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YouTube Videos From Some High-Profile Channels Have Disappeared (venturebeat.com) 111

Late last week, YouTube videos from several high-profile channels began to mysteriously disappear, puzzling both the owners of those channels and viewers. Some of these channels include MIT Open Courseware, Blender Foundation, Jamendo Music, India's Press Information Bureau, soccer club Sparta Praha, and England Rugby. In a statement, MIT Open Courseware said, "You may have noticed that we are having some trouble with our videos! Please stand by. The elves are working around the clock to fix the issue. There is still a ton of content you can use on MIT OCW's website that doesn't have video. Hang in there folks!" Ton Roosendaal, the chairman of Blender Foundation, has been tweeting his frustration at YouTube. The issue, which per Roosendaal YouTube is aware of, is yet to be resolved at the time of publication.

TorrentFreak, a news website which covers piracy and copyright issues, speculates that YouTube's piracy filters could be the bottleneck here.

YouTube has addressed the issue, says it is working to bring the videos back online.
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YouTube Videos From Some High-Profile Channels Have Disappeared

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    ...hard

    • by Chris Katko ( 2923353 ) on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:34PM (#56805218)

      I LOVE that Slashdotters were all like "omg, they're a private company. And these are EXTREMIST channels! WHO CARES!" and now it finally hits channels they care about and they're like "omg, googggles is so evil."

      Fuckin' hypocrite, overload.

      • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

        I LOVE that Slashdotters were all like "omg, they're a private company. And these are EXTREMIST channels! WHO CARES!" and now it finally hits channels they care about and they're like "omg, googggles is so evil."

        Fuckin' hypocrite, overload.

        You might have a point, but reading the thread you choose to reply to I don't see anything that supports your case.

        When you use such strong language please try to provide relevant information to back your case, it helps with the discussion.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    but YouTube pulled it!

  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:39PM (#56804768)

    I am going to figure YouTube with its faults isn't trying to be crazy evil. Just may have some problems on Servers used for High Volume traffic.

    • by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:49PM (#56804830) Journal
      Or maybe it really is the piracy filters. With increasingly onerous laws around copyright and free speech, where simply responding to a takedown notice doesn't cut it any more, and where the consequences of non-compliance get more serious as well, I can imagine that companies like Google are cranking the criteria on their automatic filters up a notch or two.
      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:07PM (#56804978)

        Or more likely SJWs complained about a video in the channel. I didn't realize you could see a gun store in the background of one of my videos so it was correctly deleted. I blurred the name of the store and reuploaded, but people still complained about it so much that I had my channel banned. Screw YouTube.

        • by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Monday June 18, 2018 @04:54PM (#56805386)
          I'll totally believe that YouTube has an agenda that is pushes, but I really need to see some proof of what you're claiming. YouTube has all manner of videos containing people discussing, showing, and actively using all manner of firearms and ammunition so I'm skeptical that a video would be deleted merely for having a gun store in the background of a video.
          • Look on FaceBook for the Youtubers Union page. Lots of detail there.
          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            Also, if we are talking about false flagging, it has to be pointed out that many progressive channels are affected too. Also, 4chan users openly discuss it so it's not even like we have to speculate that it is happening.

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        • Well, as long as we also ban videos with all those other dangerous items! Like beer. Or cars, Or cigarettes. Or table saws. Or hammers. Or fried foods. Or nuts. Or surfing. Or stairs. Or pools. Or...
        • by Trogre ( 513942 )

          ...correctly deleted?

        • Or more likely SJWs complained about a video in the channel. I didn't realize you could see a gun store in the background of one of my videos so it was correctly deleted. I blurred the name of the store and reuploaded, but people still complained about it so much that I had my channel banned. Screw YouTube.

          What do you mean, "correctly deleted"? Is it really against their TOS to show a gun store?

      • by haruchai ( 17472 )

        At one time, a (monetized?) YouTube channel had to be linked with a Google Plus account.
        I wonder if the problem isn't with something having gone wrong on the Google side & not with YouTube.
        If so, the affected could be restored by unlinking the 2 accounts.

      • Or maybe it really is the piracy filters.

        Going to MIT Playlists, and running something.

        This video contains content from MIT. It is not available in your country.
        How We Teach: MIT 8.03SC Physics III: Vibrations and Waves, Fall 2016
        MIT OpenCourseWare
        5 / 11

        Yeah, like a few messages above: the (DRM-allow) servers are overloaded. Kinda like Day 1 on a REALLY popular game when the servers won't actually let you play your game.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I'm going to bet it's the automated claim/takedown system. Again.

      Bad actors are way to good at gaming it. With some bots (Or a hired out farm of workers) you can copy and then file claims against the content's original creators. It's also easy to issue false take downs for content you don't like.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Nope. They sent a contract to the Blender Foundation and they are forcing them to allow monetization fo their videos (They don't want to meonetize, since they believe that shouldn't take money for this, info should be free).
      The link:

      https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blender-videos-worldwide/

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:43PM (#56804788)
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    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by DogDude ( 805747 )
      I'd be more concerned about my kids running into Richard Spencer videos than horror movies. Horror movies are obviously, not real. Nazis, unfortunately, still are very much real.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        I'd be more concerned about my kids running into Richard Spencer videos than horror movies. Horror movies are obviously, not real. Nazis, unfortunately, still are very much real.

        Nazis are no more real than your horror movies. They became extinct at the end of WWII. They are as real as the social misfits who dress in black and claim they are vampires and must feed on blood. Do you have your kids wear garlic around their necks to ward off vampires? Do you worry about your kids seeing Wiccans casting spells over you and ruining your crops or poisoning your wells? Grow up. These are LARPers and small potatoes losers who have no purpose in life and only the power that people like

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by ScentCone ( 795499 )

        Nazis, unfortunately, still are very much real.

        Well, sure, in a pathetic-idiots-dressing-up-like-Halloween flavor, yes. In terms of being an actual political party with real influence over people's lives? Not so much. Mind you, it is concerning that people using the Nazi Brown Shirt tactics and world view (Antifa) are happy to put on black outfits and beat people bloody in order to silence them at public gatherings. That sort of wannabe-Nazi-ism, where they proudly use violence to shut down public discourse, is troubling. But only because academics enc

        • Well, sure, in a pathetic-idiots-dressing-up-like-Halloween flavor, yes. In terms of being an actual political party with real influence over people's lives?

          The same could be said about the actual Nazi party cica 1920. It is important to pay attention to the people who you think have no hope in hell in influencing anything.

          While this is an incidental comparison rather than a purposeful one, who many people predicted that a nonsensical spraytan accident with bad hair implants would become president of America? Most of the country laughed at him too considering him as a pathetic idiot with no chance of actually influencing anyone's life, right until November 9th.

          • And everything that you're complaining about happened entirely in keeping with the constitution's process of choosing an executive, and we dodged the bullet of having instead a sociopathic liar made rich by selling access while she and her husband previously had the job and with people in the DoJ and FBI dead set on letting her get away with a series of crimes in order to regain political power.
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        • So stupid. The worry isn't that the video will turn a kid into a Nazi. It is the worry that exposing children to hate and idiocy will cause them mental anguish. It bothers me as an adult that someone as stupid as a Nazi exists, you can only imagine the effect it has on normal children and normal adults (obviously not including you)
      • Are you troubled by delusions of National Socialism? Do you see Nazis everywhere? Is there a Nazi under your bed right now? You may be suffering from Nazis Are Everywhere Syndrome (NAES).

        At last there is help! Try new Nazinol - scientifically proven to treat NAES. In some cases Nazinol treatment may even restore a patient's ability to see more than one side of political issues.

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    • by reanjr ( 588767 ) on Monday June 18, 2018 @03:48PM (#56804824) Homepage

      Unattended viewing by a child is the problem. Not YT's filtering and categorization. Once you have kids, you really need to fucking grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your family, and not try to blame the world for your own inadequicies as a parent.

      • are you human ? I need to ask that question, because you seem to be from alpha centauri or something to no remember in your youth pushing boundaries and try to get your hand on the forbidden fruit. That is getting your hand on a stash of porn, getting your hand on video, including violent one, and I pass many others. You think our parent did not have tight hand on us ? Well YUPPEE DOO. Parents cannot be behind their kid 24/7. Even if they could, there is a point at which they must release a little bit of le
        • Yes, kids get into shit. Most of us choose to watch our kids, know their friends' parents, and blame ourselves when there's a failure. You seem to think that YouTube should pick up where you failed as a parent.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        YouTube has shown a willingness to identify, qualify, categorize, and filter videos.

        This is the slippery slope of Copyright ID. People will want all manner of content removed, for whatever tiny hill they live on.

        There needs to be no filter, or ones that work just for the viewer. There is no happy middle ground.

  • Actually, in YouTube's case there are probably several hands who aren't aware of the other's actions. The advertisement one is busy trying to make sure ads don't show up in certain places, the piracy one is busy doing it's own thing, and the one who used to promote original material hasn't been taking its meds lately. None of them talk with one another to coordinate changes or specifics about what is being changed so who knows. All three could be stepping on top of one another. It's not like YouTube is tell

    • Cry me a river. Companies have like this stuff called management or something, who like get paid a lot of money supposedly because they can sort shit like this out.

      Waaaagh, it's hard! Give me a trophy for turning up!

      Captcha: diversity

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Loading with no videos, not loading at all.

    YT is having real issues.

  • Funny how Jamendo was affected, a site that focuses on distributing open licensed music from independent artists. I was just literally listening to Jamendo a few minutes ago on my phone, they've got some really good stuff.

    • by tepples ( 727027 )

      How does Jamendo make sure that this "open licensed music from independent artists" doesn't contain accidental infringement, comparable to the "My Sweet Lord" case [abbeyrd.net] (Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music)?

      • "accidental infringement"? Good grief. These intellectual monopolists really need to be stomped by the state. Damaging public culture and making the whole world stupider - just so a bunch of dirtbag lawyers and a handful of washed up popstars can maintain their coke habits. Social leaches.

        • Thank you. IMHO there should be no blatant rip-offs but, you know, music is art and inspiration to create it comes from others who do the same. Birds don't plagiarize by copying/modifying bits of bird songs.

      • How does Jamendo make sure that this "open licensed music from independent artists" doesn't contain accidental infringement, comparable to the "My Sweet Lord" case [abbeyrd.net] (Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music)?

        Thanks for sharing that link, I wasn't aware of that case. To answer your question, "to make sure" is seemingly pre-accusing Jamendo of infringement. That's like accusing someone of stealing from a 7-11, simply because it's possible they *may* steal something. Completely baseless, and IMHO Jamendo should not have to put protections in place, spending their own money, for this. The infringing artist should be held liable for copyright infringement, not the owner of the medium in which it is delivered.

        • by tepples ( 727027 )

          To answer your question, "to make sure" is seemingly pre-accusing Jamendo of infringement.

          I hadn't intended it as an accusation against a particular music host. Instead, I blame the way copyright has been applied to hinder rather than "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts".

          IMHO Jamendo should not have to put protections in place, spending their own money, for this.

          The European Legal Affairs Committee (JURI) disagrees with you. See Article 13 of its proposed Copyright Directive [slashdot.org].

          The infringing artist should be held liable for copyright infringement, not the owner of the medium in which it is delivered.

          Agreed. Thus my real question: What steps should an artist take to avoid accidentally infringing?

          • What steps should an artist take to avoid accidentally infringing?

            Well, they could just not make music... but seriously, that's kind of a silly question. "How to avoid accidentally xyz-ing?"

            I once wrote a bass riff that I thought was awesome and completely original. I realized years later that the same riff was one of Mike Einziger from Incubus made, though it was a guitar riff. I'm huge Incubus fans but I had no idea I actually copied 90% of the riff in coming up with my own. IMHO that shouldn't be punishable. Musicians are influenced by what they hear. You shouldn't dem

          • I had an experience once where I came up with something, or thought I did, then later found out it was the very distinctive hook of a popular song. Apparently I subconsciously remembered it. I'm not a musician, just "came up" with a fee notes one time.

            I wonder if Shazam or something similar would find very similar music? I don't know if Shazam identifies music, as notes, or just the original recording. For example, would Shazam (or something similar) identify the same song (exactly) played on a piano inste

            • by tepples ( 727027 )

              Shazam identifies recordings. SoundHound identifies notes, but I don't think I was able to get it to work last time I tried it.

  • ... I'm carrying my last mod point and, in a very unusual move for me, I was poised to downmod tripe about, apparently, criemer by an AC.

    I got a posting error and, sure enough, the goddam post was taken down.

    If I knew who the fuck did that, I'd hunt them down and upmod them Insightful.

    So, thank you for that.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Google's copyright filters will predict when you die. Upload that rickroll and you will be graverolled.
  • My bet's on a media corporation claiming their content and sending DMCA take-downs. Happens a lot, apparently.
    • You might be right. Whatever happened to the "on pain of perjury" bit?

      I keed, I keed. I don't think that was ever enforced even once, was it?

  • This is cover/testing for the massive internet censorship and blackouts that are coming within the next week or two.

    • by AHuxley ( 892839 )
      Yes political SJW groups removing all they don't like.
      To make the internet push their political world view.
      No history, art, culture, informative movie reviews, no blasphemy, no questioning the results of EU wide politics.
      Just a constant reporting and removal of content.
      People got invited into an open and free public commons to upload their content in the past.
      Only to face SJW censorship as the public commons had no freedom of speech.
    • by Raenex ( 947668 )

      I bet you within the next month there will be no "massive internet censorship and blackouts". Instead, they will just keep turning up the censorship by degrees.

      • Here's something fun to try: Do a Google search for "Google censorship". Then do a Yandex search for the same phrase. Compare the results, and draw your own conclusions.

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