The FBI's Most Controversial Surveillance Tool is Under Threat (arstechnica.com) 39
An existential fight over the US government's ability to spy on its own citizens is brewing in Congress. And as this fight unfolds, the Federal Bureau of Investigation's biggest foes on Capitol Hill are no longer reformers merely interested in reining in its authority. Many lawmakers, elevated to new heights of power by the recent election, are working to dramatically curtail the methods by which the FBI investigates crime. From a report: New details about the FBI's failures to comply with restrictions on the use of foreign intelligence for domestic crimes have emerged at a perilous time for the US intelligence community. Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), the so-called crown jewel of US intelligence, grants the government the ability to intercept the electronic communications of overseas targets who are unprotected by the Fourth Amendment. That authority is set to expire at the end of the year. But errors in the FBI's secondary use of the data -- the investigation of crimes on US soil -- are likely to inflame an already fierce debate over whether law enforcement agents can be trusted with such an invasive tool.
Central to this tension has been a routine audit by the Department of Justice's (DOJ) national security division and the office of the director of national intelligence (ODNI) -- America's "top spy" -- which unearthed new examples of the FBI failing to comply with rules limiting access to intelligence ostensibly gathered to protect US national security. Such "errors," they said, have occurred on a "large number" of occasions. A report on the audit, only recently declassified, found that in the first half of 2020, FBI personnel unlawfully searched raw FISA data on numerous occasions. In one incident, agents reportedly sought evidence of foreign influence linked to a US lawmaker. In another, an inappropriate search pertained to a local political party. In both cases, these "errors" were attributed to a "misunderstanding" of the law, the report says. At some point between December 2019 and May 2020, FBI personnel conducted searches of FISA data using "only the name of a US congressman," the report says, a query that investigators later found was "noncompliant" with legal procedures. Further reading: NSA Director Urges Congress To Renew Controversial Intelligence Authority.
Central to this tension has been a routine audit by the Department of Justice's (DOJ) national security division and the office of the director of national intelligence (ODNI) -- America's "top spy" -- which unearthed new examples of the FBI failing to comply with rules limiting access to intelligence ostensibly gathered to protect US national security. Such "errors," they said, have occurred on a "large number" of occasions. A report on the audit, only recently declassified, found that in the first half of 2020, FBI personnel unlawfully searched raw FISA data on numerous occasions. In one incident, agents reportedly sought evidence of foreign influence linked to a US lawmaker. In another, an inappropriate search pertained to a local political party. In both cases, these "errors" were attributed to a "misunderstanding" of the law, the report says. At some point between December 2019 and May 2020, FBI personnel conducted searches of FISA data using "only the name of a US congressman," the report says, a query that investigators later found was "noncompliant" with legal procedures. Further reading: NSA Director Urges Congress To Renew Controversial Intelligence Authority.
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> A report on the audit, only recently declassified, found that in the first half of 2020, FBI personnel unlawfully searched raw FISA data on numerous occasions.
> The Back the blue party suddenly does not like law enforcement.
I'm not sure you can read Archie.
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The back the blue party wants to see our laws enforced. Most cops are good cops trying their best work within the rules - at least at your local town PD, or county sheriffs office.. The DOJ and FBI on the other hand have proven over and over again they highly motivated by bias and they seem themselves as above the law. They don't see see us as their neighbors they are trying to protect, but rather potential terrorists hiding around every corner.
They are spooks who lack accountability and need some sunshine and enough new people at the top to change the culture.
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The back the blue party wants to see our laws enforced. .
Last time I checked, the Supreme law of the land was the Constitution. In it, the first amendment and the fourth/fifth amendments are pretty clear. After 9/11, which I witnessed with my own eyes and had family members who were first responders, they launched this to combat terrorism. Since then, it's been invoked many times for matters completely unrelated to terrorism as mentioned in the article. Since the days of J Edgar Hoover, the FBI has not hesitated to use whatever power/tools they are given and to exceed their authority whenever possible. They simply cannot be trusted to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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After 9/11, which I witnessed with my own eyes and had family members who were first responders, they launched this to combat terrorism.
False.
That was their excuse, though. Too bad you bought it, but thanks for telling us you bought it, so we know you're crackers.
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All the goodwill and popular support after 9/11 was lost on the Iraq War, which had nothing to do with 9/11 besides association by propaganda. Now, it's been 21+ years and we can look back and take stock. Bi
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The back the blue party wants to see our laws enforced. Most cops are good cops trying their best work within the rules - at least at your local town PD, or county sheriffs office.. The DOJ and FBI on the other hand have proven over and over again they highly motivated by bias and they seem themselves as above the law. They don't see see us as their neighbors they are trying to protect, but rather potential terrorists hiding around every corner.
They are spooks who lack accountability and need some sunshine and enough new people at the top to change the culture.
Only someone with something to hide, like a terrorist, would say that. Why do you hate your country? (Poe's Law: Yeah, I'm actually joking. It's sad that I have to say this so overtly!)
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The FBI, specifically, has been responsible for fostering if not all, then the majority of the mass shooting and terrorist events in this country. The Governor Witmer kidnapping is a perfect recent hallmark example, but dig deep enough and you see the suspicious "suspects" involved in everything from the Boston Marathon Bombing to the Murrah Building or 9/11. We could even mention their suspicious behavior leading up to and during the capital insurrection and the coordination of agitprop during the BLM riot
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The fact that Democrats have been rushing to protect the FBI at every turn in an 180 degree U-turn from Democrats of old tells you all you need to know about the FBI.
They would not be doing so unless they were obtaining direct assistance from the FBI. Perhaps as an example would be the failure to investigate and prosecute Hunter Biden's laptop. Which Hunter has now even claimed was his.
Note, this is a single example among many.
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The fact that Democrats have been rushing to protect the FBI at every turn in an 180 degree U-turn from Democrats of old tells you all you need to know about the FBI.
They would not be doing so unless they were obtaining direct assistance from the FBI. Perhaps as an example would be the failure to investigate and prosecute Hunter Biden's laptop. Which Hunter has now even claimed was his.
Note, this is a single example among many.
Can you cite some examples of old school democrats being anti FBI? I'm also curious as to what crimes Hunter's laptop has committed. The government has had the contents for (checks notes) three years now? I'm sure we'll hear indictments any day.
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Here is what 'back-the-blue' looks like without the rose-colored glasses.
A Republican governor praised police officers who SHOT PEOPLE IN THE HEAD with lead pellets, and says he will pardon them:
https://www.texastribune.org/2... [texastribune.org]
To repeat: in defiance of the law, their training, and simple human decency, they shot people IN THE HEAD, repeatedly, often at close range, causing significant brain injuries. Even bystanders:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/n... [texasmonthly.com]
https://www.texasmonthly.com/n... [texasmonthly.com]
One of the indicted offic
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I used to think my local PD was different. I grew up in big cities so the one I live in now seemed like a town when I moved here but it's a small city with low crime and no questionable police shootings - the few people they do shoot have been clearly armed and a threat.
The problem is 2 and a half years ago right-wing thugs came here from out of state ostensibly to hold a "Back the Blue" rally. The real reason was to cause violence and the cops let it happen. I wasn't there but I watched a few hours of vi
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Most cops are good cops trying their best work within the rules
The daily videos showing the contrary proves that to be a lie. The "good cops" are just as complicit if they do nothing against the bad cops.
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They don't like law enforcement that might target the Party (or white collar criminals more generally), so that's why they don't like the FBI.
The local law enforcement that's out there beating people to death, planting drugs on people they don't like, arresting pot smokers, etc - that's the blue they back.
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Name one.
The Democratic People's Republic of WHOOOSH
errors in the FBI's secondary use of the data (Score:1)
"Errors"... most amusing
Just don't touch COINTELPRO, they target the right people
Patriot Act is called the Patriot Act for a Reason (Score:2, Interesting)
It was Republican president George W Bush who said "you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists"
Considering that the Republican party led a charge against the government of the United States, I guess we know which side the Republicans have chosen now.
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The USA PATRIOT act is called that for a reason, and that reason is jingoism.
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It's called the Patriot Act for the same reason China is called "The People's Republic of China", and North Korea is called "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". It's psychological inversion (I made up the word). Politicians name their laws inversely to their benefit to the country's citizenry.
If the U.S. government were to name a law something like "Assured Systematic Subjugation Reassuring American Poverty Evermore Act", you could be reasonably certain we would all be getting a huge financial windfall.
Which party? (Score:2)
Looking at the article in question, the leaders of this "movement" seem to be equally democratic and republican, and it's NOT a "new thing".
But, people like to cry "it's the republicans!" if they think it's bad, and only say it's a good thing if a democrat leads the charge.
This seems to be a good thing, has been around for years, and both parties are on board. So, what's the problem?
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The problem is that if they reject FISA, that rejection will be blamed for the text terrorist attack or whatever, and we will be right back where we started. If they're going to really reign this in, they have to be smarter, or more aggressive than that.
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Right now, any FBI can go on their system, look up whatever they want, and use it to harass people they don't like. Look at Twitter, the accusations weren't even as bad as what was actually going on. Imagine the 702 abuses? There's nobody watching these watchers, they do anything they want. Which, since Trump got elected, is pushing a leftist agenda and steamrolling anyone who disagrees.
Wait, you really think the FBI is "pushing a leftist agenda"?
Please log in so I know who I'm laughing at.
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>"But, people like to cry "it's the republicans!" if they think it's bad, and only say it's a good thing if a democrat leads the charge."
It has been people in both parties. And the new push is strong by Republican Jordan:
"Jordan, who wields significant power now as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, signaled on Fox News before the start of the new Congress that a reauthorization bill before his committee might be dead on arrival."
Republicans like Paul have always been pushing to limit the FBI an
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Well, it was Republicans who were outraged that the FBI executed a search warrant at MAL. It was a Republican terrorist who attacked an FBI office after issuing a "call to arms" on Truth Social.
FBI attacker was prolific contributor to Trump’s Truth Social website [washingtonpost.com]
I'm also going by comments I see on Fox News. If they're simply trolls why would a supposedly "conservative" media outlet that professes to love America allow so much anti-American hate, blatant racism and even veiled threats?
Good ol' fashioned warrants (Score:5, Insightful)
Anything else is just trawling everyone's private information just in case they've done something that could possibly be illegal, which is a pretty effective way of selectively going after people you don't like &/or that you compete with.
What we accept is what becomes standard procedure. We need checks & balances in place & for them to be overseen & enforced. Doesn't matter which end of a political, social, racial, or financial spectrum you're on, we should all be equal, or at least as near as possible, under the law.
pop (Score:5, Funny)
Misunderstanding? (Score:3)
'In both cases, these "errors" were attributed to a "misunderstanding" of the law, the report says.'
Since when does that constitute a defence?
The only solution is for all these errors to result in payouts of over $1m to come out of the COLA payrise of FBI agents, with anyone who reports such an incident also gaining $1m. Oh - and loss of pensions...
Article from the last reauth (Score:3)
https://theintercept.com/2017/... [theintercept.com]
April 21 2017, 11:01 a.m.
In her first appearance representing the American public before the top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in 2015, Amy Jeffress argued that the FBI is violating the Fourth Amendment by giving agents “virtually unrestricted” access to data from one of the NSA’s largest surveillance programs, which includes an untold amount of communications involving innocent Americans.
The NSA harvests data from major Internet companies like Facebook, Google and Apple without a warrant, because it is ostensibly “targeting” only foreigners. But the surveillance program sweeps up a large number of Americans’ communications as well. Then vast amounts of data from the program, including the Americans’ communications, are entered into a master database that a Justice Department lawyer at the 2015 hearing described as the “FBI’s ‘Google’ of its lawfully acquired information.”
The FBI routinely searches this database during ordinary criminal investigations — which gives them access to Americans’ communications without a warrant.
Jeffress, a former federal prosecutor now serving as an independent “friend of the court,” expressed frustration over the casualness with which the FBI is allowed to look through the data. “There need be no connection to foreign intelligence or national security, and that is the purpose of the collection,” she told Thomas Hogan, then the chief judge of the court. “So they’re overstepping, really, the purpose for which the information is collected.”
The ACLU obtained the hearing transcript and other legal documents related to the secret court proceedings under the Freedom of Information Act, and released them to the public on Friday.
The FISA Court has been widely criticized for its secrecy, its extreme tendency to defer to the government, and the fact that until recently it only heard the government’s side of the case. In 2015, Congress passed a law establishing the position of “amicus curiae” to represent the interests of the public and civil liberties, and Jeffress is one of five amici now serving.
Jeffress, who is now a partner at the law firm Arnold and Porter, declined an interview request, citing the sensitivity of the FISA Court’s proceedings.
The NSA program in question, called PRISM, operates under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is scheduled to sunset in December unless it is reauthorized by Congress. What critics call the FBI’s “backdoor search loophole” is likely to be a major topic of debate in the coming months. Section 702 also authorizes a program called “Upstream,” which grabs massive amounts of data off major Internet backbones inside the U.S. without a warrant — again, because it is ostensibly “targeting” foreign communications.
The FBI’s backdoor searches are so controversial that the Republican-controlled House of Representatives passed measures in 2014 and 2015 requiring agents to get a warrant before conducting them, although the Senate refused to take up either proposal.
“Section 702 backdoor searches of Americans’ private communications are plainly unconstitutional, and the FBI’s warrantless searches are especially troubling,” said Ashley Gorski, a staff attorney with the ACLU.
The CIA and even the NSA itself have imposed a requirement that each query they run on 702 data involving a U.S. person be supported by a statement of facts that explains why the information being sought is relevant to foreign intelligence – as the independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board recommended in 2014.
But when Hogan asked if the FBI were willing to do
Discord (Score:2)