Google Expands Skills Certificate Training

A few years ago, Google started offering a non-college certificate program to help teach basic IT skills to future workers. Now, the tech giant is working to make sure more people -- including community college students -- have access to the curriculum. From a report: The labor market has a big skills mismatch, with companies saying they can't find enough qualified applicants, while plenty of job seekers struggle to find meaningful and lucrative work. As part of the expansion, Google will make the certificate program free for community colleges and vocational high schools across the nation. Connecticut will be the first state to offer Google Career Certificates across its state colleges and universities system. Google is also working with the American Council on Education to allow those who have achieved a certificate to also get college credit for the work.

No, only pay mismatch exists

[sinij]

There is no skill mismatch, there is only pay mismatch. There are two ways to get qualified employees: a) old-school way of hiring someone out of college and training them up, and b) pay enough money that some people get qualifications on their own time to get that pay. There is also an HB way, where you substitute pay for government-provided path for legal immigration, but this does technically falls under b).

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[Ostracus]

Somewhere in all that is affordable education regardless if it's another country doing the educating. Also this is a certificate, based upon an already existing system. Not a substitute for.

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[know-nothing cunt]

The certificates and knowledge that I gain helps me get ahead of my pears

That's some fruity competition you got there.

"with companies saying they can't find enough"

[S_Stout]

They can find plenty. What they can't find is enough people that want to work for shit wages.

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[Ostracus]

Interesting how in "plenty" questions of quality never come to front except when said individuals are threatened by "plenty" of competition.

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[sinij]

Managers are not typically measured on quality of code their team produce, consequently they are not hiring programmers based on that criteria. It is number's game - hire enough mediocre coders to ship product on time in sort-of working state and move elsewhere by the time CVEs start rolling.

and how to not make them too vendor locked?

[Joe_Dragon]

and how to not make them too vendor locked? as google does have IT stuff that compete with others

Companies Don't Hire Right!

[Arzaboa]

When I try to get a job rec put in, I'm always overruled on what we are allowed to ask for. They then put a generic, pre-written ad out for the job. If the seeker doesn't know how to read that, they don't get the job as they never apply.

When I'm searching for jobs, I see the same thing. "Need SIEM engineer with 25 years of experience and a PHD", or, "Need programmer with 25 years of RUST experience." The disconnect is real.

The main problem is that everyone has tried to streamline this process to the

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[SeriousTube]

Rust experience is overrated. People get shot and killed.

Obviously this course isn't working

[smooth wombat]

Almost one month ago to the day, this site posted this story [slashdot.org] about how students don't understand basic computer operations.

Either these folks haven't been taking this course or, due to their lack of basic computer operation skills, are unable to get to the web site to take the course.

Either way, more work needs done.

Certs won't get you a job anymore

[rsilvergun]

or at least not one making more than $12/hr. If you aren't rocking a college degree your options are to try your luck with recruiters as a "contractor" (basically 6-12 months when they can fire you w/o unemployment) or get filtered out by a computer system. Heck, the last few places I saw wouldn't let you submit an app unless you told them where your Bachelor's was from.

From the article, this sentence is big

[Hasaf]

In the article, it says, "Google is also working with the American Council on Education to allow those who have achieved a certificate to also get college credit for the work."

This is big, employers still want to see the college credit. This could be a move toward a model of "learn something, demonstrate that you have learned it, get credit for having learned it." While it seems a minor point, While it seems obvious, it is not the way the current education cartel works. If done right, it could have a maj

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[OrSpace]

Probably, studying at Google is very cool, because you can get really useful skills that will be useful, unlike studying at universities or colleges. For example, I've been studying French for 4 years, but I don’t know anything, so now I’m studying with a tutor at https://livexp.com/ [livexp.com] , and I’m making pretty good progress. If I hadn't been wasting my time at university, I'd know a lot more now.