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Russia Tells Its Space Reporters To Stop Reporting On the Space Program (arstechnica.com) 54

FallOutBoyTonto writes: It is safe to say that Russian President Vladimir Putin is not a fan of independent media. In the run-up to elections last month, Putin declared almost every independent media organization operating inside the country a "foreign agent" to stifle dissent and criticism. The intent seems to be to destroy independent media in Russia.

Now, this campaign has been extended to coverage of space activities in Russia. The country already prohibits reporting on space activities containing classified information, but a new law extends to coverage of a variety of other space news. Essentially, any person in Russia who now reports on anything that might be even tangentially related to Russia's military activities or space activities will be labeled as a foreign agent.

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Russia Tells Its Space Reporters To Stop Reporting On the Space Program

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  • The space program reports on YOU!!!

  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @12:15PM (#61866533)

    Historically Russia and the USA have been on par in terms of the Space Program.
    The shuttle program that the US had, was a technological success, however it was an impractical technology, this gave Russia an advantage of being the Cheaper and practical source for space travel. When the shuttle program was stopped last decade, Russia was the only player in the market.
    However with the Privatized US Based Space Programs, which seem to have brought some much needed innovation and cost savings to the USA, Russia is now being shown having the aging last century Space Program, which is more expensive to operate, as well based on aging technology and more limited mission profiles.
    It is getting difficult to put the Spin to show how Russia is still a big player in the space race. So instead of investing into new technologies and methods, they just silence the reporters, so they don't need to do anything new, as no one knows about the problems.

    After the Shuttle program was scuttled in the US, the reporters were hard on NASA and the space program in general, making sure Americans know that they are now going to be behind everyone else in Space, thus it made a renewed attempt to get back and strong into space. By using new technologies and from new companies.

    • American Atlas still using Russian engines. With a success rate no one has reached yet. Rather impressing for "aging technology".

      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        The RL-10 says hello.

      • by spun ( 1352 )

        Based on current launch rates, SpaceX should have that success rate beat in a year or two.

        Congress outlawed the purchase of Russian RD-180 engines way back in 2014. ULA has announced they have used up all their stock of the engine, as of this month. So unless Russia manages to launch something (as if), there will be no more launches with the RD-180.

    • by denzacar ( 181829 ) on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @01:36PM (#61866795) Journal

      It's about crime and embarrassment.
      Like some $10.5 billion pilfered through Roscosmos in 2017 alone. [translate.goog]
      Also, they may be openly breaking laws with that public stunt of theirs, trying to beat Tom Cruise. [wikipedia.org]

      Also, there are other issues. [rferl.org]

      • by ytene ( 4376651 ) on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @03:38PM (#61867181)
        Those are staggering numbers, no doubt about it.

        On the other hand... the SLS is currently being forecasted to cost something in the region of $21.2 billion to develop, with an additional cost of $2 billion per launch. Block 1 of SLS is expected to put 95 tons [209 000lb] to LEO.

        By comparison, Falcon Heavy can deliver 63.8 tons [141 000lb] to LEO, for a launch cost of $90 million for a reusable launch [and I think it's fair to say that an LEO launch should be reusable, or $150 million for an expendable launch. Musk has publicly stated that FH cost "more than $500 million" to develop but was done without government financing. Falcon Heavy is operational now and took a fraction of the time to develop.

        Appreciate that these aren't apples-to-apples comparisons, but when SLS takes so much longer and costs IRO 40x more to complete - whilst re-using existing technologies - like the Shuttle Main Engines - then you have to start wondering what all the money is being spent on...

        I'd be the first to agree with you that it looks like a bunch of Roscosmos employees or contractors have had their fingers in the pie. But they can't hold a candle to what the SLS consortium have achieved.
        • then you have to start wondering what all the money is being spent on..

          A massively inefficient development project who's main purpose it spreading the bacon across all 48 mainland states in order to guarantee continued funding by Congress.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by cedral ( 1023683 )

        They can't invest in their space program. The money will just get stolen. It's the trap Putin and his KGB buddies have created for themselves. Their historical method for funding themselves (I don't just mean personally, this is an institutional behavior) has been to siphon money from other programs behind the scenes. It's how they survived the fall of the communist party as a functioning organization. Unfortunately their playbook has been picked up as standard practice so now it's built into every layer o

    • by schwit1 ( 797399 )

      "The shuttle program that the US had, was a technological success, however it was an impractical technology,"

      The shuttle was a technological success like the Apple Lisa.

    • The shuttle program that the US had, was a technological success, however it was an impractical technology

      It was impractical - for bringing shit back from orbit - compared to what??

  • Russia is 20 years behind SpaceX they do not want that reported. Ironic given that SpaceX is using technology invented and inspired by Russian rocket propulsion research.

    • Ironic also, because really, most national space agencies are decades behind SpaceX.
    • by midav ( 63224 )

      You are over-optimistic -- arguably, the Soviet Union was 20 years behind SpaceX when they tried to launch shuttle 'Buran' in 1984-85. The program was not successful and was abandoned. Russia's current space program is 20 years behind that of the Soviet Union.

  • So... what Russia is actually saying is that they are planning to militarise space.

    Otherwise they wouldn't have anything to hide, would they?

    • Don't know how accurate this is, but according to https://www.themoscowtimes.com... [themoscowtimes.com] , it looks like this is primarily an effort to keep the Russian news media from reporting on all the graft and corruption in the Russian space program.

    • Why would they have to hide it? Trump made it very clear that the US was going to militarize space with the Space Force. Not sure if it's kept going in the same capacity under Biden, but if Trump comes back the next term, it will be ramped up. I don't see why Russia wouldn't just as publicly talk about that.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Seems recently familiar to a certain turd constantly yelling "fake news"...

  • The United States uses the same strategy, but is constrained to some degree by constitutional restrictions on government sponsored censorship. Here we see mass media label independent press as âmisinformationâ(TM) or âdisinformationâ(TM), and watch as corporate sponsored âwhistle blowersâ(TM) are rolled before the Congress to great bipartisan and big media fanfare to demand restrictions on the flow of information, public discourse, and debate. Predictably, propaganda disseminat
    • Correct.

      The actual document this is trying to retell is quite clear on the aims, what is prohibited and what is allowed. It was circulated earlier in the week. As usually we have "what is actually happening" run through a carefully crafted propaganda filter and fed to the western audience.

  • by endus ( 698588 ) on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @01:04PM (#61866685)

    He needs a way to create an army of media which willingly functions as the propaganda arm of the government like we have here in the U.S! Freedom baby!

  • Russia has had a mass corruption problem scince the days of the Tzars.

    Russia is a beautiful country. Too bad their politics suck.

  • by chx496 ( 6973044 ) on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @04:52PM (#61867333)

    This is really a shame. When I was in Moscow a couple of years ago, I very much enjoyed my visit to the Museum of Cosmonautics [kosmo-museum.ru], which was refreshingly apolitical. And while the space race during the cold war was a huge competition, the actual people involved in the civilian space programs on all sides were often more idealistic and thought of the space programs as a step for the advancement of humanity. There's a reason that one of the most famous collaborations of the USA and the Soviet Union during the cold war was Apollo–Soyuz, part of the respective space programs.

    It's a huge bummer that this type of politics has now expanded to the Russian space program. And I think it sends the wrong message. When you look at space launch providers (private and public), which ones are those that generate the most hype? Those that provide the public with lots of information in order to get them excited. And there are tons of fan sites about space exploration that help drive this. This new Russian law will suppress this type of activity in Russia, which will likely lead a lot of young people over there that are interested in space to look elsewhere.

    I think this law is a good indication that there doesn't appear to be a lot of political will in Russia to actually continue to innovate in their space program, and that they're instead trying to rest on their existing laurels. I fear that this law is an indication that the Russian space program is in decline, which is very unfortunate.

  • Where putin goes so go the right wing traitors.

  • Right wing racist transphobic climate deniers are already appearing claiming this is similar to when Google tries to stop them from profiting from their vile attempts to purvey misinformation.

    It has nothing to do with that. There are heroic dissenters in Russia who are, contrary to the enforced social consensus there, seeking to shed light on the Russian space program, and the authorities are trying to stop them.

    Whereas though the climate deniers here in the US claim to be just debating an open subject, th

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