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DARPA Is Researching Quantized Inertia, a Theory Many Think Is Pseudoscience (vice.com) 197

dmoberhaus writes: DARPA just awarded a $1.3 million contract to an international team of researchers to study quantized inertia or QI. This is a controversial theory that many physicists think is pseudoscience, but according to the physicist that created it, QI may be the foundation for light-powered space travel that could open the door for interstellar travel. Motherboard looks at the fact and fiction of QI, its relationship to the 'impossible' EmDrive being developed by NASA and how these physicists are going to create experimental light-powered engines.

Quantized inertia (QI) is an alternative theory of inertia, a property of matter that describes an object's resistance to acceleration. QI was first proposed by University of Plymouth physicist Mike McCulloch in 2007, but it is still considered a fringe theory by many, if not most, physicists today. McCulloch has used the theory to explain galactic rotation speeds without the need for dark matter, but he believes it may one day provide the foundation for launching space vehicles without fuel. The DARPA grant will allow McCulloch and a team of collaborators from Germany and Spain to undertake a series of experiments that will apply QI in a laboratory setting for the first time.

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DARPA Is Researching Quantized Inertia, a Theory Many Think Is Pseudoscience

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  • by Bradmont ( 513167 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @02:44PM (#57412916) Homepage
    So this is the first time I've heard of Quantized Inertia, but isn't this how science works? Somebody proposes a theory, and then they test it to see if it's bunk or not? Has it been tested before? If not, then why label it pseudoscience? Because it disagrees with current theories? Ok, so test it and prove it wrong...
    • I think in general with this type of thing, the fear is that their attempt to explain existing unexplained phenomena by disproving existing proven physical laws will become a giant boondoggle when the money could be better spent chasing more plausible but less obvious explanations that don't defy the entire groundwork of modern science.

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        • by bluefoxlucid ( 723572 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:13PM (#57413152) Homepage Journal

          I'm not so certain. Dark matter never panned out, and the information out there seems well-reasoned [sciencetrends.com].

          This looks like a new model, more like fringe science: might be bullshit, might be legitimate, but appears to be based in something that makes sense of things that don't make sense right now. It uses existing theories to suggest new behaviors within the framework of those theories.

          By contrast, dark matter looks at the same problem--centrifugal forces should overcome the gravity of galaxies and hurl their stars out into space, but don't--and suggests that there's a magical, undiscovered form of matter which we can't measure, accounting for 85% of all mass and 25% of all energy in the universe. This creates new gravity (which we can't quite measure, apparently) so the universe doesn't break apart. We can't see it, we can't find it, we can't interact with it, but it's there because things happen that shouldn't happen.

          Dark matter sounds a lot like the invisible ether medium that carries light. QI sounds like an insight about applying existing theories in ways that their frameworks suggest would work.

          Now I am not a quantum physicist, so how am I to determine which of these is correct and which is coke-fueled magical thinking?

          • Now I am not a quantum physicist, so how am I to determine which of these is correct and which is coke-fueled magical thinking?

            This is quantum question, so both cats are correct and coke-fueled at the same time when one of them opens up the box where you are inside.

            That said, the pursuit of wacky theories often leads to the discovery of unintentional, very interesting other things.

            So let's let them have a go with Quantum Inertia in their lab . . . as long as the Earth doesn't slip a disc in the process.

            • Coke-fueled cats with boxes are NOT an ideal universe...
              I uhh, heard from a friend...

              Please don't encourage this behavior..

          • by jd ( 1658 ) <imipak AT yahoo DOT com> on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @04:10PM (#57413622) Homepage Journal

            Prediction is the only valid form of science.

          • Dark matter never panned out, and the information out there seems well-reasoned [sciencetrends.com].

            Dark matter never panned out?

            Sort of like how "evolution never panned out"?

            Dark matter has piled up over a dozen different pieces of observational evidence over the years that have been been consistent with each other. Just read the Wikipedia page, it summarizes the different types of evidence that have been uncovered, and has lots of links to the original research.

            The McCulloch-written press release (yes, that is what it is) you link to may indeed "seem well-reasoned"*, but only if you aren't familiar with

            • by Jane Q. Public ( 1010737 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @08:21PM (#57414916)
              But the recent detection of heavy neutrinos (likely "s-tau" or stau) coming from inside the earth has been suggested might lead to either an explanation of "dark matter" or perhaps to a new, alternative hypothesis.

              The problem with dark matter is that it would be preferable to have an answer that wasn't such a gross violation of Occam's Razor, which, as you probably recall, says the the correct answer is likely to be the one which makes the least assumptions (or, alternatively, requires the "least multiplication of entities").

              Dark matter is an "external entity" brought in to explain the phenomenon, outside of otherwise understood physics.

              Occam's Razor is not a physical principle of course. Or a universal law. It's more about falsifiability. It's pretty damned hard to falsify dark matter because at present it's pretty damned hard to devise any experiments which could. Because it's an entity that is external to our known physical framework.

              And we prefer falsifiable science to unfalsifiable.

              The point being: it's possible that these neutrinos point to a pathway to explain dark matter in terms of already-understood quantum physics, without having to introduce some kind of "ghost" particle.

              It's also possible that McCulloch's theory could be an alternate explanation. But either of those might be "preferable", in a philosophical and falsifiability sense, to dark matter, and would likely "upset the applecart" less.
              • Correction: "tau lepton" not "tau neutrino".
              • The problem with dark matter is that it would be preferable to have an answer that wasn't such a gross violation of Occam's Razor,

                How does dark matter violate Occams Razor? Its a simple theory that explains existing data very well, and we're lacking alternatives that , unlike Dark matter, don't violate well established physics theory.

                • It "multiplies entities". It brings in a heretofore unknown externality to explain something that "should be" explainable by more conventional physics.

                  I'm not saying it's wrong. Though there is some evidence it is.

                  I prefer a wait-and-see approach.
          • . Dark matter never panned out

            Theres a *lot* of evidence for Dark Matter. Physics just doesn't work without it. Its panned out in that we're 90% sure its there. The problem is finding the stuff.

        • by taylorius ( 221419 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:19PM (#57413228) Homepage

          This IS real science. A theory + experiments to disprove (or not) that theory.

        • by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @04:24PM (#57413738)
          Why is it a shame? Let's suppose, for example, that this is completely bunk and doesn't pan out. It appears that the people who are receiving the funding are using it to actually put their theories to the test. Assuming they're real scientists and not grifters, then after running their tests and finding that their theories do not work, they would devote their time to studying something else. You can't know whether or not some hypothesis is false until it has been tested. If it only takes a little over a million dollars to put this idea to rest, that's quite inexpensive compared to a lot of physics research.

          You're acting as though you've got a perfect oracle that has given you the correct answer in advance. The theory might seem strange or unlikely, but the universe is a strange and unlikely place. Physics is rife with discovers that made no sense based on our existing understanding of the universe.
          • by jythie ( 914043 )
            McCulloch, unfortunately, is more grifter than scientist. He is a pretty well known figure in the conspiracy theory and pseudoscience crowd. He is really good at sounding convincing to non-domain experts, and uses suspicion and other social tools to turn people against anyone who knows better.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        $1.3M when the government spends about $7M per minute is not a lot. About twelve seconds worth. It took me longer than that to type this message on my phone. Compared to other things we spend money on, it's worth it to find out.

      • It's possible that this could be a step forward, you know. Just because dark matter / string theory et. al. have a lot of resources behind them in 2018, it doesn't mean they are the best explanation of the universe we can ever hope to have.

      • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:48PM (#57413456)

        their attempt to explain existing unexplained phenomena by disproving existing proven physical laws will become a giant boondoggle

        That's not how any of this works; and never should we be concerned about science that will challenge laws ---
        disproving or challenging physical laws are the mark of advancement in the basic science.... physical laws are very well known to work and ultimately won't be "destroyed"
        making a boondoggle, but the explanation of a physical law can change, and corrections can be required
        for some situations. For example, General Relativity fundamentally changed our view of what Gravity is
        (Curvature of space-time, not a force), and opened up a
        huge world we were missing before; technically by invalidating Newton's Laws of motion in the process.

        But despite that, Newton's Laws are frequently used; work fine in the vast majority of situations, and we
        understand where they don't, and which physical model to use instead when they don't.

        • (Curvature of space-time, not a force),
          It is nevertheless still a force, transmitted by (hypothetical) gravitons.

      • Wow ... and how the funk do one decide which research project is more likely to succeede?

        Did you actually look at the costs? That research costs peanuts. I rather fund 100 projects for a million each, and 50% or even 90% are bollocks than funding 2 projects 50 million each, and one or both are bollocks.

        Your idea how science works or research is done might differ ...

    • It's exactly how science works. As soon as commonly held science fact is disproven, then it resets things and the scientific method starts all over again. That makes some comfortable people, uncomfortable.

    • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:39PM (#57413396)

      You are correct.... pseudoscience in this case is a pejorative --- they're calling it pseudo to try and make people think of it like Astrology or Tarot Reading pseudoscience, Not because it isn't science, not because it can't be tested --- not because those theorizing it don't intend for it to be tested, but simply because they're in the group of physicists who has some groupthink, satisfied in what their theories look like so far, and they think this relatively new theory must be wrong --- the physicists are proud of this thing they've contrived that would no longer be necessary.

      The article [vice.com] says it all:

      Against claims that he is theorizing about pseudoscience, McCulloch argues that it is the physicists invoking dark matter who “have been on the slide into pseudoscience for decades” and that “the only reason the dark matterist haven’t noticed is they are all happily going down together, so self-correction has become impossible.” He points to 17 papers in which he uses QI to make accurate predictions without the need for constant adjustment that are often found in theories of dark matter.

    • by commodore64_love ( 1445365 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @04:07PM (#57413612) Journal

      > Because it disagrees with current theories?

      That's usually how it works. Current scientists have a lot of time & money & career goals invested in current theories, so they resist the new theories. In the late 1800s scientists fought long-and hard to reject the theory that space was a vacuum (and light had properties of a particle). They kept insisting that space had an "ether" like liquid that allowed light WAVES to propagate, and labeled the vacuum/particle theory to be nonsense.

      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        Actually, once the equipment got good enough to measure the ether and didn't find it, it went away. Sure there was a period of measuring and remeasuring when it was observed the speed of light was the same in all directions, which was unexpected, but once it was established, ether went away.

    • by Potor ( 658520 )

      I don't think that this is quite how science works.

      Theories are not proposed; hypothoses are.

      Thus, in general, theories are not in question, but they can always be improved through further observation. Of course, paradigm shifts overturn theories, but such instances are rare.

    • Quarantined Inertia contradicts the "Equivalence principle" a basic postulate of Einstein's "General theory of relativity," one of the most tested theories in physics.

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    • by thePsychologist ( 1062886 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @05:53PM (#57414158) Journal

      It's not labeled pseudoscience because it disagrees with current science. It's called that because it is poorly formulated and does not make precise predictions. If you actually look at the arXiv papers, the derivations are a mess and the figures are blurry. There is very little careful examination of anything in them at all.

      It is also easy to derive consequences and new ideas from well-formed theories, even theoretical ones. If you actually write something that makes sense, other scientists will usually jump all over it and write more theoretical papers. This guy's papers have been cited very few times by anyone but himself. That's another sign he's a crank.

      That doesn't mean everything in them is nonsense, but for pete's sakes if you're going to present a radically new theory, make sure you pay extreme care to the derivations and details. That is, make it understandable to others in similar fields.

      Speaking for the public, it is a huge waste of money to invest in testing papers like this, especially at this level of funding. I have seen hundreds of them, and none of them has ever turned out to be correct.

      • Speaking for the public, it is a huge waste of money to invest in testing papers like this, especially at this level of funding. I have seen hundreds of them, and none of them has ever turned out to be correct.
        Which part of "DARPA is investing 1.3 million" did you not get?

        First of all: DARPA has much more credibility than you.
        Secondly: 1.3 million is a lot of money for a lay man. It is peanuts if you consider that the fund 5 people for about 2 years to do the research.
        Thirdly: for funk sake, it is not YOUR

    • by jythie ( 914043 )
      That is how science works, but that does not mean anyone who proposes a theory is doing it right. McCulloch is rather infamous, and is really more interested in expanding his cult of personality among conspiracy theorists than actually testing his ideas. QI produces the wrong answers pretty much across the board, and only produces the 'right' answers in a narrow range of situations that allow devices that do not work to magically function, if only someone would pay for more 'testing'.
  • by plague911 ( 1292006 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @02:47PM (#57412932)
    This is not to say we would be dropping loads of money on it, but $1.3 million is hardly that. DARPA is known for spending money on some wild ideas, but it is not known for just tossing money away. There is a key difference. If DARPA thinks there is a worth while shot that this research can lead to something value then good on them for taking a risk.
    • by Solandri ( 704621 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:24PM (#57413276)
      Yeah. Relativity would've been a fringe theory to anyone who believed in classic Newtonian physics at the turn of the 20th century. Relativity was given consideration because it provided an explanation for some of the observed weirdness which Newtonian physics didn't (Michelson-Morley, orbit of Mercury). If this was just some guy advocating a theory out of the blue, then I'd be suspect of DARPA funding him. But if his theory can explain galactic rotation without using dark matter, then I think it's definitely worth investigating.

      The situation in cosmology is similar to pre-Relativity right now - we're seeing something which doesn't make sense using the laws of physics we know of. Instead of making the mistake of ignoring opportunity cost [investopedia.com] and assuming the most popular theory is correct, think of it this way. We know galaxies can't rotate as we see them rotating using classical celestial mechanics and observed mass. So we've got two competing theories to explain the deviation. Dark Matter, where 85% of the mass in the known universe is stuff we've never seen nor detected and have no idea what it is - basically adding a fudge factor to make our observations fit our understanding of physics. Or this guy's quantized inertia theory. Denying him the funding simply because his theory is fringe is nothing more than blind faith in the dark matter theory being correct.

      Even if he turns out to be wrong, $1.3 million is not much in the grand scheme of these things. The DoD and DARPA threw a lot more money at psychic phenomenon during the Cold War simply because the Soviets were also researching it, and they couldn't take the chance that there might actually be something to it which the Soviets might discover first Because we learn from history books which only outline what was investigated, most people wrongly assume there are only two possible outcomes here:
      • 1. A theory was correct and was investigated.
      • 2. A theory was incorrect, and we wasted money investigating it.

      There are actually four possible outcomes here:

      • 1. A theory was correct and was investigated.
      • 2. A theory was incorrect, but was investigated.
      • 3. A theory was correct, but was not investigated.
      • 4. A theory was incorrect, and was not investigated.

      Like throwing darts, the vast majority of research will fall into the second outcome - investigated and turns out to be wrong. The few shining gems of science (first outcome) are the wheat sifted out of all the chaff via this process. In addition, outcomes two and three and inextricably linked - the less you have of the second, the more you'll get of the third, and vice versa. So decreasing funding for theories which will probably turn out to be incorrect, will increase the number of correct theories we never learn because they were never investigated (throwing the baby out with the bathwater). And trying prevent missing correct theories because we never investigated them, will inevitably lead to more incorrect theories being investigated (casting a wider net will result in catching more trash fish).

      • Relativity had been predicted by maths for 50 years at that point.

        Nobody thought it fringe because it brought physics in line with maths. You no longer needed some strange exceptionalism.

      • I'm guessing when you picked "relativity" as your example you didn't realize that the "general theory of relativity" is the theory which quarantined inertia contradicts.

        However its major weaknesses is that the transition point where Newtonian dynamics breaks down has to be “tuned” to fit observational data without giving a proper explanation of the adjustment. A good mathematician can tweak almost any theory to match observational data

      • Yeah. Relativity would've been a fringe theory to anyone who believed in classic Newtonian physics at the turn of the 20th century. Relativity was given consideration because it provided an explanation for some of the observed weirdness which Newtonian physics didn't (Michelson-Morley, orbit of Mercury). If this was just some guy advocating a theory out of the blue, then I'd be suspect of DARPA funding him. But if his theory can explain galactic rotation without using dark matter, then I think it's definitely worth investigating.

        Sure. Let's investigate it. However, don't get any hopes up. Besides galactic rotation, this also needs to explain observed gravitational lensing (and lack of it in certain cases), observed cosmic background radiation, and several other directions that have come to point to dark matter. 70 years ago, this would have been a really intriguing experiment, and it was since this is just a modified MOND theory. However, now it's up against 70 years of testing and experiments which it will have to explain. End res

        • this also needs to explain observed gravitational lensing (and lack of it in certain cases), observed cosmic background radiation, and several other directions that have come to point to dark matter.
          No it has not.
          Why should it?

          It has nothing to do with it ...

          What is next? It should predict global warming? Nuclear decay?

          Which part of quantified inertia did yo not get? What has inertia to do with cosmic background radiation? Hae? Or gravity lensing?

          • by dryeo ( 100693 )

            How about explaining the couple of galaxies that don't seem to contain any dark matter and rotate the expected way, using relativity.

      • by swell ( 195815 )
        " 1. A theory was correct and was investigated. "

        When is a theory correct?

        We have tested relativity for a long time. Can we say now that it is correct? We have major consensus that we are in a period of man-made global warming. Can we say that theory is correct? At what point can we sit back, light a cigar, and agree that a theory is correct?

        There may be exceptions, but generally speaking, only God can say whether a theory is correct. The best we can do is say that a theory is 'generally accepted' by those
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Isn't everything else quantised?
    • Obviously, when you think about it, it should be.
      But many options of stuff that is quantisized, e.g. gravity, is not proven yet.

      The last thing I remember that was proven quantisized was the hall effect, which lead to the acceptance that magnetic fields are quantisized.

  • by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @02:55PM (#57413006)

    I couldn't begin to comment on whether it is science or pseudoscience with any authority. However, I can only hope that if it is pseudoscience that they might discover something useful by accident whilst studying it.

    I'm sure the ideas of computers and self driving cars were considered pseudoscience or science fiction once upon a time.

  • DARPA is hedging (Score:5, Insightful)

    by crgrace ( 220738 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @02:57PM (#57413018)

    DARPA is well known for its high-risk, high-reward approach to innovation. I'm sure the program manager involved knows full well that QI probably doesn't exist, but he or she has enough esteem for the investigators it was determined a good investment, just in case it turns out to be real.

    They could also be offering some life support to a research group they want to keep together, but doesn't have a clear project. This is done all the time.

    • by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:23PM (#57413270)
      yep! didn't DARPA invest money in to that crazy interwebs thingy that Al Gore invented! We all know how that turned out.

      Just my 2 cents ;)
    • Knowing the result beforehand tends to devalue the experiment.

      If you want results, you base your theories on observation, not your observations on theory.

      DARPA understands this, at least as well as any militarist agency can. They don't want confirmation bias, they want results. Only way to get them is by looking.

      Are they looking for positive results? They shouldn't be looking for anything, they should be comparing observation with prediction. All results, whether there's a match or not, have major scientifi

  • Because who doesn't like a pseudoscience theory that can quantify the compression ratio of angels dancing on the head of a tulip as it accelerates towards light speed?

    • String theory is falsifiable. It is important that it be tested.

      QI is falsifiable and now will be tested.

      Skepticism is vital in the process of falsification.

      Cynicism is a major impediment and humanity would prosper if the useless third of the population was sent in a B Ark to Mars.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    When I read the comments for this story, the fortune cookie at the bottom of the page was:
            "The fundamental principle of science, the definition almost, is this: the sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." -- Richard P. Feynman

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      The fortune cookie I got was: "The clothes have no emperor. -- C.A.R. Hoare, commenting on ADA."

      The Dark Matter adherents are afraid of being left with no clothes; the idea that there is all this invisible unseeable matter taking up most of the universe cannot be tested, but QI and this light engine concept will either work or it won't, making it testable.

  • by little1973 ( 467075 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:28PM (#57413314)

    ...not anymore. The problem with QI is that it is based on Unruh radiation. This Unruh radiation is supposed to replace dark matter and responsible for the peculiar velocities of stars in spiral galaxies.

    Now, here's a problem:
    A precise extragalactic test of General Relativity
    http://science.sciencemag.org/... [sciencemag.org]

    According to this study the rotational velocities of the stars are consistent with the bending of light around the galaxy. That means space-time is curved with the right amount which causes the velocities of the stars.

    So, Unruh radiation cannot be responsible for these velocities since Unruh radiation is light and light cannot "bend" light. Actually, our current understanding is that nothing can "bend" light this way, only space-time curvature. This means there is something there which causes this "extra" space-time curvature (eg. dark matter).

    I do not believe dark matter exists, but it won't be QI which solves these kind of problems.

    • I do not believe dark matter exists, but it won't be QI which solves these kind of problems.

      Why did you want until now to tell us this? If you'd mentioned it to DARPA before they spent the $1.3 million, you could have saved taxpayers a lot of money.

      Next time, please speak up before the money gets spent.

      • arpa/darpa has wasted so much money 1.3 million is a rounding error.
        • arpa/darpa has wasted so much money 1.3 million is a rounding error.

          Can you convince them to send one of those rounding errors my way?

          • As an undergrad I worked on a darpa project where it paid 1m USD for a custom distributed network radio architecture that involved repurposing a failed thermometer radio chip with barely any modifications outside of some custom firmware on a pic microcontroller. Considering it never even worked right, it was something a decent grad student could have done in about four weeks for 1k. I'm not sure how to board the gravy train myself, but it's definitely possible with the right connections.
    • I am confused. Space-time curvature is related to gravity. Why can't a whole big big bunch of "light" exert a gravitational effect the same way a little bit of the slow usual matter does? Energy is energy and has mass.

      Is there something I am missing?

    • by DRJlaw ( 946416 )

      Unruh radiation is light and light cannot "bend" light.

      Physicists studing geons say otherwise.

      Actually, our current understanding is that nothing can "bend" light this way, only space-time curvature.

      You assume that photons cannot cause space-time curvature. You know what they say about when you assume...

  • Physicists said the Em Drive was "Impossible" then NASA tested it and it worked.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/theo... [cnet.com]

    https://www.space.com/40682-em... [space.com]

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Then they tested it again and found it didn't.
      https://www.newscientist.com/article/2169809-impossible-em-drive-doesnt-seem-to-work-after-all/

    • Um, actually we developed EM drives back in the 1950s. I know they don't teach real science history in backwards areas, but they even had entire SF series published about it in Germany and the UK, not just in the USA.

    • Physicists said the Em Drive was "Impossible" then NASA tested it and it worked.

      https://www.cnet.com/news/theo... [cnet.com]

      https://www.space.com/40682-em... [space.com]

      You are using old data. Here: https://www.sciencealert.com/i... [sciencealert.com]

      You can read thrust in any direction you want, perhaps in two opposite directions at the same time. And the amount of energy it takes to get that omnidirectional "thrust" is pretty impressive. Personally, I think it is heating effects, and perhaps the magnetic field of the earth interfering. And that's as good a guess as QI. The EM drive will now live on as youtube videos for the perpetual motion crowd, and the people who believe that you ca

      • It's possible that there are unseen - or at least, so-far-unnoticed - effects at work that might be the result of being so deep in the Earth's, or the Sun's, gravity well. Can we be CERTAIN that things might not work just a little differently at a distance of, say, 1000AU? I think we need to keep at least an open mind about the POSSIBILITY that the warped space we're living in so near the Sun might have at least a slight effect.

  • by jd ( 1658 ) <imipak AT yahoo DOT com> on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @03:48PM (#57413454) Homepage Journal

    Some of the scientists are skeptical, they want evidence. This, too, is the correct approach. Cynicism, which also arises, is not. The difference is that a cynic doesn't care about evidence or models, they're convinced of the outcome in advance.

    Cynicism is the enemy of science. It's actually the enemy of many things, but in this case it is the enemy of science.

    Skepticism is how we distinguish sounding good from being useful. It is essential.

    QI sounds excellent, doesn't involve hyper-invisible particles and offers a simple explanation. But none of those mean it is right. As Fred Hoyle loved to point out, the only valid thing in science is prediction. You must predict and test with an eye to falsifying. Nothing else matters.

    And it must continue to do so. So all of the indirect attempts to study dark matter via hot filaments of regular matter must produce results QI can explain as well or better. If dark matter produces more testable predictions that turn out correct, it is the more useful even if it is actually wrong.

    I am not keen on MOND because, as with dark matter, there are galaxies which don't fit the model. Theories which only apply selectively or at weekends are probably wrong. However, QI has some interesting aspects and should be tested properly rather than cynically dismissed.

  • Don't know how much you can learn about the QI hypothesis from it's name, but it's clear that mass is quantized, and it is sometimes suspected that space is quantized, so if so, you get the "quantized inertia" for free.

    Whether the rest would follow from that is another questions.

  • I was very surprised by this since I've read about the Oceanographer McCullogh before and wasn't impressed.

    I can't find any official source confirming this except perhaps Univ of Plymouth which is where McCullogh works. Is there an official DARPA announcement out there somewhere?

    The only information I can find is from Motherboard (an interview) and forums/McCulloughs twitter. There is some more info here:
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.... [nasaspaceflight.com]
    search for flux_capacitors post about 1/3 down.

    The information seem to

  • H. G. Wells "The First Men in the Moon" comes to mind with gravity field dumpers :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
  • When it comes to gravity, it is odd to call a new theory a pseudo-science, since the main theory has so many shortcomings.

    As summary notes, it does not even manage to explain how galaxies can exist: according to main theory their rotation should expel the matter and dislocate them. Dark matter and dark energy, which has never been observed, is required to keep galaxies confined in the standard model

  • I found an article about ways to verify QI: https://www.nextbigfuture.com/... [nextbigfuture.com] An interesting paragraph is:

    4. The opposite case, for objects coming from deep space into the Solar system, or into galaxies, their acceleration is increasing so they should gain inertial mass by MiHsC and slow down anomalously, just like an inverted Pioneer anomaly, and of the same size (it will appear as though there’s unseen mass at the outer edge of the system).

    It's interesting because just recently I read about detected anomaly in Oumuamua trajectory, which for now was attributed to not observed out-gassing, i.e. out-gassing, which was not seen, but had to happen - not sure though whether the effect would match the one predicted by QI (article didn't provide details about the anomaly).

  • Quantized Inertia is a hypothesis, not a theory. While in general usage, a theory can be a guess or educated guess, in science, a hypothesis is the educated guess. It only becomes a theory after it has been verified repeatedly by experiment, and there is virtually no doubt that the hypothesis is true. Science articles should be careful to use the terms properly.
  • by kenwd0elq ( 985465 ) <kenwd0elq@engineer.com> on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:32PM (#57415620)

    Science fiction author Jerry Pournelle used to advocate that NASA and DARPA should spend 90% of their budgets on routine research following established theories - and spend 10% on "crackpot" theories that might either be utter nonsense or groundbreaking. The "Dean Drive", for example, or the ElectroMagnetic Drive - which NASA _is_ looking at, just because it would be such an enormous leap forward in the unlikely event that it works.

    I think "Quantized Inertia" would fall into that same category; likely nonsense, but it's remotely possibly an enormous leap forward. Or perhaps "Quantized Intertia" is how the EM drive (supposedly) works? It's certainly worth trying. One needs to keep an open mind, conduct thorough experiments with detailed descriptions and HONEST results. Pournelle suggested that 19 our of 20 times, the result would be the expected nonsense, but if even one time out of 20 was successful, it would pay for itself a hundredfold.

  • I follow a fairly heated subforum of nasaspaceflight [emdrives.com] and a bunch of boffins attempting to prove EMDrive (and Quantized Inertia as an explanation). Some of their garage experiments are jaw-dropping in quality (Such as Monomorphic's) . Unfortunately, recent results are mostly negative, or close to "noise level". When you're looking for sub-newton force with high wattage, it's easy to mistake heat / magnetism, flexing of cables as an unknown "force".

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