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'YouTube Music is a Bad Product in Desperate Need of Improvement Before Anyone Will Care To Use It' (androidcentral.com) 72

Andrew Martonik, writing for AndroidCentral: YouTube Music as a service has been around for about three years now, though it really only existed in earnest once the revamped version of the YouTube Music app and dedicated website, as we know it today, launched in May. Whether you look at it as three years or just six months old, one thing is clear: YouTube Music isn't finished yet, is filled with issues and is incredibly frustrating to use on a daily basis considering it costs the industry-standard $10 per month.

YouTube Music is so unfinished and lacking features that I question whether Google has any intentions of following through with its vision of replacing Google Play Music entirely. Put simply, I can't believe Google thinks anyone will pay $10 per month for it when all signs point to Google itself not caring about YouTube Music's success. YouTube Music effectively doesn't work with Google Home. [...] YouTube Music also still doesn't work with Android Auto, which is just as inexcusable as not working with Google Home.

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'YouTube Music is a Bad Product in Desperate Need of Improvement Before Anyone Will Care To Use It'

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    The RIAA was saying how it was taking significant sales away from them. Well which is it?

  • Not a suprise (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:25PM (#57748042) Homepage Journal
    This isn't a surprise. Google does most things halfway and will eventually cancel it.
    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      Do you really want to know why they routinely fail. It is really quite simple, they are an advertising platform, that is their forte, that is their focus, everything else is bait for that platform. Now seriously, if you are fishing, do you really care about how good or bad that bait is for the fish or just that it will tempt them to bite the hook. So the bait needs to be just good enough to get the fish to bite and then hopefully as far as the advertising fisherman is concerned hooked. So they routinely cut

  • Why do I have recommendations in my feed, that have absolutely nothing to do with anything I've ever watched, ever before?

    YT is a mess....christ only knows how bad YT music is...

  • by t0qer ( 230538 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:34PM (#57748106) Homepage Journal

    I use good old youtube for listening to music in my car during my morning commutes. Using the google assistant, I say, "OK Google, youtube Chemical Brothers" and I used to get chemical brothers playback starting flawlessly on my drive without looking at my phone.

    Last 6 months or so YT has employed strategies to curb this kind of use. Routinely the "Youtube Music" add with "FREE TRIAL MONTH" pops up and won't go away until I physically look for the "No thanks" button. That sort of distraction can lead to an accident. They've also employed the "Are you still listening?" and "Autoplayback paused" Luckily the latter 2 can be skipped by pressing a button on my bluetooth radio transmitter.

    • by Hodr ( 219920 )

      . That sort of distraction can lead to an accident.

      Lots of legitimate complaints to be had about youtube. Distracting you while driving is not one of them.

  • It doesn't matter until the pricing model improves. Before streaming, the majority of people did not spend $120 a year on albums, which would be roughly 12 albums a year. Some of the streaming services are doing ok now, but until the price point drops to somewhere between $5 and $7 a month and until the messy regional licensing stuff gets sorted out, they're all going to stagnate.

    They have to choose - lose the extra revenue for the real music buffs or get everyone onboard and earn less per subscriber, but f

    • Before streaming, the majority of people did not spend $120 a year on albums, which would be roughly 12 albums a year.

      Do you have actual numbers on that? Anecdotally, in high school I spent way more than $120 a year on CDs. I doubt that was uncommon back then.

      • Yeah but in a tight month I could sell them back to the store. If I bought them used I could get back over 50% of what I paid, if I bought new maybe 35%.

        Also then I had a bunch of LPs, cassettes, and CDs sitting there on a shelf, I could look at it and have feelings about my music collection.

        Just being able to listen to the songs, I mean, does that actually have value? Is it still a scarce resource? Am I supposed to feel wealthy because some company gave me access to their stuff? Surely not in the same way

  • Goodbye Google (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Toxiz ( 4980833 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:51PM (#57748224)
    In the past I have thought, I will use google because they are a huge company. They aren't going to get bought or dismantled anytime soon. I won't have to deal with finding all new products.

    Death of Google reader: OK, it's a big internet I can find another way to aggregate RSS feeds. And google says that's a dying technology anyhow.

    Death of Google homepage: This one hurt a bit more. It was nice having a configurable homepage that I could point to the most personally relevant info on the web. I guess I can just make bookmarks and hit 5 different sites when I sit down.

    Destruction of Google finance: So it's been a little less useful since google homepage died, but it's still nice to have my portfolio organized the way I want. All I have to do now is click on the shortcut. But wait, they just destroyed google finance. I can no longer even decide the top three stocks I want to show up on that page.

    Death of Google hangouts: Great I finally got my entire group of family and friends to all use the same chat client. Now google says they are killing this by the end of next year. Hangouts, by the way, is the one reason chrome gets installed as soon as I build any PC.

    So you are telling me that google has yet another project that they have released and are putting no love into. Go ahead, sign up, spend three years cultivating an app to play the music you want to listen too. Don't worry it will be fine. Google is a huge company. I'm sure you won't waste all of your effort getting this configured and trained, only to be abandoned on the growing list of google services that just cease to exist.

    I have a pixel 3. I have youtubeTV for $35 a month. I use google search and chrome (huge advertising target). So, please don't tell me they don't make money from me using their products.

    I think I'm done with Google. I really tried to be part of their ecosystem. They don't seem to care. So, I can't see myself caring to delve further into this bottomless pit of abandoned services.
  • Sure, I use through a subscription to YT Plus (or whatever it's called), but YT music is great in the car.

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:57PM (#57748264)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • by wbr1 ( 2538558 )
      I used Premium Google Play Music for 3-4 years. Due to finances, I cut it. I recently got a spotify premium trial (after using free spotify for a few months). GPM beats it hands down in terms of navigation, recommendations, etc. I am certainly biased by the long use of GPM, but when I try to look as subjectively as possible I still think GPM wins. Also, I have uploaded a large amount of my old vinyl and CD collection to GPM, whihc is handy. I also have it all on a plex server, but even with a beast o
    • With Spotify, I pay $10 a month and get ad-free music on Spotify.

      With Google, for the same price, I get ad-free music on Google Play, ad-free music on YouTube music, ad-free YouTube videos on YouTube Premium, original series and movies on YouTube Premium, and additional features on the YouTube app on my phone.

  • by FryingLizard ( 512858 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @01:30PM (#57748456)

    main reason I use it is b/c it gets the whole family YT without the ads (as a side-perk), which I value very much b/c my 8-yr old is a YT fiend on her ipad and I prefer her un-brainwashed by commercials.
    Off topic but...
    Her personal choice (I monitor her YT history) is to watch endless home-made vids created by other 8-12 year olds, which - while occasionally annoying to overhear - are harmless kid silliness and much richer creatively than the hours of garbage-grade mass produced kid cartoons my generation watched on broadcast TV.
    At one point I put netflix on her ipad and took it off two days later b/c she started binge-watching entire series of crap (sound familiar? ;-) - on YT that doesn't happen b/c - like anyone - she can't resist the random links and ends up watching quite a variety of stuff.
    The "Annoying Orange" channel tho. Damn. Aptly named. That's fine tho; kids are meant to like some things that irritate their parents. ;-)

  • by kriston ( 7886 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @02:34PM (#57748914) Homepage Journal

    If you prefer curated playlists like I do, use DI.FM. It started with electronic music but evolved into a full music service with channels in all genres. The 64 kbps AAC+ mode saves a ton of bandwidth.

    Google seems to be trying everything they can to recoup the operating costs of YouTube.

  • Youtube has a "music product"? I use Youtube all the time and can't recall ever seeing anything about it.

    Tell me again, why would I want to get my music from Youtube?

  • You don't pay the $10 for the music. You pay it for ad-free YouTube which also happens to give you the music app for free.

  • Let's not forget about Sonos integration. It's NOT possible to use Youtube Music with Sonos yet! They keep saying it's on the roadmap, going on at least 7 months now...

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