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Glenn Greenwald Charged With Cybercrimes in Brazil (nytimes.com) 74

Posted by msmash from the breaking-news dept.
Federal prosecutors in Brazil on Tuesday charged the American journalist Glenn Greenwald with cybercrimes for his role in the spreading of cellphone messages that have embarrassed prosecutors and tarnished the image of an anti-corruption task force. The New York Times: In a criminal complaint made public on Tuesday, prosecutors in the capital, Brasilia, accused Mr. Greenwald of being part of a "criminal organization" that hacked into the cellphones of several prosecutors and other public officials last year. The Intercept Brazil, a news organization Mr. Greenwald co-founded, has published several stories based on a trove of leaked messages he received last year.
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  • As good as Greenwald's intentions may have been, nothing will change. It is ruled by bankers like everybody else. It is under a coup government, basically the same old military shit that has been in power since Columbus discovered Rio.

    • Re: If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:5, Insightful)

      by fbobraga ( 1612783 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @11:51AM (#59641046) Homepage
      I'm Brazilian: seems you don't know the charges, it's ridiculously based on nothing (besides ideology)

    • Re: If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Type44Q ( 1233630 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @12:14PM (#59641140)
      For real; this just shows that he's an actual journalist.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by shanen ( 462549 )

        For real; this just shows that he's an actual journalist.

        I concur and wish I could give you a favorable mod point (but I never get any to give).

        However, I would note that I don't regard him as an especially skillful journalist. He is mostly too principled and too visible to evade the targeting for increased censorship. If he were a better journalist I think he would be more effective, but mostly he gets laughed off by the dictators like Trump and Bolsonaro.

        • Re: If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:5, Interesting)

          by Baleet ( 4705757 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @01:18PM (#59641386)

          However, I would note that I don't regard him as an especially skillful journalist. He is mostly too principled and too visible to evade the targeting for increased censorship. If he were a better journalist I think he would be more effective, but mostly he gets laughed off by the dictators like Trump and Bolsonaro.

          How is a journalist not effective because he can't change the mind of a dictator? All journalists can do, by definition, is to inform. It is up to the people to make use of the information. I would say that, by the definition of what journalists actually do, Greenwald is more effective than most. Bringing Snowden's information to the public--that alone earns him a place alongside Woodward and Bernstein or Ida Tarbell.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by shanen ( 462549 )

            You're really boggling my mind there. By what chain of reasoning can you imagine that conclusion from what I wrote?

            Let's throw it open. You can send your AI, brilliantly programmed, no doubt, to search through all of my public statements over the decades and I will bet you cannot find or proclaim any justification for your "reply".

            Except for projection. That always works, eh? At least you must think so. For that reason I'll just go ahead and skip the suggestion of your asking for clarification of what you s

      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by FABrizzolla ( 2876859 )

        For real; this just shows that he's an actual journalist.

        Just be careful about how you classify an journalist, because by definition the journalism should be impartial and give more than just one political biased opinion about the data. The ENTIRE Intercept interpretation was not 100% true because, despite what the left wings are telling you, Lula's criminal judgement was entirely reviewed by an different tribunal and he got +3 more years for active corruption. Greenwald is very well known by its socialism/communism sympathy and active participation on events ab

        • Re: If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:5, Insightful)

          by samkass ( 174571 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @03:12PM (#59641902) Homepage Journal

          The primary job of a journalist is to give accurate, independently verified information in a publicly accessible format. Having sympathies and biases means you're human, but publishing verified information at least keeps journalists from becoming pure propaganda, one way or the other. "True and verifiable" are far more worthy goals for journalists than, say, "fair and balanced" (or trying to be too "impartial") here in the real world.

        • Seems like there's more to this than meets the eye.

        • Well, many of the things that you say can be seen quite differently if we don't just see it all from your particular political views:

          - Lula was found guilty without proof, solely based on the testimony of a witness (just imagine if Trump's impeachment went forward with just one testimony, much worse if he was jailed just in that). And the 'deep convictions' of the judge, as he wrote himdelf. Said judge, Moro, was then appointed as head of the Justice ministry by the candidate that most probably would not h

      • He goes with wind like the rest. He was pro war leading up to it, and I'll grant he's doing this because this Brazilian president isn't so popular. If it was the other guy, he would be "discreet". Regardless, I'm for anyone that can force transparency, for what that's worth these days

        And what happened to the rest of the Snowden papers?

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 )
      It is a gift from the good ole USA. They hate his guts for quite a few embarrassing scoops, and pushing the buttons of South and Latin America's corrupted governments has been their thing since forever.

    • Re:If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:4, Insightful)

      by TheDarkMaster ( 1292526 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @12:43PM (#59641234)
      The accusation is ridiculous and baseless, typical of the justice of banana republics. The same prosecutor who made the accusation is the same one who persecutes everyone who is against the current pathetic Brazilian government and with the same lack of any basis or evidence. In a serious country the judge would have laughed at the prosecutor or would have had the prosecutor arrested for slander and defamation.

      • In Greenwald's disclosures, it was basically the judge who was orchestrating the corruption conspiracy.

        Didn't Lula get back in power? Then again Trump hasn't pardoned Assange even though the DNC leaks basically cost Clinton all the Berniebro votes. Seth Rich was never charged for being the leaker.

        We'll see what April 17th looks like...

        • Lula was released from prison, but he was barred from running for office in 2018:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

          He isn't holding any office at the moment. Probably never will again. But you never know with Brasilian politics.

        • The "Seth Rich leaked DNC emails" charge was made up to try to deflect blame from the Russian intelligence groups that perpetrated the hackings.

          • Which totally explains how the amount of data exfiltrated was larger than the DNC's internet connection could have transmitted in the given period of time. Yep, nothing to see here folks, move along and blame those pesky Russians.

            • Bold claims with no sources are pretty awesome!

            • Which totally explains how the amount of data exfiltrated was larger than the DNC's internet connection could have transmitted in the given period of time.

              Uh huh. Right. Yeah, I'm sure that's totally a thing. I mean, all the theories on that rely on the assumption that the leaked files were saved to disk only once, not copied after that but released in that state to Wikileaks. If you introduce the idea that the modification time on the files was not the download time, then the theory falls apart completely.

              Then there's also the fact that Wikileaks were still exchanging information with their contact after Seth Rich was killed, but whatever. Seth Rich must hav

      • Re:If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:4, Funny)

        by gtall ( 79522 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @01:04PM (#59641326)

        Okay, since when did Barr abscond to Brazil?

      • Alleged - where is the word alleged. When you see things like this missing you see the definition of a TINPOT country. DPP not knowing what prejudice is. Jurisprudence MIA. It does appear journalists are being charged with make up crimes to get even for embarrassment or disclosing illegality. Even in the USA el president sees nothing wrong in using the office for personal gain. Then there is a technical discussion 'I did not have sex' or 'It was not personal'. Such arguments fall flat when all the facts ar

    • I am sadly NOT surprised by the support that this liar and propagandist gets on slashdot, it displays and utter lack of discretion while consuming information

    • Re:If he revealed the truth, fuck Brazil (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gtall ( 79522 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @01:02PM (#59641318)

      Amerigo Vespucci discovered Rio. Well, he discovered it was there. Anyhow, Brazil was a Portuguese colony, not Spanish.

      • Actually, it's generally agreed that Pinzon was the first European to sail to Brasil.

      • Rio de Janeiro? How did he discover a city that wouldn't be built until after he died?

        How would any European explorer "discover" a city built by European settlers following the explorers?

      • Brazil was a Dutch colony until they sold it to Portugal, who spent about 200 years paying for it...
        The Dutch then got Surinam instead, to grow the crops they were interested in, (sugarbeets?) just to find that those crops wouldn't grow there... Ultimately, I guess there are no winners in this story.

    • Columbus discovered Rio? Thought the first European to sail to Brasil was Pinzon.

  • Ecuadorian embassy has a recent opening... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sinij ( 911942 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @11:32AM (#59640956)
    Well, time to accuse Glenn Greenwald of a rape and then extradite him to Brazil.

  • This is normal... Brazilian "justice" at work (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @11:39AM (#59641000)

    This is pretty normal for their "justice" system there. In general, the arresting officer is the person who sets the charge, sets the sentence, and finds the offender guilty, and trials tend to be just for show. Of course, some reals handed to the right people will make those charges go away, but in a case like this, this is just a corrupt government burning a journalist at the stake... something that the world should remember and call Brazil out on, as a war crime.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      ...this is just a corrupt government burning a journalist at the stake... something that the world should remember and call Brazil out on, as a war crime.

      No one will give a shit. And American journalism did that to itself by peddling in manipulative clickbait bullshit, because profits matter more than truth. You speak of corruption as if the MSM isn't hopelessly fucked in this way.

    • Re:This is normal... Brazilian "justice" at work (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TheDarkMaster ( 1292526 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @12:53PM (#59641278)

      This is pretty normal for their "justice" system there. In general, the arresting officer is the person who sets the charge, sets the sentence, and finds the offender guilty, and trials tend to be just for show. Of course, some reals handed to the right people will make those charges go away, but in a case like this, this is just a corrupt government burning a journalist at the stake... something that the world should remember and call Brazil out on, as a war crime.

      You summed up the situation well. And the worst part is that a good part of Brazilians really think that Brazilian justice works.

  • Love GG's work, and hope this turns into his next book. Of course I hope he does also evade detention from this allegedly corrupt government.

  • You're crimimal, for revealing we're criminals! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 ) on Tuesday January 21, 2020 @11:52AM (#59641064)

    Yeah, no, you are not law enforcement. You are the gang of organized crime that is currently in power. That is all.

  • There's evidence that he gave financial and intellectual support for the criminals who hacked authorities' communications.
    • Let me guess the evidence is in form of some black book of claimed payments that they can't prove even if 1 of them even happened?

  • I'm not with the past or current governments, but this accusation is a joke, child's play.

    - Supreme court says GG should not be investigated for disclosing the hacker's files.
    - Prosecutor charges GG with cyber crimes, even when GG is not officially investigate. In his defense the prosecutor posts, in caps, "THERE WAS NO INVESTIGATION. WE DIDN'T GO AGAINST THE SUPREME COURT DECISION"

    Its like a parent telling a kid to not touch something, and the kid touches it with a stick. "But mom, i didn't touch it, the s

  • Glenn give explicit directions for the hacker, he told them who's phone should be hacked, what messages was important, what to look for. Glenn act as the criminal group leader before any information was confirmed. He took part in a crime.

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