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Stockfish Sues ChessBase (stockfishchess.org) 21

Slashdot reader Hmmmmmm shares a blog post from Stockfish announcing a lawsuit against ChessBase: The Stockfish project strongly believes in free and open-source software and data. Collaboration is what made this engine the strongest chess engine in the world. We license our software using the GNU General Public License, Version 3 (GPL) with the intent to guarantee all chess enthusiasts the freedom to use, share and change all versions of the program. Unfortunately, not everybody shares this vision of openness. We have come to realize that ChessBase concealed from their customers Stockfish as the true origin of key parts of their products (see also earlier blog posts by us and the joint Lichess, Leela Chess Zero, and Stockfish teams). Indeed, few customers know they obtained a modified version of Stockfish when they paid for Fat Fritz 2 or Houdini 6 -- both Stockfish derivatives -- and they thus have good reason to be upset. [ChessBase released Fat Fritz 2, described on their website as the "new number 1" chess engine "with a massive new neural network, trained by Albert Silver with the original Fat Fritz." They advertise Fat Fritz 2 as using novel strong ideas compared to existing chess engines, but in reality Fat Fritz 2 is just Stockfish with a different neural network and minimal changes that are neither innovative nor appear to make the engine stronger.] ChessBase repeatedly violated central obligations of the GPL, which ensures that the user of the software is informed of their rights. These rights are explicit in the license and include access to the corresponding sources, and the right to reproduce, modify and distribute GPLed programs royalty-free.

In the past four months, we, supported by a certified copyright and media law attorney in Germany, went through a long process to enforce our license. Even though we had our first successes, leading to a recall of the Fat Fritz 2 DVD and the termination of the sales of Houdini 6, we were unable to finalize our dispute out of court. Due to Chessbase's repeated license violations, leading developers of Stockfish have terminated their GPL license with ChessBase permanently. However, ChessBase is ignoring the fact that they no longer have the right to distribute Stockfish, modified or unmodified, as part of their products. Thus, to enforce the consequences of the license termination, we have filed a lawsuit. This lawsuit is broadly supported by the team of maintainers and developers of Stockfish. We believe we have the evidence, the financial means and the determination to bring this lawsuit to a successful end. We will provide an update to this statement once significant progress has been made.

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Stockfish Sues ChessBase

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  • Good for them. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Baconsmoke ( 6186954 ) on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @05:42PM (#61602513)
    I hope they win their lawsuit.
  • Except when they're suing to defend Open Source.

  • On their blog, ChessBase provides email exchanges where a Stockfish developer allowed them to use the software under the terms they presented.
    At the time, Fat Fritz wasnâ(TM)t as big; otherwise there would have been a bigger issue.

    • by hankwang ( 413283 ) on Tuesday July 20, 2021 @11:26PM (#61603241) Homepage

      A link would have been helpful. I can't find anything like that by searching for "stockfish" on chessbase.com, via google.

    • On their blog, ChessBase provides email exchanges where a Stockfish developer allowed them to use the software under the terms they presented.
      At the time, Fat Fritz wasnâ(TM)t as big; otherwise there would have been a bigger issue.

      To use the software under terms other than the GPLv3 ChessBase would need agreement of all the copyright holders.

      A Stockfish developer could give them clarity on how they could use Stockfish under the terms of the GPLv3, but the developer couldn't give them an alternate Stockfish license.

      Of course, if ChessBase was acting in good faith it matters for the legal proceedings.

  • The copyright is with the programmers. They allowed to use their software if you obey the rules of a specific license. The violator did not obey those rules, and thus has no rights at all, they just pirated the software without any rights at all. Wire them a bill, like 1 Dollar per App-Download, and enforce your bill.
  • I see a lot of people claiming there's no damages because Stockfish is free. But Google vs Oracle was also over code available for free. So there's a lot more to it than that.

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