Disney Announces $12.99 Bundle For Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+ (theverge.com) 118
Disney will offer a bundle package of its three streaming services -- Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+ -- for $12.99 a month starting on November 12th, the company has announced. From a report: The company previously hinted at a bundle for all three services, but CEO Bob Iger made it official during the company's investors call Tuesday. At $12.99, the bundle is cheaper than -- or on par with -- competitive streaming services, including Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. It's also significantly cheaper than HBO Max's rumored streaming price of $16-$17 a month. Hulu is currently available for $5.99 a month (with ads), and ESPN+ costs $4.99 a month. ESPN+ is the Disney-owned sports streaming platform, which carries "hundreds of MLB, NHL and MLS games, Grand Slam tennis, Top Rank boxing, PGA Tour golf, college sports, international rugby, cricket, the full library of ESPN Films including 30 for 30, and more."
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Lemme guess...you have never seen a comic book.
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Marvel Comics already made Thor a chick.
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The reason cable packages are expensive is the sports channels.
They had originally mentioned a $6.99 per month plan that presumably did not include Hulu or ESPN+. I can't find anything saying the standalone plan will still be an option though. While Hulu might be nice, ESPN+ is pretty unnecessary if you already have cable, and I say that as a sports guy.
Re:Lower the Price, Cut ESPN. (Score:4, Insightful)
If someone is going to subscribe to both Disney+ for $6.99/month and Hulu for $5.99/month, then this basically gives them ESPN+ for free.
(Then watch Disney slowly raise prices a year later.)
This is just about the bundle (Score:1)
They had originally mentioned a $6.99 per month plan that presumably did not include Hulu or ESPN+. I can't find anything saying the standalone plan will still be an option though.
The article is just about the bundle, the standalone plan is still there...
But after some thought I'll bet that $6.99 month standalone plan is not without ads, and you'll be able to pay a bit more for an ad-free version... probably still worth it for what they have, though I'll have to see how much. May have to treat it like HBO
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Given Disney's library, $7 a month is actually reasonable, even with ads. My wife is currently pregnant with our first kid, so we have at least a year until we actually need it, but for families with little kids $7 a month is a price well spent. Plus, I actually kind of like Pixar movies, and am vaguely interested in some of the new Star Wars IP they have coming out- and I don't have a VCR to play my old VHS copies of the original trilogy (both regular and special edition).
But I can live without hulu and
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But after some thought I'll bet that $6.99 month standalone plan is not without ads, and you'll be able to pay a bit more for an ad-free version...
You'd lose that bet. There's only 1 version of Disney+ for $6.99
https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-spotlights-comprehensive-direct-to-consumer-strategy-at-2019-investor-day/
Launching in late 2019, Disney+ will be the ultimate streaming destination for movies and shows from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, and National Geographic. From The Walt Disney Company’s Direct-to-Consumer and International segment, Disney+ will offer ad-free programming with a variety of original feat
Re:Lower the Price, Cut ESPN. (Score:5, Informative)
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This is ESPN+, NOT ESPN. There is nothing on ESPN+ that would appeal to a mass audience. Just obscure sports events that pretty much nobody watches.
ESPN+ has exclusive license to carry UFC now, as in "you cannot call your cable operator and watch the big MMA PPV event anymore, you have to go through a streaming service".
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Sumo is free on NHK World. You don't need any other sports.
At least not until they invent Speedball 2. Why isn't that a thing? We clearly have all the technology now.
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This is ESPN+, NOT ESPN. There is nothing on ESPN+ that would appeal to a mass audience. Just obscure sports events that pretty much nobody watches. I have it and it's pretty baffling how little they have on there. So yea, cut ESPN+, but mainly because nobody will want it, not because it's expensive.
Bundling cheap shit no one wants to see with popular channels... now where have I seen that strategy before?
Cut the cable they said. Streaming is better they said. We are not cable companies they said.
Starting RIIIIIGHT after College football (Score:2)
We've got this great deal for you! We'll off it just as soon as college football is mostly over.
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These companies that are pulling all their stuff off Netflix and all these new services starting up are going to find very un-sustained memberships. People will join one for a month, watch it's exclusives, then cancel and move to the next, lather, rinse, repeat until fatigue sets in and people give up on streaming and TV altogether.
Saw this coming. (Score:5, Insightful)
Who honestly didn't see this coming? All the major media companies will buy up all the little players and we will have is all the content rolled up under 2 or 3 big ass players. My prediction is all the content will be rolled up in theses services and will be worse than cable and more expensive. Now you are also paying for the pipe that carries it in to your house as well as the content.
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Re:Saw this coming. (Score:5, Interesting)
Too funny. Who said anything about no advertisements? There absolutely will be advertisements on there sooner or later, if not immediately. These companies want to maximize their profits. People in the recent past paid them to watch advertisements on cable. What makes you think streaming will be any different?
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I thot it had run out of steam @episodeone. But eventually the mouse roared, and the Millenium Falcon has continued to soar.
Big buildouts are a drain on profits, but they'll report losses for the year and get some good write-offs. And introduce a new generation of mini-mouse ears to a fairy-tale that Disney controls exclusively.
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Amazon Prime already has pre-roll ads (for their own stuff) and there's no upgrade to get rid of it.
Don't forget the data sales (Score:2)
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Also, you have to be pretty Internet-naive to believe their data is actually valid, useful, and not open to disappearing when a change in government brings in privacy laws.
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That doesn't make any sense. Every product has a target market.
Also, you have to be pretty Internet-naive to believe their data is actually valid, useful, and not open to disappearing when a change in government brings in privacy laws.
It's quite valid and useful, thanks. Everybody with a phone is 100% trackable 24/7, and of course, it's all tied to everythin
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Now you are also paying for the pipe that carries it in to your house as well as the content.
Who in 2019 wouldn't want a video capable Internet service for YouTube etc. anyway? I remember when MP3s were big and time consuming to download, in a decade or two most will have forgotten about it on their gigabit fiber link. Median hourly wage in the US now is $18.48, so 40 minutes/month and you've got a huge media bundle with no ads... of course it could always want it for less but even though you pay the distribution somebody has to make the stuff too.
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What's the messaging going on?
First it's everyone complaining that every tom dick and jane has started their own streaming
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Do you know something even more interesting. When you are streaming with no ads, the only content you end up being aware of, is the content being provided. Other streaming services attempt to attract you with content, you basically have never heard of, never seen an ad and never seen any episode. So why would anyone swap in the end, you end up swapping to something that streaming content that you have never heard of.
Living free of screaming advertisements in your own home changes everything. You can not se
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How is it worse than cable?
The worst thing about cable is that I can only use it at home. With streaming services I can use it from anywhere on my laptop, my tablet, my phone, etc.
Ads? (Score:2)
Does the Hulu included still come with ads? Anytime I think I should try Hulu again, I see the first ad and realize again that it's just not worth it.
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You can pay for ad free - But it doesn't apply to everything (some of the more popular/new stuff has ads on it anyway) No bueno...
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ads are pretty much gone from ad free Hulu unless you are paying for the broadcast service. The only time I have seen it has been on trailers (which is weird, it says it isn't covered by ad free but then doesn't play an ad, other than the triailer...). I honestly haven't seen adds on other stuff other than once in a while a single ad at the start of a movie. I know it used to be a lot worse.
Maybe im just not watching the popular stuff...
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Some of the shows have a 15 second ad on either of the show, but they're quick, not loud, and don't interrupt.
It seems ABC makes them do it and they're doing the minimum to fulfill a contract.
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There already is a tier of Hulu with no ads, it costs more of course. You either pay more or watch ads, I think that's fair.
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Does the Hulu included still come with ads? Anytime I think I should try Hulu again, I see the first ad and realize again that it's just not worth it.
Yes, the bundle includes ad-filled Hulu. They don't seem to say whether it's possible to pay additional to get ad-free Hulu, but that would probably bump the price up to $18.99 which isn't so great.
Seems like a good value at first, but maybe not (Score:2)
To me the inclusion of ESPN has no interest so I factor that put, for others that may add to the value.
So I'm just thinking about the combination of Disney Plus along with Hulu. That starts to seem appealing but....
Since Hulu has a plan without ads, I have to assume that's the Hulu you get with this bundle. I tried Hulu a few times but have been watching ad-free content so long I just can't take ads anymore, especially the really long unskipable ads Hulu seems to like.
What this also makes me realize is pr
Re:Seems like a good value at first, but maybe not (Score:5, Informative)
So I'm just thinking about the combination of Disney Plus along with Hulu. That starts to seem appealing but....
Since Hulu has a plan without ads, I have to assume that's the Hulu you get with this bundle.
You're getting the basic ad-supported version of Hulu that's $5.99/month, not the ad-free version of Hulu that's $11.99/month.
Disney’s bundle of Disney+, ESPN+ and ad-supported Hulu will cost $12.99 per month [cnbc.com]
Disney would almost be giving away Disney+ and ESPN+ if the bundle was for the ad-free version of Hulu. Disney isn't dumb.
What this $12.99 bundle does is give subscribers ESPN+ for free
Disney+ = $6.99
Hulu with ads = $5.99
ESPN+ = free
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$12.98/month
What this also makes me realize is probably the base price of Disney+ alone will be an ad-supported versions as well, so now you are looking at more to get an ad-free version of the Disney service alone...
There will only be 1 version of Disney+ and it will be ad-free
https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-spotlights-comprehensive-direct-to-consumer-strategy-at-2019-investor-day/
Launching in late 2019, Disney+ will be the ultimate streaming destination for movies and shows from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, and National Geographic. From The Walt Disney Company’s Direct-to-Consumer and International segment, Disney+ will offer ad-free programming with a variety of original feature-length films, documentaries, live-action and animated series and short-form content, along with unprecedented access to Disney’s incredible library of film and television entertainment.
Thank you (Score:1)
There will only be 1 version of Disney+ and it will be ad-free
Thanks for finding where it stated that explicitly, I wasn't sure if I remembered that was made clear or not.
Also from that link realized the service will release Nov 12th, had not known that before.
So it remains a great value. The bundle with a worthless ESPN+ and ad-riddled, Hulu, probably not at all what I want.
Well, maybe... (Score:1)
watch a bunch of southern hemisphere rugby, but there's tons of cricket, racing, certain soccer leagues, and other oddball sports.
Some of the more fringe stuff may actually be appealing, but even there the only thing I have a slight interest in would be rally racing, I am just really not into that many other sports, even if it is interesting to watch lesser known sports being played...
So for me personally, I still don't think the package price would be worth it. I'll look into ESPN+ offerings though and s
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Personally I blame ESPN as one factor in the death of bundled cable. Many of us are sick of having it forced down our throats when we have absolutely zero interest in it.
I really like Hulu no-ads plan. (Score:3)
Hard pass (Score:3)
I guess someone might want this. I've currently got DirecTV NOW ($50, going to cancel it soon), and Netflix Premium Plan ($16/month) and Prime Video ($119/year). I can't imagine wanting to pay MORE to watch TV. I'd like to ditch all but Prime (since I use it for shipping mostly) if I can convince my wife and kids. Spending $75/month for TV is so 1990s.
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SexConker Announces (Score:2)
SexConker announces he's not paying for that shit.
Even if you're a fan of Disney, the MCU, and new Star Wars, the Disney+ library they've shown so far is extremely thin. Given Disney's library and resources, it should have (nearly) everything. But nope!
And if you're a fan of that stuff, you're likely not a fan of the shit on ESPN+.
So the main bonus here is Hulu (with ads).
Disney seems to be trying to shotgun it and target some ideal of a family that doesn't really exist. Disney+ for the kids and tweens,
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Given Disney's library and resources, it should have (nearly) everything. But nope!
Remember the Disney Vault [wikipedia.org]? Their direct-to-consumer video sales have always been inflated by artificial scarcity. Scarcity in this case that will just mean staying subscribed longer as content gets dripped in and out.
What is ESPN+, you ask!? (Score:2)
The fact that what ESPN+ is must be explained in so many words is telling: nobody wants ESPN+ and would probably just as soon have a bundle without it. Much like they keep asking their cable companies if they have an option to have cable without ESPN, BET, MTV, VH1 and many other channels, but still have History, Comedy Central and Discovery before deciding that dropping cable TV is what they really need to do.
Just go with Entertainment Sports Programs Network Super! and let it go. I honestly have no idea w
What about Disney+ alone? (Score:2)
ESPN+ also carries... (Score:2)
...every CFL game, with the exception of a handful that are on the ESPN2, and it's quite popular.
There ain't shit on TeeVee anyway. (Score:2)
Fuck the MPAA (Score:1)
I don't watch sports (Score:2)
I don't watch commercials
Hulu has the shittiest user interface ever designed
I don't care much for Disney product (even though I was once an Imagineer)
Methinks I'm not going to sign up
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Because he wants to see the content?
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Because s/he can separate art and artist.
I'm sure you meant to invoke a different drama, but your words are actually from a conversation about disagreeing with authors. For a company-specific example, I don't approve of many of Apple's policies and approaches, but that doesn't mean I consider the hardware necessarily bad.
Do you look up the policies of everyone behind your consumption choices in music? Furniture? "Why would you want a coffee table made by flat-earthers?" Because it's a good coffee table.
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Do you look up the policies of everyone behind your consumption choices in music? Furniture? "Why would you want a coffee table made by flat-earthers?" Because it's a good coffee table.
You have a point, but specifically choosing not to support a company/product because of the owner's/company's policies and/or beliefs is also valid. For example:
The My Pillow [mypillow.com] pillow may, in fact, be a great product (I don't actually know), but the CEO Mike Lindell is a rabid Trump supporter, who has said (reported by The Hill [thehill.com] and others):
"God had chosen President Trump to run against Hillary Clinton ..."
[and later]
“As I stand before you today, I see the greatest president in history. Of course he is. He was chosen by God"
Ironically, this guy then did this [salon.com] in May 2019:
Mike Lindell, the Trump-loving CEO of MyPillow, announced this week that his company will be laying off 150 workers at a facility in Shakopee, Minnesota — despite the fact that he claimed months earlier that America was in an “economic boom” thanks to the president’s tax cuts.
“I value each and every one of my employees so this is a difficult decision, however this is what is best right now for the future of MyPillow and to prepare for the launch of MyStore.com,” he said. “Once MyStore is up and running, we anticipate we will be hiring.”
I simply don't want to give my money to that guy and/or his companies ... I have a similar dilemma with Chick-fil-A, the
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So far to my experience, they are insanely GREAT pillows.
I tend to be very hard on pillows and most everyone I've bought in the past would be flat and need replacing inside of about 6-8 months.
I've had these now over a year and they all recover and fluff back up, stay firm.
I've never looked really at who owns a company to see what they believe, etc...and frankly, I don't give a fuck for the most part.
A person i
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You're not wrong. In a way, I was, because I blurred an overlap between support of a private company and merely enjoying content. Giving live cash ("support") to MyPillow, as opposed to enjoying an expertly-made sculpture or opera or painting made by someone long-dead who was a Bigot Asshole Murderer etc but the craftmanship of the product can be appreciated in a vacuum.
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Geoblocking is evil and must be defeated. You are being obtuse. My offer to pay the asking price is entitlement to the service. If they refuse the payment, then that means they are offering it for free. I do not care about their "policy". I am telling them my conditions. So... it's best for everybody involved if they just take the money and shut the fuck up. That way everybody gets paid. And your panties will stay comfortable. Dig?
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I have heard that Disney+ will have international offerings.
I don't know if the same can be said for Hulu.
Re:Is it geoblocked? (Score:5, Insightful)
Does it have commercials because if yes, fuck that.
I already pay 11.99 I think for "ad free" Hulu... how much is this service going to be be ad free?
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To be fair there is no indication that you can't get Hulu on its own (for now).
Personally I think I might want the Disney service, but ESPN is probably wasted on me... but I guess if I could get it for "free" compared to having the other 2 independently it would be worth it... but ad free is not negotiable.
You know it'll have commercials (Score:2)
If they pull the same stunt on their streaming service, that'll make it a no go for me. Remember how their VHS trailers used to nearly blow out your TV speakers with that loud COMING SOON voiceover? You know they'll do whatever they can get away with on their stream
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>"Does it have commercials because if yes, fuck that."
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Total "not happening". Forced commercials = UNWATCHABLE. And adding EPSN with or without commercials, who cares... it is sports.
So you can get Disney+ without ads for $6.99. Or pay almost twice as much for the same thing, but with something added that is unwatchable and another that nobody wants to watch in the first place. Oh and NOT do it at all on many devices that won't work with the service.
Yawn.
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Oddly ESPN is the one place where comericials wouldn't be as bad... games (if you care to watch them) already have breaks in them and filling them with commercials is not really the end of the world.
That said, I don't think this package is for me (or you either from the sound of it)
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Will I have to pay for this service?
If yes, then fuck them! I'll use bittorrent instead.
Fixed
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Initially they are only planning to offer the service in the US. I expect it will expand to other countries if it is a success. But in the current environment, it is inevitable that the available programming will vary with location.
Even if Disney wanted to offer all the programming that will be available in the US everywhere, there are likely contract obligations that will prevent them from doing it. They have probably already sold the rights to some of their content to other companies, just as they have in