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YouTube Irks Users by Displaying 5 To 10 Unskippable Ads in a Row (pcmag.com) 262

Have you been encountering way too many unskippable ads on YouTube? You're not alone. PCMag: Oftentimes, YouTube only shows two ads before a video starts. But in recent weeks, some users on social media have reported seeing as many as five to eight or even 10 unskippable ads in a row. One user who encountered eight unskippable ads during a viewing said each ad was about five to 10 seconds in length. The high ad load is inevitably causing concerns YouTube will display more unskippable ads for all users in an effort to rake in more revenue. But the Google-owned platform told PCMag the sharp increase in the unskippable ads was merely a test.

"At YouTube, we're focused on helping brands connect with audiences around the world, and we're always testing new ways to surface ads that enhance the viewer experience," a YouTube spokesperson says in a statement. "We ran a small experiment globally that served multiple ads in an ad pod when viewers watched longer videos on connected TVs. The goal is to build a better experience for viewers by reducing ad breaks." In other words, the test was about showing the viewer more ads in the beginning of the YouTube video, rather than spacing them out. YouTube's spokesperson adds: "We have concluded this small experiment." But whether the platform will ramp up the unskippable ad rate in the future remains unclear.

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YouTube Irks Users by Displaying 5 To 10 Unskippable Ads in a Row

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  • by sconeu ( 64226 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:45PM (#62887503) Homepage Journal

    new ways to surface ads that enhance the viewer experience

    By definition, ADS DO NOT ENHANCE THE USER EXPERIENCE!!!! So don't even bother.

    • Ad blockers (Score:5, Funny)

      by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:51PM (#62887531) Journal

      By definition, ADS DO NOT ENHANCE THE USER EXPERIENCE

      True, but if you look at it from a different angle now ad-blockers enhance the user experience even more than they did before!

      • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

        I know, right?

        I had forgotten youtube has ads; I haven't seen one in ages. Thank you pi-hole!

        • Thank you non-ad blocker users for paying for my service with your attention! I think anyone tech savvy has an ad blocker installed.

          • by narcc ( 412956 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @03:12PM (#62887649) Journal

            I occasionally turn off the ad blocker and let it autoplay over night. I consider it a public service.

          • Yes but I watch most of the youtube on my tv where I can't block ads. Even site blocking on a router no longer works as the ads are served up directly from Youtube.

            Yesterday I was annoyed that I was getting 2 unskippable ads in a row. The 5 seconds until I skip is fine but that's too much now and I may just give up on big screen youtube.

            • Re: Ad blockers (Score:5, Informative)

              by Joce640k ( 829181 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @03:37PM (#62887757) Homepage

              Get a cheap/old laptop or mini-pc with HDMI output. Run youtube on that...

              • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                For Android devices there is Smart Tube. As well as being ad free it can skip over sponsor segments and other crap automatically.

                You can get an Android TV box very cheaply, if your TV doesn't have it.

        • by skam240 ( 789197 )

          To be fair I see them very infrequently and I dont use a blocker. Maybe it's the videos I watch but I havent observed what this article is saying at all in my own use.

    • Came here to say this, am leaving satisfied.

      No advert has ever enhanced any user's experience of anything.

    • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      Not entirely true.

      Advertisement can be a positive, if it's targeted to the demographic and contains relevant information, it can be assistive.

      For instance, I listen to podcasts - a lot of them. Probably 20-40 hours worth in a week, often at double speed. I have bought things from the ads on those podcasts on numerous occasions because I want to support the podcasters, but also because (primarily) I'm interested in the services they're selling.

      That's somewhat different than seeing the same fucking add for so

      • Advertisement can be a positive, if it's targeted to the demographic and contains relevant information, it can be assistive.

        It isn't positive if it comes up in a Youtube video I'm trying to watch. If I want to see an advert, like I'm looking for a new phone or tool, I will do a search myself for what the sales merchants have to offer. My search (and finding) will be sharply focussed on what I want. Anything that some marketing droid thinks I should want will be way off target in both the entity itself and their timing; it always was in the days before I learned how to block the crap totally.

    • The ads make the viewing experience POSSIBLE. So yes they enhance the viewing experience.

      If you don't want ads, you can pay directly for that privilege too.

      Or run a pi-hole
  • by riffraff9000 ( 10119568 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:48PM (#62887511)
    Still has ads, but not like this. Plus, it's not YouTube. Bonus!
  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:48PM (#62887513)

    At YouTube, we're focused on helping brands connect with audiences

    Over here, we're focused on not connecting to the brands. We don't give two shits about your stupid brands. We just want the content we clicked on.

    So, please stop? Pretty please?

    Love,
    The audiences.

    • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      There is some degree of advertisement I will tolerate, but it's got to meet certain criteria:

      * not be annoying
      * not repetitive (I think of the early days of Hulu advertisement here, where you'd see the same ad for every show, over and over...)
      * not interfere directly with my stream of consciousness (any add which interrupts video qualifies here)

      I'd tolerate ad overlays on videos, maybe brief ones every 20 minutes or so. But that's about it. Anything beyond that and I'm looking elsewhere for whatever I'm loo

    • Technically, we can connect solely to the YouTube brand for like $12 a month?

  • by Moryath ( 553296 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:49PM (#62887519)

    Youtube flinging that many ads before a video. RANDOMLY inserting mid-video ads every 2-3 minutes. Fuck that. They broke the product, I've got a fix for it.

    The worse they make the experience, the more people will do what I do. FAR more people will do what I do as opposed to giving them $25/month to remove the dozens of fucking ads they fling at me every 2-3 minutes.

    They need to dump all the fucking scam ads, they need to dump all the other crap cluttering up their system, and they need to make the experience worth it for the users. It's no surprise all my favorite channels have been trying to get viewers to move over to CuriosityStream or Nebula these days, and those ARE far better experiences.

    • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      Use pi-hole. I haven't seen a single youtube ad in ages.

      • Why that. uBlock Origin work well.
      • No kidding on the pi-hole. I run it in a vm on my home server and I see next to zip commercials, either on youtube or elsewhere.

      • by narcc ( 412956 )

        Yes. I'll add to that uBlock Origin. It works perfectly with FireFox on mobile.

      • It says it can be used with smart tvs, but the guides are highly obtuse, and that's even with knowing some networking. I've got a dd-wrt, and it would make sense for this to be built in there, instead of a separate device. The forums are baffling with how they're trying to get things set up.

      • I have pi-hole and set it as my DNS server for my televisions and I still see ads on Youtube, particularly the Subaru and Safelite glass, repeatedly! I will sit through the sponsored segments for the channels I do subscribe to, but the other ads are annoying.
          Is there a list I should be subscribing to specifically, I just use the default lists that are set up with the pi-hole.

  • by Xenographic ( 557057 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:50PM (#62887521) Journal

    They're not unskippable if you never see ads to begin with...

  • by nealric ( 3647765 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:51PM (#62887535)

    I hate paying $10/month for yet another service, but Youtube would be worthless to me if it didn't have a paid ad-free tier. After going a decade without watching broadcast TV, I have zero tolerance for commercials anymore.

    • I would also pay the monthly fee. After all, I'm using a service, I should pay for it. But I know that even in paying, Google is /still/ going to make me the product. So uBlock Origin it is.

      I'm lucky enough to like several (well, 10-12) creators that also stream on Nebula, so I pay for that service. I wish everybody I liked was over there but I can't have everything.

      • You get the added benefit of music.youtube with the payment. so it is no ads on youtube and their music service for the payment.

  • Adverts (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Joce640k ( 829181 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:51PM (#62887537) Homepage

    Youtube has adverts? I've never seen one.

    Maybe you could get a proper web browser...

    • by suss ( 158993 )

      You know it will eventually look like an Idiocracy TV.
      Good luck blocking that.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Look at grandpa over here with his full size computer

      • In the past .. (Score:5, Interesting)

        by burni2 ( 1643061 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @03:08PM (#62887619)

        .. Grandpa used to asked his grandkids how to do computer stuff,
        nowadays kids ask grandpa how to do computer stuff.

        O tempora, o mores

      • Full size computers still more capable than toy size computers - news at 11.
      • Look at grandpa over here with his full size computer

        Not sure what you have against grandpa over there, but I don't see adverts on my phone either. What are you doing wrong? Watching YouTube with the YouTube app? Who does that! It's f-ing horrible.

      • Well, grandpa has no time to look at you because he's busy watching the video while you're still waiting for the ad to finish.

    • Mine is as defective as yours, the ads don't seem to work.

    • Youtube has adverts? I've never seen one.

      Maybe you could get a proper web browser...

      Secret tracking and data mining, that's something that should be blocked.

      But ad blocking?

      One way or another YouTube is a business that needs to be paid for, either through ads or their ad-free "premium" service.

      I don't enjoy the ads, but I recognize the web as a business model only works when there's some kind of revenue.

    • Works great on my computer. However cant' get the roku to skip the ads. Even with a dd-wrt adblock in the past it only worked briefly until youtube figure out how to get through anyway.

  • Save YouTube videos to video files. Jump past ads.
    • by burni2 ( 1643061 )

      Do you have a suggestion for software youtube-dl gets bandwidth capped by youtube.

      • Make a list of videos you want to download, put them in a file, run youtube-dl with the --batch-file option and run it overnight. Zzzzzz...

    • by narcc ( 412956 )

      You should take a look through the comments. There are much better (simpler & faster) options.

  • This is why I pay for Argentinian YouTube Premium. Thanks VPNs!

  • Fuck this shit (Score:5, Interesting)

    by muh_freeze_peach ( 9622152 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @03:05PM (#62887601)
    I'm not using youtube ever again. Last night I was playing music on Youtube through my TV soundbar. Middle of a song, an ad started to play, not just any ad, A 15 MINUTE AD ABOUT THE NEW IPHONE. Gone. Uninstalled from the Roku. I can use youtube on my PC just fine because of blockers, but there isn't a solution that I am aware of for streaming on set-top devices/smart tvs.
      • Says it works for smart tvs and devices. But its guides are obtuse. Go to it's main home page and on that page it does not tell you what it does until step 4. Why wouldn't the main page just say "here is what pi-hole is and what it does"? Instead, the very first thing is "how to install". Might be nice to explain why you want to install it in the first place. Maybe it's oriented only to people who have prior knowledge of what it is? I had to go to its wiki page to get the basic overview.

        Probably beca

    • Yeah, that seems to be a thing with the "app" version of YouTube, based on my experience with my PS3. I once got served a 14 minute unskippable ad in Spanish, a language I don't speak. Every time I closed a video with that ad in front, every new video I opened up tried to make me watch the exact same ad from the beginning. It was the only ad YouTube kept giving me. The only way to get around it was... to wait until the next day.

      I never tried watching a video on any platform other than an adblocked PC ag

  • I remain un-irked (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PPH ( 736903 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @03:16PM (#62887657)

    I've got YouTube links diverted to youtube-dl/VLC player. Because Firefox sound through PulseAudio (PussAudio) is broken. And ALSA Just Works.

    A side effect of this is: no ads.

  • I use ad blockers, script blockers, and a VPN based domain level ad blocker. (I'm also thinking about adding a Pi-hole. https://pi-hole.net/ [pi-hole.net]) All this disables ads on YouTube, amongst other things. Whenever I have to surf the web without all these things, I'm shocked at how unusable the web has become.
  • I bought a family premium account, so never see those ads. However, almost every YouTuber puts a sponsor message in their content. It's annoying, but at least we can skip that easily.
  • Are trying to experimentally figure out the maximum tolerable threshold by selectively displaying different number of ads to different users?

  • And then you often have skip through baked in ads. “Let me tell you about this videos sponsor”.

    • I use SponsorBlock for that crap. It does a fine job of skipping past the baked in ads on pretty much every video Iâ(TM)ve watched. You can also skip the begging for likes and subscribes drivel with it I also have BlockTube which is nice for just eliminating trash channels from appearing in my feed, as well as all of YouTube Shorts. Itâ(TM)s made the YouTube experience more tolerable for me.

    • Some of them are okay where the content producer personally endorses the product. e.g. one creator is savvy enough to market products his viewers might find alluring - even if I would never buy boxes of brightly coloured cereal off the internet, it's entertaining enough.

      OTOH, the repetitive endorsements for geo-unblocking VPN products - I wouldn't trust any of these players to anonymously route my traffic without nefarious monetization.

  • I've never seen a single ad on youtube. Ever.

    How?
    1. Adblock Plus with a number of custom lists.
    2. Hosts-based blocking: https://someonewhocares.org/ho... [someonewhocares.org]
    3. Pi-hole as the default DNS resolver: https://pi-hole.net/ [pi-hole.net]

  • I suppose they also provide insight into how ad blocks are bought and sold. I'm thinking of how when I watch seriously disgruntled progressives like Jimmy Dore or Katie Halper, and there will be an ad from Chuck Schumer imploring us to donate to his PAC, or stable of reliable allies. The only possible way such ads could be funnier is if impressionist Mike MacRae was doing one of his characters, and had them doing the begging. :) #TheJimmyDoreShow Mike MacRae's Tour De Force Of Godfather Impressions http [youtube.com]
  • Ads have been a way of life since before the beginning of TV. Heck the first shows were basically product sponsored entertainment. 50 seconds of ads is still way better then the 7+ minutes you got in broadcast tv every 30 mins.
    • 50 seconds of ads is still way better then the 7+ minutes you got in broadcast tv every 30 mins.

      ...And if it was 50 seconds of ads before a 10-minute video, I'm fairly confident that most people would consider that a viable tradeoff.

      However, I've had ads that were five minutes long, as a preroll for a 4-minute video. There have been 30 minute ads, six 15-second ads that have interrupted youtube videos mid-sentence, and static ads that cover written lower-third instructions on tutorial videos.

      While most people do understand that there are bills to pay, the point being made here is that Youtube has gott

  • Only 3 options (Score:5, Informative)

    by srichard25 ( 221590 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @03:45PM (#62887785)

    There are only 3 ways that YouTube can exist:
    1. Collect and sell your personal data
    2. Show you ads
    3. Charge you directly for the service

    It seems like some people want the "free" service with no strings attached. Without one or more of those revenue streams, the service won't exist. So pick your poison.

    • There's a fourth option: All of the above. That's what cable TV did, after starting out with promises of ad-free TV in exchange for subscription fees.

  • and this was too much.

    Fun fact, VLC will play YouTube videos and doesn't seem to know how to display the adverts.
  • FWIW, Premium is totally worth it. I (of course) have ublock, etc., on my browser(s) but I watch youtube on a roku on my big tv sometimes. Ok, a lot. Yes, I had a HTPC for like a decade, but replaced it with a roku. I was tired of the constant fiddling to make it work the way I wanted, and while the roku sucks, it usually "just works". The youtube ads were really not a big deal until about a year ago, not long after "Youtube Premium" became available I think. So I cancelled spotify ($15/mo) and signed

  • by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Friday September 16, 2022 @09:55PM (#62888581) Homepage Journal

    I forgot that I've been blocking them.

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