Scientists Drill Into 3,500 Feet of Ice To Reach a Mysterious Antarctic Lake (gizmodo.com) 88
Late last week, a team of about 50 scientists, drillers, and support staff successfully punched through nearly 4,000 feet of ice to access an Antarctic subglacial lake for just the second time in human history. From a report: On Friday, the Subglacial Antarctic Lakes Scientific Access (SALSA) team announced they'd reached Lake Mercer after melting their way through an enormous frozen river with a high-pressure, hot-water drill. The multi-year effort to tap into the subglacial lake -- one of approximately 400 scientists have detected across Antarctica -- offers a rare opportunity to study the biology and chemistry of the most isolated ecosystems on Earth. The only other subglacial lake humans have drilled into -- nearby Lake Whillans, sampled in 2013 -- demonstrated that these extreme environments can play host to diverse microbial life. Naturally, scientists are stoked to see what they'll find lurking in Lake Mercer's icy waters. "We don't know what we'll find," John Priscu, a biogeochemist at Montana State University and chief scientist for SALSA, told Earther via satellite phone from the SALSA drill camp on the Whillans Ice Plain. "We're just learning, it's only the second time that this has been done."
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Love your tagline. Doesn't have anything to do with the Nazis though.
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This is an effort to contaminate and kill whatever may live in this underground lake.
Avoiding contamination is the whole reason this effort has taken so long.
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Good to see a refreshing change to the usual space "exploration" stories.
Actually, in a way it is a space story, which is even more refreshing. Researchers are intensely curious about what might be under the ice on Europa and Enceladus. Ice-boring robots will be tested in Antarctica first.
System upgrade (Score:1)
Maybe it's time for slashdot to start using the metric system...
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Oh, like "1.0688 kilometers" is any rounder than "3500 feet".
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https://salsa-antarctica.org/2018/12/28/3578/ [salsa-antarctica.org]
Why would scientists want to "round up" numbers? They dug to a depth of 1084 metres and that's all there is to it.
Saying "3500 feet" is the mistake here, because th
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Scientists and international projects tend to use SI units. Both the international foot [wikipedia.org] and US foot [wikipedia.org] are used in the US depending on state and task, but they're both defined in meters. So like you and the article demonstrated, you lose accuracy by sloppily converting it back and forth.
Headline should be ' violated and contaminated' (Score:2, Insightful)
Should read "Scientists violated and contaminated a the last remaining pristine wilderness ecosystem untouched by the ravages of modern civilization."
That's how it would read if it was anything other than scientists, such as an oil exploration company searching for oil.
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Dude, you would kill at parties, if you got invited to any.
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What does one have anything to do with the other?
Generalizing like that is stupid.
Re:Not possible (Score:4, Informative)
To my knowledge, no mainstream model has ever predicted that the South Pole would be ice free in our lifetimes. Even in scenarios where the Antarctic Ice Sheet collapses, there's still going to be snow and ice at the South Pole, where summer highs are around -26C.
As for the Arctic, climate change there a bit like changing the odds on a lottery from one in million to one in ten. It will still take you a few years to hit the jackpot, but sooner or later you will. The first time sea ice drops below the million square km benchmark we'll be looking at an extreme weather event (hitting the lottery) on top of a long term climate trend (raising the lottery payoff odds). Nobody can say when that will happen, but the odds are unquestionably shifting. IPCC "middle of the road" models predict the first such event will likely come in the 2040s, but that's a statistical estimate. Even after we have our first "ice free" (< 10^6 km^2) year, that doesn't mean every year or even most years will be ice free, because that first year is going to be an outlier.
Don't be fooled by people who cherry pick a prior outlier like 2007 and say "Sea ice hasn't declined in 10 years!", or who conflate antarctic winter sea ice trends with arctic summer sea ice. The polar regions are changing.
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To my knowledge, no mainstream model has ever predicted that the South Pole would be ice free in our lifetimes. /. will be the least of our problems. East and west coast of the US (the centers of internet, e-comerce etc.) won't exist any longer. Basically 90% of what is inhabitated at the moment by people will be under the sea.
If the antarctic ice melts (or slides into the ocean) during my remaining lifetime (30 - 50 years, give or take): posts by idiots on
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Drill Into 3,500 Feet of Ice (Score:1)
Does that hurt? Nah, they're frozen.
Precautions (Score:5, Interesting)
"A secondary borehole that acts as a well, its water back-pumped into the main hole after being filtered and sterilized, was started a night earlier, Priscu told Earther"
I'm glad they had the foresight to sterilize the water that would ultimately mix with the lake. Not doing so would have been just plain sad and stupid. (and counterproductive, if the goal was really to survey what was down there and *only* what was down there.)
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How much contamination (Score:3, Interesting)
Lake Mercer is 64 miles wide, more than 30 feet deep. I think whatever small amount of sterilized water (melted from antarctic ice mind!) makes it in from the borehole is not going to have much of an effect...
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The flat-earth lobby has opposed these Antarctic lake boring projects for years, because in their eyes human curiosity is akin to how we view genocide. Actual genocide is something they favor, because "Team Rainbow 6" considers humanity to be an infection that should be killed off to preserve the sacredness of Nature (which they don't consider us to be a part of).
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I don't know man, have you seen the movie "Life"? It doesn't take much more than a single organism to murder a whole lot of scientists and take over a planet.
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I don't know man, have you seen the movie "Life"?
Those Hollyweird kooks - making a movie about breakfast cereal.
It would have been better if they made "Captain Crunch, the Early Years".
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Sam - The Story of a Broken Toucan.
Bollywood is making their own version, as they believe toucan play that game.
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That's not how it works, it only takes one single bacterium from outside the lake, to make it into the lake, and start multiplying over a period of time that just happens to be capable of killing off the primitive life in the lake to prevent us ever really discovering what was down there.
This isn't a dilution thing where the danger is the risk of some small amount of chemical entering the lake that's diluted so much that it doesn't matter, life can replicate, grow, and spread, and if something gets in that
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That's not how it works, it only takes one single bacterium from outside the lake
The water is sterilized. That is not the issue under discussion. What I responded to was:
the water down there had a different isotopic mix from current surface water.
The issue was potentially affecting THAT, which you can plainly see the lake has way too large a volume to be affected in any meaningful way.
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Ah, apologies, thwarted by Slashdot's shitty threading system where the AC post in the middle was hidden :)
First one was Lake Vostok (Score:5, Informative)
I remember I had really high hopes only to be utterly disappointed. There was no real insight into prokaryotic science from the effects of such long ecosystem separation.
I again have really high hopes with this one. Mercer Lake does not even have a bloody Wiki page. [RAGE].
I predict that I will be utterly disappointed.
Lake Vostok isolation time:
Mercer Lake information:
Lake Vostok is much larger:
Good luck, colleagues.
Re:First one was Lake Vostok (Score:5, Insightful)
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Why are you unable to spell H.P. Lovecraft?
I've heard this before (Score:4, Funny)
Sounds like the plot of a Syfy movie. Scientists dig a hole, unleash a long-dormant virus that kills half of humanity until Tara Reid comes in and saves the day while saying a bunch of really long and meaningless but technical sounding words that she can barely pronounce.
And then a shark flies in from behind and is about to eat her when the screen cuts to black.
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Well my immediate thought was not so much killer sharks as it was another movie. Remember this one, they find something under the ice in Antarctica, a bunch of scientists go there to check it out and start drilling. A day later it's magically finished despite them not doing the drilling. Then aliens and predators have a fight and all the scientists die.
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And then a shark flies in from behind and is about to eat her when the screen cuts to black. ... got the camera man.
That is because the other shark, or was it a reptile
I wonder how they managed to get it into the cinema, though ... perhaps via a cloud?
Ahh yes (Score:3)
must be a surfer in the mix (Score:3)
bitchin' bro!! check out this sample
gnarly!!!
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Bottle it and sell it (Score:2)
Scientists attack Antarctica! (Score:2)
I can't wait to see Antarctica's counter attack.
I guess it's interesting to possibly find something out from this ancient lake. And I realize this is different science. But it seems odd to be talking about global warming and ice melting, then we go drill deep into Antarctica with a hot water drill. I understand it's barely anything. It still just kind of makes me go: "Huh," for a second when I read it.
I'd hope we could find something interesting. But from another comment on here, it sounds like we foun