Nancy Grace Roman, 'Mother Of Hubble' Space Telescope, Has Died, At Age 93 (npr.org) 65
Russell Lewis, writing for NPR: When Nancy Grace Roman was a child, her favorite object to draw was the moon. Her mother used to take her on walks under the nighttime sky and show her constellations, or point out the colorful swirls of the aurora. Roman loved to look up at the stars and imagine. Eventually, her passion for stargazing blossomed into a career as a renowned astronomer. Roman was one of the first female executives at NASA, where she served as the agency's first chief of astronomy. Known as the "Mother of Hubble," for her role in making the Hubble Space Telescope a reality, Roman worked at NASA for nearly two decades. She died on Dec. 25 at the age of 93.
Roman fought to earn her place in a field dominated by men, paving the path for future female scientists. She was born in Nashville, Tenn. in 1925 and organized an astronomy club in fifth grade. She attended high school in Baltimore, where she requested to take a second year of algebra instead of a fifth year of Latin. When she made the appeal, she recounted in a 2017 interview with NPR that the guidance counselor wasn't supportive of her dream to become a scientist.
Her efforts helped lead to the creation of the Hubble Space Telescope. In her role at NASA, Roman developed and planned the Hubble Space Telescope, which is famous for its stunning images of space. Because of the Hubble Space Telescope, scientists have been able to collect data and gain insight into even the most remote galaxies of the universe. The success of the project led to future space telescopes. Roman's work, however, reached far beyond just the Hubble Space Telescope. In an interview with NASA, Roman once stated that one of the highlights of her career was when she discovered the first indication that common stars were not all the same age.
Roman fought to earn her place in a field dominated by men, paving the path for future female scientists. She was born in Nashville, Tenn. in 1925 and organized an astronomy club in fifth grade. She attended high school in Baltimore, where she requested to take a second year of algebra instead of a fifth year of Latin. When she made the appeal, she recounted in a 2017 interview with NPR that the guidance counselor wasn't supportive of her dream to become a scientist.
Her efforts helped lead to the creation of the Hubble Space Telescope. In her role at NASA, Roman developed and planned the Hubble Space Telescope, which is famous for its stunning images of space. Because of the Hubble Space Telescope, scientists have been able to collect data and gain insight into even the most remote galaxies of the universe. The success of the project led to future space telescopes. Roman's work, however, reached far beyond just the Hubble Space Telescope. In an interview with NASA, Roman once stated that one of the highlights of her career was when she discovered the first indication that common stars were not all the same age.
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You're an ignorant idiot.
I'm guessing you've never worked for long in the real world.
1. I work with feds. out of dozens, one doesn't know what he's doing.
2. Hubble was, from day 1, a NASA project. Civilian space. Basic scientific research.
I don't know why you even post.
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Damn you're gullible. Even after they admit a story was bullshit, you repeat it.
Hubble is a re-tuned keyhole, turned upward. They've flown 7 or 8 'Hubbles' pointing down, the last new one flew last fucking week.
I don't know what population for feds you work with. Has not been my experience. They're competent at 'working' the federal system, can't be fired.
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Hubble is a re-tuned keyhole, turned upward. They've flown 7 or 8 'Hubbles' pointing down, the last new one flew last fucking week
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While surely Hubble design drew heavily on R&D from DoD recon birds, the Hubble design would make for a really lousy spy satellite, and vice-versa: "re-tuned" is a pretty strong statement.
"Shared some components, for a completely different set of requirements" is a better statement. If nothing else, going so far over budget and off-schedule would have been super-hard if NASA was just buying a COTS Hubble from DoD.
some context here, to fully illustrate my "gullibility" - I've built a prototype air c
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They share an aperture and a spectrum. Likely a basic layout, possibly a mirror.
So many stories like hers. (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunately there are so many stories like hers, where some one aspires to be more then what society says they can be. Makes me wonder, without all that extra luggage how much further could they have became.
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There are other stories like her, from people who are of different skin color, nationality, even born into the wrong class or parentage. There are also people who as a child had been placed in the "Stupid Kid" classes, and basically placed in the fast track to meritocracy. We as a society are more interested in putting people in their place in society vs finding the best place for them to be in.
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Is it that they don't want to go into the fields, or society tells them they shouldn't go into that field.
Back in college we had a small number of Women Computer Science Students. And they mentioned that their other women peers would actually put them down for choosing such a major.
They were just as good as any of the other students, but the biggest problem is society told them what they should be doing.
Also as of note, I work with a lot of older Computer Scientists, many of them over the age 55 seem to a
Re: So many stories like hers. (Score:2)
One of the things that struck me in the BBC story about her was a woman careers advisor trying to put her off but being completely accepted by her male peers in her scientific role.
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One of the things that struck me in the BBC story about her was a woman careers advisor trying to put her off but being completely accepted by her male peers in her scientific role.
That's exactly how it happens. I wrote above how the female scientists and engineers took shit from the staff ladies.
My wife always had trouble with the females who worked for her. Jealousy, backstabbing, rumor mills. The men who worked for her loved her.
I believe the term used is "Crab Potting"
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Is it that they don't want to go into the fields, or society tells them they shouldn't go into that field.
Back in college we had a small number of Women Computer Science Students. And they mentioned that their other women peers would actually put them down for choosing such a major.
They were just as good as any of the other students, but the biggest problem is society told them what they should be doing.
Also as of note, I work with a lot of older Computer Scientists, many of them over the age 55 seem to a larger percentage of woman. As computer science use to be considered Womans work back a few generations ago.
Of course a woman can be as good as any other student in CompSci. But you did hit the exact problem. The man holding women down is a female.
The biggest resistance to women working in STEM comes from other women. The women scientists and engineers I worked with would confirm this. They took crap from the women in what were considered "proper" careers. The divide between the Staff Assistants and the professional women was huge. I always felt badly for the ladies affected by this.
Re:So many stories like hers. (Score:5, Interesting)
Makes me wonder, without all that extra luggage how much further could they have became.
I firmly believe that this "extra luggage" often contributes to the greatness that unfolds. For someone that has a true passion and interest, these hurdles often seem to me like motivating factors pushing that person to achieve more than they might have if those same achievements had just been "expected" of them.
I think most would agree that you're more likely to pour your heart and soul into a achieving a goal if there's a little resistance along the way...someone else saying you can't do that or simply the fact that you're the first to do it...just *something* that can sweeten the pot a little or act as that little grain of irritating sand needed to make that really big, shiny pearl at the end.
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Yeah, totes. Sounds exactly the same.
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If it fits the narrative, it runs. Surly this isn't the first propaganda you've seen.
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We're also familiar with the idea of partici
Good scientist, nice gal (Score:5, Informative)
Seriously (Score:3)
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There can't be that many Nancy Graces around, why does the Angel of Death keep taking the wrong one?
Mods - do your thing, and I do mean +5
Once again a persons career is reduced... (Score:1)
to a story about their genitalia.
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Well that and you know a giant fucking space telescope.
Who modded this shit up?
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No matter how wild a claim about "SJW" or liberals, any demand for evidence will be met with downmods.
I don't consider myself any kind of warrior, but how's that for evidence: http://www.stsci.edu/news/news... [stsci.edu]?
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I don't consider myself any kind of warrior, but how's that for evidence: http://www.stsci.edu/news/news [stsci.edu]...?
I don't follow. Evidence of what? My contention here is that it's more or less reached the point where some AC will post "liberals ate my baby" and be modded +5 informative and the inevitable "sounds like bullshit, got a link" post will get -1 troll.
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because latin is SO much more useful than math (Score:3)
I don't understand what teachers or councilors like that are thinking. School is to prepare you for adulthood, help you find your direction in life, and give you skills that will get you employment when you graduate. What on earth is FIVE years of latin going to get you? Sure there's a few niche jobs that it'd be useful in - clergy, archeology, maybe museum... but MATH, that will open hundreds of doors for you.
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Don't forget that she was probably in high school in the late 1930's / early 1940's (bio says she was 93 years old). Thanks to people like her, twisting counselors' arms in the 1930's, the question is not "I don't understand what teachers or councilors like that *are* thinking". The question is "what teachers or councilors like that *were* thinking". Remember, having women working in auto and airplane production was a huge cultural leap. Women in science? Practically undheard of.
I haven't had business
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It held on a lot longer than that. My mother was born in 1953, and SHE also for some reason decided to get on board the Latin Train. (yes, again with FIVE years of it...) On the plus side, you can ask her what pretty much any word means and she can get you started in the general direction by ripping it apart, regardless of how many syllables it has. (actually, the more, the better)
So for her
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Latin was supposed to teach you to follow logical rule systems.
Because an exception filled illogical ('Sailor' is neuter, lost his balls in the war) grammatical system is logical by the standards of the humanities.
It wasn't that long ago that 4 years of latin and 2 of classical greek were required for college admission. It was a weedout, keep out the riff raff whose HS didn't teach the subjects.
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I don't understand what teachers or councilors like that are thinking
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but, But, BUT, she was a only a girl!!! :-)