'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' Negative Buzz Amplified By Russian Trolls, Study Finds (hollywoodreporter.com) 447
bestweasel writes: The Hollywood Reporter highlights an academic paper which finds that half of the criticism aimed at director Rian Johnson over Star Wars: The Last Jedi was politically motivated. From the report: [Researcher Morten Bay's paper] titled Weaponizing The Haters: The Last Jedi and the strategic politicization of pop culture through social media manipulation, examines the online response to the movie that has come to be considered controversial amongst the larger fanbase of the franchise. Bay suggests that reputation may not be earned, and instead "finds evidence of deliberate, organized political influence measures disguised as fan arguments." He continues, "The likely objective of these measures is increasing media coverage of the fandom conflict, thereby adding to and further propagating a narrative of widespread discord and dysfunction in American society. Persuading voters of this narrative remains a strategic goal for the U.S. alt-right movement, as well as the Russian Federation."
The paper analyzes in depth the negative online reaction, which is split into three different camps: those with a political agenda, trolls and what Bay calls "real fantagonists," which he defines as genuine Star Wars fans disappointed in the movie. His findings are fascinating; "Overall, 50.9% of those tweeting negatively [about the movie] was likely politically motivated or not even human," he writes, noting that only 21.9% of tweets analyzed about the movie had been negative in the first place. "A number of these users appear to be Russian trolls," Bay writes of the negative tweets. In response to a tweet announcing the release of the paper, Last Jedi director Rian Johnson shared the tweet, adding, "Looking forward to reading it, but what the top-line describes is consistent with my experience online."
The paper analyzes in depth the negative online reaction, which is split into three different camps: those with a political agenda, trolls and what Bay calls "real fantagonists," which he defines as genuine Star Wars fans disappointed in the movie. His findings are fascinating; "Overall, 50.9% of those tweeting negatively [about the movie] was likely politically motivated or not even human," he writes, noting that only 21.9% of tweets analyzed about the movie had been negative in the first place. "A number of these users appear to be Russian trolls," Bay writes of the negative tweets. In response to a tweet announcing the release of the paper, Last Jedi director Rian Johnson shared the tweet, adding, "Looking forward to reading it, but what the top-line describes is consistent with my experience online."
Yeah, must be the russians (Score:5, Insightful)
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Note it says amplified, not that there wasn't justifiable criticism.
Younger folks loved it (Score:3, Informative)
As for Luke, as last Gen's hero he pretty much had to die. Same as Kenobi. I suppose a much, much better writer could have bridged the gaps, but that's a risky and Herculean task I can't blame Disney, or Ryan Johnson, for not trying.
Oh, and if we could just get
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I'd kill an Ewok for a remake of the X-Wing and Tie-Fighter games.
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Luke can die, like OB1 and Yoda, as the wise old sage, who has evolved to pure 'goodness' of the Jedi, just as he had become at the end of ROTJ.
Luke was (about to) become a kind, old, wise Jedi. So re-visiting Luke in his old age, while cheesy and predictable, would've been best him being like those 2.
Instead they messed with the old hero, also he's straight, white, male, so you know, fuck they better not make him wise / kind / thoughtful / good, hell no.
The Last Jedi is dogshit.
I stopped caring about St
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I watched the original and loved it, and I also liked Last Jedi. It wasn't the crap that so many people claimed it was.
Re:Yeah, must be the russians (Score:4, Informative)
12 year old me in 1977, coming out of the theatre after seeing Star Wars would be shocked to hear it, but the whole thing just has no value any more.
I was shocked at how poor the Last Jedi was, from the lazy, poorly structured plot, to the way it lifted entire scenes from the earlier movies, even using the same scene three times.
Terrible.
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I had the exact same reaction. The people I joined to see the movie, expected a terrible movie and agreed they got it.
This study says things like....
> Approximately one in three negative fans express misogynist, anti-progressive, anti-social justice or conservative views.
Since all the data is from specifically from a few Twitter accounts, this "academic paper" seems to be nothing more than an ironic troll.
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I didn't hate The Last Jedi because of women, or liberals, or racial minorities, but because, despite costing many, many millions of dollars to make, it was just cheap and shoddy.
It killed one of the great memories of my childhood, but I suppose that's just part of life.
I'll get over it.
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The people I joined to see the movie, expected a terrible movie
... and you all saw it anyways. Get a life. And tell those "people" who you joined to get lives too, if you ever see them again and happen to recognize them.
I'll tell you what, when I go out for entertainment, either me or somebody else I'm with is expecting to have a good time. That's the whole reason we're there. Maybe that's the part that was broken, and not anything about the movie?
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Not the fact the movie was shit and just happened to piss all over one if the franchises most beloved characters, totally wasting any opportunity to use Luke Skywalker in any interesting capacity before unceremoniously killing him off.
You almost make me wish I'd seen it.
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Everything Star Wars EU is shit. I don't care if some of it later "officially" became "canon". REAL fans don't even count the special edition edits as canon.
Canon = The original cuts of the first 3 films (maybe including the "A New Hope" title), the Holiday Special, and the various PSAs of the time.
American public is fairly united in its views (Score:3)
For an example just look at the hearing last week.
Unless it's Russians all the way down.
Just do what I did: Don't go to see it (Score:5, Insightful)
Not interested in Disney's fanfic anymore. Made the mistake of seeing The Force Awakens. The plot was just a fan-service rehash of the original Star Wars and Rey was an annoying Mary Sue. So I just stopped giving Disney my money after that. Didn't make a YouTube video bitching about it or anything. I just stopped buying their toys and seeing their movies. Problem solved.
Re:Just do what I did: Don't go to see it (Score:5, Interesting)
Rey is overpowered, definitely, but I didn't really have a huge problem with that. Kylo Ren is way overpowered, too, and way too deserving of the title "Darth Emo", though he was better in The Last Jedi.
That ridiculous Leia doing the Kryptonian sleep-flying back to the ship after getting explosively decompressed, modulo some blast damage from the weapons that tore the bridge apart... What were they thinking?
The utter stupidity of *dropping* bombs *in space*... *were* they thinking? Seems unlikely.
On the whole, I like the actors. But their performances were ill-served by the writing and directing. The whole thing was completely disjointed. It just felt sloppy, beyond the above stupidities. (None of which were the actors' fault.)
"But.... Russians!!" is the last refuge of the compleat idiot.
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The 'dropping bombs' thing made me think 'wait a minute', and then a few seconds later I realized they were just propelled out the bomb bay. Which is how I'd expect bombs to be deployed in space. I think people are unnerved because missiles/rockets/torpedoes are the normal method of explosive delivery in space, in sci-fi.
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I've been referring to Kylo Ren as Douche Vader.
And who the hell is this purple haired twat that just suddenly appeared in the story line as a main character with no backstory or anything? Since it seemed her only purpose was to bonzai the ship into the bad guys, they could have saved the cost of one actress and saved Ackbar for that. Since they were going to kill him off anyway, why not have him volunteer to go down as a most hero instead of an "Oops WTF" death?
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Rey is overpowered, definitely, but I didn't really have a huge problem with that.
No one has a problem with someone being overpowered. People have a problem with the character development which makes them magically solve problems without effort. It creates a story with zero intrigue and a character which is incredibly hollow.
But their performances were ill-served by the writing and directing.
This is the new Starwars in a nutshell. Characters driven by a plot that makes zero sense. Not just developmentally (Mary Sue Rei, or the Leia stupidity) but also who make decisions that make no sense (a small resistance leader withholding critical plan details from
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I lost it when they left the ship to go to Space Monte Carlo and do a side quest... Wait, you mean they can just fucking get on a ship and leave without the Discount Empire noticing? Why don't they all abandon the ship and go to Space Monte Carlo? Maybe find some legit parking so they don't get thrown in jail too. Hide out with the arms manufacturers seeing as how the Discount Empire is unlikely to attack the people that supply them.
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TFA was a masterpiece compared to the pile of trash that is TLJ.
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After nearly 20 years of disappointment I will no longer be partaking in Star Wars, even though that makes me sad I have had enough.
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If there is anything we can't blame them for, we'll just blame global warming instead.
It's really just one thing (Score:5, Interesting)
And you know what? It's working. Not that we needed very much, given how Balkanized we are, but it's like a vial of blood in a shark pool...
Re:It's really just one thing (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, they are.
Now, define "they".
The Russians (Score:2, Insightful)
Re: The Russians (Score:4, Insightful)
"I suppose our ruling class does it too"
Bing, bing, bing - we have a winner!
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Then why would Russia bother. The neo-McCarthyite hysteria wasn't around in the 90's, when Republicans were accusing Bill and Hill of being mass murdering drug lords, nor was it around after 2008 when Teabaggers lost their minds and accused Obama's parents of planting a fake birth announcement almost half a century prior because their son might have become president someday.
Another disphit refrain is that Russia is be
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I look at it kind of like...
If it is Russians, influencing ridiculous things like this is a great way to weaken the response to "it was Russians". Sowing more and more doubt at any mention of them, so that when someone does have something credible, voters will be quick to call that credible person a liar, which will cause further divide.
But, maybe it's not Russians.
Re:Russian Trolls (Score:5, Funny)
Obesity ?
Last straw, Putie! (Score:5, Funny)
Messing with elections is one thing, but messing with Star Wars is going way too far.
Is that a joke research paper? (Score:4, Insightful)
"more than half are bots, trolls/sock puppets or political activists using the debate to propagate political messages supporting..."
Yeah I know, I've been flooded with posts of FeministComicNerd, GenderFluidMovieRanter, and MarySuePenisHater about how Last Jedi is the greatest movie ever and
that Asian chick is important to the story and not at all to pander to Chinese audiences.
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No, it's a Russian troll.
Russia wants us weak (Score:2)
But we are made of sterner stuff than that.
Why? (Score:2)
What possible benefit does Russia gain by spamming bad reviews for a movie?
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What possible benefit does Russia gain by spamming bad reviews for a movie?
Makes their people feel at home on Slashdot.
Apparently the Russians have taste (Score:5, Funny)
because that movie sucked ass.
Right.... (Score:2)
Had nothing to do with Leia flying through space.
I never got The Last Jedi freak out (Score:5)
I really never got The Last Jedi freak out, Sure, there was the admiral with blue hair who for some unexplainable reason left her crew hopeless rather than tell them where they were going. And sure, in a civilization with sentient robots for some reason she needed to piloted a suicide attack against the chasing fleet. And sure, if that attack is so devastating why aren't there weapons that do that?
In the end though, at least the movie wasn't a fucking carbon copy of one of the original trilogy movies. The second it came up they were going on a third fucking Death Star run in The Force Awakens (complete with: "another Death Star?", "No! It's bigger, see...") I have had no use for that movie. What a terrible ending.
Rogue One is still easily the best of the new movies (that scene where the rebel fleet warps in right on top of those two star destroyers!? And a hammer head corvette doing its thing in action!?) but Last Jedi really wasn't that bad. Especially relative to just fucking copying a classic.
Easy to get: lightspeed ram + Luke (Score:2)
Yeah, you hit one one of the prime reasons. Why bother building expensive X-Wings and training expensive X-Wing pilots when you could take any thousand year old personal shuttle that can make lightspeed, put a thousand year old droid in control, and use them to disable/destroy a Star Destroyer. W
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"Yeah, you hit one one of the prime reasons. Why bother building expensive X-Wings and training expensive X-Wing pilots when you could take any thousand year old personal shuttle that can make lightspeed, put a thousand year old droid in control, and use them to disable/destroy a Star Destroyer. Why didn't Alderaan's defensive fleet (they must have had something) all go Kamikaze on the Death Star within a minute of it dropping out of orbit. Why bother building a Death Star when you could load up some ancien
Movie criticism has been tainted (Score:3, Insightful)
The main thing that really bothers me about The Last Jedi, is that all the hate and trolling has managed to pretty much taint any and all actual criticism of the movie. You're now no longer allowed to be critical of anything in the film, without being labeled a misogynist, part of the "toxic masculinity", or whatever the trigger words are these days. Heck, I've even heard that some characters were written in such a way that you'd automatically labeled "part of the problem" if you don't like them.
Do I think the movie had issues? Of course I do. Are there characters I didn't like? Yes. Did I at least somewhat enjoy watching it? Also yes.
But do I think it was a terrible pile of garbage that everyone involved should be ashamed of and harassed endlessly over? Absolutely not.
But I now somehow feel awkward and uncomfortable actually expressing any criticism.
Re:Movie criticism has been tainted (Score:5, Interesting)
> The main thing that really bothers me about The Last Jedi, is that all the hate and trolling has managed to pretty much taint any and all actual criticism of the movie.
Hm. It's almost like that was the intention.
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"But do I think it was a terrible pile of garbage that everyone involved should be ashamed of and harassed endlessly over? Absolutely not."
The chase scene with the ships running out of fuel was ridulous. Like it had been cribbed from a WW2 naval script and nobody asked if it made an iota of sense in space. (And I'm not talking real physics, but it fails to fit even in Star Wars fictional physics.
Then the highest ranking twit in the rebel alliance has to stay on board to steer the last ship because what they
Maybe if you were dropped on the head as a child (Score:2)
Riiight. In the same way that if you questioned Obama's drone strikes or bank bailouts, you were in the same camp as the people who questioned his birth certificate.
Because reasons, because false dichotomies.
Re: Movie criticism has been tainted (Score:2)
"Why would you care if others labeled you as something?"
'Tis the season for witch hunts and purges in Soviet America, comrade.
Discord & Dysfunction (Score:2)
The likely objective of these measures is increasing media coverage of the fandom conflict, thereby adding to and further propagating a narrative of widespread discord and dysfunction in American society. Persuading voters of this narrative remains a strategic goal for the U.S. alt-right movement
Just curious why the alt-right movement would bother creating discord & dysfunction? I'd think every political movement would want to send a narrative of "things are broken, and only we can fix them" and there are always countless examples that already exist, so there's no reason to create new ones.
Re: They're not (Score:3)
C'mon man - everyone knows the economic policies of the Demopublicans and the Republicrats are 99.9% identical.
President Trump is an independent who ran as a Republicrat for expediency. He's obviously not a deep political philosopher or a hardcore economic reformer. But at least he's not openly, brazenly contemptuous of working people.
The idea that voting Demopublican is somehow in the average Joe's best interests is quite silly, because it's so cryingly obviously false. Tepid half-socialists like Sanders a
Not true (Score:2, Interesting)
I don't know any equivalent on the Republican side; e.g. a movement in their party to stop taking corporate cash. Dems also support Net Ne
Re: Not true (Score:2)
My brother, I think you have only the best intentions. But you are terribly, terribly optimistic.
Sooooo bad... (Score:2)
So the opening of TLJ has a serious tone, with the rebels escaping from the surface. A few minutes later a serious live or die attack on the dreadnought is turned into spaceballs. I honestly had to wonder whether I was in the right theater. Then the slow moving bombers drop bombs. No shields. And apparently the dreadnought attracts bombs. WTF?
Basically the entire story is that the entire rebel fleet is reduced to about a dozen people and a single small ship. Oh, and the supreme leader is killed - so the who
Hollywood already pushes its own political agenda! (Score:2)
But, personally my biggest complaints about the movie were just the shear number of times I was yelling at the screen for the characters to do the logical thing. You know, like tell the hot shot renegade and the whole cre
Make a bad movie (Score:2)
The real reviews by fans are shared and linked and show what the bad movie is all about.
Reviews did not make the bad political movie script the way it was.
What good reviews?
1. Write a great script and listen to the fans who will be happy to support a movie they enjoy.
Use the fan base. They really want to write good reviews and tell the world how much they liked a new movie.
A bad
Russia finally found what it's good at (Score:2)
This century is when Russia finally found what it's good at. Or, more to the point, it knew all along - but the skill was not in demand until now. Only with the world fully interconnected the last piece of the puzzle fell into place.
Russia has never been much for productive development. But ability to endlessly argue for the sake of an argument and troll is ingrained in the culture and the language. It was not of much use before when any information produced locally stayed local. Now that they have world-wi
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To wit: When you don't have abs, pecs, or ceps, show your dick. If your dick is small, just moon them.
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( Unstoppable force / immovable object ) * internet
I'm not convinced we have to live with it. With regional internets on the rise, the future might just see them unplugged.
Test case (Score:2)
Search Last Jedi
Apparently all the Russian Trolls have excellent English and live in America as American citizens.
Look, if you agree with Disney's and Hollywood's political agenda of feminist superiority, fine. But I know a lot of what the Russkies have done, and the meme is even getting tired for me. What is interesting is the same old same old blame everything but the possibility that you made a politicized movie with a not so good story line that simply isn't enjoyable to watch.
Esp
The movie itself was political (Score:2)
positive trolls ? (Score:2)
The likely objective of these measures is increasing media coverage of the fandom conflict, thereby adding to and further propagating a narrative of widespread discord and dysfunction in American society.
So it was the trolls who argued that it was a good movie?
Because I've yet to meet a person who thinks it is, so that clearly is not the majority opinion of the non-trolls (or at least the non-paid trolls).
Riiiiight (Score:2)
Obviously this is a nefarious plot to destroy American culture by taking down the Star Wars franchise. Will the country survive?? /sarcasm
If Rocky and Bullwinkle returned to TV, this could be one of the story lines.
I hate to say it... (Score:2)
If the conclusions are accurate, and more than half of the negative comments belong to trolls, I have to say that in this case, the trolls have it right. The current incarnation of Disney seems utterly devoted to sucking all the joy, edginess and originality out of their movies to deliver serviceable but soulless flicks that are barely adequate as a Friday night time-waster on any half-decent home entertainment setup. But after a Friday night out at the theatre, you leave feeling ripped off. I can see so
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So did I.
$tar War$ (Score:2)
Di$ney doesn't really give two shits about the quality as long as it brings in profits.
The Last Jedi was so bad I didn't even bother to see Solo. Just done wasting money on it at this point.
Check out authors twitter (Score:2)
Plenty of left-leaning bots licking his "white cis male" balls for this "work". Facepalm.
They're in for a surprise. (Score:2)
The so-called russian trolls and bots have had their fun, playing fast and loose with lofty western ideals such as democracy, fairness, honesty, etc, and undermining our precious freedoms.
Now they've decided to fuck with the mouse. They should have sent someone to spend a few months embedded as cast or crew at a Disney resort or park, and learned just what happens to anyone tarnishing the image. They won't know what's hit them.
Go Russian Trolls! (Score:2)
Honestly, with all these trolls having such *based* opinion these "investigations" into their activities are just making me a fan of Russian trolls.
Yaknow 'Russians pooped in the hallway' = sarcasm? (Score:2)
....yes? [me.me] Oh, I was late for work the other morning - the Russians must have been involved. Justice League was a shitty movie - must have been the Russian's fault.
Because reasons.
Not that TLJ is an objectively shitty movie. The whole lightspeed ram that wrecks 40 years of continuity. Why build a Death Star when you can get a few junk freighters and use them as mass drivers against a planet? Why did the Alliance bother with those Death Star plans when a half dozen Kamikaze runs in quick succession could
Unpossible. (Score:4, Funny)
We made it PRECISELY according to the committee-approved 'Star Wars action film' formula, how could it not be perfect?
I mean:
When the focus groups showed kids found it stultifying, we added cute little things that were optimized for cheap production according to our Vietnamese factories. They are perfectly designed by slave-labor engineers to be adorable.
When the focus groups showed Asian viewers thought it was stupid, we bolted onto the story a pudgy Asian chick, hopefully snagging the 'all body images are positive' demo as well.
We made the lead character a woman because powerful vaginas are super-trendy now.
We added gay dudes because well duh, you have to have gay people in an adventure.
We employed only faceless mediocrities, pretty much just like George Lucas did (except we did it so we could lock them into lifetime contracts of servitude).
WE EVEN MADE THE BAD GUY A WHITE MAN. How could that possibly be wrong in 2018?
We clearly hit all the IMPORTANT mechanics needed to make a perfect film; it had to be Russians that fucked this up.
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Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:5, Interesting)
They're trying to polarize both like and dislike for the movie and then cause both camps to draw an assumption about the political affiliation of the other camp. They're doing this with every element of pop culture that people disagree on. Like the summary says, the overarching goal is primarily to foster the public perception of increased social dysfunction from within and without.
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:4, Interesting)
Because our perception of social disfunction is caused by disagreement over a movie.
And not, say, a broken healthcare system, a broken pension system, corrupt and stupid politicians, the church abusing small kids and then covering it up, the media actively, openly and much more aggressively reinforcing the split of society into camps, the economy being plundered by banks and the super-rich or everyone with a buck to make denying or opposing climate change.
Or any of the other issues of the day that nobody, least those whose fucking job it is, taking care of.
Sure, of all the real issues that divide and threaten society, a paid army of trolls picks movie reviews as their choice weapon to destabilise western society.
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Shorter old neckbeard: "If I was gunna rob a bank, I'd do it differently than that, therefore that movie is impossible."
Re: BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:2)
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A tip for Hollywood - if you want to maximise sales stop excluding half of your potential audience.
There were a considerable number of films made for that other half, unfortunately though Leni Riefenstahl and Veit Harlan have both passed away since then.
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:5, Insightful)
yeah, they present no actual evidence. This is literally the "Everyone I Disagree With Is A Russian Bot" mentality.
The Last Judi sucked ass. The box office reflected that only a little bit, because everyone had to see it for themselves. It had far fewer people seeing it multiple times, however.
The sales figures for the bluray (absolutely awful) reflect it.
The sales figures for the toys (absolutely awful) reflect it
The sales figures for Solo (absolutely awful) reflect it.
The sales figures for the Solo bluray (absolutely awful) reflect it.
If there's someone sewing discord in America it's people like Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson. These shitlords actively attacked fans and customers. They continue to double down on alienating the people who give them money when it doesn't work. Oh, the movie did poorly because we didn't listen to the fans and their concerns? Time to call our fans racist, sexist, etc. Time to say "the Force is female" and literally say we don't need male fans. Time to insult people for not "getting" that the new animated show (at a 10PM time slot) is shallow, bland shit because it's for kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. They got a freebie with The Force Awakens because people wanted new Star Wars. They got a crappy ripoff of the original with major plot holes (who the fuck is making this map and why does R2 have a missing piece of it and if you have a portion of some map/tracking data why not just start searching in in the blank areas?). Adam Driver is a bad actor. Emo Darth Vader is a terrible character. Daisy Ridley is a plank of wood. Rey isn't a terrible character, but that's only because she isn't even a character. She's a foil, at best. A fucking Milhouse.
I won't see Episode IX in the theater. I'll wait for Redbox.
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This is a blatant case of "Russian bot delusion".
Twitter found less than 50 identifiable "Russian bot" accounts out of 200 million. And then it suspended a couple of million people for supposedly being "bots".
That alone should tell you that the Russian bot thing is nothing but BS conspiracy theory.
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:5, Informative)
Your missing 3 zeros there buddy.
They said they found 30,000. Not 30. Between them they logged in 570,000 times , removed 220,000 'suspicious' applications that had generated over 2 billion tweets. (According to twitter)
So...yeah, vet your sources man.
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https://www.wired.com/story/ho... [wired.com]
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:4, Insightful)
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Fuck off, Rogue One took a massive shit on Leia's legacy and made the opening of a new hope a joke.
What the actual fuck? Can you please explain that one.
Love to.
Because Leia's main big thing was building the rebels death star understanding through the expanded universe. They first learn of it in the force unleashed (with the original starkiller whos family crest became the rebel alliance emblem) then over the course of years they built up their copy of the plans by multiple missions, raids and operations all orchestrated chiefly by Leia. The empire knew of the potential and didn't keep all the plans in one place, the people building the engines had the pl
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:4, Insightful)
You kind of missed the bit where Russians are on average more into science fiction than Americans and thus proportionally would have been more put off by crap science fiction but of course if you are Russian and you hate something, express your opinion online you are a troll and of course if you are Russian and you like something, express your opinion online you are a troll and if you are Russian and you are indifferent to something and express your opinion online you are a troll.
To put it simply https://www.rbth.com/news/2015... [rbth.com] and thus will use English language websites and they all are trolls, this is called rampant prejudice as is typical coming out of a very racist and prejudiced US, which is now also hugely sexually conflicted across multiple genders, I am going with Bunjil as my gender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org], in preparation for more SJW bullshit coming out of the US, that or other ;D.
American main stream media, please fuck off with your racism and prejudice, one thing I have noticed, it is funny in American media for white men to be raped in prison but not funny anywhere for women of any kind to be raped, why is that?!?
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When the Five Year Plans failed, it was never because Communism was stupid, no, it was because of "wreckers" (or 40 consecutive "unexpectedly cold" winters).
This is just the same tune with new lyrics. It's not because they were stupid, make drek and insulting fans directly, no it was because of "Russian trolls". Presumably when IX tanks it will be the unexpectedly cold winter.
The dysfunction will continue until the companies implode.
But no bad talk about Emo Darth Vader! Emo Darth Vader is best Disney P
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:5, Funny)
I hated it. And yes, I 'm a russian troll that traveled back in time 15 years to get this username.
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Oh, so you're the one who outbid me when they auctioned off the nyet account in October of 2016.
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4.49 rubles well spent, I assure you.
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This sounds like reverse plot harvesting. Someone from the future goes into the past and sells plots from reboot movies from the future to people in the past, ie. Ghostbusters Reboot, Star Trek Reboot, Mad Max Reboot, etc. The Hollywood writers and directors in the past then improved the plots, creating what we call the "original" versions of these movies. It makes more sense then the currently held narrative that the reboots were created after the "originals". After all, how could the revised version of a
Re:BRACE FOR IMPACT (Score:5, Funny)
Red Letter Media: RED?! MUST BE RUSSIANS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Canadian Troll here (Score:2)
In this case it's a Canadian troll denying it. The idea that Russians care about American reactions to a movie in order to spur discord fails the sniff test on a few counts.
1) Americans are already tearing themselves apart quite handily on their own. The bi-party system is just fundamentally broken. What "your" party does is always ok, and what the other party does is demonized even when they are the same thing. The Republicans can block a demo
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Hey look guys, I found one!
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How could you have not liked the Holiday Special? Unthinkable! :p
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No, it's not code at all. Russian trolls happen to be all straight white men because gays are fucking killed in Russia. So gay or not, you better present to the world as a straight white man in Russia, or you're in deep shit.
And if you're in Russia, where the average monthly income is $437, you better find some way to supplement your income, so yes, Russian trolls = straight white men.
https://www.newyorker.com/cult... [newyorker.com]
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This is cute... first off $437 is more then enough to live on, if you don't live in a hyper inflated country (Russia actually pays it's debts), Second gays aren't killed in Russia by the state, read the Russian laws, it doesn't say anywhere at all gays must be killed, it says it no where... so a group of people might be doing it... hows the KKK doing? Oh wait we won't go there...
As far as I'm concerned, the cheap shots at Russia need to stop, we been on the look out for Russians since the 60's always with
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You don't know what you're talking about. The cost of a car is the same in Russia as it is in the US. The cost of clothing is actually about 27% more in Russia. Cigarettes are cheap, but rents are about the same, if you live in the kind of place you'd want to live and not the middle of nowhere. If you want to go to a movie in Russia, it's about $9.50 US. In the US, it's $10. Groceries are more expensive in Russ
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Car? There's vodka!
Rent? There's vodka!
Movies? There's vodka!
Clothes? There's vodka!
Groceries? There's vodka!
I'm not seeing your point here...
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Cheap shots will not stop because revolutionary narrative needs its boogeymen. It cannot function without them.
In case of soviets, it was people doing better than others. In case of nazis, it was jews and other inferiour ethnicities as well as mentally and physically ill. In case of modern progressives, it's Russian trolls and those in their states that serve the evil patriarchy.
Definition being as wide as it is specifically serves the ability to make anyone an enemy as needed. Just like in the Soviet model
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This was not a study. This was an academic paper. Generally it means that it had references, structure, and was run through a casual spellcheck. Nothing more is assured.
Re: Honest opinion vs Propaganda (Score:2)
"It's too bad there hasn't been "academic research" done to see who is paying for critics to leave positive reviews as if every movie is flawless."
Anyone who did that study would have a very short career as an academic...