Western Allies Agree 5G Security Guidelines, Warn of Outside Influence (reuters.com) 87
Global security officials agreed a set of proposals on Friday for future 5G networks, highlighting concerns about equipment supplied by vendors that might be subject to state influence. From a report: No suppliers were named, but the United States has been pressing allies to limit the role of Chinese telecom equipment makers such as Huawei over concerns their gear could be used by Beijing for spying. Huawei denies this. "The overall risk of influence on a supplier by a third country should be taken into account," participants at the conference in the Czech capital said in a non-binding statement released on the last day of the two-day gathering. Representatives from 30 European Union, NATO and countries such as the United States, Germany, Japan and Australia attended the meeting to hash out an outline of practices that could form a coordinated approach to shared security and policy measures.
Don't worry (Score:1)
The new 5G networks will be five eye... I mean 30 eyes approved for convenient spying, but think of the children!!11
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FWIW, if the statement in the summary is an accurate translation, it could easily be applied to any company that could be subject to a NSA letter. There's no reason they should only consider China an actor who can act as a state to influence corporate designs.
Re:Best part of 5g.. (Score:5, Informative)
It is impossible to prove that something is safe. You can run a million tests which all show it to be safe, and the nay-sayers will come back with "but you didn't test it when people are hopping on one foot while chewing gum and patting their heat." Consequently, combined with our understanding of physics saying that these signals are safe, we operate under the assumption that they are safe unless proven otherwise. The onus is upon those claiming that they're dangerous to fund studies to prove that they're dangerous. Not for us to hold back every single technology which uses sub-petahertz frequencies for fear there might be some unforeseen danger lurking in them.
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* Clear evidence of tumors in the hearts of male rats
* Some evidence of tumors in the brains of male rats
* Some evidence of tumors in the adrenal glands of male rats
For female rats, and male and female mice, it was unclear, also known as equivocal, whether cancers observed in the studies were associated with exposure to RFR.
The findings in animals cannot be directly applied to humans.
The $30 million NTP studies took more tha
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They also found longer lifespans for male rats exposed to any level of RF, compared to the control group. Cancer is often linked with age. The study itself is here [biorxiv.org] for anyone that wants to look at it directly rather than at a summary.
Note they used 1.5-6 watts/kg, and even the bottom end of that would be 75 watts for a 50kg human. This is one of the reasons that study can't be directly applied to human use of RF -- if your cell phone used 75 watts it would have a battery life of a couple of minutes (and the
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You missed the part of the report that said "NTP studies of RFR used in 2G and 3G cell phones do not apply to 4G or 5G technologies."
True, however from the comment "... 5g operates at ... All are far, far below the petahertz lower frequency limit of ionizing radiation ..." - the same as 3/4G, "... Consequently, to the best of our understanding of physics, all 5g signals can do is heat things up a little ..." - the same as 3/4G, as the reason of this 3/4G results is not know at the moment, it is speculated that it's caused by this mentioned "tissue heating".
My point was that there is a comprehensive study about 3/4G and that there are en
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.. is how there are a bunch of anecdotal stories of health affects that, at least, deserve more investigation.
There's anecdotal evidence that some dude walked on water, healed people, and then rose from the dead after 3 days. But sure waste your time investigating crackpot anecdotes of something that isn't possible given our significant understanding of physics and biology.
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I was just about to ask: is Cisco listed right next to Huawei? They should be.
But who'll defend the West against the..West? (Score:4, Interesting)
Sinister secret backdoor found in networking gear perfect for government espionage: The Chinese are – oh no, wait, it's Cisco again [theregister.co.uk]
US tech giant Cisco has issued a free fix for software running on its Nexus 9000 series machines that can be exploited to log in as root and hijack the device for further mischief and eavesdropping. A miscreant just needs to be able to reach the vulnerable box via IPv6. It's due to a default SSH key pair hardcoded into the software...
It's one of 40-odd security patches Cisco emitted on Wednesday, fixing all sorts of holes from privilege escalation flaws to denial-of-service weaknesses in its products. And it's not the first time Cisco's had to patch over security shortcomings in its gear.
40 security patches by Cisco and the US and other West gov are losing their minds over the fact that Telnet was enabled in Huawei, home routers some 7 years ago?
But it's only bad when China does it. (Score:1)
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What's the big deal with 5G? (Score:5, Interesting)
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The ability to track every worker at a US base in a 5 eye nation as they arrive, exit the base.
The bus, fight, drive to a base. The car, bus, flight, drive after work at the base. All staff with a smartphone just off base that then needs a network.
Their entire set of movements off base in a 5 eye nation.
Where they party, read, relax, shop, eat, do sport, attempt to socialize, who they are allowed to be friends with in the nation.
Areas US mil/gov/contractors in a 5
Keep an eye on this usual suspect (Score:2)
USA must be locked out of the deals entirely (Score:1)
it has been proven time and again that their hardware and software is compromised, and that they have engaged in espionage and sabotage in European networks.
China should not be trusted (Score:1)
Cisco is the only company that is to be trust. Very secure!
Is US supplied gear any better? (Score:2)
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Wouls these guidelines have prevented ... (Score:2)