Open Source RISC-V License Helps Alibaba Sidestep US Trade War (tomshardware.com) 221
"RISC-V is open source, so it's much more resistant to government bans," reports Tom's Hardware:
The Alibaba Group Holding, China's largest e-commerce company, unveiled its first self-designed chip, Xuantie 910, based on the open source RISC-V instruction set architecture. As reported by Nikkei Asian Review, the chip will target edge computing and autonomous driving, while the RISC-V's open source license may help Alibaba side-step the U.S. trade war altogether.
Alibaba doesn't intend to manufacture the chips itself. Instead, it could outsource production to other Chinese semiconductor companies, such as Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. According to Nikkei, the Chinese government has been encouraging wealthy Chinese companies from various industries to enter the semiconductor industry in recent years. The government's efforts accelerated when the trade war with the U.S. started last year. It reportedly forced foreign companies to transfer their technology and IP to Chinese companies if they wanted any chance at the local Chinese market.
"Most Chinese companies are still wary about whether Arm's architecture and Intel's architecture and technical support would remain accessible amid tech tension and further geopolitical uncertainties," Sean Yang, an analyst at research company CINNO in Shanghai, said, according to Nikkei. "It would be very helpful for China to increase long-term semiconductor sufficiency if big companies such as Alibaba jump in to build a chip (design) platform which smaller Chinese developers can just use without worrying about being cut off from supplies."
The article also notes that using RISC-V will give Alibaba "the ability to completely customize and extend the ISA of the processors built on top of it without having to get permission from any company first."
Alibaba doesn't intend to manufacture the chips itself. Instead, it could outsource production to other Chinese semiconductor companies, such as Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. According to Nikkei, the Chinese government has been encouraging wealthy Chinese companies from various industries to enter the semiconductor industry in recent years. The government's efforts accelerated when the trade war with the U.S. started last year. It reportedly forced foreign companies to transfer their technology and IP to Chinese companies if they wanted any chance at the local Chinese market.
"Most Chinese companies are still wary about whether Arm's architecture and Intel's architecture and technical support would remain accessible amid tech tension and further geopolitical uncertainties," Sean Yang, an analyst at research company CINNO in Shanghai, said, according to Nikkei. "It would be very helpful for China to increase long-term semiconductor sufficiency if big companies such as Alibaba jump in to build a chip (design) platform which smaller Chinese developers can just use without worrying about being cut off from supplies."
The article also notes that using RISC-V will give Alibaba "the ability to completely customize and extend the ISA of the processors built on top of it without having to get permission from any company first."
Black Metal (Score:2, Interesting)
Nice name for a chip :)
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You can download the RISC-V specifications (start here [1] for an overview), then have a go at designing a chip based on it. Be sure to engage help from the friendly RISC-V community.
At the end of that process you'll perhaps understand what's between ISA and working silicon.
If you feel a bit daunted at first, don't give up. Warm up on a downscaled exercise, like turning to a modern language specification (try, e.g. the C11 standard, start here [2] -- and work your way up to a working optimizing compiler for
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All of you fuckers need to just shut the fuck up like the children that you are.
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You say to a nearly 40-year-old man who has done more than you've possibly accomplished...
RISCV hosted on github, github complying with ITAR (Score:5, Interesting)
congratulations! this just firmly placed RISC-V in the cross-hairs of the extremely short-sighted U.S. Government's attention, and with github "complying" with ITAR, the probability that China gets added to the list, preventing and prohibiting Chinese developers from accessing github just went up.
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This would accomplish nothing but add another nail to Github's coffin. I can see China building a competent Github clone itself, and I can see many projects moving to it.
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Thanks for letting us know. I just sent the information to the State Department (and Microsoft). I didn't realize it was on github.
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ITAR doesn't apply to public domain knowledge. Algorithms or designs which are already broadly known/distributed are not controlled by ITAR.
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Tell that to Phillip Zimmerman.
It's thanks to Phil Zimmerman that we can be sure that this is actually how it works, as the government dropped its case.
Well deserved (Score:2)
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failing?
lolz, all the indicators I see are pointing upward.
Of course, there will come a day when China and then India surpass the USA but that's good, more people having a good life.
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Facts: GNP is going up. National Income going up. Unemployment going down every year since 2010.
You must be the idiot, facts are inconvenient.
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blah blah blah
Meanwhile the USA is hardly failing, indicators going up.
Whatever it's doing, it's working. Successful countries and empires don't do the things you wish they would, the world is cruel.
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You're seriously comparing European country that changed governments a few times to USA? Comparing a 12 year sneeze of Nazism to USA with same government for more than two centuries?
You have no point and no ability to make comparisons.
Re:Well deserved (Score:5, Insightful)
Just what the failing US empire deserves. Also what racist dictator do they think they are trying to dictate how the whole world should tick and be run. More competitive innovation the better, ...! ;-)
Think very carefully what you wish for. If the US "Empire", which it isn't, falls, what do you get? You get to live under a Chinese empire. Think very carefully which one you want to live under.
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Why are empires the only choices? And why must people live under one or the other?
Re:Well deserved (Score:4)
It was the OP that claimed the US was a empire. We both know that it isn't, but that was the parameter of the statement. The Chinese are not a empire ether but are closer than the US is. As for why must, well under the US you don't. You have a choice. The Chinese you have no such choice.
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:5, Insightful)
Worse, he has created a competitor, and he has shown the USA is willing to use bullying tactics which means other countries need to reduced their exposure to an increasingly unfriendly USA.
USA First only applies in the USA. The other 96% of the worlds population is happy to say USA last.
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USA First only applies in the USA. The other 96% of the worlds population is happy to say USA last.
Have you actually talked with anyone buying into the USA first mantra?
They are happy with USA being second to last in almost everything.
As long as they can find one other country to point at they are fine.
"At least we aren't polluting as much as China"
"At least we aren't treating our inmates as bad as NK"
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Sorry so what is your proposal China First?
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry so what is your proposal China First?
He's trying to point out that being a close second to authoritarian regimes is not necessarily a particularly good place to be. Furthermore, China installed close to half as much renewable generation capacity in 2018 as the entire installed US renewable energy generation capacity because ... the future is COAL!!! ... which is also not a good place for the US to be. If the Chinese continue this, and there is no reason to think they won't, the whole "At least we aren't polluting as much as China" will become "Uhhhhhh... when did we start polluting more than China???"
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Well, its possible it has already started in Hong Kong.
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I predict that China will stumble via internal revolution/s. I'll also predict it will fracture into states.
Then join the queue. People have been predicting China falling apart for over 2000 years and China has always eventually proven them wrong.
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Re:Fsck you USA (Score:4, Informative)
Speaking of being wrong (you), apparently you lack historical perspective. China is young for a nation. It started in 1949 via the Cultural Revolution where an entire nation underwent cultural amnesia; even to the point of birth records being burned purposefully.
Speak to most Chinese and they will admit that the CCP is just another "dynasty" of forced rule. It too will pass, and the capital will move. This rise and fall is cyclical in China.
Really? The first unification of China was under the Quin dynasty around 200 BC, ... Quin, sometimes transliterated as Chin, as in China. China has been broken up several times since then but always re-united.
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:1)
China will fall apart once the economic sanctions start in response to all the human atrocities theyre about to do in Hong Kong. I am in awe and respect of Hong Kong standing up for their rights.
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China will fall apart once the economic sanctions start in response to all the human atrocities theyre about to do in Hong Kong. I am in awe and respect of Hong Kong standing up for their rights.
No it won't. Sanctions will only push the Chinese together and unite them against a common external enemy (no prises for guessing who that might be), that's what sanctions always do. China is not some tinpot dictatorship in the Middle East that the US can push around like a floor mop, it's an emerging superpower.
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Quin would be an empire. Not quite a nation.
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China, Russia, N.Korea, and Iran are the axis powers. The rest of the Pacific are allied against them. If (God forbid) WW3 breaks out, it will be in that region.
That would be a mess. None of them even like one another, the only things on which they all can agree is that we are quite inconvenient, and that human rights are overrated.
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"People have been predicting China falling apart for over 2000 years and China has always eventually proven them wrong."
Boy, you apparently failed hard core in history class. China has fallen multiple times for about 4,000 years. The last time being right after the Second World War.
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"People have been predicting China falling apart for over 2000 years and China has always eventually proven them wrong."
Boy, you apparently failed hard core in history class. China has fallen multiple times for about 4,000 years. The last time being right after the Second World War.
Firstly, you really need to work on your insults. Secondly, that was kind of my point genius except that the first time China was united under one ruler, Qin Shi Huang, was around 200 BC which was a around 2200 years ago. China has broken up multiple times since then only to be re-united. China is the ultimate survivor and I don't see it breaking up again any time soon any more than the US.
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"Firstly, you really need to work on your insults"
That was a statement of fact, not an insult. That you take it as such shows your intellectual dishonesty off the bat.
"Secondly, that was kind of my point genius"
That people were right? China KEPT FALLING. It may progress, but it always falls back. It took them only until a couple of years ago to perfect a ballpoint pen nib. They're ALWAYS behind due to their mentality. Pay fucking attention to history. I did.
"China has broken up multiple times since then onl
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"Firstly, you really need to work on your insults"
That was a statement of fact, not an insult. That you take it as such shows your intellectual dishonesty off the bat.
"Secondly, that was kind of my point genius"
That people were right? China KEPT FALLING. It may progress, but it always falls back. It took them only until a couple of years ago to perfect a ballpoint pen nib. They're ALWAYS behind due to their mentality. Pay fucking attention to history. I did.
"China has broken up multiple times since then only to be re-united"
That doesn't sound like a stable country, to me.
Well, I did not get my history lessons from a 1930s textbook. China is a country that has been around for 2200 years. When you have been around for that long, stuff happens. The Roman empire also broke up more than once during it's existence, that is nothing unusual for territorial entities who measure their lifespan in millennia. Come back to me when the US has been around for another 2000 years and we can talk about stability. You guys didn't even make it through a century before almost tearing your count
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It appears that China has been many countries that recycle a name.
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"Well, I did not get my history lessons from a 1930s textbook. China is a country that has been around for 2200 years"
Your text books must have been from the BC era, then, as China has risen and fallen for over 5,000 years.
IOW, your history book is bullshit and useless, much like your original statement.
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:2)
What about population count do you think leads to becoming a superpower? Sure, there's a bar above which you need to hit, but a superpower comes about from economic independence, natural resources, technology, and strategy. There haven't been that many. Arguably only Egypt, Rome, and Persia before the modern era, and U.K., Russia, and U.S. since. There's no reason to believe China, which has been around for millennia, is going to suddenly figure out how to turn its population numbers into world domination.
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China before the modern era was definitely a superpower. As was India. Both were the largest, wealthiest and technologically advanced empires on Earth at one point or another.
A huge nation, managed well, is going to outperform a cluster of much smaller nations that have to deal with each other through international treaties.
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:2)
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But there is one important fact that makes this all but inevitable, and that's historical, China has always been its worst enemy. Seemly, China is rife with history of face-planting itself when it would otherwise should not.
China historically handicapped itself technologically through isolationism. They appear to have remediated that deficit conclusively.
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Worse, he has created a competitor
This.
The USA will lose, long term, ie. when this childish trade war ends.
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Wow, if you think China beating out "racist" US is a good thing, you should read up on race relations in....well, lets me honest, most of Asia. The idea that racism is bad is mostly a western philosophy.
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Wow, if you think China beating out "racist" US is a good thing, you should read up on race relations in....well, lets me honest, most of Asia. The idea that racism is bad is mostly a western philosophy.
No, I think the idea that racism is bad is pretty widespread in the rest of the world since they were the ones who had to suffer through Western delusions of everybody except them being inferiors specimens of the species. It is Westerners who have walked around with the idea in their heads that race is some kind of real natural phenomenon. The idea that there is such a thing as race is mostly a western rationalisation for treating people in other parts of the world like lower forms of life. In the mean time
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:2)
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Anyone who didn't already understand that the USA would use bullying tactics has probably already lost control of their government, because of their extreme naivete.
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:4, Insightful)
After I left college I got an Apartment. Every year they raised my rent 10%, early in my career my income actually dropped 20% due to the Tech bubble pop.
Being the case I was getting a bad deal from my Apartment, I decided to buy a home. Because it would be cheaper with the Mortgage then Rent, and I had some money saved up from before my salary cut to pay for the down payment. Then because I wouldn't sign a full year lease, as I would be moving in a few month, the Department actually had me paying an extra 5% more.
So I suffered and payed the extra amount, so I can put myself in a better long term position. Now after all that was done, it took over a year for the Apartment to fill the vacancy. So their attempt to get more money out of me, ended up costing them more then if they were more reasonable about raising the rent, where I may have stayed there for a few more years.
America First, is causing other nations to come up with a strategy without America, however because they have invested so much into what was a steady America it will take them time, and pay the temporary cost, while alternative deals are being implemented. Causing a long term problem for the US later.
Countries traded with the US, because it was a stable, and predictable trading partner. Going with the US may not have been the best deal, but because of its stability and predictability, it made it easy for them to plan and budget. Also the US have also negotiated a less then ideal deal, for the reason that we wanted to keep the relationship. Much like how a shop will offer sales, bulk discounts, and preferred customer discounts.
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Worse, he has created a competitor, and he has shown the USA is willing to use bullying tactics which means other countries need to reduced their exposure to an increasingly unfriendly USA.
USA First only applies in the USA. The other 96% of the worlds population is happy to say USA last.
Somehow, the term 'bullying' is the last thing I'd use when talking about China. Which has the sort of power that the Soviets did back in the day, coupled w/ an economy to power it. Yeah, they've started experiencing a downturn, but it could take a while for that to take effect
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:4, Insightful)
You think American bullying started with Trump? Seriously?
No, but it used to be used sparingly after speaking softly did not help and there was a degree intelligence behind the use of the big stick. Now it's being used willy nilly by a bunch of 1st graders who think absolutely everybody is being mean to them.
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No, but it used to be used sparingly after speaking softly did not help and there was a degree intelligence behind the use of the big stick.
That is because the USA were used to be the pimp "cop" of the world and the "soft speaking" (basically: you don't want to get hurt, do you?) worked. In this multipolar world, threats do not work anymore as they used to and so the big sticks are used more often.
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No, but it used to be used sparingly after speaking softly did not help and there was a degree intelligence behind the use of the big stick.
That is because the USA were used to be the pimp "cop" of the world and the "soft speaking" (basically: you don't want to get hurt, do you?) worked. In this multipolar world, threats do not work anymore as they used to and so the big sticks are used more often.
Nobody likes an obnoxious bully, the US used to be an occasional bully, now bullying has become the default instrument even when dealing with allies perfectly willing to negotiate. All that will achieve is make the work of Chinese diplomats easier. But that is something you'll have to learn by doing as the American right wing usually has to. You weren't willing to accept the truth of the old saying about it being a bad idea to fight land wars in Asia until after Korea, Vietnam, two separate trips to Iraq, A
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:4, Insightful)
Occasional bully? Where on Earth do you people learn history? You've been brainwashed. USA is uses bullying as a weapon of first resort, and has a long history of murder. You Americans are the least educated and knowledgeable of foreign affairs, languages, and disparate cultures, societies, and social norms among all Westernized countries and the least exposed universally. It's pathetic and humiliating how little you know of what you've done. The US is a 300 pound bully with the mind of a child, a contemptuous one at that, with keys to the gun cabinet, armed and dangerous.
Fifteen years ago, the prominent political analyst Samuel Huntington, professor of the science of government at Harvard, warned in the establishment journal Foreign Affairs that for much of the world the U.S. was "becoming the rogue superpower... the single greatest external threat to their societies." Shortly after, his words were echoed by Robert Jervis, the president of the American Political Science Association: "In the eyes of much of the world, in fact, the prime rogue state today is the United States." As we have seen, global opinion supports this judgment by a substantial margin.
Citation [foreignaffairs.com]
America is a sick country, always has been. From the good old days when we imported Africans as slaves and murdering Native Americans so we could steal their land; to our nefarious role in overthrowing democratic governments in South America and Iran and replacing them with horrible dictators; to our imperialist adventures in Korea and Vietnam to the unneeded and uncalled for invasion of Iraq, which has destabilized the entire Middle East - we've shown the world that we are indeed exceptional...we've actually accomplished what Napoleon and Hitler only dreamed of - setting up a nationalist empire that dominates much of the globe.
Good diatribe (Score:2)
I know how I explain that but how do you explain that? Given your post, of course....
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Used sparingly? What, are you fucking nuts? Look at the CIA's involvement with coups from the 1950s-1980s. They backed murderer after murderer to overthrow legitimate elected governments. Allende in Chile, Suharto in Indonesia, Guzzetti, Branco, Pinochet, Chiang, Batista, Battalion, the Shah, Saddam Hussein, Vang Pao, Somosa, Mobutu...the list goes on. Spain and Portugal had outright fascist governments and they weren't invaded. How was that a degree of intelligence? Trump hasn't overthrown a single gov
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No, but it used to be used sparingly after speaking softly did not help and there was a degree intelligence behind the use of the big stick. Now it's being used willy nilly by a bunch of 1st graders who think absolutely everybody is being mean to them.
Not to mention he treats his allies as badly as he does his enemies. America is no longer considered trustworthy even in the west.
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The long term harm is permanent devaluation of USA exports and royalties. People don't really care whats under the hood, but on price.
China will just say your chips are both too expensive and subject to sovereign whims/threats. Accordingly we will scale up open source, and accept some yield losses until we improve techniques. For those in the know - US binary blobs are now unacceptable at any cost.
For now unstated 'security risk' and blackballing may be effective, but if/when China crowdsources - it has no
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And people say trump is not a foreign asset.
Clearly he's not improving things either.
I'm still kind of joking, but... I don't have to even explain.
Re: Fsck you USA (Score:2, Informative)
The Nazis were never "socialist", except in name. They were brought to power by the German oligarchy and provided it with slave labor, imprisoned and destroyed the German Left, destroyed the labor union movement and concentrated industrial ownership to a degree unseen before.
They did not touch private property of capital, or do anything that is part of a "socialist" ideology.
They were what right wingnuts are today, without the brakes a democracy can put on them.
And they went far....
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:5, Informative)
indeed, necessity is the mother of invention. Trump has just reduced Intel/ARM sales by stupid trade wars, brinkmanship is definitely the domain of the intellectually challenged.
Yes indeed, though I would like to point out that this kind of thing predates Trump as well. For quite a while, China was blocked from getting top end Intel processors to "stop" them from building supercomputers. Needless to say it didn't work and they build their own dedicated supercomputing chip sufficiently well to break into the er top 1. Still number 3.
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Indeed. As little love as I have for Trump, blaming any of this on him is like blaming people who want to raise the minimum wage for business owners wanting to automate away jobs. The most Trump may have done here is diddle the timeline a little bit. RISC-V was already a thing, and all the reasons for using it (or otherwise coming up with an architecture not under someone else's control) now already existed, they just weren't quite as strong then as they are now. I thought they were fairly compelling as was
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Also, it might have happened in a mutually beneficial way. Now the beneficiary is so by way of self sufficiency.
Love for Trump has nothing to do with this. The leadership is absent, and the consequences are being seen.
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Love for Trump has nothing to do with this. The leadership is absent, and the consequences are being seen.
I agree with your assessment of Trump, but not the situation. Trump has nothing to do with this. If it didn't happen now, it might happen under some Democrat, and then people would be arguing that it was their fault, and that the leadership was absent.
In fact, the leadership is horrifyingly present. It just doesn't want what's good for the masses.
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I hear that ARM is looking to move some of their IP out of the US because of this. They are based in the UK but have R&D in the US, and are Japanese owned. When a limb gets gangrene all you can do it cut it off.
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:5, Informative)
ARM rep who came to visit us. We get PCBs manufactured in China with ARM CPUs on them so we asked about it.
Could be lying, he was only a rep. If I were ARM I'd probably be hedging by bets a little and waiting to see if Trump gets re-elected next year, while not investing any more than absolutely necessary in the US until then.
China is a huge growth market for ARM, they can't abandon it. They are feeling the pinch with Trump on one side and RISC-V on the other.
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If I were ARM I'd probably be hedging by bets a little and waiting to see if Trump gets re-elected next year, while not investing any more than absolutely necessary in the US until then.
Yup, ARM and everybody else. It's getting crowded in the hedgerow.
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RISC-V taking off in China is the official beginning of the end for ARM, first on China, then the world.
RISC-V does the same job as ARM. That is a direct threat. China wants an ARM alternative. That makes the threat realistic. China has a history of banning products and technologies not aligned with its goals.
I predict that China will develop its own set of RISC-V processors designed to make spying on the citizenry easier, then ban everything else outside of government-approved projects.
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Trump has just reduced Intel/ARM sales by stupid trade wars
More than that, this may have created a viable alternative to Intel/ARM.
This could be a re-run of the ISS episode -- US blocked China in participating in the ISS about 20-25 years ago, so China went and developed on its own. Now, soon the only working space station will be the Chinese one.
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I was impressed by China's approach too. The same companies that managed to pressure/corrupt western governments into all sorts of concessions let themselves be ripped off by China. That shows what a big trade bloc can do if the political will is there.
In theory, the US or Europe could do the same. If they did not run to a large extent on lobby money (USA) or have a mix of lobby influence and internal competition between states (EU).
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I was impressed by China's approach too. The same companies that managed to pressure/corrupt western governments into all sorts of concessions let themselves be ripped off by China. That shows what a big trade bloc can do if the political will is there. In theory, the US or Europe could do the same. If they did not run to a large extent on lobby money (USA) or have a mix of lobby influence and internal competition between states (EU).
The US is in considerably worse shape on that count than the EU, bribery is not legal in the EU yet.
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The EU has an additional problem compared to the US:
Countries still have their own tax laws and tax rates, and some use this to attract big companies by setting their tax rates extra low. That is how we get a race to the bottom in how much taxes these companies have to pay. Completely legal, no bribes required.
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" Trump has just reduced Intel/ARM sales by stupid trade wars, "
ARM is British, and RISC-V does not complete with Intel.
Ssssssssssh
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>ARM is British
Not since the Japanese brought it.
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problem is this chip isnt bench-marked and i am guessing like other Chinese cpus in the past slow as crap and not a threat to any of the chip-makers ..in cars/planes etc no one will use this
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indeed, necessity is the mother of invention. Trump has just reduced Intel/ARM sales by stupid trade wars, brinkmanship is definitely the domain of the intellectually challenged.
ARM is owned by SoftBank, which is a Japanese company, and is not affected by these sanctions. And even before that, it was British, never American.
There is nothing stopping someone like say GSMC from licensing ARM and making an ARM implementation chip. Of course, they could do a RISC V as well, w/ all its sources
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indeed, necessity is the mother of invention. Trump has just reduced Intel/ARM sales by stupid trade wars, brinkmanship is definitely the domain of the intellectually challenged.
American Companies (Intel/AMD) do not have exclusivity on cpu engineering. So, recognize that Trump awoke the world to realize that American Supplies of cpus can't be assured, and hence, look forward to new designs from non USA organizations and countries. And it is likely the new designs will be more efficient and easier to create compatible compilers than what one has with AMD/Intel.
Re:Fsck you USA (Score:4, Informative)
Let's see: [riscv.org]
What is it with you Trumpists and your complete disconnect from reality?
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everyone you listed will not be running this chip ..china has had other cpu's and they all are 20% slower then everyone/cpu on the market .. reminds me of cyrix users ...even when they used them in there own supercomputers they use 50 Chinese made/designed cpus and then 13k intel cpus and 10k nvidia cards just so they can say chinese cpu power !!!
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Oh good grief. Go away and delete your account, you're bringing down the IQ here by an order of a magnitude.
And you're moving the goalposts. OP was talking about design, not running production. Now fuck off.
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they designed them not to be used? ok gotcha
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I mean he's not entirely wrong. RISC-V certainly started with a couple of academics creating the ISA for teaching purposes.
It's just that "some guys in their spare time" created something worth using and building on.
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Academics at one of the USA's most prestigious universities most certainly do not count as 'some guys in their spare time.
Of course, it's Berkeley, which is famously a red flag to the right-wing bulls.
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Trump is a hopeless politician but a good business man...
Is that why he bankrupted six casinos, ran an airline, a magazine, a mortgage company, and several real estate project into the ground, why he actually got sued for fraud over Trump University and lost the Apprentice franchise that netted him $213 million due to his vulgar tweets?
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You got it. Actually, you're right, and he's wrong. Trump is not a great business man, where business is defined not even as legal or legitimate business, but simply in providing value for payment. Trump is a great con man, though: Until he had to move into that dump at 1600 Penn. Ave., he was living in a gilt suite of an imposing tower out of which he had managed to keep undesirables like blacks but in which he also employed persons of a race he considers inferior (but with some good people, he assumes) do
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You're confused, Trump himself made money doing that. He worked U.S. tax and bankruptcy law.
Trump U and Apprentice were chump change to him.
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> Kind of like when Intel created AMD...
What? Intel, founded in 1968 by one of the guys at Fairchild, decided to create a competitor to itself in 1969? That's some solid business plan...
Alternatively, you're talking complete bollocks.
Made AMD a x86 competitor (Score:3)
You're right.
Also, Intel created a x86 competitor, at the insistence of IBM, by giving AMD the right to make x86 processors.
Intel didn't have competition in the x86 market. AMD existed as a company making shift registers and such things, not as a direct competitor to Intel in the CPU market. IBM said they wouldn't buy Intel chips unless Intel had some competition for similar CPUs. Therefore Intel created a competitor by giving AMD the right to make competiting CPUs.
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Access to the Chinese market is a service the Chinese government provides...
If the Chinese government did not exist then there would be no impediment preventing access to Chinese markets. Putting up roadblocks and charging tolls on an existing path is not a "service".
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If the Chinese government did not exist, there would be no market. It's primary service is providing stability and rule of law, including ones about not kidnapping visiting CEOs for ransom.
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Wrong.
Designing a CPU is easy. Getting an ecosystem around a general purpose ISA - which includes compilers, operating systems, drivers, all the application level software tested and tuned, and so on - that's an enormous task.
An open source OpenRisc architecture did not really take off, for example, as nobody was investing into this ecosystem. RISC-V success is only due to a much better emphasis on software infrastructure.
And when you don't need to depend on such an ecosystem (e.g., if you're implementing a
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