Major Power Outage Hits Manhattan (cnn.com) 146
"More than 40,000 in Manhattan don't have power," reports CNN:
Of the 42,000 customers without power in New York, most are in Midtown Manhattan and the Upper West Side, the utility company said. The city's fire department is responding to numerous transformer fires, the first of which occurred in Manhattan on West 64th Street and West End Avenue, officials said.
The outage is having a widespread effect, with the New York subway system also experiencing power outages in its stations, the agency managing the trains said. "We're working to identify causes and keep trains moving," the Metropolitan Transportation Authority tweeted... Photos from Times Square are showing some of the famous electronic billboards dark as dozens of people stand confused on the sidewalks.
Updates from CNN report that subway trains "have been stopped for more than 45 minutes and they can't move back to stations. Some people have been forced to walk through train cars to evacuate."
The outage is having a widespread effect, with the New York subway system also experiencing power outages in its stations, the agency managing the trains said. "We're working to identify causes and keep trains moving," the Metropolitan Transportation Authority tweeted... Photos from Times Square are showing some of the famous electronic billboards dark as dozens of people stand confused on the sidewalks.
Updates from CNN report that subway trains "have been stopped for more than 45 minutes and they can't move back to stations. Some people have been forced to walk through train cars to evacuate."
Terrorists don't need to hack to take the grid dow (Score:3)
Terrorists don't need to hack to take the grid down. Just take out a few substations can be done with out any computers as well.
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When we lose power in Paducah, we just break out the Scrabble or Monopoly. We don't run around all confused in the street, and nobody calls in the FBI.
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When you paid $100 million for the penthouse condo in 432 Park Avenue and you don't want to hike up and down 88 flights of stairs.
Re:Terrorists don't need to hack to take the grid (Score:5, Informative)
From TFA:
What's the cause: The city's fire department is responding to numerous transformer fires, the first of which occurred in Manhattan on West 64th Street and West End Avenue, officials said.
Sounds like standard fare in NYC, Con Ed doesn't have enough capacity nor adequate protection from overload leading to power lines and transformers catching fire. The terrorists don't need anything but lawn chairs and a drink cooler so they can wait for the power grid to take itself out.
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Most of the time, the outages seem more limited, but NYC is the only place I have ever heard of a utility power line catching fire because it was over capacity and didn't get shut down.
It's also where I have read about electrified sidewalks frying pets.
Re: We already get the news (Score:5, Interesting)
We had a big outage last winter with more customers out in my rural state--very strangely the New York centered national media didn't cover it!
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It's such a tiny, tiny number of people affected. Like you said, even a rural state having a minor blackout due to winter weather far exceeds this.
Its not so simple. With all the talk of "sustainable living" by the coastal elites, they don't actually do it. When the power goes out unexpectedly for an extended period of time they require help from the rest of the nation to prevent it from turning into thousands dead, rioting, looting, and mayhem.
It is the rural folks that actually live sustainable lives. Instead of thousands dead, rioting, looting, and mayhem, the sense of community grows, with backyard cookouts, wood stoves still heating homes if i
Re: We already get the news (Score:5, Insightful)
Its not so simple. With all the talk of "sustainable living" by the coastal elites, they don't actually do it.
Neither does anyone who lives in a rural area.
Imagine what would happen if everyone of those "coastal elites" would live like rural people does.
Do you realize how much space that would require? Or how much more oil would be burned for transportation alone?
When you think that rural folks live in a sustainable way you are comparing the resources spent by one person compared to hundreds of other.
If everyone started to live the way rural people live then you can forget about hunting or fishing. All the wild animals would be gone within a week.
Per capita the large cities are pretty damn clean and efficient.
Rural living only works if only a few actually does it.
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I think you greatly underestimate the number of animals in Central Park Zoo. There are 8.6 million people in NYC alone. So each person would get about 1/10,000th of an animal (assuming low single-digit instances of each of the 150 species). You might at least be able to see that much meat with the naked eye if it's a bear; not so much if it's a squirrel. Ei
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> 300 lbs
Power is out! Better start eating the food in the fridge. Start with the ice cream!
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CloudFlare’s rogue regex (Score:2)
Strikes again!
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I've heard of "induction of regular languages" but when your lattice of automata starts overvolting transformers you've taken it too far.
Coincidence? (Score:5, Interesting)
The outage came 42 years to the day after the giant 1977 blackout.
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The answer to life! :P
Re: Coincidence? (Score:2)
God has 13 fingers.
Re:A prediction saved inside a time capsule (Score:5, Funny)
So I guess in 9 months an inordinate number of babies will be born. So to pass the time, go have sex with your honey.
Oh my god. Slashdotters, I am soooooo sorry!
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I would speculate that if you made the breakdown by wealth/income rather than race, much of the racial difference would disappear.
Sorry, why is this the outage that made the news? (Score:3, Interesting)
In some parts of Louisiana, 50-90% of customers are without power [poweroutage.us] -- nearly 120k in all. Manhattanites really do think they're the center of the universe
Re:Sorry, why is this the outage that made the new (Score:5, Funny)
I'm confused... are you suggesting that Manhattanites approving the stories submitted to Slashdot?
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I'm confused...
I know -- I'm used to that by now. It's ok.
The breathless story was from CNN. Says it right on the first line and everything.
However, Coastals Do (Score:2)
This is also the Mindset that allows the Tech Giants feel that they are justified in imposing their ideology on the rest of the country/world in a naziesque way. See, if it is something WE do, then everyone should....
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Basket of deplorables.
Flyover country.
Nobody gives a shit about anyone living more than 20 miles from the coast.
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You keep parroting that, but you haven't been able to shut up about everyone more than 20 miles from the coast since your bitch got Trumped.
A great country with many weapons and a rich history is not destroyed by foreign threats. Even Putin's manipulation of voters is ultimately, while horrible and quite frankly an act of war, a small thing in the grand scheme of things.
No, a country is destroyed by the willing surrender of its people to those who would harm it. It matters not what was promised in this Faustian bargain. It matters not whether it is delivered. The willing embrace of fools like you to people like the Narcissistic Sociopath in
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I didn't know the democrats were in power in the whitehouse these days. Did I miss the last presidential election? I mean come on now, just look at them flailing all over each other screaming that the same policies started under Obama are now "worse than nazi concentration camps." If you don't think that's not narcissitic sociopathy with a massive desire to maintain and control power, you are the person that causes nations to collapse. Give you a tip, because you obviously didn't study history either.
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In some parts of Louisiana, 50-90% of customers are without power [poweroutage.us] -- nearly 120k in all. Manhattanites really do think they're the center of the universe
The difference being that there is no major Storm hitting Manhattan at the moment
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Why would either story be here? OMG their power has been out for less than an hour so you better post it on /.!
And yes I came here just to say this. It's bad enough when the political stories and other non-technical stuff comes on here but now it's regional US news about blackouts. This place has really gone downhill.
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>"Why would either story be here? OMG their power has been out for less than an hour so you better post it on /.! And yes I came here just to say this. It's bad enough when the political stories and other non-technical stuff comes on here but now it's regional US news about blackouts. This place has really gone downhill."
I was hoping people we posting this. I can't believe how stupid and arrogant this story is. Every month there are blackouts somewhere in the country that affect FAR more people. But
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Re: Sorry, why is this the outage that made the ne (Score:2)
Upstate New York used to be full of manufacturing industry. Now it's just full of despair.
The livelihoods of millions of people were destroyed by public policy, for the financial benefit of a handful of well-connected capitalists. What a surprise, that those now impoverished people vote for the candidate who promises to reverse the public policy that destroyed their communities.
Now whether Trump can deliver on his promises, when he must fight at every step against the Chinese-funded Democrat Party who are
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It is worse than public policy. It was the spread of the idea that the short term interests of the stockholders are the only things management needs to consider.
https://www.theamericanconserv... [theamerica...vative.com]
It would be a really good idea to reexamine this, but it's hard to see how a public polity change might do the job.
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Because Louisiana is low income low education poor infrastructure backwater swamp land, essentially 3rd world. Of course no one gives a shit.
So what? (Score:2)
Re: So what? (Score:2)
French hackers. It's always the French.
DAMN YOU, MINITEL!!!!
In other news ... (Score:2)
... Louisiana has 100,000 customers without power, and winds, and floods and stuff.
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Nah.
NYC just has a lot of fucking correspondents on site. It's cheap "journalism."
The 24/7 channels looked like goddam New Year's eve.
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People expect Louisiana to get wiped off the map, it's a swamp. They don't expect it from Manhattan even though it's a landfill on the coast.
Both should be evacuated wholesale
Sounds like really bad infrastructure (Score:3)
Will be interesting to hear about the causes.
It's Shabbat (Score:2)
You aren't supposed to have any lights or appliances on anyway.
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You know even in religious buildings in Israel elevators run - to every floor on Shabbat so nobody has to push a button. Lift stations still need power too. And water pumps. Shabbat doesn't mean no electricity, it means no switching of electricity by users to be technically correct. :-)
Iran? (Score:1)
Apparently Trump ordered a Cyber Attack on Iran after they shot down a drone. This could be retaliation or given the level of competence in theTrump administration they got Teheran and Manhattan mixed up.
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NY and NYC are both Democrat-run. Quick, how can we make that outage Trump's fault?
Awww poor baby (Score:1)
Re: Awww poor baby (Score:1)
Seriously, bro?
I'm an expat living in a developing country. We've lost power here twice - for a couple hours each time - in the past 3 years. Back in California I think we lost power like twice in ten years.
WTF is wrong with your local power company?
blindseer and his nukes (Score:2)
I guess if our friend blindseer had set up a nuke up there they had "reliable baseload" :P
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Why not just log in and comment on the new stuff like in the old days and forget it ever happened?
Why troll trolls? Why even care?
Nobody trolls me for long because I don't have any notifications turned on, so I literally am just going about my life and I only see them when I choose to read replies. If there are lots of trolls, I just laugh and "delete all" and nothing is lost.
I've noticed some people, if I reply to they I get reply to my reply almost instantly. Those are the same people who successfully get
Re: PRICELESS & CLASSIC ADDENDUM... apk (Score:2)
The trolls are paid and work full time. The only question is, who pays them.
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That isn't what happened. The government limited what they could charge customers because socialism and as costs went up something had to be cut back expense wise.
Because Socialism? California was the first state in the Union to deregulate its energy market in 1996 after passage of the federal Energy Policy Act of 1992. Electricity remained regulated in every other state. The Investor-Owned Utilities like PG&E and SCE were required to sell off their energy generation facilities to privately-owned companies like Reliant and Enron. Unfortunately, this partial deregulation was vulnerable to manipulation. California generated its own power, and bought the rest from t