US Indicts Chinese Hacker-Spies In Conspiracy To Steal Aerospace Secrets (gizmodo.com) 80
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: The U.S. Justice Department has charged two Chinese intelligence officers, six hackers, and two aerospace company insiders in a sweeping conspiracy to steal confidential aerospace technology from U.S. and French companies. For more than five years, two Chinese Ministry of State Security (MSS) spies are said to have run a team of hackers focusing on the theft of designs for a turbofan engine used in U.S. and European commercial airliners, according to an unsealed indictment dated October 25. In a statement, the DOJ said a Chinese state-owned aerospace company was simultaneously working to develop a comparable engine.
The MSS officers involved were identified as Zha Rong, a division director in the Jiangsu Province regional department (JSSD), and Chai Meng, a JSSD section chief. At the direction of the MSS officers, the hackers allegedly infiltrated a number of U.S.-based aerospace companies, including California-based Capstone Turbine, among others in Arizona, Massachusetts, and Oregon, the DOJ said. The officers are also said to have recruited at least two Chinese employees of a French aerospace manufacturer -- insiders who allegedly aided the conspiracy by, among other acts, installing Sakula, a remote access trojan, onto company computers.
The MSS officers involved were identified as Zha Rong, a division director in the Jiangsu Province regional department (JSSD), and Chai Meng, a JSSD section chief. At the direction of the MSS officers, the hackers allegedly infiltrated a number of U.S.-based aerospace companies, including California-based Capstone Turbine, among others in Arizona, Massachusetts, and Oregon, the DOJ said. The officers are also said to have recruited at least two Chinese employees of a French aerospace manufacturer -- insiders who allegedly aided the conspiracy by, among other acts, installing Sakula, a remote access trojan, onto company computers.
Re:FBI should investigate Khashoggi killing (Score:5, Insightful)
There's not investigating (Score:1)
Wake me up when they subpoena Jared's WhatsApp Saudi communications. Or Trumps business records connecting him to Prince Bone Saw. Or the 15 days of too-ing and fro-ing that resulted in the "died in fist fight" bullshit and Trumps "I believe them" unsustainable bullshit.
This needs a special prosecutor.
They should have enforced the emoluments clause from the start, should have prevented the non-governmental back channels via Jared. If the story of Jared's Saudi visit is true, then that's a major crime and sh
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You're forgetting the FBI has zero jurisdiction over a Saudi national being murdered in Turkey.
If you're speaking as a matter of law then no. However, the United States is a powerful nation with the ability to inflict great economic harms upon those nations which displease her. In fact the economic power of the United States is so overwhelming that her vast military powers rarely need to be demonstrated. Like the French Marshals of Napoleon or the Roman Legates of centuries past, merely displaying the baton is enough to command obedience and respect. On top of that, just about every nation on this pl
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First of all, your original post is spoken like someone planting fake issues against the US. Maybe you're a Chinese government troll working to divert attention from the main issue presented.
Next, the issue you raise isn't an American issue at all with the minor exception of the fact that Khashoggi worked for the Washington Post. Sure the Saudis are scum for doing this, and you're blaming Trump for that? As if the previous administration wasn't in bed with them too? Get a grip.
Re:FBI should investigate Khashoggi killing (Score:5, Funny)
Woah, check your islamophobia, bigot. Dismembering dissident journalists with a bone saw is part of rich Saudi culture. Stop trying to impose your judeo-christian white male values on other cultures.
Which one? (Score:2, Informative)
Is this the chinese spy that worked for pelosi for two decades?
No? Still going to keep ignoring that one? Oh alright then.
anybody surprised? (Score:5, Insightful)
The real problem here, is that the west has dropped our guard and continues to allow Chinese (and russian) spies in.
It is time to stop this insanity. We need to move security clearances back to the FBI.
Oddly, Trump is headed down the right road on this.
Re: You are right! Americans should NOT be surpris (Score:2)
Re: You are right! Americans should NOT be surpri (Score:2)
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I wouldn't write them off so flippantly. China has been making huge strides on quality, precision, etc. I remember buying Made in China stuff when I was a kid and being subsequently hugely disappointed in the results pretty much every time. Nowadays, things I buy from China on eBay very often exceed my expectations.
In a way, I'm kind of rooting for the Chinese to grab all the trade secrets they can so that they can produce higher quality stuff at amazingly low prices. The USA is so broken with backhanded go
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I remember buying Made in China stuff when I was a kid and being subsequently hugely disappointed in the results pretty much every time. Nowadays, things I buy from China on eBay very often exceed my expectations.
In the 60's "Made in Japan" was a certificate of junkiness. That turned around in the 70's, and by the 80's Japan was starting to eat Detroit. In the 90's we were so like "Turning Japanese I think I'm turning Japanese at least I think so".
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Being able to make rocket engines has little or nothing to do with it, by the way.
The age of computer hacking has made it possible for China is attempt to jump the line and steal what they don't want to spend the time and money on to develop for themselves. Then, of course, they will do their level best t
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But the companies that make mil/gov products need to have more diversity and have to reflect the demographics of the surrounding city and state.
Think of what barriers to advancement by the local community new security clearances put up.
Need to be educated.
Not on drugs with a lifestyle that always needs funds to get more drugs.
No lifestyle with compromising information.
No gambling problems and open to offers of money.
No criminals.
Not spies for other nation
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Funny, the Washington Post reported that ~5 million Americans hold security clearances. Were you unable to cut it?
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The percentage of the population is irrelevant. 5 million people is far from "a very few" that the GP stated.
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The west was too busy spying on itself to worry too much about external threats. After all, if they helped us secure our systems they would just be breaking their own ability to hack them! Better to keep those vulnerabilities for their own use than to get them fixed.
Improving security to prevent spying is better than trying to arrest and convict the spies. Aside from anything else, there will likely be retaliation against US citizens in China who are accused of spying, and further restrictions on US compani
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With trade imbalanced so heavily, China needs us much more than we need them. They won't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Careful, they said that about the UK and the EU too, and look how that is working out.
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With trade imbalanced so heavily, China needs us much more than we need them.
What? How does that work? China has all the manufacturing, a billion consumers, and a huge cash surplus. What do they need the USA for?
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Why do they need us? Ask yourself why do they need the $505B we sent to them in 2017. You think they don't care if the US funds were to dry up?
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Re: Losing team. (Score:2)
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It is very relevant to China. Every time they get caught it provides the ammunition the government needs to ban Chinese products entering the US market. It can also lead to sanctions and prohibitions on other technologies that contain Chinese components in the products supply chain. Just ask Kaspersky Labs what happens when the US government decides to declare a company is a national security risk just because they are closely associated with a government hostile to the US.
Escalation (Score:2, Insightful)
When hacker or spy just doesn't grab the attention of the public anymore, hacker-spy!
Internal Affairs (Score:2)
At these kind of companies, I'm surprised they don't contract to a company that hires Chinese and other nationalities to approach their client's employees and try to turn them into agents. Better that you find out who on your team's corruptible, than the competition finding out first.
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Companies like Amazon, Walmart, GM, Pioneer Seeds(du pont) and so on use 3rd party companies that hire or transfer a new person where thefts/IP-theft are happening, and the plant picks away until they're part of the ring itself. Then come either litigation and/or firings and/or both. You just don't hear about it much, outside of the "so-and-so worker/manager/upper-manager/production assistant/etc was escorted out of the building" with no reasons given and even the gossip queens have no idea why.
must not have worked (Score:2)
Perspective (Score:2)
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New meaning (Score:1)
Gives a new meaning to the old slur, "Chinese copy," doesn't it.
{^_-}
Remember the British jet engines... (Score:2)
The Chinese don't really need to grab anything, they own many Airbus and Boeing planes with those engines.
Back in the 1960's they bought a few British passenger planes and made literally Chinese copies of the engines just fine.
Every Chinese immigrant is a potential spy (Score:2)
How it works:
When you want to come to the west the Chinese Government will remind you that you still have family in China. If your working somewhere where they might want some information they simply will ask you to get it.
Simple.