Report: US Halts Huawei's Suppliers, Including Intel, in Last Blow to China's 5G (reuters.com) 50
"The Trump administration notified Huawei suppliers, including chipmaker Intel, that it is revoking certain licenses to sell to the Chinese company and intends to reject dozens of other applications," Reuters reports, citing sources familiar with the matter:
One of the sources said eight licenses were yanked from four companies. Japanese flash memory chip maker Kioxia Corp had at least one license revoked, two of the sources said. The company, formerly known as Toshiba Memory Corp, could not immediately be reached for comment... Companies that received the "intent to deny" notices have 20 days to respond, and the Commerce Department has 45 days to advise the companies of any change in a decision or it then becomes final. Companies would then have another 45 days to appeal...
Before the latest action, some 150 licenses were pending for $120 billion worth of goods and technology, which had been held up because various U.S. agencies could not agree on whether they should be granted, a person familiar with the matter said. Another $280 billion of licenses for goods and technology for Huawei still have not been dealt with, the source said, but now face a higher likelihood of denial... The United States made the latest decisions during a half dozen meetings starting on Jan. 4 with senior officials from the departments of Commerce, State, Defense and Energy, the source said. The officials developed detailed guidance with regard to which technologies were capable of 5G, and then applied that standard, the person said.
By doing that, the officials denied the vast majority of the roughly 150 disputed applications, and revoked the eight licenses to make those consistent with the new denials, the source said.
Before the latest action, some 150 licenses were pending for $120 billion worth of goods and technology, which had been held up because various U.S. agencies could not agree on whether they should be granted, a person familiar with the matter said. Another $280 billion of licenses for goods and technology for Huawei still have not been dealt with, the source said, but now face a higher likelihood of denial... The United States made the latest decisions during a half dozen meetings starting on Jan. 4 with senior officials from the departments of Commerce, State, Defense and Energy, the source said. The officials developed detailed guidance with regard to which technologies were capable of 5G, and then applied that standard, the person said.
By doing that, the officials denied the vast majority of the roughly 150 disputed applications, and revoked the eight licenses to make those consistent with the new denials, the source said.
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Re: Trump (Score:2)
Don't knock it 'til you tried it!
Or are you speaking out of experience, and if yes, with which orifice?
Re: Trump (Score:2)
Frankly you're very lucky you got rid of Trump now.
Because the EU was this close to sanctioning the US too, for all the bullshit done to our exports.
And then there would be no holding back, as Russia would lovelovelove to join in and exploit this (acting like we are best buddies with them).
The last bastion would surprisingly be China themselves. Since they depend on exports to the US, to keep their artificial job creation schemes running. But there's limits to that too, if you already wreck them and there i
Re: Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
The damage will be long lasting.
All this political interference in trade has given America a reputation for being an unreliable partner.
China will develop an entire 5G stack and sell it to the world.
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China *has* developed an entire 5G stack and is selling it to the world. The USA's play was to try and convince the world the stack was so insecure that the only alternative is their own more poorly performing products. So far the USA has "convinced" 4 of the Five Eyes (including one who independently analysed the situation and determined no risk), and precisely no one else.
20 days to respond... (Score:1)
So just don't. Nothing that happens now, will have any meaning after the inauguration.
I'm only waiting for some nutjobs to declare the Fourth Reich, and everyone laughing, like we used to treat powerless nutjobs (like SJWs too) in the times before the mass media decided it was a good idea to put a spotlight in them.
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Nothing that happens now, will have any meaning after the inauguration.
Not true. Trump's actions remain valid unless Biden explicitly revokes them.
When it comes to trade policy, Biden is only slightly more sensible than Trump.
America shooting itself in the foot (Score:5, Insightful)
Chinese companies (still) have a dependence on US technologies. When the US denies them acecss to that technology, the US forces China to break that dependence, thereby making itself optional at best, and accelerating its slide into complete irrelevance.
Well done Trump. Nice move...
Re:America shooting itself in the foot (Score:5, Insightful)
I know you're being sarcastic, but the truth of the matter is, the damage has already been done. China now has proof positive that the US is a real danger to their economy, and will do whatever it takes to free themselves from that threat, even if Biden cancels all the restrictions imposed by the Trump administration overnight.
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Re:America shooting itself in the foot (Score:5, Interesting)
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If I was the Chinese government right now I would be giving SMIC (the biggest chip maker in China) a directive to do whatever it takes to get a small-feature-size process going in a way that no foreign countries can control. Give them whatever resources are necessary to make that happen.
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If anything, they should do the "communist" thing and break up the big chip maker and force them to compete.
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SMIC is already making a production line with Chinese tools. It should be operational in a year or two.
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The immediate impact, kill the licence and loose the patent, that is the law. You have to make patens accessible, when you do not, you do not have to adhere to that patent. So patent and content war, coming up and guess who loses that one, the one with the most patent and content.
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When china (as a state) actively sponsors the stealing of IP, hacking and bait and switch tactics to move manufacturing to China with unfair rules, I really don't feel bad for them when we decide that we don't want thier routers which could potentially and probably have backdoors to further thier cause.
last blow (Score:1)
Rusty Trumpet is going in the bin in THREE DAYS. They should kick his ass all the way back to Florida.
"Last Blow to China's 5G" (Score:2)
Is that what this is really all about?
How does that even work? (Score:3)
I genuinely don't understand how the US can revoke a license that stops a Japanese chip maker selling to China?
Are all the mentioned companies US companies, or manufacture in the US?
Re:How does that even work? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not about being a US company, It's about any company in the world that wants to do business with anyone in the US. The US doesn't respect international boundaries or pesky things like jurisdiction, so they are quite happy to penalize foreign individuals or corporations for actions that happen in other parts of the world with no connection whatsoever to the US.
Re:How does that even work? (Score:4, Funny)
End of American tech lead (Score:5, Insightful)
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Catch up? Huawei got the jump on everyone with 5G tech.
China already has world leading tech companies. Phones, semiconductor fabrication, electric vehicles and self driving cars, all sorts of stuff. Huawei laptops are as well made as any Macbook and feature upgradable parts.
It's already too late, not that there was ever much chance of stopping it.
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Well done (Score:4)
Now they'll make their own.
One day the US will wake up and wonder why China overtook them.
Trade? (Score:2)
Maybe they can trade for some car chips?
truum (Score:1)
Not to worry come Wednesday (Score:1)
I appears they didn't (Score:1)
I appears they didn't deposit the correct amount of money into Trumps offshore account.
Where is the evidence? (Score:1)