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China's CGTN No Longer Has Permission To Broadcast in Germany (dw.com) 22

The Chinese cable channel CGTN may no longer broadcast in Germany, a press spokesperson for the state media authority of Northrhine-Westphalia confirmed to DW on Friday. From a report: The news came after the UK broadcasting regulator Ofcom revoked the channel's license on February 4. According to an agreement among several European countries, CGTN's license in Germany had been approved by Ofcom as part of a license sharing initiative. With the Ofcom license revoked, CGTN has been left without permission to broadcast in Germany. Vodafone Germany also reported on Friday that it had "paused" distribution of the channel over its cable network in Nordrhine-Westphalia, Hesse und Baden-Wurttemberg, according to Reuters. "We are currently in discussions regarding the withdrawal of the license both with regional media authorities and the broadcaster's representatives in order to clarify the legal situation," the company said.
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China's CGTN No Longer Has Permission To Broadcast in Germany

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  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Friday February 12, 2021 @10:10AM (#61055876)

    China has perfected the art of commit acts of sheer hypocrisy and then acting absolutely shocked and appalled when their own schemes used against them.

    I'm sure they'll call this "an irresponsible and shameful political act to hurt China" or some bullshit.

    • irresponsible

      They like that word, a lot.
    • by K. S. Kyosuke ( 729550 ) on Friday February 12, 2021 @10:22AM (#61055940)
      I imagine it's going to go down the "Chinese tourists pretending to be brutalized by Swedish police" [globalvoices.org]

      route, only on a country-sized scale.

    • You don't have to wait. Per TFA they've already blocked BBC.

      China as a government always seems to negotiate in bad faith. I guess that's the story here.

      • It's quite funny, apparently: [wikipedia.org]

        Given that the BBC has never been generally allowed to broadcast in mainland China in the first place, it was unclear what impact, if any, China's 11 February ban would have.

        • Zero impact. Even western channels that ARE permitted to be broadcast are subject to censorship at any time. The only way to really get real international news in China is to do it over the internet with VPN and even that is getting harder and harder.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      I mean, they've already banned the BBC in China in response to Ofcom banning CGTN in the UK (and now, it appears, in other parts of Europe too).

      The problem with the Chinese is that they are so rabidly nationalistic and indoctrinated that they literally can't comprehend that other countries have different codes of morals and laws that need to be abided by, so the only reason they can comprehend for action being taken against them is that they're being attacked for no valid reason. And the only way they know

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Rather similar to a certain group in the USA, now that I think about it. Weirdly, that group and the Chinese also hate each other.

        China is communist, which is far left, so it makes sense these groups are natural enemies.
  • I mean why would they even need a license here. They are not going to broadcast over DVB-T(2) anyhow, and cable television is a joke in Germany (e.g. no BBC, but a channel you can watch the Cosby Show in cut to 16:9 so you won't see his chin or forehead).

    A huge chunk of people in Germany just watch FTA satellite, and it's on 3 popular satellite positions operated by 2 distinct companies.

    • Unless it also dropped from Astra (the Satellites you mention) at the same time. I suspect it did - all channels on them are under the same regulatory regime.
      • Then still there's Eutelsat, and lots of different other companies.
        So far the only company that dropped them was cable operator (semi-) monopoly Vodafone and even they claim that they are just checking if a license is a requirement for them to put a channel onto their cable system. There is some precedence, BTW, there was a tiny local station in the German town of Hof that lost its license, then sued, and while they didn't actually get back their license, they were allowed by the judge to go on broadcasting

    • cable television is a joke in Germany (e.g. no BBC, but a channel you can watch the Cosby Show in cut to 16:9 so you won't see his chin or forehead).

      Eh? Here in scenic Heidelberg I get the BBC. Unitymedia Cable. I've never seen the Cosby Show. What channel is that on? The closest I probably get is the Comedy Channel.

      Oh, and when I change to CGTN it displays the standard, "Due to technical difficulties . . ." message.

      It should read, "Due to political difficulties . . ."

  • This may sound like a big thing,
    but if you go around in this Germand media city that has two big TV stations running from here, you will be hard-pressed if you meet even a single person who ever heard of them, let alone watched anything b, CGTN, before the *week* is over.

    And who still watches regular TV anyway? Everyone has got Internet... why would they need to broadcast at all?
    Will we ban portable wax cylinders for horse carriages from China next? ^^
    (Oh well, no matter how pathetic China's attempt there w

    • You can watch CGTN on Youtube. They're still there.
      It's useless unless you want to see news about China and it's highly sanitized. But I've seen worse.

  • There are some shows on CGTN which seem to me to be pretty fair and balanced. There was a show the other day with some American guest who was allowed to spout off about the usual "free this" or "democratic" that, and was clearly anti-China, or at least anti-CPC. Frankly, he didn't come off looking too sane, but they allowed him to speak, as I recall...and it was live.
    Iinm, it was also on WeChat, but I've not confirmed.
    They even sent that same reporter/anchor to the USA to debate with some anchor in the USA.

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