'Spider-Man: No Way Home' Trailer Remade With Footage From the 1990's Cartoon (cnet.com) 30
Long-time Slashdot reader destinyland writes: This week Marvel released an epic three-minute trailer hyping December's releases of Spider-Man: No Way Home. "It comes after the initial trailer, which focused on the movie's multiversal villains, broke YouTube records over the summer," CNET reported Tuesday (racking up 355.5 million views in its first 24 hours).
But then one more universe collided...
Basically, some internet wise guys re-edited the trailer, splicing its audio over clips from the Fox Kids' 1994 cartoon series Spider-Man. (Opening credits here.) "This has no right being this good," argues CNET — especially since the actual movie's trailer arrived "amidst a ludicrous amount of fanfare and hype."
But it's all oddly appropriate, since CNET notes the upcoming movie features five sinister villains from nearly 20 years of Spider-Man movies, reaching back to the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield era ("likely spurred on by the events of the Disney Plus Loki series.")
So maybe it's fitting that it was also invaded by the television cartoon universe...
But then one more universe collided...
Basically, some internet wise guys re-edited the trailer, splicing its audio over clips from the Fox Kids' 1994 cartoon series Spider-Man. (Opening credits here.) "This has no right being this good," argues CNET — especially since the actual movie's trailer arrived "amidst a ludicrous amount of fanfare and hype."
But it's all oddly appropriate, since CNET notes the upcoming movie features five sinister villains from nearly 20 years of Spider-Man movies, reaching back to the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield era ("likely spurred on by the events of the Disney Plus Loki series.")
So maybe it's fitting that it was also invaded by the television cartoon universe...
I don't understand (Score:2)
In a case like this, why wouldn't all the rest of the "good" superheroes on Earth join forces? Why would everyone leave it up to Spider-Man and Dr. Strange? I mean, Spider-Man just sucks anyway....he is hardly very powerful. It's like nobody else exists.
I know, it's bout making money for the studio...but still. This kind of plot hole is really hard to overlook, even if it want to.
Because people like Spider Man (Score:3, Interesting)
Why would everyone leave it up to Spider-Man and Dr. Strange?... I know, it's bout making money for the studio...but still. This kind of plot hole is really hard to overlook, even if it want to.
The thing is the entire Marvel universe is absolutely saturated with this particular plot hole, with so many heroes you wouldn't think there could be an inch of crime or even ill intent left on the planet.
I kind of agree it's about money, but as to why Spider-Man in particular... I think he's really the most beloved
I have my doubts about this one. (Score:4, Insightful)
**Spoilers from Trailer**
I realize these are movies about beings with supernatural powers, so one must have some willingness to swallow the occasional nonsensical plot device just to even get started.
But the premise here, if we are to believe the trailer, is just too much. Dr Strange is simply too wise to do something as colossally stupid as he is apparently doing, and for a reason so insignificant. Drama and conflict are being created by having characters act so grossly out of character that the story just seems ridiculous. It's Star Wars The Last Jedi all over again.
I felt the same way about Age of Ultron. Sure, Tony is arrogant but Bruce is not, and even despite his arrogance Tony is not so stupid as to take this magical staff about which he knows nothing other than "it totally defies laws of science" and plug it right in to the central computer that runs his entire setup. It just so wildly ridiculous that he would even consider such a thing, let alone push Bruce into it. But, apparently audiences like it when really smart people do wildly stupid things out of arrogance. Maybe it resonates with an anti-intellectual vibe. I don't know. But I find it off-putting.
Maybe the movie will throw a surprise at us that the trailer isn't showing. Like, Strange actually just cast some mind-warping spell that made Peter THINK all that was happening so Peter could come to terms with his identity and prefer the world as it is, rather than trying to violate the minds of literally everyone in the world just for his own convenience. Though, "it was all a dream" is always a major let-down of a conflict resolution.
I'm not in a hurry to see how this one turns out.
Yeah that is a great point (Score:1)
But the premise here, if we are to believe the trailer, is just too much. Dr Strange is simply too wise to do something as colossally stupid as he is apparently doing
I only watched the first trailer but it has that part in it as well... I have to say I agree with that take but I have to say I enjoy Spider Man more than I care about the ravaging of the the intelligence of the Dr Strange character just to make the movie happen... although on a side note Dr Strange is one of the few comics I read as a kid.
But
Re:I have my doubts about this one. (Score:4, Insightful)
I felt the same way about Age of Ultron. Sure, Tony is arrogant but Bruce is not, and even despite his arrogance Tony is not so stupid as to take this magical staff about which he knows nothing other than "it totally defies laws of science" and plug it right in to the central computer that runs his entire setup.
Well, of course in the comics it was originally Hank Pym who created Ultron. In the MCU they made it Tony Stark, which made sense given the characters they had available at the time. It also fits in with the essence of Tony Stark as a character, which they distilled. The Tony Stark from the comics was an alcoholic, and the MCU version is one also although they took more of a "show, don't tell" angle of that. Then that's combined with his arrogance. The arrogance is earned to some degree due to his super-intelligence, but he has the flaw where he's so used to being the smartest person in the room that he has trouble recognizing when he's wrong (not that any of us here on Slashdot would be familiar with that one). The result is the sort of alcoholic who, every time they get back on the wagon needs to lecture to everyone about how they shouldn't drink (until they inevitably fall back off the wagon and won't listen to anybody).
Basically, most of the challenges the MCU Tony Stark faces are his own fault. Obadiah Stane's armor in the first Iron Man movie (not to mention all the fallout from his weapons). The MCU version of Whiplash was partly fallout from Stark's father, but Stark's attitude didn't help (not to mention giving him suggestions on improving his weapons). Stark was also behind AIM, the fake Ten Rings and Extremis. Then Ultron, as described above. He's also had a hand in creating the villains that other heroes have had to fight. For example he created Damage Control, which basically lead to the Vulture. The technology Mysterio was using was Stark-funded and the actual goal of Mysterio was to acquire yet another Stark-created world threatening superweapon (which seemed to be Stark's personal version of Project: Insight).
Despite all these problems that are clearly his own fault, especially Ultron, in "Civil War" he lectures the other heroes about the damage that they do. No-one calls him out on it, which was extremely frustrating watching but actually makes sense in hindsight. He's exactly that type who can't handle criticism and his teammates probably recognize by that point that it's a pointless strategy with him. In the end, aside from the railroad plot, that's probably why the MCU Banner helps him with creating Ultron, he won't be dissuaded and it's basically pointless to try, but he possesses enough charm, not to mention some ability to manipulate, that it's hard for people to, for example, get angry and storm out. As a result, people often get worn down and Stark gets his way. In short, although he's sort of a decent person at heart, he's a flawed, toxic personality and maybe a little sociopathic.
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This is in-character for Dr. Strange, he has done similar stuff before in numerous different stories in the comics.
In fact the movie universe seems to be following a well trodden path from the comics, where they reboot or alter stuff through multiverse bending magic to keep it fresh. Strange is almost always involved somehow. He seems to have a soft spot for sob stories, can't help trying to help people even when he knows better.
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Ah, I never read the comics so that is illuminating. Maybe the story that I want just isn't the story this is intended to be.
I don't mind superheroes that do obviously stupid things if the intent is comedy, like say The Tick, where the superhero's essential definition is a well-intentioned idiot who does things to make us laugh, rather to intrigue. But even then....the Tick does stupid things because they fit his character, so it at least kinda still makes sense.
The juxtaposition of "brilliant sage" with
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Yeah...weak...
https://www.quora.com/How-powe... [quora.com]
He is flat out stronger than Hulk, faster than most of the super heroes, can see the future with his danger sense, and is smarter than Tony Stark, Hank Pym, and Reed Richards. He really sucks huh?
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He really sucks huh?
I agree.
He's like Batman, without the gadgets.
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Yeah, it's not like Spider-Man can't lift and throw a car, dodge every bullet in a hail of gunfire, shoot webbing that even super-strong foes find difficult to break, and (with most incarnations) adeptly do fictional super-science.
The Earth-616 comics version single-handedly defeated two versions of X-Men teams, although Prof X did a whammy that made Spidey forget the second victory against the Uncanny International Squad during Secret Wars.
But he can't do anything INTERESTING....you know, like warp time and space, alter reality, fuck with people's minds, etc.
Re:I don't understand (Score:4, Insightful)
I mean, Spider-Man just sucks anyway....he is hardly very powerful.
That's what they've done with the MCU version of Spiderman. They were trying to play him off as the very early spiderman, not yet grown into his abilities, but he's normally a very powerful superhero. If you watched "Civil War" for example, there's the scene where he effortlessly catches Bucky Barnes cyborg arm. In "Winter Soldier" they show that arm to be significantly stronger than Steve Rogers super soldier serum enhanced ones. So, even in the MCU, Spiderman is an order of magnitude or more stronger than Captain America. He's also faster than Captain America and has special senses that combined with that speed makes him capable of dodging bullets among other things. There's also the sticking to walls (which should have made Captain America pulling him off his feet impossible). Also the web shooters. Not to mention the comic book supergenius IQ, super healing (not Wolverine level, but tens or hundreds of times faster than a normal human being.
The MCU version of Spiderman has just overplayed the inexperienced kid angle a bit too much.
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Spiderman also has the best one-liners.
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In a case like this, why wouldn't all the rest of the "good" superheroes on Earth join forces? Why would everyone leave it up to Spider-Man and Dr. Strange?
They're just screwing around until Batman shows up to fix it, as usual.
I have to admit (Score:4)
That was surprisingly good.
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The cartoon was actually great. It really got Spiderman in a way that the movies didn't. Spidy is a fairly normal guy, in a New York full of crazy dudes in costumes who don't appreciate his one-liners.
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Oh i see what they did there (Score:1)
Side by side (Score:2)
Watch side by side https://viewsync.net/watch?v=O... [viewsync.net]
Please do the original cartoon! (Score:3)
From 1967.
Not all were from the (19)90s! (Score:2)
The Spectacular Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man!
News for nerds... (Score:2)
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Comic books are pretty much the domain of the nerds. The MCU has may have changed that to appeal to the masses more, but it is still a pretty nerdy thing.
men in tights (Score:2)
I gave up comic fantasies around 1957 but I can't forget the sexy costumes and magical gifts these characters displayed. I had wallowed in the tales of ancient Greek & Nordic gods. I loved the semi-real heroes Robin Hood and Jim Bowie etc. I confess, those stories gave much pleasure. But those were days when time and space and sex and death and consciousness and the incredible concept of infinity began to dazzle my evolving brain.
So around that time I decided that the real mysteries were far more intere
Seriously, (Score:2)
I would watch the hell outta that.
Marvel (Score:1)
SPIDER MAN CARTOON 1990'S (Score:1)