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Mozilla Releases Firefox 102 (mozilla.org) 44

Posted by msmash from the moving-forward dept.
williamyf writes: Today, Mozilla released Firefox 102.
New features include:
* Tired of too many windows crowding your screen? You can now disable automatic opening of the download panel every time a new download starts. Read more.
* Firefox now mitigates query parameter tracking when navigating sites in ETP strict mode.
* Subtitles and captions for Picture-in-Picture (PiP) are now available at HBO Max, Funimation, Dailymotion, Tubi, Disney+ Hotstar, and SonyLIV. This allows you to view video in a small window pinned to a corner of the screen while navigating between apps or browsing content on the main screen.

But do not get fooled, the most important feature is that this release is an ESR, this is super-important of a host of reasons:

* Firefox ESR is the basis for KaiOS (an evolution of BootToGecko), an OS for Semi-Smart Phones very popular in India (100milion+), SE Asia + Africa (~60Milion), so, whatever made the cut in 102 will define the base capabilities for KaiOS for the next year.

* Firefox ESR is the basis for Thunderbird, so, if you use Thunderbird or a derivative, whatever made the cut in 102 will underpin Thunderbird for the next year.

* Many popular Linux distros (like Debian or Kali) use Firefox ESR as the default browser.

* Many companies and organizations use Firefox ESR as their default browser, and many SW development companies certify Firefox ESR as an alowed browser for their SW.

So, 102 is a very important release, becuase it brings a year of advances to ESR.
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  • Try pry from my cold dead hands (Score:3)

    by omfglearntoplay ( 1163771 ) on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @04:00PM (#62658058)

    Firefox baby, new release sounds good to me.

  • Mozilla has still not put back the option to never be notified of any update.

    Such a simple feature taken away, never to return again. Tis better to harass your customers than give them what they want.

    • Re:And yet (Score:5, Informative)

      by xwin ( 848234 ) on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @04:26PM (#62658094)
      Quick search gives you this link https://www.webnots.com/how-to... [webnots.com]. Just follow method 2 and it is done. It is just a simple text file. If it bothers you that much, creating this text file should not be a problem.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Ceiu ( 8681133 )
        This prevents you from updating at all until you turn it off. It's viable for getting rid of the nag, but it's very heavy-handed and a little frustrating that it has to be all-or-nothing.
    • I'm sure you don't represent the majority of Firefox's customers. Why would you NEVER want to know if your browser has an update? Do you never update your browser? Why in the world would you do that?

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Ceiu ( 8681133 )
        Not the person you're responding to, but I like to update when I know I have time to address any ancillary nonsense that'll require effort on my part to deal with. You know, such as extension-breaking changes, or major UI changes and such. I don't like being pestered every few minutes or whenever I change tabs when I've already told the thing I'm not going to be updating. At least give me a session of peace, or just let me manually check and update like it used to. The update nagging is one of the major re

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        "Majority of the Firefox's customers" have already left, in part because of design BS like this. It's probably true that the tiny minority of original user base that still remains with Firefox doesn't really care.

        In fact, it's a good question how many of remaining users care about anything browser related, and not just going with "my old IT guy/friend told me firefox is good in 2010, so I'm still using it".

        • "Majority of the Firefox's customers" have already left, in part because of design BS like this. It's probably true that the tiny minority of original user base that still remains with Firefox doesn't really care.

          In fact, it's a good question how many of remaining users care about anything browser related, and not just going with "my old IT guy/friend told me firefox is good in 2010, so I'm still using it".

          I came to Firefox in 2009 on my own volition (I am the IT guy in my circle) mostly for speed and cross-compatibility (at the time IE, Trident Edge and Safari* were not cross platform).

          Remained for 2 reasons:
          Slower cadence compared to Google.
          Better ad-blocking capabilities (compared to Chrome)

          Am I satisfied with the current state of firefox? Not, and the trajectory does not invite to optimism, but, for my use case, it still does the job.

          * Safari ran on Windows, but not Linux, I wanted all 3.

      • "Why would you NEVER want to know if your browser has an update?"

        One simple reason: I use the portable version of FF (or many other software packages when possible). Therefore I'm completely uninterested in the versioning of the base product - and the portable version updates (automatically) when a new portable version is available (which - at least for products like FF - takes not very long, mostly two or three days).

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by theCoder ( 23772 )

        On some systems at $WORK, I use a Firefox installed by the IT group, and often is it out of date. I don't have permission to upgrade Firefox. Firefox itself knows this because at least once a day it shows a popup saying that there is a new version but I don't have permission to install it. But maybe I should download it anyway, just for fun?

        Fortunately, I spend most of my time on a Linux client where that message has been suppressed by a more knowledgeable admin, but on the Windows systems it is annoying

      • I've got an old version of FF and will never update it. I've no interest in 90% of the changes they make and definitely do not want all the constant crapulent UI changes. Got all the usual ad blockers/Noscript etc. and it works fine for me apart from crappy sites that use too much javashit but I don't care at all about such sites.

        I've also got my great grandfathers hammer in my toolkit. It still works fine (and is still on the original handle :)).

  • We are getting less download windows cause you all hate having extra windows.... And closed captions for apps that produce more windows

    • The download window wouldn't be such an issue if I could write an add ons to make a status bar, but you cant'

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by narcc ( 412956 )

        Why would you need to? The download icon already shows the progress of the current downloads.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          Why would you need to? The download icon already shows the progress of the current downloads.

          Because you'd like to know what's being downloaded? There are still plenty of annoying sites that download a piece of malware alongside the file you want, and if you're downloading multiple files at once, it's useful to know when a file completes so you can start another download. A single unified progress bar does little to help.

          Some sites like the Internet Archive limit you to two downloads at once, so it's nice t

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by narcc ( 412956 )

            You should know what you clicked! If you're super forgetful, and need a reminder less than a second later, you probably shouldn't disable the automatic opening of the downloads window. Also, you can always just click the icon, which will open that window.

            Remember that in FireFox, you can have multiple concurrent downloads. A progress bar that shows just a single file really doesn't make any sense. If your solution to that is to have multiple progress bars showing multiple files, you already have that --

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by piojo ( 995934 )

              GP didn't say he clicked something and forgot it, he said the site served more files than requested. Also, there are ways a status bar/icon can show multiple progresses, but they haven't been implemented.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by narcc ( 412956 )

            Some sites like the Internet Archive limit you to two downloads at once, so it's nice to know when one finishes so you can start another, and you might not know because the combined progress bar averages all the progress.

            I forgot to add: This doesn't happen. In my test just now, I had four concurrent downloads.

            Even if it did happen, it's not like you'd need to wait. Clicking the link should still add it to the downloads list where you can click to retry the download later. Oh, yes, and you can always just click the icon to show the status of your downloads.

    • We are getting less download windows cause you all hate having extra windows....

      Yeah, it's a pretty dumb-ass "feature". Chrome and Edge are already annoying enough any time I'm doing remote support with a customer...

      So, click on the little arrow and it'll download a tool so I can remote to you. When the down completes, run it. The download will be... well, maybe in the bottom left, maybe in the upper right, maybe it will be invisible because you were impatient and clicked on anything during it. Screw it. Press Control-J on your keyboard.

      I am thoroughly sick and tired of the int

      • I am thoroughly sick and tired of the interfaceless interface

        This is why I find myself weirdly into Seamonkey, it's like Firefox/Mozilla back when it still had stuff

  • What is the ESR for Firefox?
    Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) is an official version of Firefox developed for large organizations like universities and businesses that need to set up and maintain Firefox on a large scale.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by cjmnews ( 672731 )

      Thanks!

      Searching on the acronym was a morass of medical and technical jargon that didn't really make sense in the first 10-20 results.

      • Searching on the acronym was a morass of medical and technical jargon that didn't really make sense in the first 10-20 results

        what is firefox esr [google.com]

        At the top of the page, the following snippet: Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) is an official version of Firefox developed for large organizations like universities and businesses that need to set up and maintain Firefox on a large scale. Firefox ESR does not come with the latest features but it has the latest security and stability fixes.

        This is the way, as the kids probably aren't saying any more by now. You literally just ask google the most pared-down natural language versio

  • Metrics (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

    Slashdot crowd: I disabled all metrics and user feedback.

    Slashdot crowd: Hey those fuckers took away my favorite features again!

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Slashdot crowd: I disabled all metrics and user feedback.

      Slashdot crowd: Hey those fuckers took away my favorite features again!

      And you think that Mozilla actually uses those metrics and user feedback to make Firefox better, not worse..

      Right.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

      "You refused the anal probe, therefore you obviously like anal. Let me add a bigger anal probe and with harsher texture!"

  • A few minor tweaks and fixes? Yup, that's a whole number up! Point release, what is that?

  • That got to be the most asked question after every Firefox release.

    • I do not know how to turn off UI changes in Firefox. And is becoming harder and harder to modify Firefox's appearance.

      But, at least, with Firefox ESR, the UI changes come ~42 weeks apart, instead of every 4~6 weeks. What's not to like?

  • Mostly off-topic, but since we are talking about thunderbird, how do you change the font size in the layout and the toolbars (Kubuntu) ? The messages can be changed with Ctrl-+, but although I've posted the question on numerous forums over the years I've never got a valid or understandable answer.
    • If I remember correctly, I managed when upgrading to a smallish 4k monitor with the dpi setting in the KDE control panel, display (monitor?) section. It might also be that it can be set through gnome/gtk settings, I've had to do that on KDE in the past...

  • Please only notify me every 1000 Firefox releases.

  • * Tired of too many windows crowding your screen? You can now disable automatic opening of the download panel every time a new download starts. Read more.

    Yeah the download panel opening every time a new download starts wasn't a thing until you stupidly changed this behaviour. And now you're touting it is a "feature" that you reverted to the old behaviour, after making pissed of users dig through about:config and look for the browser.download.alwaysOpenPanel setting and change it back to false where it belonged.

    Fuck you developers for gaslighting your users.

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