CNN To Pay Largest Labor Fine In History For Firing Technicians (nlrb.gov) 86
DesScorp writes: The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) has handed down a ruling against CNN for firing video technicians illegally back in 2003. From the NLRB: "As part of a settlement signed today, CNN has agreed to pay $76 million in backpay, the largest monetary remedy in the history of the National Labor Relations Board. The backpay amount, larger than what the Agency collects on average in a typical year, is expected to benefit over 300 individuals.
The dispute originated in 2003 when CNN terminated a contract with Team Video Services (TVS), a company that had been providing CNN video services in Washington, D.C., and New York City. After terminating the contract, CNN hired new employees to perform the same work without recognizing or bargaining with the two unions that had represented the TVS employees. CNN sought to operate as a nonunion workplace and conveyed to the workers that their prior employment with TVS and union affiliation disqualified them from employment. After a lengthy hearing in 2008, an administrative law judge found that CNN's actions violated the National Labor Relations Act and that CNN was a successor to, and joint employer with, TVS. [...] The parties are the National Labor Relations Board, CNN America, Inc., and Local 11 and Local 31 of the National Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians (NABET), Communications Workers of America (CWA), AFL-CIO."
The dispute originated in 2003 when CNN terminated a contract with Team Video Services (TVS), a company that had been providing CNN video services in Washington, D.C., and New York City. After terminating the contract, CNN hired new employees to perform the same work without recognizing or bargaining with the two unions that had represented the TVS employees. CNN sought to operate as a nonunion workplace and conveyed to the workers that their prior employment with TVS and union affiliation disqualified them from employment. After a lengthy hearing in 2008, an administrative law judge found that CNN's actions violated the National Labor Relations Act and that CNN was a successor to, and joint employer with, TVS. [...] The parties are the National Labor Relations Board, CNN America, Inc., and Local 11 and Local 31 of the National Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians (NABET), Communications Workers of America (CWA), AFL-CIO."
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Why even fucking bother?
Well if the fired people in the settlement get their share, I can think of about 253K reasons to bother
I am curious about the cut the lawyers and union will take though.
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Between them and the union the workers aren't going to get shit but assurances that justice has prevailed.
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300 people backpay for 17 years, $79 million is the right ballpark.
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300 people backpay for 17 years, $79 million is the right ballpark.
They haven't been standing in the unemployment line for 17 years. Their actual damages are nowhere near full back pay.
Anyway, $79M over 17 years for 300 people is $15,500 annually, with is barely minimum wage. After a 30% cut for the lawyers, this is much less than full back pay.
The nerve! (Score:2)
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'After a 30% cut for the lawyers'
The article states 76 million in back pay.
' The backpay amount, larger than what the Agency collects on average in a typical year, is expected to benefit over 300 individuals'
Sounds to me the amount is what is to be distributed to the 300 complaints. Good for each of them to have a 1/4 mil in a pile, sad
that it's taxable.
How much longer will the vast majority of people working for the FANGs, receiving pay from others have to wait?
Re: 17 years later (Score:2)
Don't kid yourself (Score:5, Interesting)
The Bias isn't right or left, it's establishment vs anti-establishment. That's why Bernie gets so little coverage.
As for those free lancers, most folks would rather have a shot at a career and a full time job than some pocket money to spend while living with their folks. Why do you think the law passed?
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They care about one thing and one thing only: money. More specifically getting money for their owners.
Then they're doing a shit job of it [washingtonexaminer.com].
That's why Bernie gets so little coverage.
They don't like Bernie because the DNC doesn't like Bernie and CNN wants to be their lap dogs for whatever pathetic reason. That's why they fed debate questions to Hillary [nypost.com].
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They don't like Bernie because the DNC doesn't like Bernie and CNN wants to be their lap dogs for whatever pathetic reason
We already know the reason, CNN is part of the establishment.
You misunderstood me (Score:1)
CNN isn't trying to make money by selling ads. They're a propaganda arm of the DNC (which is itself made up of the right wing, pro-corporate Democrats).
After the Labor movement, Civil Rights movement & Vietnam the ruling class bought out all mass media so they could control the narrative. Go look up Sinclair Media's acquisition of local TV Stations and "Sinclair Must Run".
The real money in news isn't selling adverts, it's tricking you and me into voting against our
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Why are you repeating Briebart and Alex Jones liberal conspiracy theories?
Sorry I still don't think you're getting it (Score:2)
As as Gore Vidal said, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a conspiracy analyst. I mean, it's not like anyones trying to hide what's going on [youtube.com].
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I am liberal and our ideologies mostly alliagn. I am very aware of Noqm Chompskys work. But you are misinterpreting his fears and making the far rights attack on free press more credible.
Chompskys theory is based off media by big corporations being right and pro corporate in orgin as they would benefit of tax cuts, deregulation, and anti unions and be conservatively biased.
What Trump and the far right and Fox News has done is convinced that the free press is the problem owned by George Soros to try to imple
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Who the fuck keeps modding these crazy right wing comments about a liberal socialist network coup? Just because you repeat to yourselves that all news but Fox is owned by Soros in a conspiracy by the Democrats doesn't make it any more true.
Right wing think tanks started this 20 years ago and the fact it's sprouted as fact now in slashdot is very disturbing.
Take your meds folks.
Hillary, is that you? (Score:3)
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Why even fucking bother?
it's because people bothered that you get to live in luxury with reasonable working conditions ... so many people today are completely ungrateful for the many sacrifices that our forefathers made and the brutal labor conditions that would still exist if they hadn't
a lot of people these days are spoiled rotten, selfish, greedy and ingrates, it's really no wonder the world's going to hell, thanks
No comment from CNN? (Score:4, Interesting)
Funny thing is, you cannot find this story anywhere on CNN.
I tried searching for NLRB, Team Video Services, TVS. No dice.
Wouldn't you think they'd be able to cover this story? Fake news???
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Fake News? Isn't that just the same as Inconvenient News?
Re:No comment from CNN? (Score:4, Interesting)
Funny thing is, you cannot find this story anywhere on CNN.
Yes, that is very strange.
But I can't find it on Fox or MSNBC either. [*shrug*]
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Is it? Does Fox News report on scandals at Fox News?
I doubt it. And if they did, I wouldn't expect them to be impartial.
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My point was that these three networks usually don't spare each other when bad news surfaces about one of them. So the lack of coverage on all three is strange.
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Should we file this under "Plantifs claim victory!"?
Anybody with Lexis access able to find the ruling?
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Uh, anybody able to find this on the AP Wire?
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MediaBuzz (on FNC) and Reliable Sources (on CNN) are both due to air tomorrow morning... seems like both should have this story if true.
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Uh, tech note there... MSNBC.com doesn't post news anymore, just comments from the TV people. NBCNews.com took over the news responsibilities.
Re: No comment from CNN? (Score:1)
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Fox News is pure entertainment and propoganda disguised as news
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Yeah, there's a lot of BS on it, but there's a lot of BS on CNN and MSNBC. There's also real news on them all.
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A news site can be evaluated on bias as well as reliability. I find this graph to be very interesting. [adfontesmedia.com] It shows that Fox News has a bigger reliability issue than CNN and MSNBC.
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Well, that is an interesting chart, but you also have to consider the source. adfontesmedia won't publish their "proprietary algorithm", so in spite of the claims they make on their site, we don't have any way to judge their own accuracy, or bias.
Not sure I agree with this. (Score:4, Interesting)
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Unions have no right to demand jobs... CNN was able to do without these workers for 17 years.
Re: Not sure I agree with this. (Score:2)
Those filthy deplorable plebs should be grateful - grateful I say! - that we allow them to work long hours for low pay with no security while we _real people_ get rich on their backs!!
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I don't understand CNN's actions. Were the details of their contract with TVS being changed by the union after it was agreed upon by both parties? Was the contract up for renewal and CNN not able to agree to the new terms the union was making TSV ask of them? The first scenario should allow CNN to terminate the contract because TSV was trying to make changes after the fact, and the second should allow CNN to walk away from the negotiations with no problem. As for CNN wanting the union out of the picture
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Were the details of their contract with TVS being changed by the union after it was agreed upon by both parties?
Silly questions like that don't even need to be asked. That isn't how contracts work.
But, I see no problem with saying if you're union, you aren't qualified for this job.
Who cares? The relevant question is if it is legal, not if you would write the rule that way if you were king of the world.
Re: Not sure I agree with this. (Score:1)
"why in hell would they want to work for that company?"
To pay the rent.
"And if a company is so bad to their workers, why in hell hasn't that company either gone out of business for lack of workers,"
For many classes of workers the economy has been in a depression since the mid 1970s.
"or been taken to court by enough workers to force them to change?"
That's what happened here. Alas, the price of access to "justice" is exorbitant, far beyond the means of individual workers not organized for collective action.
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"For many classes of workers the economy has been in a depression since the mid 1970s."
Huh...please explain.
Re: Not sure I agree with this. (Score:1)
Open your eyes, Dr Pangloss. The depression isn't reported in the New York Pravda or on the Cable Propaganda Network. But it's right in front of your eyes if you care to look.
Oh wait, I forgot:. "I got mine - so screw you all!"
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Awaiting a real answer vice drivel.
Re:Not sure I agree with this. (Score:5, Insightful)
That was the argument: "As detailed below, through the extensive requirements CNN placed on TVS through the [Electronic News Gathering Service Agreements], its decisive role in TVS’ collective-bargaining negotiations and its direct role in the assignment, direction, and supervision of the TVS employees, CNN exerted significant control over the essential terms and conditions of employment of the TVS employees."
https://www.chamberlitigation.... [chamberlitigation.com]
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That seems appeal-able. TVS hired the union, CNN felt TVS was charging too much, so CNN went around TVS.
Re:Not sure I agree with this. (Score:5, Insightful)
But you can't then disqualify new potential employees for being part of, or previously having been part of (and most likely to organize another) union.
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The quote was from the 2014 decision, which was appealed and mostly upheld.
Double whammy (Score:5, Informative)
CNN also settled out of court, for an undisclosed sum, the Covington Catholic High School case. The plaintiffs were seeking $275 million in the case, and they had a very, very strong case. Although the amount isn't known, it is probably $100 million or more. Cases for similar amounts are still pending against NBC and The Washington Post.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07... [cnn.com]
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Hahahahhaha. Without bias. That's fucking rich.
Re:Double whammy (Score:4, Insightful)
No kidding. These companies exist to push agendas. Objective reporting, just the facts, is dead in the large outlets. I go between anger, annoyance, and disbelief on a regular basis. Even Slashdot isn't immune but at least the comments section lets us call out the bullshit.
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Call it out, or add to it.
There is no such thing as objectivity. (Score:2)
It is a physically impossible feat for a brain. Due to how neurons work. Or any life, for that matter, given relativity and such.
Let alone for social beings, that would be unfit to live, wouldn't they just trust what they are told. (Have you personally checked if you die when falling from a 20-story building?)
All there is, is people lying about the distortions they personally have, and people falling for it, before the Internet.
"News" have always been 90% disguised press releases and 10% investigative jour
Objective solutions to problems of journalism? (Score:2)
Two-thirds of the way through the relatively active discussion to find this reply, eh? Only mention of "journalism" in the discussion, though the reply chain goes back to the first post. Or should I blame the moderation and lack thereof?
Don't get me wrong. I actually think it's a productive branch of the discussion. If I ever had a mod point to give, I might well have given one here in lieu of a comment. (Say... Maybe the reason I never get mod points is to nudge me towards commenting? Except that I can't e
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Citation?
All news being a liberal conspiracy is as crazy rant by Rush Limbaugh that has spread like gospel because said it is in confirmation bias.
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The link says the content and site are property of James O'Keefe. A simple Google search he is biased and one of the nutters I am talking about as he has been accused of creative video editing.
My citation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... [wikipedia.org]
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Yeah, that socialism is really not working out for most of Europe. I bet they hate not going broke when they get cancer.
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Do they like dying earlier than they should because Europe isn't inventing cancer cures at a faster rate with their control of evil profits?
Thanks for the net effect of mass murder, Europe. Again.
Re: All woke now (Score:2)
There ya go, miss the point, expand the argument, and troll for mod points.
Alphabet/Google/et al are in league work the American Left, which loves the global leftist movement - when it suits them. And while unions are the darling of the Left, Alphabet seemingly didn't actually want any in their business. Not for thee, but for me.
Health Care in socialist economies have done interesting things. Since calling it 'national' doesn't really change the reality that health care costs money, the questions remain, wh
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Yup, the Socialist Network seems to not much like unions in real life.
Not for thee, but for me. The Socialist result.
Has there ever been a self-proclaimed "Communist" or "Socialist" nation that was pro-union? Socialist Poland vs Lech Walesa and the Solidarity union seems normal to me. When the government hands out all the jobs, or sets wages, then protesting over pay or working conditions means you're anti-government, and since it's all just a lie to seize power, there's no worse crime in a Socialist nation than being against totalitarian government power. Downright counter-revolutionary!
Mostly off topic, but damn, Lec [wikipedia.org]
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Totalitarian, centralized government will never love unions unless they control the unions. Anyone who competes with the totalitarian for power is the enemy.
Unions are not necessarily driven by political ideology. Unions are for the unions. Whatever political party or bloc favors them gets their support. Whatever constrains them becomes their enemy. Walesa fought against Communism, while labor unions in Greensboro, South Carolina were caught up in communism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
You know it is trivial to dox you, right? (Score:2)
Your website has all the information.
We can even dox your wife.
Now I'm not your kind of people, so I would never do that. ... I'd better be more careful.
But if there is somebody like you among the readers
(Jeez, using a wedding photo on Slashdot ... some people... )
Re: You know it is trivial to dox you, right? (Score:2)
'Your kind of people'? You think I dox people?
Not that you could possibly even guess that. But you're close, because I am the 'kind of people' that would be shortened screamed at, harassed, struck, and shot at for what I believe. And I'm not the 'kind of people' who would, nor ever have, done so to any so disagree with me. Argue yes. I've been insulting, unfortunately, but physical violence, no. And doxing, etc, no.
Say it ain't so! (Score:2)
CNN, the people's network, the Democrat bulwark against capitalist exploiters, found guilty of capitalist exploitation?
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I seem to remember in 2016 that CNN wasn't exactly piloting Trump's bandwagon. It was wall to wall for much the same reason people turn into the news for train wrecks, plane crashes and natural disasters, but with a political twist.
You may be right, however, that their coverage may have contributed to Trump's election. People aren't so stupid to see that there is a strong left bias in mass media, Fox being the sole exception to that trend. If there's one way to get Americans to do something you don't want t
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Morpheus turns to look at you, sunglasses reflecting a dingy room. "What if I told you it wouldn't have happened with a Democratic president?"
They're Murican. (Score:2)
It's in their "genes". ^^
TFA not there... (Score:2)
Uhm... what's going on here? [nlrb.gov] Seems like they've crashed.
Fuck the system (Score:2)
LOL delicious irony here (Score:2)
Ted Turner isn't the people's champion as much as we are led to believe I guess.
Justice is served (Score:2)
Just 17 short years later. Wonder how many of the affected employees are deceased by now.
Seems like a legal losing streak for CNN this week (Score:2)
They also settled a lawsuit for defamation with Covington kid Nicholas Sandmann [foxnews.com].
One wonders how long a news network with less than a million primetime viewers can afford to hemorrhage money until AT&T pulls the plug.
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