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China Tops US To Take Research Crown At Global Chip Conference (nikkei.com) 30

Posted by BeauHD from the winners-and-losers dept.
"China has submitted the most research papers accepted at a prestigious international academic conference focused on semiconductors, underscoring the country's growing presence in the field and bumping the U.S. into second place (Warning: source paywalled; alternative source)," reports Nikkei Asia. The committee of the International Solid-State Circuits Conference (ISSCC) was held in South Korea on Nov. 16. From a report: According to the committee, a total of 629 research papers were submitted for next year's ISSCC, including 198 that passed the screening. The 198 include 59 from China, 42 from the United States and 32 from South Korea. China rose from third to first and South Korea's number decreased by nine compared to the previous one. "China increased its selected research paper count in every category and the Chinese government played an important role in this," one of the participants said [...].

The academic conference in the field of semiconductor integrated circuit design was first held in 1954. It is the largest and most renowned international conference in this field and next year's conference will start on Feb. 19 in San Francisco. More than 3,000 researchers from over 30 countries will attend it to share the latest technologies in the field.
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  • I mean, there are way more people in China than in the USA.
    • Plus, rampant IP theft does wonders for a nation's research "achievements".

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Yeah they are obviously stealing this and publishing it before the people that really invented could do it. How fucked up conspiracy tinfoil hat wearing do you need to be to believe that?

      • IP theft is not even the main issue, although it most likely happens quite often. The most important thing that is being ignored here is that a large portion of Chinese scientific publications are straight up fake (e.g., content-less pages of writing produced by paper-mills, or sometimes computer generated). "Number of scientific papers" is one of the worst possible measures to use.

        • Ok... this is fun... The US is no longer the greatest at something. Sure China caught up with dubious methods. Sure the regime there is questionable. Sure still lots of people live below poverty line...

          But they ARE making progress. More people jump over that poverty line. They are getting good at research...
          Meanwhile the US seems to be going in the other direction... Let it sink in. No worries, even if you are not the greatest, we still love you.

  • Who would have thought that having over 4 times the population means you output more content. WOW. /s

  • When hundreds of nonsense papers [theatlantic.com], including AI-generated ones [dailysceptic.org], make it into supposedly peer-reviewed journals and are actually cited in other papers, then publishing volume doesn't impress me much.

  • Quality vs Quantity (Score:5, Interesting)

    by niftydude ( 1745144 ) on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:19PM (#63062709)
    Most conferences I've seen are current accepting just about every submission they receive post-covid - a lot of people still aren't travelling which means less conference fees which means conference organisers are sad.

    My heart bleeds for those poor conference organisers of course.

    Quite surprising the story says about 400 papers were rejected. In the current environment, they must have been complete dross. Does anyone know which countries those 400 rejected papers came from? That would be more interesting to me.
  • What were those stories I'd been reading on Slashdot every few days - where the US Govt is using legal, patent and financial harassment against Chinese companies (and other non-American ones), to try to limit China's development of high-speed, high-throughput processors? How's that crippling of China's technological development going? Exactly as expected? Good.

    Coming soon : Chinese spacecraft-management software and hardware becomes the default for the 2023+ version of Elon's big white penis-replacement. O

    • The only way China becomes a world leader at any kind of technology is if they steal the blueprints for Item X, set up a factory, then flood the market with slightly cheaper product mass produced by slaves at a thousandth the cost.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by _merlin ( 160982 )

        Keep telling yourself that, like you did about Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          I fear it may already be too late for us. 5G should have been a wake up call, but it takes a long time to fix your education system and get companies to properly invest in R&D. Huawei is doubtless well into 6G research by now.

          Same with batteries to. We really need to step up our game if we want to catch up to what China is putting out. We have a chance while they are supply constrained, but it won't last long.

        • Please try to pay attention. Japan, Taiwan and Korea didn't prioritize outright theft the way China has.

          • Please try to pay attention. Japan, Taiwan and Korea didn't prioritize outright theft the way China has.

            While that's true, it says absolutely nothing about China's inherent ability - or lack thereof - to do what Japan, Taiwan, and Korea did. It merely points out that in addition to whatever native ability they have to innovate on their own, they're willing to steal in order to go farther and get their faster.

            Your assumption that China's penchant for IP theft is a sign of stupidity and incompetence, is a dangerous one. Never reflexively underestimate your opponent's strengths.

            • Your assumption that China's penchant for IP theft is a sign of stupidity and incompetence, is a dangerous one.

              It's also mind-bogglingly stupid, if you've ever worked in any fields where China is doing world-leading research. Their people know what to do "on the ground" and at the "lab-face". Their "dark efforts" are clearly running rings around other countries "cyber security" efforts. Misunderestimating your opponent is a piece of stupidity that paid shills like Miles_O'Toole (UID 5152533 - clearly a noob

  • That is what happens when one country is dominated by greed and the other one is on a mission with a purpose.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Which is which? And what is this purpose you speak of?

    • That is what happens when one country is dominated by greed and the other one is on a mission with a purpose.

      I'm surprised you were downmodded - you make a good point. I would change your argument a little bit though.

      I would say that both China and the US are motivated by both greed and purpose. But China's iron-fisted control over their citizens and their economy ensures that both their collective greed and their collective purpose are all pulling in more or less the same direction. On the other hand, the American forces of greed and purpose are disunited, and are often directed against each other rather than aga

  • I wonder for how long US-officials will continue to tell the fairy tale that technology embargos will keep China from building their own top notch technology.

    Don't get me wrong, I am all for keeping research and production "at home", not relying on numerous global sources in countries that can become openly hostile at any minute.

    But the embargo will do much less to keep China from advancing then their dictator Xi does with his stupid zero-Covid policy.

    Instead, the embargo will even encourage China to i

    • It will take 10-15 years at least for China to replicate the current state of the art in lithography systems, and by that time the Western manufacturers will still be 10-15 years ahead. Same goes for the chip design and simulation software.

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        • Westerners didn't start from scratch. They started with a long line of previous-generation lithography systems which China is also not able to replicate at present. I expect China will be able to steal a lot of chip-making IP, similar to thefts in many other areas, but still it will take many years even to reach the current state of the art.

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