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Are Plant-Based Meat Alternatives Really Healthier Than Meat? (nbcnews.com) 211

Plant-based/meat-free entrees are coming to major fast-food chains including White Castle, KFC, Del Taco, the Cheesecake Factory, and Subway. There's just one problem, argues an opinion piece by a certified nutritionist at NBC News: "these offerings aren't actually any healthier." The Impossible Whopper, for instance, not only has comparable caloric and fat levels as its meat-based counterpart, but it has more salt per serving; the Del Taco options are comparable. White Castle's Impossible Slider has more calories, more fat and more sodium than the meaty original (before you add cheese to either).

In fact, when you start to compare all of these offerings to their meat-based counterparts, you realize it's the same story no matter what brands you're talking about -- you might possibly save a few calories or carbs, but you'll probably get way more salt. Switching from meat-based fast foods to meat-free, then, isn't likely to help your health.

The article acknowledges that plant-based burgers may also be better for the environment, since 14.5% of all global greenhouse gas emissions are estimated to be coming from livestock. (And it also acknowledges plant-based substitutes may be better than red meat for people fighting heart disease or type 2 diabetes.) In addition, both the Beyond Burger and the Impossible Burger do have zero cholesterol -- while a high-cholesterol diet could lead to heart attacks and strokes.

But "If eating more realistic fake meat was about health, the offerings would be far lower in salt content, contain fewer calories and have a bit less dietary fat. None of them do..."
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  • by iggymanz ( 596061 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:37PM (#59194402)

    Eating fat isn't bad, that's a stupid marketing lie when food is advertised as healthier being "low fat".

    Spiking your blood sugar levels high with carbs leads to insulin resistance and obesity. Eat more fat and protein, less carbs.

    It's also a lie that all calories are equal (simple cars, complex carbs, fat, protein) in the effects on body.

    • How dare you suggest the same thing they did in Junior high Health class in 1973?! We are much more advanced now, we know for certain that only fad dieting can provide the answers.

      • We have already identified that Carnitine is the culprit in meat-related heart disease [huffpost.com]

        They did not understand the entire pathway, but recently figured out that the gut-microbiome changes Carnitine to TMAO, which has been shown to cause cardiovascular disease. [mdedge.com]

        It is no present in fish or chicken so that has been my protein choice lately, I do not know if they put it in fake meat.

        • by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @06:42PM (#59195254)

          Actually you need both TMAO and l-carnitine, as being deficient in either has associated morbidity, and your statement about fish is also incorrect.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]

          There's a relationship between elevated TMAO and CVD, but the cause and effect isn't clear. There's also a relationship between kidney disease and high TMAO, but as somebody with CKD and a transplanted kidney myself, I'm well aware that most people with renal disease ultimately are done in by CVD, but that isn't necessarily due to TMAO, rather the body's inability to balance it's electrolytes (the most important role of the kidneys) over a long period of time takes its toll on your ticker.

          There's also plenty of research that suggests that going to the other extreme of being all vegetarian is also worse on your body overall than what meat is hypothesised to do to your cardiovascular system. Besides that, the best answer we have on whether red meat is bad on your cardiovascular system is a "probably, but we're not so sure".

          In other words, it's way more complicated than that. Also, I really like how TFS says a high cholesterol diet is bad for you, and then links to a Mayo clinic page about the effects of high blood cholesterol. Drawing such a connection, a favored argument among vegans, is a really dumb thing to do:

          https://www.healthline.com/nut... [healthline.com]

    • by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:46PM (#59194432) Journal
      Carbs aren't "bad" either, and neither are simple carbs. They give you fuel when you need it now

      Fat, protein, and carbs are all necessary macro-nutrients. Your body uses them to rebuild and keep the power systems going.
      • by Livius ( 318358 )

        No all carbs are equal. Glucose is fine; frutose actually is bad.

        • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:26PM (#59194552)

          No all carbs are equal. Glucose is fine; frutose actually is bad.

          And the reason for this is because glucose is (can be) metabolized by every cell in the body, but fructose can only be metabolized by the liver. In addition, fructose metabolism produces tri-glycerides and other "bad things" and is similar to that of alcohol metabolism but w/o the self-limiting effects of alcohol consumption. This is explained in detail in the (surprisingly interesting) 1.5 hour medical lecture below:

          Sugar: The Bitter Truth [youtube.com]

          Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Recorded on 05/26/2009. Length: 1:29

        • Glucose is fine; frutose actually is bad.

          Probably not. Eating so much fructose that you overload your normal metabolic pathways for fructose, or eating them at the exclusion of other nutrients that you need is bad, but our body has a metabolic pathway for processing fructose. We've literally evolved to be able to eat it.

          The negative focus is a problem. Instead of asking, "What food is bad?" You should ask, "what nutrients does my body need right now to do repairs and generate power?" That is a much easier way of looking at nutrition.

    • by HiThere ( 15173 ) <charleshixsn@@@earthlink...net> on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:37PM (#59194752)

      "carbs" is also too simplistic. You shouldn't chose excessive starch or sugar, but fiber is good for you, though you shouldn't be excessive about soluble fiber either.

      That said, there's nothing wrong with a minimal amount of starch, and even sugar, in extreme moderation, isn't too bad.

      Sugars and starches allow one to feel "fed" quickly. Fat satiates over a longer period of time. Protein is nearly best...but too much is hard on the kidneys, and it takes awhile to feel like you've eaten. I don't know that there's any evidence that dietary cholesterol is associated with level of blood cholesterol.

      There's a reason dietary guides usually say "eat a variety". But commercial foods usually push sugar and starch, because they're relatively cheap, and after them fat, because it's the next cheapest.

      • by Corbets ( 169101 )

        There is no evidence hat protein is bad for a fully-functioning, healthy kidney. There was a hypothesis, based on kidneys that were already having problems, that large quantities of protein was bad for kidneys, but it has failed to pan out in studies.

    • Nor does "cholesterol" that you eat change your circulating (blood) cholesterol level. Nothing that you eat can possibly affect the amount of cholesterol circulating in the bloodstream. The amount of cholesterol circulating in your blood is solely determined by the manufacturer of that cholesterol -- the liver -- and the various biofeedback mechanisms that control the amount of cholesterol produced by the liver.

      The fact that you are alive today indicates that your ancestors had the genetic mutation that a

    • by fermion ( 181285 )
      It is not all that cut and dry. Simple carbs can elevate blood sugar, but complex carbs, like hulled barley has very positive health effect, especially in diabetes and obesity.

      We really don't know and we still are learning. it was not that long ago when we were told we had to drink milk so our bones would grow strong. We then learned that the high protein content of milk impeded absorption of calcium, so it was really just a lie created by the dairy industry to sell milk to kids, kids who in the US pop

    • by zieroh ( 307208 )

      But "If eating more realistic fake meat was about health, the offerings would be far lower in salt content, contain fewer calories and have a bit less dietary fat. None of them do..."

      That's called "salad".

  • The real case... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sajavete ( 5054387 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:38PM (#59194404)
    ... against animal meat isn't human health, it's against quasi-sentient murder and overtaxing our as-of-yet-irreplaceable life support system.
    • humans are the only thing that matter. Raising livestock is an ag engineering issue, nothing more. the people have earth already decided we'll keep doing it, there are no insurmountable problems

    • by Empiric ( 675968 )

      And that's a real problem, particularly for hominids whose Naturalism worldview offers no material basis for being other than quasi-human.

      I encourage you to continue to argue in your self-interest, per how you "self-identify".

    • Actually... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by mschaffer ( 97223 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:26PM (#59194554)

      Actually the real case is that some very noisy people don't want you to eat meat. The volume and quality of noise varies from source to source, but you did hit one or two of them.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        Actually the real case is that some very noisy people don't want you to eat meat.

        Finally a genuine ad homenim! These people are $BADTHING therefore by implication their argument is wrong.

        • It's not wrong. I just don't give a fuck.

          • It's not wrong. I just don't give a fuck.

            That's nice but since you're not the OP, your "opinions" aren't really relevant to what he said.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            You don't give a fuck about the planet you are dependent on for sustaining your life, and the life of your family and children and everyone you care about. OK.

            Anyway this is good, we might get replicators out of it one day.

      • Meat is nothing more than concentrated vegetables.

    • ... against animal meat isn't human health, it's against quasi-sentient murder and overtaxing our as-of-yet-irreplaceable life support system.

      People might have a different opinion of cows after seeing them behave more like dogs ...

      Cow Plays Fetch Just Like A Dog [youtube.com]
      Cows Acting Like Dogs & More [youtube.com]

      Or simply Google: cows like dogs [google.com]

  • by cliffjumper222 ( 229876 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:40PM (#59194414)

    And I don't care. If I'm eating a burger I'm not eating it to be healthy but to fill me up and make me feel good. The Impossible and Beyond Burgers do that in multiple ways.

    • More importantly, these fake burgers are engineered recipes, not an "as is" product. They can and will tweak them and make different versions.

      It would not be really hard to slowly reduce fat and salt by tiny increments once the market share is really there. Our taste buds are surprisingly shitty. Once we think we know what something tastes like we can be pretty easily fooled by a very similar product.

      Heme was the big breakthrough, and being able to get yeast to spit it out was the major technological feat t

      • Heme ingestion is strongly associated with colorectal and esophageal cancers. Heme is what gives these fake meats the "true meat flavor". I just find it difficult to believe that the FDA will continue to allow these producers to inject a known carcinogen into their products. I'm frankly a bit shocked that the media has not picked up on this aspect.

        One can find several scientific studies at nih.gov regarding heme's cancer risk.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Actually that's a good reason to care - if there is demand they will keep developing their burgers to be more healthy, and one day healthy food might fill the fast food role.

  • Missing the point (Score:2, Insightful)

    by darthsilun ( 3993753 )
    How much water and other stuff does it take to raise a pound of beef? Versus how much to make the ingredients in a pound of Impossible or Beyond?

    Come back when you know the answer. And why the answer matters.
    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      A lot of that depends on government policy. If land use is restricted to protect some pet endangered species, then cattle grazing is forced onto smaller remaining pastures*. And needs to be supplemented with farm grown feed. Likewise, if you switch to soya based beef replacements, that will increase the demand for Amazon rain forest to be converted to agricultural use.

      *The ideal use of livestock is to graze on grass land that is little improved over its natural state. But to do that, you have to spread the

    • That's a different question. Maybe an interesting one, but has nothing to do with health.

      • That's a different question. Maybe an interesting one, but has nothing to do with health.

        Still missing the point.

        Stay obsessed on the health aspect if you want. That isn't why Impossible and Beyond were invented.

        Sounds to me like someone shorted Beyond and is trying to get the market to fix his mistake for him.

    • How much water and other stuff does it take to raise a pound of beef?

      How much to raise a person? I'm not saying we should/n't eat people (especially now the Soylent [soylent.com] isn't people, unlike in the 1970's [wikipedia.org] ), but maybe raising fewer people would help the planet more...

      • How much to raise a person? I'm not saying we should/n't eat people (especially now the Soylent isn't people, unlike in the 1970's ), but maybe raising fewer people would help the planet more...

        I am saying we shouldn't eat people.

        What people seem to forget about the Soylent Green story was that the producers of Soylent offered this product in various types, identified by color. The different colors were of different quality and the newest product, Soylent Green, was supposed to be the best they offered but was available in limited quantities.

        We are now seeing people advocate for the eating of meat from dead people, and I find this not just revolting on many levels but also a sign of just how insa

        • by I4ko ( 695382 )

          There is nothing immoral, revolting or insane about eating *dead* people any more than pumping all that ready energy full of poisons and putting them in a cask that will never degrade. You spend enormous amounts of energy (forming the molecular bonds) to build and maintain that human body, it contains an enormous amount of energy locked (again in the molecular bonds), preventing that energy from returning back to the biosphere should be a crime. The rest of the planet does not embalm people and buries in bi

  • The cost of meat alternatives are higher than meat. Until that changes it wont be successful.
  • by Johnny Loves Linux ( 1147635 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:50PM (#59194458)

    I first stumbled on this video 8 years ago, "The Bitter Truth About Sugar" by Dr. Robert Lustig. He's an endocrinologist specializing in childhood obesity. It's a long video and he goes through the history of fructose consumption in the U.S. and gives statistics demonstrating the correlation between fructose and weight, but correlation does not imply causation. In the last 19 minutes he goes through the explicit metabolic responses by the human body to ingesting fructose. That convinced me to listen.

    So I tried the experiment: severely restrict the amount of sugar (fructose to be precise, not glucose) in my diet: no soda, no candy, no ice cream, no fruit juices that weren't freshly squeezed by myself. The result: I went from 268 lbs. down to 205 lbs in approximately 4 months. He convinced me. The experiment was a success.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • by Livius ( 318358 )

      Excellent video, and transripts and legal torrents are easy to find.

      One example: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/31243591/Transcript_-_Sugar_The_Bitter_Truth.html

      • there's plenty out there to debunk his claims [duckduckgo.com]. I think it comes down more to not eating a lot of junk food, and adding sugar to food is a great way to hide low quality ingredients. It's why you'll find so much of it in cheap canned soups.
    • I've noticed that most diets which make you think hard about what you're eating have weight-loss effects, whether it's keto diets or gluten-free diets or vegan diets or HFCS-free diets. I'm starting to wonder whether they're successful for a common reason: Maybe making you put a lot of extra mental effort into eating ("Are there any animal products on this inscrutable ingredient list?") leads to less eating, which leads to weight loss.

      I could well be wrong.

      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        That's a component, but sugar and starches have and additional mode of operation that is independent of that. Sugars more-so than starches, but starches too.

        Please note I'm not using the overgeneral "carbs" because fiber is quite important to a healthy diet.

    • I first stumbled on this video 8 years ago, "The Bitter Truth About Sugar" by Dr. Robert Lustig.

      I just posted about this too, and have several times over the past few years. Very informative lecture.

    • by mvdwege ( 243851 )

      So I tried the experiment: severely restrict the amount of sugar (fructose to be precise, not glucose) in my diet: [...] no fruit juices that weren't freshly squeezed by myself.

      You do realise why it is called fructose, right?

    • who eat a metric fuck ton of rice, which is mostly sugar.

      Yes, cutting down on sugar helps. That's because you restrict your diet. What matters is getting a balanced diet rich in nutrients and low in calories. You dropped 60+ lbs because you stopped eating junk food. I did the same thing myself. We humans are really, really good at storing calories. One soda a day is 200 extra calories. That'll eventually get you to 260lbs, where most people top out (the amount of calories needed to maintain your weight
  • Evolution has programmed humans to like fat and carbs - until there's a healthy alternative to them that people respond to, then you turn off people.

    If it's better for the environment and provide a healthier option for people with heart disease and diabetes, then it sounds like it's a (small) step in the right direction.

    • by sjames ( 1099 )

      Except that they load it with so much salt that nobody with heart disease can eat it without ignoring doctor's advice.

      • by religionofpeas ( 4511805 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:12PM (#59194502)

        Japanese diet is very high in salt, but life expectancy is at the top of the list. Just looking at salt is too simplistic.

        • by HiThere ( 15173 )

          The Japanese also tend to be rather thin. You need to factor this into your calculations. (Sumo wrestlers don't eat a nearly normal Japanese diet.)

      • Except that they load it with so much salt that nobody with heart disease can eat it without ignoring doctor's advice.

        Apparently, the jury's still out on this... From Is Salt Actually Bad for You? [healthline.com]:

        There is some evidence showing that high salt intake may be associated with an increased risk of certain conditions like stomach cancer or high blood pressure.

        Despite this, there are several studies showing that a reduced-salt diet may not actually decrease the risk of heart disease or death.

        A large 2011 review made up of seven studies found that salt reduction had no effect on the risk of heart disease or death (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21731062).

        Another review with over 7,000 participants showed that reduced salt intake did not affect the risk of death and had only a weak association with the risk of heart disease (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25519688).

        However, the effect of salt on the risk of heart disease and death may vary for certain groups.

        For example, one large study showed that a low-salt diet was associated with a reduced risk of death but only in overweight individuals (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2071962/).

        Meanwhile, another study actually found that a low-salt diet increased the risk of death by 159% in those with heart failure (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21731062).

        My doctor once told me that too much salt is a problem for people who are sensitive to it, but seems to have less/minimal impact for those who aren't. [ So, I guess, take all this with a grain of salt, unless it's a problem for you. :-) ]

        • by sjames ( 1099 )

          Nevertheless, if you are diagnosed with high blood pressure, you will be told to restrict your sodium intake. If your medication for any heart condition includes a diuretic, you will be sodium restricted (not much controversy there, salt is basically an anti-diuretic).

          The only real question is how harmful or not it is to the population that does not currently need treatment.

  • Killing animals (Score:3, Insightful)

    by EzInKy ( 115248 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:59PM (#59194476)

    The obvious goal here is to wipe out all the herds of animals we raise and care for. There is a reason some animals were so willing to be domesticated, and that reason is that it favored the survival of their species versus remaining feral.

  • by renegade600 ( 204461 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:00PM (#59194478)

    only time will tell if fake meat is healthier than real meat. Fake sugar was launched with great fanfare stating how good and healthy it was for you. Decades later, they are just finding out there can be an increased risk of diabetes and other health problems. The same goes with the fake meat - who knows what health problems will appear years later

    • they are just finding out there can be an increased risk of diabetes and other health problems.

      I'm willing to bet they did not find an actual causal link, just associations.

    • There is no evidence that artificial sweeteners cause health problems. Only a bunch of BS studies that study correlations. Nobody established a specific link that makes them "bad".

  • Not all rosy ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by kbahey ( 102895 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:15PM (#59194514) Homepage

    The plant based burger patties have palm oil, which has a significant social and environmental impact [wikipedia.org].

    • All our food has social and environmental impact.

      My country is densely populated and wiped out the vast majority of old growth forest a long long time ago. I'm not willing to contribute to paying the third world trillions a year to conserve their forests, so in return I don't expect them to treat their forests any better than my forefathers did.

      If we get more calories from Malaysia and Indonesia we can get less calories elsewhere, they can plant trees there.

    • Comment removed (Score:4, Informative)

      by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:59PM (#59194830)
      Comment removed based on user account deletion
      • by kbahey ( 102895 )

        Thanks.

        I stand corrected. Perhaps I misread or mistook coconut oil as palm oil.

        Canola is more sustainable, since it is grown in prairie land, not by felling trees.
        Coconut oil, I don't know, but it is a natural tree, and I assume in its native range, so less harmful than palm oil ...

        Much better that way ...

  • When you make something like that, you make it as healthy as you want it to be. Keeping in mind artificial meat is mostly designed to be tasty and meatlike rather than healthy, people want and choose tasty. Real meat is just as healthy as meat and can't change much about it beyond relatively minor effects from the animal's diet.

    • When you make something like that, you make it as healthy as you want it to be.

      The goal of these products is to make as much money as possible. The solution is cheap filler ingredients, combined with high-tech texture agents and flavoring.

    • by HiThere ( 15173 )

      I can tell you've never eaten a steak from an old goat or a ram.

  • No, but... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by mschaffer ( 97223 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:29PM (#59194562)

    Are Plant-Based Meat Alternatives Really Healthier Than Meat? Of course not, because they were not developed to be a healthy alternative. Rather, they were developed to cash-in on the movement that want's people to stop eating meat.

  • By eating plant-based meat alternatives you would get:

    * No sodium nitrite (E250 in Europe),
    * No hydrocyclic amines (HCA), and
    * No polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH)

    All three are well-known to increase the risk of getting intestinal cancer.

    Sodium nitrite is an additive in a whole lot of meat products, which is there because of historical reasons: it makes meat red and producers are afraid that consumers would not buy meat that does not look like what they are used to. More than half a century ago, it us

    • Sodium nitrite has been historically used to preserve meats (sausages, hams, etc). The meat color is only a nice by-product of this process. It's not a historical mistake. It doesn't go into steaks or hamburgers. Moreover, its danger is wildly exaggerated. It's been now shown that nitrites happen naturally in plants and most of human intake of those comes from plants. (Ever wonder how they make "uncured bacon"? They use celery extract which does the same as curing meat with nitrates).

    • by mvdwege ( 243851 )

      To all your points should be added: "In the USA.".

      The US meat industry is, viewed from a trading bloc with sane food standards, a complete mess.

  • by walterbyrd ( 182728 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:42PM (#59194610)

    Real meat is usually not eaten unseasoned.

    A vegan diet certainly can be high in salt, fat, or sugar; but in the final analysis, I think most vegan diets are healthier than most omnivorous diets. Vegans tend to have lower cholesterol, better BMI, lower blood pressure, and so on.

    Usually, vegans eat processed food in moderation. Although it's changing, Americans especially are known to eat meat three times a day, and often in huge portions.

    • Salting meat does not mean that it has to be unhealthy. A healthy daily intake of sodium is 2000-2500 milligrams a day. Now, cooking salt is 40 percent or so sodium by weight. That means, 4000-5000 milligrams of salt can be consumed daily by an adult healthy individual.

      Now, salt is critical to revealing the taste of meats, but it takes only about half a teaspoon of _coarse_ salt (it weights less than table salt) to season a 1 pound steak. A serving size of a steak should be about half a pound per adult, wh

  • If you get fat, you can get thin; if your arteries clog, that's it for you.
  • Junk food (Score:5, Insightful)

    by VeryFluffyBunny ( 5037285 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @02:57PM (#59194650)

    The headline should read, "Junk Food Is Bad for You Even When It's Vegetarian or Vegan."

    I guess some people need reminding that it's called junk food for a reason. If you want to eat healthily, try foods that have some decent nutritional content.

    • Hello? Hamburger is not junk food. There is nothing wrong with cooking seasoned ground meat (which is what a hamburger is)

      But maybe sodas and french fries are junk (shockingly your order of french fries can often contain more calories, salt, and bad fats than the hamburger sandwich itself).

  • Let me know when there is broccoli flavored meat.

    That's not going to happen. Ever.

  • I have the feeling that whether they're healthier doesn't matter at all. Those that eat meat will eat meat or I-can't-believe-it's-not-meat based on which one is cheaper and/or tastier. Those that don't eat meat will eat them because they don't want to eat meat because they don't want to eat meat.

    Which one is healthier doesn't even enter the equation.

    • I agree. The two factors which make people reduce meat intake are
      - because they see it as against animal cruelty
      - because they see it as against climate change or sometimes ecological footprint.
      Then there are those who do it on principle. They tend to be more absolutist.
      And those who just reduce the amount of meat they eat. At home we've reduced the amount of meat. It's annoying how guilt seeps into everything.

      • - because they see it as against climate change or sometimes ecological footprint.

        Next time you run into such people, please remind them that they can move to the state of Washington, kill themselves, and have their body converted into compost. This will reduce their carbon footprint to zero, and their inflamed brain will never has to spend X-hours a day calculating the carbon footprint of each decision taken in their life.

  • I tried a veggie burger something like 20 years ago, and my immediate impression was "this is salty as hell". They've come so far and I've heard rave reviews. Maybe they just masked the salty taste, if that's even possible. Oh well. I wasn't that interested anyway. I tend to be conservative about stuff like this. There are plenty of other willing guinea pigs who want to try these highly processed nouveau foods. 20 years from now, we might find out that they're as healthy as hydrogenated oil.

  • by duke_cheetah2003 ( 862933 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @04:08PM (#59194856) Homepage

    But "If eating more realistic fake meat was about health, the offerings would be far lower in salt content, contain fewer calories and have a bit less dietary fat. None of them do..."

    But that's just the thing. Eating fake meat currently has nothing to do with it being healthier than real meat. It's about reducing the amount of livestock we're raising and slaughtering for food. It's also about it being tasting as good as the real thing, to the point of it being impossible to tell the difference between real and fake. At least that was my take-away from this new fad.

    As far as I know, I've not seen anything suggesting these new phony-meats being healthier than their real counterparts. It's all about reducing cow farts.

  • "major fast-food chains White Castle, KFC, Del Taco, Cheesecake Factory, Subway."

    One of these is not like the other. Cheesecake factory is about as far as you can get from fast food.

The unfacts, did we have them, are too imprecisely few to warrant our certitude.

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