KFC's Meatless 'Beyond Fried Chicken' Gets Limited-Time Rollout Across America (gizmodo.com) 164
Gizmodo looks at "Beyond Fried Chicken," KFC's newest menu option from Beyond Meat, reporting that it's been available in limited U.S. test markets since 2019, until a few weeks ago when KFC announced a "limited-time national rollout" across America.
"That began on January 10, with the company estimating supplies would last for around four weeks..." Beyond Fried Chicken has the exact same breading as KFC's real chicken, complete with the dash of the chain's secret ingredient white pepper (once you know what it is, you can't fail to notice it), along with the MSG and salt. It was somehow both crisp and super oily. The actual "Beyond" component of Beyond Fried Chicken tastes, well, like chicken. It's at the very least competitive with most other fast food nugget options, which may be saying a lot or a little depending on your view on nuggs.... I found the texture quite pleasant. I'm frankly not totally sure that I'd be able to tell the difference between them and one of KFC's discontinued nugget recipes in a blind taste test.
Though "vegetarian" usually gets conflated with health, Beyond Fried Chicken is anything but. The company's guide indicates that a six-pack of the Beyond nuggets comes in at 480 calories, 27 grams of fat, and 1,440 milligrams of sodium. Mashed.com pointed out the closest comparable menu item, a kids' size Popcorn Chicken, comes in at 290 calories, 19 grams of fat, and 870 milligrams of sodium. But then, fast food is about indulging in something you know is a little bad for you....
Not that cats are a true measure of whether fake chicken can pass for the real thing, but I feel it's important to note in this review that my cats began swarming around the kitchen counter meowing from the second the bag was unwrapped.
The article includes footage of the cat eating one of the meatless chicken nuggets. And finally... As for whether Beyond Fried Chicken is going to save the planet... that's the wrong question. Chicken is much better in terms of carbon footprint than beef. But eating something other than meat is better still. The peas it's made of are actually one of the most carbon-friendly, protein-rich foods.
"That began on January 10, with the company estimating supplies would last for around four weeks..." Beyond Fried Chicken has the exact same breading as KFC's real chicken, complete with the dash of the chain's secret ingredient white pepper (once you know what it is, you can't fail to notice it), along with the MSG and salt. It was somehow both crisp and super oily. The actual "Beyond" component of Beyond Fried Chicken tastes, well, like chicken. It's at the very least competitive with most other fast food nugget options, which may be saying a lot or a little depending on your view on nuggs.... I found the texture quite pleasant. I'm frankly not totally sure that I'd be able to tell the difference between them and one of KFC's discontinued nugget recipes in a blind taste test.
Though "vegetarian" usually gets conflated with health, Beyond Fried Chicken is anything but. The company's guide indicates that a six-pack of the Beyond nuggets comes in at 480 calories, 27 grams of fat, and 1,440 milligrams of sodium. Mashed.com pointed out the closest comparable menu item, a kids' size Popcorn Chicken, comes in at 290 calories, 19 grams of fat, and 870 milligrams of sodium. But then, fast food is about indulging in something you know is a little bad for you....
Not that cats are a true measure of whether fake chicken can pass for the real thing, but I feel it's important to note in this review that my cats began swarming around the kitchen counter meowing from the second the bag was unwrapped.
The article includes footage of the cat eating one of the meatless chicken nuggets. And finally... As for whether Beyond Fried Chicken is going to save the planet... that's the wrong question. Chicken is much better in terms of carbon footprint than beef. But eating something other than meat is better still. The peas it's made of are actually one of the most carbon-friendly, protein-rich foods.
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If I still ate at KFC, my first though would be, do they use special, separate fryers for this?
Because I don't want this fake food on my real food.
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Same fryers from what my vegan friends tell me, so it isn't vegan. They think it is a good step though and they are glad KFC made the step
Whatever. Do your vegan friends allow natural fertilizers? I mean that cow didn't give their consent to have it's manure used, and there is a whole lot of animal stuff in it. My Grandmam kept chickens, and used chicken manure tea to fertilize her veggies. Corpse eaters, amirite?
It's the problem with veganism. I believe that all life from bacteria to plants to animals is precious. But I know that none of us lives unless we kill other life. Vegans have just deemed animal life as precious, and plant life as
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I am vegan for other reasons, but if someone is vegan because he or she wishes to prevent avoidable harm to animals, then avoiding eggs makes complete and perfect sense. Almost 100% of hens are raised in conditions which result in very premature death of the animal, after a lifetime of suffering. (If and ONLY if you have a strong stomach, watch some videos about factory-farmed chickens. It's terrible for us and for the environment, as well as well as for them.)
We cannot have perfect consistency. Veggies
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Yeah, the whole interaction is a double-bind. Either you don't take your position to the absolute max, in which case you're a hypocrite, or you do take it to the absolute max, in which case you're a lunatic.
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I object MUCH less to humanely raised animals, which I presume yours to be, than to those confined for life to cages full of their own excrement and pumped full of antibiotics, hormones, and other chemicals.
Many vegans would still object to raising animals for human consumption under any circumstance, but in my particular case, having a vegan diet by necessity since I can't digest most animal products, it is mainly the extreme cruelty of factory farming, both to the animals and to those who consume them, th
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Certain animal products including most portions of animal fats, even in small quantities, would make me quite ill. That was why I became vegan, at an early age, decades before I ever heard the word "vegan." It's also why over time I've also had to cut from my diet things that were chemically similar to animal fats (e.g., tropical oils and hydrogenated or interestified "oils" whose main desirable attribute, being semi-solid at room temperature, is directly related to what makes me unable to digest them).
It
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I ate some yesterday, the side of the box says they should not be considered vegan or vegetarian, so I assume they're cooked in the same equipment.
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I ate some yesterday, the side of the box says they should not be considered vegan or vegetarian, so I assume they're cooked in the same equipment.
Most vegetarians aren't as insane as vegans. We had a member of our group who was a strict vegan. At restraunts she wouldn't allow eating utensils that had ever touched a corpse product to touch her food.
Sorry vegans, that is not sane. Stainless steel does not remember what it has touched after it is washed.
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Not sure how you can fake bone-in chicken economically. Are you suggesting they put fake meat on real chicken bones?
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There was a vegan place in Brooklyn I used to go to called Food Swings. They did a really good buffalo drumstick on a wooden "bone".
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Kinda hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube if you know what I mean.
Re:erm (Score:4, Interesting)
Didn't they stop using real chicken many years ago, hence the forced name change to KFC?
Uh, no. They changed their name to KFC in 1991 in an attempt to rebrand away from the idea that the were only a fried chicken place and reinvent themselves with grilled, broiled, and chicken sandwich items as well. It didn't really work, but it had nothing to do with not using "real" chicken.
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I was about to make some snarky comment about the people of Amsterdam not getting that memo but it looks like they took down the Kentucky Fried Chicken sign 3 years ago :-(
2018: https://www.google.nl/maps/@52... [google.nl]
2019: https://www.google.nl/maps/@52... [google.nl]
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So you think KFC is "real food"?
Didn't they stop using real chicken many years ago, hence the forced name change to KFC?
That was a rumor that was wrong. Now this pretend chicken stuff - I saw an image of them sliced open. 0 on presentation - they looks like deep fried gray rubber erasers.
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The reason I think they would use real chicken while possible is that it is among the very cheapest meats available. Most of the things they could use instead, including plant-based alternatives, are much more expensive.
(Possible counterexample: horse meat is much more expensive, but, apparently, that did not stop Ikea from putting some into its meatballs, undeclared, about 9 years ago.)
Soy filler can be a little cheaper, depending on market conditions, but it has to be declared since it is an allergen to
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Horse meat is expensive if you raise horses for meat but it's cheap when people are just getting rid of horses they can't afford to keep.
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I ate some yesterday and was surprised how much they looked like chicken, it had a chicken muscle fiber look to it when i pulled it apart. The nugget was larger than most nuggets and had a slightly firmer bite to it than real chicken meat.
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So you are an elitist asshole... Got it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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It wasn't funny.
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Good for you. I once had a waiter at an insanely busy high-end restaurant use the word "carbs" when discussing the menu. Yeah, um, seriously dude? I realize that you spend your life in the gym when you aren't pretending to be a waiter but this isn't a health food store.
As an amusing aside, I was recently in a health food store (buying a specific flavor of Alden ice cream not carried by other supermarkets) and some woman was trying to return CBD products she bought but the manager refused to accept the return on the grounds that they don't guarantee that the products work. ROTFL.
One of your biggest thrills in life must be abusing those you deem lesser than yourself.
Yeah, um... Seriously dood? I'll bet you have eaten hockers and snot balls before.
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Because I don't want this fake food on my real food.
"It's new and different - Waaaah!" This is the same as the argument against mRNA vaccines, and ultimately it's just as pernicious.
I wouldn't go that far.
We've been inundated with a mantra that Meet is bad and kills you, and plant life is good and makes you live longer.
As noted in the article, these fried rubber erasers - that's what they look like - are not even remotely healthy. A lot of fat, and whopping amounts of sodium. Homie ain't eatin' that!
But the real pernicious part is that with the inculcation narrative that meat is bad, veggies are good, KFC along with others are happy to allow you to believe that is the case. T
Re:erm (Score:4, Interesting)
Most people should eat more fruits and veggies. That would be good, because, generally, we eat way too few of them, and way too much processed garbage.
Also, factory-farmed meats are quite unhealthy. Probably as much for us, as for the animals.
But, even as a vegan, I have to concur that plant-based meat substitutes are NOT necessarily healthier than the real thing. Nor is a vegan diet inherently healthy. If it's full of sugar and processed garbage, you'll still be at a very high risk to get metabolic syndrome and to die young and unhealthy.
You have to be careful and smart about what you eat, either way. A vegan diet eliminates one potential source of health problems, but many others still remain.
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Most people should eat more fruits and veggies. That would be good, because, generally, we eat way too few of them, and way too much processed garbage
The whole fruit or vegetable, mind you. There was a craze for a while of drinking vegetable juices (like the '60s all over again, but with worse music), which defeats much of the purpose of eating the fruit or vegetable in the first place.
A vegan diet eliminates one potential source of health problems, but many others still remain.
And introduce two new problems. Vegans are frequently deficient in vitamin D and vitamin B12.
Vitamin D comes in two varieties useful to humans, ergocalciferol (known as D2) specific to plants and cholecalciferol (known as D3) specific to animals. D3 is considerably easi
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/beyond-meat-health-vegan-burger-plant-based#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20Beyond%20Meat%20burger%20is%20technically%20a%20processed,study%20by%20the%20National%20Institutes%20of%20Health%20found.
Kentucky Fried Fat Nodules (Score:2)
No Thanks. Give me the real bird, please.
They are dying to get us to eat meat subsitutes (Score:5, Insightful)
Imagine a society where everyone is paying top dollar for cheap & abundant vegetation and insects highly processed into something edible by extremely expensive equipment and proprietary processes. That is where we are headed, this is how the tech industry will monopolise food. There will be a big move to make traditional meat & 'straight from the garden' veg go out of fashion, lots of sponsored studies highlighting the dangers of eating non-highly-proccessed foods & online campaings against meat (any meatless startup wanting to do this just needs to hand PETA a lump sum)
Re:They are dying to get us to eat meat subsitutes (Score:5, Informative)
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As if almost always the case the push behind eat substitutes is about making money. Depending on who you ask there are about 15MM people in the US who eat vegan/vegetarian diets, many of them fairly new to it. This fake meat works well as a transition food, people who are used to eating real meat can get a similar taste and texture and all that while they learn to c
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As a kid, I had surgery in a Seventh Day Adventist hospital, whose food was vegetarian. The main course was sometimes canned Loma Linda Vege-Burger which I liked, or a canned peanut/soy pseudo bologna called Nuteena, with a texture poised between liverwurst and cranberry sauce, which I did not like. It was a kid adventure that introduced the notion that some people do not eat meat.
Today I eat some meat, but I prefer vegetables to stand on their own merits. During the 2020 pre-vaccine time when I wanted t
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I started experimenting, and evolved a vegan lentil soup that is both the best thing that I have ever cooked regularly, is devoid of kale but includes factionally divisive Brussels sprouts, and is now my main food.
Recipe?
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Why are people so offended about the idea of making veg taste like meat?
Humans make meat test like veg all the time, or have you never had any kind of seasoning on your meat? Because if you have it's pretty much entirely veg based. Even BBQ sauce is vegetarian for crying out loud so does that mean when someone puts BBQ sauce on some chicken wings they should stop trying to make meat taste like veg and just eat BBQ sauce by itself?
Humans have long experimented with food flavours and textures, I really can't
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Why are people so offended about the idea of making veg taste like meat?
Or, in the case of A1 steak sauce, making meat taste like sludge at the bottom of Chernobyl.
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Ingredients: tomato puree (water, tomato paste), vinegar, corn syrup, salt, raisin paste, crushed orange puree, spices (contains celery), dried garlic, caramel color, dried onions, potassium sorbate (to preserve freshness), xanthan gum.
I mean, it's not my favorite thing, but it pretty much tastes like what's in it. Dunno why anybody would want steak to taste like that, but whatever.
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Ingredients: tomato puree (water, tomato paste), vinegar, corn syrup, salt, raisin paste, crushed orange puree, spices (contains celery), dried garlic, caramel color, dried onions, potassium sorbate (to preserve freshness), xanthan gum.
I mean, it's not my favorite thing, but it pretty much tastes like what's in it. Dunno why anybody would want steak to taste like that, but whatever.
Most meat dishes you want umami enhancing ingredients, plus sweet, acid, and salty.
Tomato, garlic, raisin, celery, and onion enhance umami
corn syrup, raisin, and orange provide sweet
vinegar provides acidity
salt provides salty
other ingredients are for texture, color, and preservation purposes.
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One things to point out most vegetarians/vegans never really liked the taste of meat anyways, and probably didn't eat too much of it anyways. So popular vegetarian meals are prepared and cooked to the people do don't care for the taste of meat anyways.
Sure I can enjoy a well cooked Portobello Mushroom Sandwich, it isn't going to replace a craving for a hamburger. However if I were to eat a Beyond Beef burger, while I can still taste the difference and I know it is fake, It does offer a lot of the texture,
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I assure you, people aren't trying to fool themselves into thinking they don't eat meat. Those are culinary terms and chefs have been using weird names for all sorts of things not just meat for a very long time. Your goal of turning everyone into a vegan is not going to be as easy as changing their vocabulary.
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I assure you there are most certainly people who only eat meat that feels more distanced from the animal because I know a few people like that. My buddy's wife for instance will only eat boneless skinless chicken breast (and it better be all of those things) as far as meat goes and by her own account it is not at all because she's trying to eat healthy.
Then there's the habit of cutting everything off our cuts of meat that could clearly be identified as a specific animal part. How often do you see fins or fi
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Ah yes clearly your one anecdote is evidence enough for a blanket statement about society as a whole. I guess you haven't heard of the carnivore diet or that people hunt and prepare the meat themselves? I have a freezer full of venison from a deer that I killed and dressed myself.
Then there's the habit of cutting everything off our cuts of meat that could clearly be identified as a specific animal part. How often do you see fins or fish heads on seafood in US restaurants. Heads on poultry?
Butchers do that because preparing meat is a skill that most people don't know. Its a convenience. And fish heads aren't generally consumed because they are mostly bone. But at least in my grocery store, which is just a normal Krog
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Go back and read my post. I said there were people that were like that I never said that all people were like that or even most.
I also like how you try to call me out for anecdotal evidence (even though in my post I actually use anecdotal evidence correctly) and then go and provide me with exactly what you try to ding me with. Shopping in my own area though, I haven't seen fish sold with the head on since the early 90's.
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It's not just the names, we prefer meat products that don't look anything like the animal they come from. In Japan and other eastern countries they often leave inedible parts of the animal there, like the tail sticking out of tempura: https://www.thespruceeats.com/... [thespruceeats.com]
Re:They are dying to get us to eat meat subsitutes (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not just the names, we prefer meat products that don't look anything like the animal they come from. In Japan and other eastern countries they often leave inedible parts of the animal there, like the tail sticking out of tempura: https://www.thespruceeats.com/... [thespruceeats.com]
Starry gazy pie anyone? https://d1zkpmdxaytijy.cloudfr... [cloudfront.net]
Shrimp, roast pig, lobster, Ham hocks, lamb, lots of things we eat look like the animal they came from. Some things like cow meat are kind of difficult to serve whole.
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Inedible? Given the number of tempura shrimp tails I've consumed over the years, I'm pretty sure those aren't inedible.
The heads are edible too: https://www.seriouseats.com/th... [seriouseats.com]
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Modern English speakers have a clever dodge for the animal/food question. When we raise and herd them, they are "cattle" or "sheep", then when we eat them, we wave a French magic wand and obtain "beef" and "mutton".
This has more to do with French and Germanic languages colliding in medieval England than with modern English speakers attempting to hide where our food comes from.
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Or... (Score:2, Insightful)
They are simply jumping on the latest trend. But yes everything is a deep state conspiracy to fuck with people.
Re:They are dying to get us to eat meat subsitutes (Score:4, Interesting)
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That is where we are headed, this is how the tech industry will monopolise food.
Or maybe, you know just hear me out, maybe the market will reflect what people want. If people want fake shitty food, that's what the market will give them, if people want actual food, that's what the market will give them. This comment is the epitome of Slashdot think. Conspiracy theory marked as insightful. Oh wait, let's pepper some more crazy into this comment.
There will be a big move to make traditional meat & 'straight from the garden' veg go out of fashion, lots of sponsored studies highlighting the dangers of eating non-highly-proccessed foods & online campaings against meat
Do you have proof that such a thing is on the horizon? No? Pfft, Proof!? Slashdot needs no proof.
This site has gone to shit. And incidentally that kind of hits on my premise here. See, the users of this site have turned it into shit. As much as the user's would love to blame the editors here, it's mostly the users of this site that have made this site the exact thing that they bitch about the editors about. The biggest problem of Slashdot is as close as the nearest mirror. Likewise, if we get shitty food, it'll be the consumers that give us the exact thing that everyone hates. The public is a mass of idiots, they say they want something, but in reality they want to hate shit and they vote for more things that they can bitch about. And Slashdot has become an incredible model for this. Nobody wants actual insightful things, we just want to hate shit. We just want to yell at kids being on our lawns. That's all this site has turned into, idiots yelling at other idiots. Maybe the every so often comment from someone who still hearkens back from the old days when this site was actually good and you could easily learn something from it.
The fact that enough people voted this QAnon induced bullshit to 5:Insightful is evidence this site is a husk of what it once was.
any meatless startup wanting to do this just needs to hand PETA a lump sum
Fucking eh everyone. You should all be ashamed that this fucking comment is insightful. This is just some deep fried deep state bullshit. This website is a joke.
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insects highly processed into something edible
"What happens if the engine stops? We all freeze and die!"
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They started with a high end product that was as close to meat as possible in taste and texture. That will be refined and cheaper versions will appear. A lot of people will find that they are not so hung up on the taste and texture of meat specifically, and there are plenty of cheaper alternatives.
It's kinda like orange squash. It's not exactly like orange juice, and many people actually prefer it. It's also very cheap and most supermarkets have their own brand versions.
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Ok...you got me on this one.
I've never heard the term "orange squash".
Is this an orange juice analog made from squash plant or something?
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It appears to be a class of orange themed drinks containing trace amounts of orange products, like SunnyD or Mountain Dew.
Like those products which compare rather poorly to the real thing, these fried erasers are essentially seed oil fried in seed oil. The current problems with inflammatory diets being caused by out of balance omega6 fats will only be exaggerated by this "solution" rather than lessened.
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It's concentrated orange juice, or orange flavoured liquid. You add water to it to drink.
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... insects highly processed into something edible
Already available at Whole Foods and even at Kroger.
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Re: They are dying to get us to eat meat subsitute (Score:2)
That sounds like factory farming to me. Where the "extremely expensive equipment" is cows, chickens, pigs, and the equipment to farm and slaughter them. The main differences are that some processes are not proprietary, and the number of insects included is limited by law.
Pls don't give your cats fast food (Score:5, Informative)
the salt is very bad for them.
Re: Pls don't give your cats fast food (Score:2)
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Cats generally aren't big on table scraps anyway.
You should have met my last cat. Even though she was well above a healthy weight, she was convinced that we were starving her for 15 straight years.
She would wolf down almost anything that fell on the floor if we didn't grab it fast enough. She also would chow down on almost any potted herb or houseplant, including deer-resistant species like chives and mint. My favorite episode was when someone dropped a full cob of corn; she rushed over and started chomping on it heartily. She actually managed to get the
Taste (Score:3)
I like the comment in the summary: "I'm frankly not totally sure that I'd be able to tell the difference between them and one of KFC's discontinued nugget recipes in a blind taste test."
So one thing without taste covered in salt tastes exactly the same as another thing without taste covered in salt. :-) Honestly I think the surprise here is that KFC has real chicken. You'd never have guessed from the slop they serve you.
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Mechanically recovered head meat is why I only eat chicken I know the origin of.
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Their chicken is shit compared to what it was like when I was a kid, because they used to use pressure fryers and now they just use open fryers. That's why the breading isn't crunchy any more, even competently done pan fried chicken is now better than KFC. KFC literally started with home pressure cookers lined up on a table. You get a crunchier-breaded piece of chicken in a Wendy's chicken sandwich than you do at KFC, because Wendy's uses a pressure fryer for that.
I stopped going to KFC when they took away the pressure fryers. There's just no point any more. I can get greasy, soggy, disappointing chicken in any number of places.
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That's interesting.
I thought they still used them...when did they nix the pressure fryers?
I wonder what Popeye's uses on their chicken?
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The Original Recipe is and has always been pressure fried. The Extra Crispy is open fried, and nowhere near as good.
And the whole point of pressure frying is that it's LESS crunchy.
And no, they didn't use home pressure cookers, those are NOT designed to handle frying. There is such a thing as a home pressure fryer of course, I have one.
Re: Taste (Score:2)
Yes, they did use home pressure cookers. https://www.kfcfryers.com/hist... [kfcfryers.com]
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Honestly I think the surprise here is that KFC has real chicken. You'd never have guessed from the slop they serve you.
Their fried bone-in chicken is decent, albeit no more or less unhealthy than anything else that's been batter dipped and fried in grease. The rest of their food is pretty bad, but who goes to KFC for anything besides the bone-in fried chicken anyway?
Chicken skin and mashed potatoes and gravy. Aka gravy. That's what it is about.
The "Tastes Like Chicken" Challenge (Score:5, Funny)
"The actual "Beyond" component of Beyond Fried Chicken tastes, well, like chicken."
(Mother Nature) "Uh, that's not exactly a challenge...in case you hadn't noticed."
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Fast food chicken nuggets are already so heavily processed that they arguably don't even taste like actual chicken, so the fact that the "Beyond" nuggets supposedly taste the same isn't that impressive.
Gizmodo is state propoganda (Score:3)
Of course they're "looking into it".
Paid shill for wealthy lords and barons?
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Gizmodo is state propoganda
Is KFC part of the deep state now? Last i heard they don't sell pizzas so I assumed not. Perhaps they're using Jewish space lasers to cook the chicken and get the outside nice and crispy. I'm not sure if orbital or indeed any laser based cooking is treyf or not.
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A lot of their business is based on deep fryers, so maybe you have a point!
Beyond Meat products are packed full of sugars (Score:2, Insightful)
So, if I eat this? (Score:4, Insightful)
This is good for the planet and even worse for me than the actual chicken KFC.
Got it.
In fact, this sounds revolting, even worse than usual KFC. Incredibly fatty amorphous "maybe chicken" crap. Is this the best US food industry can bring us?
Small wonder 90% of Americans have an unhealthy diet: https://arstechnica.com/scienc... [arstechnica.com]
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To be fair, unlike the regular products, this has no saturated fat according to their nutritional information.
Their regular products don't contain much trans fat any more since they took it out of their fryers. Allegedly.
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I believe in the US trans fats are now banned. But their regular products still do have saturated (but not trans) fats.
What's the problem to be solved here? (Score:2, Insightful)
If people don't want to eat meat then just don't go to KFC. I guess this keeps KFC as an option for people that eat out as a group when there might be some that choose to not eat meat. I recall going to a restaurant to eat during a field trip for a class while at university where one student was a vegetarian. We went to some expensive soup and sandwich place and this poor guy paid something like $15 for a peanut butter sandwich. That was his choice, although had we chosen a different restaurant he may h
Re:What's the problem to be solved here? (Score:4, Insightful)
If people don't want to eat meat then just don't go to KFC
This is just dumb. KFC want those people's money and those people appear happy to spend it. Why on earth should they listen to you in this regard?
Humans evolved to eat meat.
Humans are omnivores, not obligate carnivores. We've evolved so that we can eat meat not so that we have to.
If there's a concern on killing another living creature to live then just get over it. You kill living bacteria and viruses with every breath.
Those aren't even close to sentient.
Eating salted pea protein and corn syrup instead of meat is even worse for one's health.
Oh you're right, those are the only choices.
What is the problem being solved here?
Some people don't want to eat meat, and KFC is happy to take their money in exchange for something they are happy to eat. It's not complicated.
A problem I'm seeing is caving in to the mental illness of vegetarianism.
On the other hand it's totally mentally healthy to be so heavily and angrily invested in what other people eat.
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Some people don't want to eat meat, and KFC is happy to take their money in exchange for something they are happy to eat. It's not complicated.
But why make vegetables taste like meat? I don't try to make strawberries taste like bratwurst.
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That should be "I don't try to make bratwurst taste like strawberries". If people want the taste of meat then eat meat. If they don't want to eat meat then why go to such effort to make something that is not meat taste like meat? I'm not seeing people try to make meat not taste like meat.
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But why make vegetables taste like meat?
Why not?
If people want the taste of meat then eat meat. If they don't want to eat meat then why go to such effort to make something that is not meat taste like meat?
Lots of people like the taste of meat but don't like the various things involved in eating meat. You like the taste, but don't pretend that your personal preferences are somehow "rational", because they aren't. They're just preferences.
Eating bacon is never a logical choice, but I do it anyway.
I don't tr
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I don't think your "can't be grown in one place" claim is accurate as it certainly doesn't hold up for California at the very least.
Furthermore pretty much everyone's diet nowadays is shipped in from all over (at least in first world nations) This is true whether you're eating processed food or meat and veggies. Sure, you can purposely shop local but even here in California where anything but tropical plants grows you'll find your diet quite limited only doing local only
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Holy shit, where do I even begin with this? You seem convinced that vegetarianism is bad for one's health. Is that why there are 1.5 billion healthy vegetarians in the world? Or how about that plant-based diets are associated with a lower risk of cardiovascular morbidity and mortality in a general population. [ahajournals.org] Or how about the fact that our closest ancestors, the great apes, eat almost entirely plant-based diets?
Let me explain to you the problem this fake meat is fixing. It's a problem of physics. Virtually
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if you want to eat meat then why aren't you eating it raw straight off the animal?
What makes you think I don't?
You typed a lot of words there and got no closer to answering what I thought was a simple question. Now, can someone explain the problem being solved with "Beyond Fried Chicken"?
wanna be meat (Score:3)
Does anyone actually want fake meat? I'd rather not eat meat than eat fake meat. And are these fakes any healthier? I doubt it.
Re:wanna be meat (Score:5, Informative)
Does anyone actually want fake meat?
"In 2020, Beyond Meat, Inc. generated approximately 406.8 million U.S. dollars in revenue worldwide."
hmm I'm gonna go with yes.
Re:wanna be meat (Score:4, Informative)
And somehow Beyond Meat is still losing money. Some people will buy anything you advertise. I know several people that have tried Beyond Meat products, I don't know anyone that actively chooses Beyond Meat products on an on-going basis over traditional products. They don't want to pay extra for an imitation. These products are a trade-off between personal health and climate change. Fast food chains selling imitation meat are doing nothing more than trying to green-wash their image. But the imitation meats are highly processed and high in saturated fats, which is pretty much more of the same for fast food generally.
https://www.health.harvard.edu... [harvard.edu]
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Regardless of profit people demonstrably want the product.
I have one once in a while, there's a local "plant based" restaurant that I like. It's nice being able to get a pretty serviceable cheeseburger without having to worry if I've gone over my cheese allocation for the week and will have a long and uncomfortable spell on the bog.
I usually prefer hamburgers, but not always.
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I have a question for you: If you for whatever reason don't eat meat (religion, environmental, cute fluffy animals, or whatever ideology you have), why would you additionally intentionally try to limit the variety of taste sensations you can experience?
Maybe someone doesn't like the idea of killing animals or the animals generating methane, but really love the taste of a well cooked chicken. Why shouldn't they try to fake that taste if they can do it in a healthy and nutritious manner (though given the shit
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You are free to enjoy your tofurkey or whatever imitation meat makes you happy. I know environmentalists, and vegetarians, and vegans, and people with health issues, that choose not to eat meat. I don't know a single one that picks these imitation meat fast food products on an on-going basis. There must be a market for it or KFC would not bother. But do you know anyone that actively chooses these products? Know anyone that finds the imitation products superior in any way to their natural counterparts (bes
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During our recent food shortages, fake meat was about the only meat like thing left on the shelf!
Red Green covered this in 1995 (Score:2)
The number of real-world things that Red Green invented for a laugh just keeps growing.... This time, see "The Not-Chicken Franchise" [youtube.com].
I'm waiting for ... (Score:2)
Beyond Soylent (Score:2)
I just hope the ad campaign uses a CGI Charles Heston exclaiming "Beyond Soylent Green is plaanntsss !!
Soylent Green is people! (Score:2)
Now on the subject of what Soylent Red or Soylent Yellow is made of, well, I either forgot or never knew.
Why did the meatless sandwich cross the road? (Score:5, Funny)
Because the meat eater threw it there when he discovered it has no meat.