours. If they need to reach their kids during school THEN THEY SHOULD CALL THE FUCKING OFFICE, the way it has always been.

    • "they are bending to the pressure of parents who want to be able to reach their kids." ...during school hours. If they need to reach their kids during school THEN THEY SHOULD CALL THE FUCKING OFFICE, the way it has always been.

      Learn to laugh this off and don't worry. When entitled parents raise dumb ass kids who hold the digitally-retarded attention span of a rabid squirrel, they'll reap their helicopter parenting rewards in spades by warehousing those "kids" well into their 20s and 30s.

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @02:02PM (#56374423)
    At the 90% of schools that "block" social media, I'd say around 90% of the students use a VPN to punch through that noise. I found this out after I found one of my kids, who resisted programs like "Hour of Code" and wouldn't even help his old man maintain the home network, had a system of two VPNs and related AV on his phone to get around his schools' bans on SnapChat and the like. Frankly, I was impressed.
  • I remember years ago I worked at a place that didn't allow cameras on the property. Cameras in phones were just getting popular at the time. My phone was getting old and unreliable and so I went shopping for a phone without a camera. The guy at the store seemed very confused at this request. We looked through their catalog of phones and I was able to find something suitable, which I bought.

    While we were looking for a phone without a camera the sales droid suggested I buy a nicer phone and just punch out the camera lens to render the camera inoperable, so I could find a nicer phone and yet still comply with my employer's demands. I thought the guy was insane to suggest such a thing. How would my employer know the camera was truly inoperable unless there was obvious damage to the phone? In which case I'd have a brand new phone that was intentionally broken. How would I explain this if I ever needed a repair later? "No, I want the phone fixed BUT NOT THE CAMERA IN IT!" How would I know that no other damage was done, and if I did then we are back to fixing the phone but still leaving obvious damage to the camera function.

    Weeks after I got my camera-less phone they lifted the ban on phones with cameras. Too many people complained and the company gave in. They just said that getting caught taking a photo on the premises could be grounds for dismissal. That was of course impossible to enforce. They could certainly walk someone out the door for taking pictures of something and posting it on the internet but that's closing the barn door after the horses left.

    I later went back to university and had one instructor say during the first class period that anyone using an electronic device during class would be marked as absent that day. That's not just a ban on devices for quizzes and tests but during class discussion. That was the first and last time I saw that happen as every class since would have nearly every student with a laptop or electronic tablet for taking notes, or whatever. Of course some people were just goofing off, like one guy I saw that was watching a soccer game in the middle of class. It's not like people didn't goof off in class before electronics, I remember doing crossword puzzles during lectures.

    I remember when pagers were a thing and schools wanted to ban those. They gave up on banning pagers a long time ago too, and not just because they fell out of use. Parents that were able to afford a two-way pager for their kids can have a lot of influence on the schools.

    Everything old is new again. History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

  • In my school days the parents would call the office and the secretary would either take a message or the student would located in class and sent to the office to make or receive a call. I can recall hearing the school intercom calling people to the office or the in house system ringing in the class the student was supposed to be requesting the teacher send the student to the office.

    • That's the way things still are in my oldest son's high school. During the school day, you need to call the office to get in touch with a student. After school activities allow cell phones to be used, but during the school day they have to be put away and silenced.

  • periodically having to stand in class because there were 30 seats and 40 students did. And no, I'm not joking. And this was in one of the better school districts in my area.
  • Simply jam cell frequencies in the school except maybe at certain times of the day.

    Second install cell phone towers on school property; increases the number of ways you can spy on the kids and over parent them.

    Third make the teens (and school employees) buy special school cell phones which operate on a different frequency and whose software you can lock down.

    The cost would be approximately $150 per child. Alternatively you could buy tablets instead of phones for actual school use (ebooks and digital homewor

    • Simply jam cell frequencies in the school except maybe at certain times of the day.

      There is federal law [fcc.gov] prohibiting this "simple" solution.

      Calls and messages from parents could be allowed and texts between students could be limited and monitored.

      This, too is illegal [wikipedia.org] throughout most of the world without notifying at least one and sometimes both parties to the conversation.

      Requiring phone calls to students to go through the office is a pretty good solution. The office is much better prepared to minimize disruption in the classroom and is able to support a true emergency (e.g. death of a family member) with immediate emotional support / counseling to the student or the classroom.

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