India's Sixth Biggest City Is Almost Entirely Out of Water 264
Millions of people are running out of water in Chennai, India's sixth largest city. The Chembarambakkam reservoir and the three other reservoirs that have traditionally supplied Chennai are nearly all dry, leaving the city suffering from an acute water shortage. CNN reports: Due to an inability to collect sufficient rain water combined with low groundwater levels, the Tamil Nadu state government has been struggling to provide water to residents. With the reservoirs dry, water is being brought directly into Chennai neighborhoods in trucks. Every day, hundreds of thousands of residents have no choice but to stand in line for hours in soaring summer temperatures, filling dozens of cans and plastic containers. With supplies strictly rationed, many wealthier families have taken to relying on expensive private water tankers. Although the municipal body has worked to prioritize low-income households, residents who book government water tankers could still wait up to a month. It's not immediately clear how many are without water in Chennai presently.
Population size (Score:4, Insightful)
Its about time the indian government started to do something about the rampant population growth in its country as its soon about to overtake china as the most populous country. Not only does overpopulation mean problems such as this when resources become scarce but its also devastating to the enviroment and wildlife. Unfortunately they seem to be still stuck in the victorian mindset that the more kids the better.
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Its about time the indian government started to do something about the rampant population growth
Looks like they are doing just that.
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Yup, Indian politicians don't give toss about ordinary folks. To the upper casts, the lower casts are subhuman. If the lower casts starve or die of thirst or disease, it is their own fault due to bad behaviour in a previous life. The Hindu system is conveniently cruel - convenient for the rulers - not so great for the suffering masses.
Re: Population size (Score:2)
The original caste system was a horizontal hierarchical structure, classified by occupatione.g.ironsmiths, traders, etc passed down through generations.
What you are spouting about is an aberation, a distortion (driven partly by the human tendency to oppress the weaker) also propagandazied (if thats a word) by invading Christian missionaries and British/European colonists.
As far as I can tell, the vertical western socio economic structure is as oppressive, the poor get ad badly trodden on by the wealthy.
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Re: Population size (Score:2)
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"Its about time the indian government started to do something about the rampant population growth in its country as its soon about to overtake china as the most populous country."
What do you suggest?
Forced sterilizations?
1 Child policy with Concentration Camps for Violators?
Culling the lower classes?
"Not only does overpopulation mean problems such as this when resources become scarce but its also devastating to the enviroment and wildlife. Unfortunately they seem to be still stuck in the victorian m
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"Its about time the indian government started to do something about the rampant population growth in its country as its soon about to overtake china as the most populous country."
What do you suggest?
In his novel "The Wanting Seed", Anthony Burgess described a society where the one-child policy was rigidly enforced - Dog help anyone who had twins or triplets -, where homosexuality was the social norm, and everybody lived on the edge of starvation because of failing crops. Odd book, and worth a read.
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India already had and still has forced sterilization programs. [wikipedia.org]
The only difference is that they've switched from rounding up men in the streets back in the '70s to mass sterilizations of women today.
It took years of court battles to finally get sterilization camps to START CLOSING. Back in 2016. [theguardian.com]
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Unfortunately they seem to be still stuck in the victorian mindset that the more kids the better.
One of the side-effects of religion. They always try to grow from the insides, because then the new followers get indoctrinated for free. And religious leaders do not care whether they kills a lot of people that way, after all their cause is by definition "good" and "sanctified by God", so whatever they do is justified.
In actual reality, getting global population growth to zero pretty soon is a critical factor for the long-term survival of humanity. Hence if they produce a few million dead here that would a
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Fertility rates in most of the world (except Africa) are already near or below replacement [wikipedia.org], so this is not really a concern. In Africa too they are dropping steadily, though at a ~40 year delay relative to other parts of the world.
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India as well? I thought they still needed a while to get there. That page says 2.3, that is progress. But it needs to be below replacement for a while to stabilize things. Still, it seems the human race is finally getting that mess under control.
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India is about to have serious population issues.
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They've already "done something". India's fertility rate has fallen to 2.3 [wikipedia.org] and is still falling steadily. Replacement fertility for the world is 2.33 [wikipedia.org] (not 2.1 or 2.0 because some people die before reaching reproductive age - the poorer the country the more such people). So India is currently right around replacement fertility. If it's not at sub-replacement already, it will be in a couple years. This means that in the long term its population will shrink not rise. Nothing more is needed to be done.
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Feel free to point out where I said that. Oh, thats right, I didn't, you just decided to have a little virtue signalling rant regardless. No wonder you posted AC, too embarrased to use your account name?
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You don't seem to be aware that capitalism and consumerism is the problem, not population
The bad effects come from multiplication of population with their consumption.
You didn't show any empathy for their situation, nor did you provide any solutions
Empathy doesn't solve problems. Solution is having fewer people.
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If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem, in this case literally. So go on, either kill other people or kill yourself.
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So go on, either kill other people or kill yourself.
...or take measure to reduce birth rate. Killing myself would be an attractive option, but will only make the problem worse by getting rid of people who are advocating for less enthusiastic population growth.
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That job can be done by a small shell script so go ahead.
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WTF is this gibberish? If this is the kind of thinking that passes for a "college education" these days, we're all fucking doomed.
Empathy doesn't "allows you to implement solutions that will actually work." Reason and logic are the path to proper solutions.
Get your head out of your ass and stop sniffing your own farts.
Re: Population size (Score:1, Insightful)
Consumption is not directly related to population, so population control is not the whole answer. 5 Americans don't use the same resources compared to 5 people in India.
No, but ten people in India use more resources than five people in India. Are you really trying to claim that the number of people concentrated into one area has no impact on the resources needed?
Empathy DOES solve problems, as it allows you to implement solutions that will actually work, rather than "ivory tower" solutions, that are simplistic and destined to fail.
No, empathy does NOT solve problems. You can empathize till the cows come home, but that wonâ(TM)t put a sandwich in the hands of a starving child.
Empathy is nothing more than sincere virtue signaling.
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Consumption is not directly related to population, so population control is not the whole answer. 5 Americans don't use the same resources compared to 5 people in India.
So what's your solution ? Have the people in India (or Chennai in this case) consume less water ?
Empathy DOES solve problems, as it allows you to implement solutions that will actually work
The set of emphatic solutions is a strict subset of all solutions, so your statement makes no sense. And the subset is not based on effectivity, but on emotion.
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I'm not the original poster at all...but let me point out something.
Blaming the Indian government for its poor planning isn't blaming the victims. Its a critique of the policies of the Indian government.
That's your own opinion, the original poster's opinion was that its population growth. He's not ignoring it, h
Re: Population size (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, I'm not the GP but the Victorian mindset has nothing to do with it. For most of human history, your kids were your ticket through old age. Poor countries tend to have higher birth rates. Also in poor countries, infant mortality is greater so parents generate more kids to compensate.
The only reason India is overtaking China is because of China's (now abandoned) One Child Policy...that is if you weren't high up in the Communist Party. That generated an entire several generations of only one child for the proles. Now they are trying to reverse that slightly.
India does need to reverse their reproduction a bit, but I doubt they have the ability to do what China did. I don't see any outside factors that will force it on them. In a way, they are in somewhat of a spiral downward. As living gets harder, couples generate more kids to compensate as a buffer against running out of support in old age.
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Well, I'm not the GP but the Victorian mindset has nothing to do with it. For most of human history, your kids were your ticket through old age. Poor countries tend to have higher birth rates. Also in poor countries, infant mortality is greater so parents generate more kids to compensate.
/me thinks that's just a myth, and that the real reason is that people have kids because they get horny and have sex.
Re: Population size (Score:5, Insightful)
When women are educated and have access to birth control, there's a tendency to be horny, have sex and not have so many children.
Works in most cultures. Unluckily there are too many cultures where the women are kept uneducated and don't have access to birth control, often based on religion.
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And that is exactly is. And whenever you find mass-death or mass-murder, religion (or quasi-religion) is closely involved...
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I'm talking educated by 3rd world standards, grade 10-12.
Big families produce the next generation (Score:2)
Exactly.
We live in a bubble, during which contraception interrupted the link between sex and babies. But in time Nature will sort that out.
People with larger families tend to produce children that have larger families. Over time that tendency will win.
Your current instincts are that living well is more important than having a large family. That is wrong, and will be corrected eventually.
If the robots do not finish us off first.
Re: Population size (Score:2)
I don't see any outside factors that will force it on them. In a way,
Hell, if Monsanto isn't subtly tweaking their Franken-helixes to address that they're even dumber thanbwe thought. :/
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Clearly you're talking from the point of ZERO knowledge about India's history of forced sterilization [wikipedia.org] or its continuing sterilization [bbc.com] programs.
It took a supreme court decision to order closing of literal sterilization camps. In 2016. [theguardian.com] Over a period of three years.
It happened in a classroom, on the desks of the village school. It was dark, so the doctor operated on the women by torchlight. The procedure only took two minutes; many women did not even know that they had been permanently sterilised.
That Saturday night, in January 2012, 53 women from the village of Kaparfora in the northern Indian state of Bihar had tubectomies over a period of two hours, under the supervision of a local NGO. The school desks where the operations took place were never disinfected; the doctor never changed his gloves, and the medicines were past their use-by dates, violating a number of government guidelines. After the operations, the doctor left the school, ignoring the wails of the bleeding women in the classroom.
Devika Biswas, a health activist from the region, who visited Kaparfora a month after the event on a fact-finding mission, says she was âoeaghastâ at the conditions she saw. "I was feeling so bad. I thought, is this my country? Not a single woman was screened to see if there would be any complications. One of the women who was sterilised was actually three months pregnant, and she ended up miscarrying her baby. I mean, they were just butchering women."
Barpanda has further stories of atrocities during the sterilisation drives around the country. "In Orissa, they used bicycle pumps in the operations because the doctors did not have up-to-date medical equipment," she says. "In Himachal Pradesh, one doctor did five surgeries and then passed out drunk halfway through the sixth. In Malda, in West Bengal, they had no beds for the women, so they had to lie out on the ground, in the cold after the operations," says Barpanda. "Almost every state was reporting violations of the governmentâ(TM)s sterilisation guidelines."
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India is indeed accelerating as the wall for the eventual crash is already in sight. It is fascinating to watch this slow-motion catastrophe, in particular as it comes with absolutely zero surprise value.
Re: Population size (Score:5, Insightful)
Not all support need to be fiscal. I'm not sure if you're aware, but when humans become elderly, they tend to become more frail, have more health problems and generally start needing more assistance with parts of daily life in general. Having more kids to help take for you in your old age is good planning.
Re: Population size (Score:1, Interesting)
Um, no? Imagine throwing away all your time and money to raise kids when youâ(TM)re young enough to go anywhere and do anything, for the off chance that theyâ(TM)ll take care of you when youâ(TM)re too old to take care of yourself.
Hint, the money you spend raising kids, invested, will pay for any care you need many times over. A good plan is to go enjoy your life to the fullest; if having kids is your life dream, then by all means. If it is merely a hedge against the future, then you are a
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Voting this down, because I have kids and don't want to confront my bad life choices.
Re: Population size (Score:3)
This isn't true in MOST parts of the world. Parents provide support for the first and second child. And they normally have help from uncles, aunts, & GPs. Up to pretty much 8 years of age. After that, the child provides a net support to the family by doing labor work by farming, selling, checkout, cleaning, cooking, teaching, or helping to raise their siblings or take care of GPS. It's not unusual to see a 10 year old giving his grandma a medication shot. Or an 8 year old helping fetch a store item o
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Having more kids to help take for you in your old age is good planning.
Well, this, or, you could bring more Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n Roll in your life: live fast, die young, never change diapers.
Re: Population size (Score:2)
Fuck you for thinking drinking starbucks latted makes you high and mighty and capable of judging others.
Hey look what I just did, but I aint bo corporate shill making a commission off ignorant flaming and blatant advertising.
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The way I look at it is that there IS water in China. Now the problem is getting the water to the Indian people. However, better than bringing the water from China to India, it would be better to bring the Indians to the water in China. Encourage migration to China. Not only will the Indians get free water from the socialist regime, they will get jobs and free medical care and all kinds of free stuff from the socialist paradise which is China.
Re: Will China want Indians? (Score:2)
I am a polite Indian (American) and beg to differ. Thank you for not judging and painting the entire country with your humongous paintbrush.
Live Long and Prosper.
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Rain has never come as usual ... they've always had huge swings in rainfall year to year.
Their rain isn't getting less, it isn't getting more extreme. Their population is simply outstripping their groundwater's finite ability to even it out. Building huge reservoirs would be able to stave of the inevitable for a while, but in the end the 20 year population doubling will have to end.
When fertility stays high Malthus will triumph eventually.
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India's fertility rate has fallen to 2.3 [wikipedia.org] and is still falling steadily. Replacement fertility for the world is 2.33 [wikipedia.org]. So India will soon have sub-replacement fertility, and in the long term the population is set to shrink.
Re: They saw this problem coming (Score:3)
Please back up your claim that the climate is the problem - like, for instance has rainfall in the region been steady, declined, or increased as population in the region increased?
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I can't do that, but I can do it the other way around. Here's an old blog from during their floods a couple of years ago, showing that their rain is increasing a bit and has always had wild 200% swings :
http://www.vantage-research.ne... [vantage-research.net]
Here's the opinion of a local metrologist :
http://www.newindianexpress.co... [newindianexpress.com]
"Whether it's Cyclone Gaja or the Kerala floods, we can't link these events to climate change and global warming."
"Basically, the northeast monsoon is erratic and difficult to predict. We all expected
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Re: They saw this problem coming (Score:2)
This has been a problem for years, reagent heat waves are not having a serious impact on the problem.
They were delivering truckloads of water to buildings in India two years ago (see: https://www.wired.com/2017/05/... [wired.com] ) and for years before that.
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Re: They saw this problem coming (Score:2)
Rather than imagining causation that I never described, ponder the possibility of parallels between the two cities (rapid growth, over-population leading to drained aquifers...)
This is a predictable problem and it will repeat in other parts of India.
Re: Population size (Score:2)
I'm surprised India hasn't already started to use nuclear desalination there -- basically, using multiple closed-loop cooling systems to transfer waste heat to saltwater & turn it to steam, then collecting the condensate as fresh water. AFAIK, India has already done it at small scale for research.
It's not perfect... you end up with trace amounts of deuterium in the water. However, the amount is minimal (deuterium naturally exists in water anyway), and deuterium is pretty tame (low ionization energy, and
Re: Population size (Score:2)
The amount of additional deuterium present in nuclear-desalinated sea water is basically a rounding error compared to the amount that's present *anyway*.
At any moment in time, approximately 1-2 milliliters of water in an average person's body is actually heavy water (D2O) or semi-heavy water (HDO).
In any case, the amount of extra deuterium is still WAY below the limit for safe exposure. An average *banana* emits more beta radiation than a glass of nuclear-desalinated water.
For what it's worth, US aircraft c
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But they have a lot of sun in India, so just use sunlight to heat salt water, then condense the evaporation into drinkable water.
Re: Population size (Score:2)
Right. Coca-Cola corporation is draining the Aquifers of India bottling their product. Genius.
India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:4, Interesting)
India is a typical failed nation.
New Delhi wastes money on military satellites and nuclear weapons when most Indians live in poverty. By contrast, when Poland was an impoverished nation, Warsaw deliberately refused to spend money on military satellites and nuclear weapons; the Polish government spent most of its resources on economic development.
Today, India remains economically poor, but Poland is relatively wealthy.
Among the Russian elites, supporters of Vladimir Putin use India to justify rejecting democracy. They point to the poverty and poor governance in India. They recommend autocratic China as a model for Russian development.
Get more info [blogspot.com] about this issue.
Re:India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:5, Interesting)
Sheesh, using Poland is a bit silly. They were in the Warsaw Pact until it finally blew its bits in 1989, it was defunct by then since the other countries spiraled out of Moscow's orbit (Putin is trying to lasso them back in before Russia implodes from his ineptitude). After they emerged into the modern world, they had to concentrate on getting their economy on its feet. Spending money on the military would only have encouraged Moscow to play the same games it is playing in Ukraine. Ukraine and Byelarus were until recently lapdogs of Russia and they are right next door to Poland. Poland wasn't stupid enough to invite Putin's aggression.
Currently, Poland is in NATO, they are not about to go off on their own creating nukes.
That said, New Delhi does waste money on military satellites and nukes. However, they live in a dangerous part of the world. Pakistan is run by a bunch of insane Muslims. China periodically tries to steal bits of territory from India. Then there are the rest of the Stans in S. Asia.
India's biggest threat is their Hindu fanatics who are attempting to rewrite the history books to generate a Hindu golden age that they can all point back to when they need to justify their latest aggression. Those nutjobs are no better than the Muslim nutjobs running Pakistan.
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
Thats going a bit far, Hinduism is a 5000 year old religion, and perhaps the only inclusive one that accepts all religions as a step in the same direction. Even a staunch Hindu is more pluralistic and accepting of other faiths (look up the term if you dont know it). That cannot be said for your average plundering Muslim or missionary Christian, who tends to impose their belief on others.
Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Islam are the warmongering, plundering ones...political ideologies masquerad
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
Right after you explain slavery
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/cas... [lsu.edu]
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
Well? Did you go through the link I sent? Also I double confirmed with the copy of the US Constitution that I have that slavery was outlawed not 200 years ago but ratified on Dec 6 1865, in Amendment XII, Section 1, which is less than 200 that you stated.
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
Okay, stay put on your high horse.
Just remember, (and it has to be said) pride comes to a fall, perhaps sooner than you think.
I love India, and the good ole USA (my adopted motherland that adopted me too) and I hope jingostic yet empty pride in people like you, and the unwillingness to change for the better doesnt hurt the rest of the nation/planet when you fall off the high fuckin egotistic horse.
Spock out. Live Long and Prosper on your 3 legged horse.
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Gill, welcome to America and please don't think that a few narrow minded people reflect all of us.
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
Thank you, Live Long and Prosper.
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Poland only has money because they are by far the largest net recepient of the EU subsidies. And they do waste money, trief to build a bloody stealth tank a few years back.
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Poland only has money because they are by far the largest net recepient of the EU subsidies.
Well . . . maybe India could petition the EU to join . . . but that would be a bit of a stretch. The EU even balked with Turkey, which was 50/50 but now with an Islamist government, that is off the table.
What really helps Poland, is that they are next to relatively wealthy Germany. Any Pole can just hop on a train from Breslau (Wrocaw) to Frankfurt and stomp around looking for a job, all legal . If you go to a big construction site in Germany, you will probably hear more Polish than German.
India does n
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If they can build nukes, they can also build water pipes from the mountains to Chennai. They can recycle waste water. Live off 20 liters instead of 200.
This is a pseudo problem for Commies who want to justify their power grab.
You do know that the glaciers in the mountains are disappearing so not that good of a solution and that India is now extremely right wing, almost fascist and their right wing government just won the election hugely by the standard of starting a war sortof with Pakistan and declaring anyone not backing the military as unpatriotic.
Re: India is the Mexico of Asia (Score:2)
Mexico City's water problem is due to unplanned suburban growth after a major earthquake. It's faster & cheaper to build new homes on greenfield sites than it is to rebuild destroyed areas, so after a major disaster, you USUALLY see explosive growth in a former suburb, then years of gradual cleanup & redevelopment in the destroyed area.
Mexico City had plans to expand water & sewage lines to the area, but that takes decades of planning & construction... in an area that ended up with explosive
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India's economy has been growing at 7-8% [wikipedia.org] the last few years, one of the highest rates in the world. The tech economy is booming, and infrastructure is finally being built at a steady rate (i.e. Delhi has built one of the world's largest subway systems in the last 15 years). India started from a low point, but it is steadily making up for that. It's on the same growth curve as China, just delayed by 10-20 years.
that crown royal mindset (Score:1)
all the depopulationers have it.
3 Liters/Day+ Per Person (Score:3)
An entire family in one of Chennai's slums gets just 30-40 liters (about 8-10 gallons) of water every day,
Assuming an extended family of 10 people, that's ~1 gallon per person per day, for the 20% of the city's population living in the slums.
I dunno about you, but if I skip bathing, I could live off 1 gallon per day and be able to drink plenty enough to stay hydrated, and do a reasonable amount of cooking (maybe skipping the soup or the stockpot). Some water-dependent businesses like hotels and restaurants are in trouble, but it's survivable (for now at least.)
Water mismanagement and climate change are blamed by the article.
Re:3 Liters/Day+ Per Person (Score:5, Informative)
"I dunno about you, but if I skip bathing, I could live off 1 gallon per day and be able to drink plenty enough to stay hydrated, and do a reasonable amount of cooking (maybe skipping the soup or the stockpot). Some water-dependent businesses like hotels and restaurants are in trouble, but it's survivable (for now at least.)"
I guess you also don't wash your clothes and go piss and shit in the street.
I guess you imagine yourself with grilled steak and an ice-cold Perrier and a good reason not to eat vegetables.
Most of them are vegetarian, soup and stock and curries are what they do.
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And let's not forget that the weather in Chennai is 105F at 99% humidity. So skipping bathing, clothe washing, or dish washing is not really an option.
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It's as hot as fuck there. I can drink a gallon of water when the temperature is only in the high 20'sC, in the 40'sC, I'd likely drink a couple of gallons.
It's also nice to have a bit to rinse the sweat off when the temps are so high.
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This is going to kill a lot of people (Score:5, Interesting)
I suspect the reason the Indian government is reluctant to give out numbers of those afflicted by the water shortage is that they're keenly aware many of them are going to die. Chennai is pretty huge, with a population of 4,6 million people and according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] 'bout 29 % of those people are living in slums. That's about 1,3 million people living in abject poverty. Let's do some rough math here. The temperatures in Chennai routinely exceed 30 Celsius (86 Fahrenheit) during summer. At those temperatures people need at least 2 liters (half a gallon) of water a day, likely more, but let's go with that for now.
2 * 1,3 million = 2,6 million liters (or 680 000 gallons) a day just for the poorest in the city. Google tells me that the capacity of water tanker ranges from 20 000 L to 40 000 L (5500 to 11 600 gallons). Let's be generous here and go with the upper limit of 40 000 L. That's 65 tankers each and every day just to meet the bare minimum for the poorest in the city. The actual number of trucks needed to supply the whole city is 3-4 times that, probably more seeing as many of the trucks are likely smaller, and this is not even accounting for any of the industrial or agricultural operations that also need water to function, so in actuality the need is much, much higher.
When you factor in the chaos going on in Indian cities of this size daily with traffic, the logistical puzzle that needs to be solved here to avoid mass deaths due to dehydration is massive. The Indian army may be able to provide the basic logistics needed for the supply chain and distribution, but I have no idea how far the water needs to be hauled from. Every mile increases the costs, and I have no idea how much money the Indian government is able or willing to allocate to the project.
As the climate heats up, these kinds of situations are going to become more and more common, especially closer to the equator. The old saying goes that any society is 2 meals and 24 hours away from anarchy, but with water, the fuse is even shorter.
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Indian railways are pretty extensive. I wonder if they could transport water into the city centre that way?
"The old saying goes that any society is 2 meals and 24 hours away from anarchy, but with water, the fuse is even shorter."
Probably true but ultimately irrelevant as - unlike with a lack of food - the anarchy would be very short lived as most people die within a few days without water and in the indian heat probably far less time so there would be a day or 2 of rioting then silence.
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People would block the line and steal the water before it reached It's destination.
It is time for a Bollywood remake of The Road Warrior.
Re:This is going to kill a lot of people (Score:5, Insightful)
Sewage normally uses considerable amounts of water, even if much of it need not be drinkable. Failing sewage in a high pupulation density area is a health disaster ready to kill thousands if not millions.
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> As the climate heats up, these kinds of situations are going to become more and more common, especially closer to the equator.
Sorry, no. I know it's bad for the apocalypse mythology of Environmentalism but Antarctica is under 2 miles of freshwater ice and the Sahara has become a desert, when it was recently a jungle, under the "cool Earth" regime.
We are suffering from a Dry Earth because of the cold. Go back to the Jurassic when CO2 was 3500ppm and most of the planet was covered in thick, lus
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We are suffering from a Dry Earth because of the cold. Go back to the Jurassic when CO2 was 3500ppm and most of the planet was covered in thick, lush jungles.
Ever tried to live in the jungle? Or a rainforest? It's moldy. Also, 3500 ppm is way more than enough CO2 to cause negative health effects. Even 1000 ppm is enough to affect your ability to think [thinkprogress.org].
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That study is almost certainly complete bollocks.
So provide better numbers instead of crying.
Hopefully nobody points out that the human body (Score:2)
is about 60% water.
Re:Hopefully nobody points out that the human body (Score:4, Funny)
Soylent Water is people!
Is it a choice? (Score:5, Insightful)
Industry still operational? (Score:2, Interesting)
The very first thing that needs to happen is to shutdown non-essential industry as manufacturing uses lots of water.
People donâ(TM)t need to work - they need food and water. They need to conserve their energy and water consumption.
Next, go to the companies that are using the water and deep wells and commandeer their water supplies as this is a National emergency if they havenâ(TM)t done so already.
Coke and Pepsi know you need customers to sell their products to. And, gouging the population will n
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Thank you. I wasn't trolling.
I suspect someone got bent out of shape because I suggested limited water to even the rich and my comment about corruption and bribery.
What's happening there is horrible. Many will die.
Checklist (Score:1)
1. Stop population growth
2. Stop wasting money on space program and militarization, redirect resources to population relocation and water recycling infrastructure
3. Build desalination plants
4. Don't send those millions to Europe, NA, and Australia. We don't want them and have our own problems.
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Two years ago I read about this very issue in another Indian city (Bangalore) - this is not a new problem.
Wired article from 2017: https://www.wired.com/2017/05/... [wired.com]
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Water there is already deregulated. you have the rich mentioned in the article with their *private* water tankers living it up while others die of thirst. That's not socialism, that's what the market created.
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If you can get water from tankers, the problem is not a shortage of water, it's a shortage in developing a good water supply.
The article blames blames global warming but the Indian socialist government programs are wholly insufficient, fraught with bribery and incompetence.
India had the makings of a good economy but then they captured all the profits from the corporations to fund their programs. Large corporations don't even want to enter the country because of a 30% tax on foreign companies and where compa
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Better off people can buy bottled water however. There's a limit of how much government water can be handed out. Those who can afford it should buy at market rate, those who cannot should be prioritized so you don't have mass deaths. That's the governments basic responsibility here, not to hand out water to those who don't actually need it, on account of having money.
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That's the governments basic responsibility here, not to hand out water to those who don't actually need it, on account of having money.
If the government was handling its basic responsibilities, this wouldn't be happening in the first place.
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Although the municipal body has worked to prioritize low-income households ...
Everyone should have equal access to water. The body's need for water is not affected by income level.
Of course your need for water will depend on your income level. You think executives sitting in their offices need as much water as the lowly paid workers doing manual labour out in the heat and humidity?
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In addition, real pollution, such as mercury, lead, plastics, arsenic, etc are generally coming from Asia, but esp. from China. A big part of that is due to their
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