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Mozilla Celebrates the Release of Firefox 100 (mozilla.org) 77

Posted by msmash from the moving-forward dept.
vm shares the blogpost of Mozilla releasing Firefox 100, and outlines some of thoughts: Out of the ashes of Netscape/AOL, Firebird rose as a promising new browser. A significant name change and a hundred releases later, Firefox 100 is still the underdog that keeps on fighting. With my mounting annoyance at all the Google services underpinning Chrome, I've since discovered and used Ungoogled Chromium, Waterfox, LibreWolf, and a handful of other lesser known spins on Chrome or Firefox. On mobile, Brave really does the best job at ad blocking whether you're on iOS or Android but the Mozilla Foundations is probably still the largest dev group fighting the good fight when it comes to both privacy and security enhancements.That's not to say that the Chromium team isn't security savvy -- I only wish they were just a little less Google. Anyhow, tell us about your favorite browser in the comments and have a look at Mozilla's latest release while you're at it.
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  • Tried to get first post with Firefox 100, but it took a while to get control again after the upgrade.

  • I've been rocking Waterfox for almost ten years now. Works magnificent. Takes almost every Firefox native plugin, but the native x64 build sure runs smoother than stock Firefox. Not sure exactly what they strip out and optimize, but I like it.

  • Thank you, Mozilla (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dskoll ( 99328 ) on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @12:37PM (#62499748) Homepage

    Firefox is my main browser on both desktop and mobile. We need to have a viable competitor to Chrome to avoid a monoculture and avoid Google taking complete control of web standards.

    • Re:Thank you, Mozilla (Score:4)

      by DarkRookie2 ( 5551422 ) on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @12:40PM (#62499766)
      Except it seems that Mozilla doesn't care
      They keep adding more and more bullshit while taking away features I liked.
      Stupid bullshit and the lack of features is why I never picked up Chrome, and will not switch to Edge.

      • Except it seems that Mozilla doesn't care

        They keep adding more and more bullshit while taking away features I liked.

        I just wish it didn't use so much ram. I only have 35 tabs open and it's using almost 4gb. A few weeks ago my cad programs were going extremely slow and I found it using 10gb.

        • I just wish it didn't use so much ram. I only have 35 tabs open and it's using almost 4gb. A few weeks ago my cad programs were going extremely slow and I found it using 10gb.

          You can always use Lynx or some other browser that doesn't implement modern web standards, doesn't include tab isolation for stability, and doesn't include sandbox environments for security.

          I for one am happy that is uses extra resources to no longer crash, no longer let a single plugin bring down the entire browser, no longer let malware screw around on my PC. It's not the 90s anymore. Throw some more RAM in your computer.

          As for the 10GB, that's what's called a memory leak. Bugs happen, on every browser. E

          • I put in 32 GB of DDR4 3200 RAM for $100 in my desktop. There's really no reason not to do it if you can swing an extra fifty bucks over 16 GB even though, yeah, 32 GB is overkill.

        • Solution:
          Auto tab unloader addon [add0n.com]

          Or run 32bit firefox if you can still build that... They don't care about users much in the UX dept of mozilla - you can't set Firefox to be less aggressive with RAM usage; it can work well within a limit but since 64bit they aim for % of your total RAM. Maybe somebody could find a way to lie to firefox about RAM. I've never had it exceed a % of system memory so they are still capable of doing so.

          Run it in a VM? LOL! remove some DIMMs and then it'll use less RAM!

          • I often run with an unholy amount of tabs (> 1000) and found it was eating into swap, after some time, on my previous 16GB desktop. Since there are obviously other processes running you may still be correct about the percentage, but I ended up adding another 16GB, solving the problem forever.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          That's only about 110mb per tab. Have you seen the size of web pages these days?

          Try an extension that sleeps tabs (unloads them).

        • Honestly? I have over 3500 tabs (no, not kidding) and I know of no other browser that would even consider working under those conditions. ðY

          • What the fuck.
            And my friends would laugh at me because I used to have around 200 open.
            You're multitasker supreme.

          • Honestly? I have over 3500 tabs (no, not kidding) and I know of no other browser that would even consider working under those conditions. ðY

            3,500 tabs open? yeah, right.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by lsllll ( 830002 )
      On my gaming machine I use Firefox, although it has become a memory hog due to the number of my windows/tabs as the new suspend methods don't really save that much RAM. On work machine (Debian), I still use Chrome for debugging (web application), but for regular browsing I switched to Edge and have never looked back (3-4 months).

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I've been wanting to switch to Firefox for years, but the Android version is broken on Pixel phones. Font scaling is screwed up.

      I tried to fix it myself once but just getting it to build is a nightmare, let alone navigating that codebase and debugging it.

  • Since the version number ticked over to 57.

  • List of add ons (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Ajay Anand ( 2838487 ) on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @12:40PM (#62499764)
    Addons I use

    Code Injector (to remove sticky elements from all web pages)

    Dark Reader

    Disable Javascript (to disable javascript with one click and continue reading articles without annoyance of any popups)

    FB Purity (to remove ads and sponsored or recommended content from facebook feed)

    Firefox multiaccount container (to live multiple lives simultaneously using general, personal, professional, banking and shopping containers)

    Privacy Badger (fan of EFF)

    Thumbnail Ratings Bar for Youtube (to help skip crappy videos)

    uBlock origin (definitely required)

    vimium (vim like keyboard shortcuts to navigate webpages)

    jshelter (to limit access to advanced JS features, like canvas, to websites to keep CPU cool and provide enhanced protection against miners)

    Can you imagine my life without Firefox?

    • This is a good list,

      I would like to throw in a vote for Foxy Calculator [mozilla.org] (Cloud Calc on Chrome) which I use every damn day as it does unit conversions right in the box and several other neat tricks.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by caseih ( 160668 )

      I agree. I can't live without my group of addons either.

      But enjoy them while you can. With every release it seems like Mozilla is hell bent on removing our ability to customize the browser to look and act like we want it to.

    • Can you imagine my life without Firefox?

      I can imagine you running all the same extension in Chrome, yes. I'm thankful for Firefox, but it doesn't have any extension advantage at the moment (though it might again soon thanks to Google's manifest V3).

    • Your list is missing Noscript [mozilla.org]. By default all websites' javascript is disabled and must be specifically whitelisted.
  • I still think FF 2.0 is the best. I absolutely HATE how FF updates every f-ing time I launch. Other than that it is great.
    • Doesn't happen like this on Linux (native or flatpak) unless you launch the binaries directly from a locally downloaded folder. I use Android without signing in to Play Store during the setup. So all apps on all of my devices, rely 100% on my decision to update, which I do during the last week of every month.

      I show 0 tolerance toward automatic updates.

    • I still think FF 2.0 is the best.

      You probably just meant it as a joke but I have a FF 2.0 in a RHEL 5 still active at work, and it barely can connect to anything at all, (including /.) typically failing with "can 't connect securely with the site - no common encryption algorithm."

  • Congrats! (Score:2, Funny)

    by OrangeTide ( 124937 )

    100 tries to get it right.

    You did get it right, right?

  • Is because it still doesn't have vertical tabs. Vivaldi does, so I might go back to it, but its performance has really tanked compared to FF on Linux. I hate Mozilla and everything they represent now, but I don't want to use a fucking Chrome/Blink based browser. I feel like there are little to now options for browsers today. I miss Galeon.
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] - surprisingly little visible changes for some 350 KLOC changes though, but otherwise works well ;-)

  • Big Feature (Score:5, Informative)

    by Dwedit ( 232252 ) on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @01:02PM (#62499864) Homepage

    If anyone looked at the changelog, there's something big in there. It finally has overlay support, allowing a faster path for videos to play. That reduces CPU and GPU usage when playing videos, and it's a big deal.

    • Are you shitting me? FF wasnt using hardware overlays, a thing thats been there since the 8088 days?
  • While I don't recall it being called Firebird, I have frequently switched between various browsers over the years. I currently use Firefox and TOR on my laptop, and I have 2 smartphones. The one running Mobian uses Firefox as its default browser. The workstations at my business are running Red Hat and we have Chrome and Firefox installed on all of them. Interestingly my staff uses Firefox more than Chrome. While there are somethings I would like to see change in Firefox, it is an important part of the inter

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Scoth ( 879800 )

      It was only called Firebird a matter of months between Phoenix and Firefox due to pressure from the Firebird database. Only a couple 0.x releases were called that.

  • I've been happy with it since the dual G4 Mac and OS 10.2, forgot the version #.

  • Making life difficult for Windows 7 users (Score:5, Informative)

    by xack ( 5304745 ) on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @01:24PM (#62499962)
    Mozilla's download website has been broken In IE8 on Windows 7 for some time now (the default browser on fresh installs of Windows 7), and now the kb4474419 [microsoft.com] requirement makes it worse. I just tested installing Firefox in a fresh Windows 7 VM and it was harder than installing Linux. If Mozilla dosen't want to support Windows 7 properly then they should announce a proper end of life date and leave support to browsers like Mypal and New Moon instead.

    • Re:Making life difficult for Windows 7 users (Score:4, Informative)

      by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @01:30PM (#62499986)
      If you run the Windows 7 updates, you will get Edge 11 to use as your better browser downloader.
    • Why on earth are you not utilizing chocolatey [https://chocolatey.org/] or using a slip-streamed ISO? I agree it's a pain, but if you are going to install an operating system from 2009, you're going to have to be willing to wrangle it into modern application.
    • I haven't used Windows 7 in a long time. So I'm curious, doesn't downloading an offline MSI work? I'm using this link [mozilla.org] to download and test FF 100 (before it arrives as a native Debian GNU/Linux package). Among the options I see are ones for Windows 32- and 64-bit MSI installers.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by waspleg ( 316038 )

      Eh, I'm still running Windows 7 Ultimate, I'm writing this from Firefox which just upgraded from 99.01 to 100 seemingly without any issues - literally less than a couple minutes ago. I admit I haven't had to reinstall for a very long time but I don't remember it ever being an issue.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by EvilSS ( 557649 )

      Mozilla's download website has been broken In IE8 on Windows 7 for some time now (the default browser on fresh installs of Windows 7)

      I just tried it in Netscape 9.0.0.6 with the TLS 1.1/1.2 patch and I could go to their website and download just fine. Maybe try that.

    • I just tested installing Firefox in a fresh Windows 7 VM and it was harder than installing Linux.

      Good. Install Linux then. It'll be one less unpatched EOL OS floating around the internet. I'm glad Mozilla and MS are working together to make it harder to continue your anti-vax lifestyle.

      If Mozilla dosen't want to support Windows 7 properly

      Yet their software runs fine on Windows 7. I'd simply paste you a link to the download since it is afterall easy enough to get to, but I don't want to encourage your reckless behaviour running an out of date, unpatched OS on the internet.

      • Well, I guess I should "upgrade" to Win 11.

        Actually, no I can't. My laptop computer is not supported on Win 11. Win 10 perhaps? But I would be "running an out of date, unpatched OS on the internet." Win 7 is the last version that didn't get in my way and didn't track me. Did I mention that it SCREAMS on my 4 year old Dell laptop with a unsupported kaby lake processor?

        Running NoScript with an extensive rhost file and a firewall keeps everything at bay. Not clicking on every link presented to me is also

        • Maybe at some point you should bite the bullet and stop using a potato.

          I also don't fuck without a condom and I highly recommend it for the spread of disease, but not everyone acts responsibly, either during sex or when considering the implications of an unpatched out of date system on the internet simply because you can't be stuffed spending a couple of hundred dollars on a laptop.

  • I'm not saying Firefox is perfect, but many users will have several dozen tabs open - all running various cilentside addons and/or Javascript, etc. - and then complain that the browser isn't responsive enough and/or is a memory hog. They're trying to load up a browser like a semi with 100,000 of cargo and expect it to effortlessly drive up to the top of the Matterhorn.

    I'm also not saying that Chrome is terrible, but FF is as nimble as Chrome in my experience. And the privacy issues in Chrome (which should b

  • If they work just a little harder, they can get to version 1000 of useless changes.

    • just make browser a terminal/virtual terminal type and get it over with. and bring xorg back(kidding).

  • So as usual, everyone in here that's OH SO SMART, knows what would make THE PERFECT BROWSER.
    Well? Where is it? Firefox is FOSS so you can even use that as a base, though of course you'd still be dependent on them for updates to Gecko, so maybe you should just built your own rendering engine all by yourself.
  • I still need the RUST port to make this version run on OS/2 Warp. (ArcaOS)

  • ... Waterfox, LibreWolf

    I like these applications and want to use them. However, the open-source-only mantra of these browsers means one can't log-in to a number of subscription services. So, no, just no.

  • They really killed it. It's like they rewrote Firefox to break Scrapbook.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by modecx ( 130548 )

      Scrapbook was the best thing ever. There's no justice in the world until scrapbook is back and Pocket is removed.
      I keep an old version of Firefox around just to be able to go back to a huge collection of sites I've archived with it, many of which no longer exist.

  • FF is my preferred option across all platforms, basically because it is not Microsoft or Google. (Though as often noted, it's money mostly comes from Google and the searches and ads Firefox users see.) And I guess it's fine if number 100 prompts a review of Firefox, but version numbers just depend on your criteria for adding 1; 100 could hardly be less meaningful except I guess an indication that the project has survived.

    Lots of projects have changed their version numbering and number policies, in some cas

  • Firefox 100 is still the underdog ...

    No, Firefox is again the underdog. It once was as a rising star, it now is as a bloatware ridden white dwarf.

  • At home I use up-to-date firefox with uMatrix and a few other privacy-enhancing extensions and one called Night Eye which intelligently creates a darkmode version of any website I visit on-the-fly, it works so well I paid for the full version. On my phone I use Privacy Browser (available from F-droid) because it has lots of built in privacy enhancing features. At work I'm forced to use Chrome with no extensions allowed which is a nightmare of an experience but at least it makes me appreciate the ad blocki

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