Follow Slashdot stories on Twitter

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
The Almighty Buck Businesses United States

Tim Draper, One of Theranos' First Investors, Says He Would Back Elizabeth Holmes Again as Chief Science Officer (theoutline.com) 120

An anonymous reader shares a report: Despite all her alleged crimes, Elizabeth Holmes, the former CEO of the biotech company Theranos, can rest assured she still has someone who'll go to bat for her. At a panel discussion on growing startup ecosystems at the Montgomery Summit yesterday, Bloomberg reporter Sarah McBride asked Tim Draper -- a venture capitalist, enthusiastic Bitcoin supporter, and one of Theranos' first investors -- whether he would back Holmes again. Draper responded to the question by saying, "I'd back her as chief science officer, not CEO. Good question."
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

Tim Draper, One of Theranos' First Investors, Says He Would Back Elizabeth Holmes Again as Chief Science Officer

Comments Filter:
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:51PM (#58240164)
    wish I could say the same about my class.
    • That's all fine for a monarchy, if you want a monarchy.
      Wasan't the founding of the U.S.A. concerned about turning away from such a system and its class system.
      Before the U.S.A. school system was federalized they often demonstrated that ANYONE could move in or out of the political system.
      Now we're taught that only a magical 'ruling class' has the ability to lead. Wow.
      Now we're taught in Martin Luther King High School to judge based on skin colour, not the content of someone's skin colour.
      Now I'm off to my re

      • And thanks to recent changes to tax law that percentage is increasing. We're not too far off from Monarchy as is.
      • Wasan't the founding of the U.S.A. concerned about turning away from such a system and its class system.

        It was more about keeping slavery and being able to tear up British treaties with the natives that were stopping colonial expansion. The 'founding fathers' were all rich slave owners who wanted to keep their privileges, they didn't even let ordinary people vote.

  • by tomhath ( 637240 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @06:53PM (#58240174)
    In other words, he only cares about making money. Putting people in danger isn't a concern.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      No no, I'm sure he's just expecting to run the corporation like Republican leadership has shown : The Chief Science Officer is an entirely HONORARY position, predictably to fudge the numbers in favor of business. GOP Capitalism, baby.

      No rules.

    • Well, I think with his logic he only cares about losing money.

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:12PM (#58240280)

      From all reports Holmes was a fairly brilliant CEO (she could convince people to give her lots of money) and completely hopeless at the actual science. If you actually wanted to make money you'd think you'd want to switch the roles: make her CEO and appoint a CSO that reported independently directly to the board.

      • From all reports Holmes was a fairly brilliant CEO (she could convince people to give her lots of money)

        OK but fundraising is only brilliant for CEOs of charitable organizations and early startups. And you seem to have not heard the part about the corporate jet and the huge mansion paid for by the company. The wild spending kind of cuts back on the usefulness of fundraising ability.

        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

          Everybody wants to be a startup these days. Particularly one that goes from zero to 9 billion in a few years. Nobody cares about wild parties, mansions and jets.

          Now, with a brilliant CEO like Holmes you need to pay some attention to your exit strategy, thus the independent CSO. Your guy on the inside, who is not an undergraduate dropout, says things are about to blow, so you make your exit. Modern business at it's finest.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        a fairly brilliant CEO (she could convince people to give her lots of money)

        That makes her a brilliant CON ARTIST! A brilliant CEO can direct a company and develop a strategic plan that will enable it to succeed in the future. Unfortunately, I can not think of any contemporary CEOs off of the top of my head that fit that description.

      • by AntronArgaiv ( 4043705 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:52PM (#58240498)

        The woman spent two or three semesters at Stanford, then decided she knew all she needed to know.

        I wouldn't trust her to science her way out of a paper bag.
        When I graduated I knew just enough engineering to know what I didn't know. And that's after getting a Masters. I learned a lot more on the job, by watching more experienced people and asking questions. Something I doubt Miss Know-it-all has ever done.

        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:59PM (#58240526)

          While reading your post I got to "when I graduated I knew just enough engineering to know what I didn't know" and was just about to tell you that you must have been an unusually gifted undergraduate.

          When you come out of undergrad you think you know everything. Grad school teaches you that you really don't know anything. A postdoc teaches you that nobody else does either.

          • I work with engineering faculty, grad students, and post docs every day. The majority of them seem to think they’re experts in every field - including stuff like graphic design, sales, and interpersonal relationships.

            The ones who don’t think that way, though, are what occasionally makes academia the greatest work environment in the world.

            • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

              Send 'em to me. I specialize in convincing physicians that they aren't actually demigods. Some of them actually turn out fairly well, once they realize that a mere PhD might know a few things they didn't learn in that six month research fellowship they did.

          • Then the faculty job teaches you that it doesn't really matter because you're going to spend the rest of your career going paperwork.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          When I graduated I knew just enough engineering to know what I didn't know. And that's after getting a Masters. I learned a lot more on the job, by watching more experienced people and asking questions.

          I don't doubt you learned a lot after graduating, but consider this perspective. You spent your time in school learning how to learn. You gathered knowledge and skills to prepare for life after graduation, without necessarily knowing how to put it all together. Doing the latter is a continuing exercise that spans a lifetime.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          But she *identifies* as a scientist! Science is about spectrums, so she can choose where she is on the spectrum/ Any objection to this is science-phobic and anti-science!

      • by gravewax ( 4772409 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:55PM (#58240504)
        A brilliant CEO doesn't commit blatant fraud that leads to the destruction of their company. She was a brilliant conman.
        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

          Dunno... a good proportion of the highest paid CEOs seem to do exactly that. Maybe the fraud is a little more on the down low in most cases. I keep hearing how the highest paid CEOs are paid that much because they're the best.

          • No they are much more careful about it, usually keeping it in the grey areas of the law to keep themselves out of the shit. She completely failed at doing that, publicity plus poor management and blatant lies that can't be brushed away made her a fucking awful CEO.
        • A brilliant CEO doesn't commit blatant fraud that leads to the destruction of their company. She was a brilliant conman.

          Next thing you know, she'll buy and bankrupt a few casinos and be the next Republican President of the US ... no, never mind, we're not *that* stupid.

        • Maybe a friend will give Mr. Draper a copy of this book [amazon.com]

          If fraud is ever detected at any Draper backed company from now on, investigators will reference his interview with Sarah McBride. A lot of financiers read Bloomberg. A cold chill just blew through Wall Street.
      • Some of what was reported about her behavior seems so over-the-top that it's hard to believe. Letting the dog run around in the lab? What the hell, she should never be allowed within 100 miles of anything important.

      • They'll fix that on the next pass. I hear they're tweaking the retrovirus on the cloning tank and v.2 will be ready to present venture pitches sometime early fall, with improved science experience and slighly bigger eyes.

        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

          Ha ha, bravo. Not only did you detect the dripping sarcasm in my post, you one-upped it. V.2 still prefers black turtlenecks I hope?

      • From all reports Holmes was a fairly brilliant CEO (she could convince people to give her lots of money)

        That's not a brilliant CEO. That's a con artist.

      • Comment removed based on user account deletion
        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

          I was curious whether you're correct. Wikipedia says Ponzi took his "investors" for $20 million in 1920, and Holmes took hers for $700 million in 2013. Ponzi's take in 2013 dollars would be about $233 million. Presumably Holmes had some actual operating expenses to make the thing look good, but CEOs like to talk about revenue as if it was profit, so I think it's fair to say that by CEO-quality metrics Holmes out-Ponzied Ponzi.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Sounds very American to me.

    • Isn't this how VC funding works: Pure RoI from whatever's in fashion at the moment & nothing else matters? I'm not at all surprised by this story. In fact, I'd bet even if Draper had moral objections to Holmes' prior conduct, he wouldn't be able to say them out loud, let alone to the press, for fear of being ostracised in the world of start-up financing.
    • I've met Draper personally, had a couple of conversations with him. I think his problem is not ethics. It's basically medical.

      His mental picture of the world is very different from everyone else's: in his world anything he wants to be true is true. He wants Holmes to be a prosecuted genius and in his world she is. Then he acts on this fact.

      When people praise or attack him for what he says it just feels misplaced. He needs help.

    • No. If he cared about money then as an investor he wouldn't back bankruptcy a second time. The real conclusion you can draw from this: "Man with crap judgement declares his judgement remains crap after being burned."

  • by SmaryJerry ( 2759091 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:02PM (#58240236)
    How could you ever trust her to tell the truth on her research again?
  • This guy is all in for Bitcoin as well even after it's big drop. I just think he can't accept that he's not the Master of the Universe and his judgement is not infallible.

    • He just really really really really wants to fuck her.

      Everybody's been there, usually not THAT expensive.

      • by Jarwulf ( 530523 )
        Can you blame him? She's not that shabby looking especially when she was younger. Drop the fake man act ie talk in her real voice (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lp73GNqxE 55 second mark) get some makeup on and ditch the steve jobs outfit and make me forget she's a psychopath and she's quite conventionally attractive.
  • Excellent example.

  • by real gumby ( 11516 ) on Friday March 08, 2019 @07:29PM (#58240380)

    Holmes is a childhood friend of his daughter's, or daughter of his childhood friend or something like that, so he has known her all her life. I can't see how she could have been funded any other way.

    Though this is america where people don't give jobs or security clearences or such to their relatives and friends.

  • Shoot him now! Shoot him now!

  • Lets not mentions this today. It's counter to the propaganda you know.
  • That man has something to hide.

  • webroot com safe – With the development of the digital world, online protection is crucial. It is extremely important to protect your PCs, Mac, computers as well as mobile devices and tablets with webroot com safe. http://www.safe-webroot.com/ [safe-webroot.com]
  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday March 09, 2019 @10:36AM (#58242394)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

Dynamically binding, you realize the magic. Statically binding, you see only the hierarchy.

Working...