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Florida Bill Would Make Bloggers Who Write About Governor Register With State (arstechnica.com) 406

A proposed law in Florida would force bloggers who write about Gov. Ron DeSantis and other elected officials to register with a state office and file monthly reports or face fines of $25 per day. The bill was filed in the Florida Senate Tuesday by Senator Jason Brodeur, a Republican. From a report If enacted, the proposed law would likely be challenged in court on grounds that it violates First Amendment protections of freedom of speech and the press. Defending his bill, Brodeur said, "Paid bloggers are lobbyists who write instead of talk. They both are professional electioneers. If lobbyists have to register and report, why shouldn't paid bloggers?" according to the Florida Politics news website.

The bill text defines bloggers as people who write for websites or webpages that are "frequently updated with opinion, commentary, or business content." Websites run by newspapers or "similar publications" are excluded from the definition. The proposed registration requirements apply to bloggers who receive payment in exchange for writing about elected state officers, including "the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, a Cabinet officer, or any member of the Legislature." Bloggers who write about a member of the legislature would have to register with the state Office of Legislative Services, while bloggers who write about the governor or other members of the executive branch would have to register with the Commission on Ethics.

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Florida Bill Would Make Bloggers Who Write About Governor Register With State

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  • Gone batshit? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by aaarrrgggh ( 9205 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @03:23PM (#63339549)

    What is it with politicians wasting time with such stupid legislation?!

    • That's why we have a legal system separate from legislative or executive to curb such abuses.

      • That's why we have a legal system separate from legislative or executive to curb such abuses.

        (Rest of World) "Hey uh...just curious. How's that working out for you? Asking for a country..."

        • by lsllll ( 830002 )
          I'd say it usually works pretty well. Nothing is foolproof, but having the three branches of government separate from and responsible to each other has afforded us many benefits you don't see in many other countries.

          What I'm puzzled about is how our country is pretty much divides right down the middle. I mean, I know we have only the republican and democratic parties (not counting the green party because they may as well be non-existent), but countries are usually as a whole either conservative or libe
      • Trump packed the courts with incompetent political appointees. Amy Barret rather famously was so incompetent that she couldn't list the 5 freedoms granted by the 1st amendment (a high school civics question for ****'s sake). They will rule along party lines, not legal ones. Alito cited a Witchfinder General to overturn Roe v Wade (wrecking your privacy protections in the process)

        With 1/3 of our government compromised we either take back the other 2/3rds or we sink into a Chinese style totalitarian Klept
        • Stop being so damn partisan that you act like the supreme court is incapable of protecting freedoms because it finally leans a direction you don't like. One of the "conservatives" ruled to save the ACA for Pete's sake.

    • Re:Gone batshit? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by GameboyRMH ( 1153867 ) <gameboyrmh&gmail,com> on Friday March 03, 2023 @03:42PM (#63339613) Journal

      Culture war politics leads to runaway stupidity escalation like this. The only way to win is to be too smart to fall for/knowingly participate in culture war, which a majority of the Florida electorate is not.

      • Culture war politics.

        Lead by republicans.

    • Re: Gone batshit? (Score:2, Insightful)

      by WindBourne ( 631190 )
      GOP have to copy Xi and Putin, who are their heros.

      No doubt Lincoln would shoot these fuckers.
      • GOP have to copy Xi and Putin, who are their heros.

        I'm inclined to believe all the hate coming from them against TikTok is actually jealousy.

    • What is it with politicians wasting time with such stupid legislation?!

      "Paid bloggers are lobbyists who write instead of talk. They both are professional electioneers. If lobbyists have to register and report, why shouldn't paid bloggers?"

      Sometimes laws are drafted to point out the pointless stupidity of current law. Maybe we should see that here. Who exactly do "lobbyists" register and report to? It's fucking hilarious we have any rules governing the most corrupt concept in government. Not like they're doing anything to curtail or prevent abuse.

      Personally, I hope this law forces blogging and social media in general to be recognized as the bullshit-fueled wasteland it is instead of Government hypocrites treating fucking tweets like the go

      • by q4Fry ( 1322209 )

        Who exactly do "lobbyists" register and report to?

        This is not a particularly hard question to answer with your favorite search engine. Here are some [house.gov] examples. [senate.gov]

    • It gets them in the national spotlight by making the news.
      Their base loves it (you'd assume they'd be worried about how such a power could be abused the next time the other party is in power, but some people just don't think that far ahead).
      By the time it gets shot down in court as unconstitutional, the news has already moved on to something else.

    • It's the same tactic used by presidents with Executive actions that are clearly unconstitutional. Do the clearly unconstitutional thing then force people to challenge it. In some cases you can't ever challenge it because no one has "standing". The Florida POS law would see a lot of people with "Standing" though.

    • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:00PM (#63339683)
      this isn't me being a Democrat (I am though), it's just proven fact [house.gov]. The economy does better when Democrats are in charge.

      It's not hard to imagine why. The GOP went all in on trickle down and the 1%. They changed the name to "Job Creation" but it's the same argument. Give all the money to the 1% and it'll trickle down (e.g. "make jobs" or whatever).

      This doesn't work, and people know it, so the GOP needs another reason for you to vote for them. Hence all the moral panics. Woke, Critical Race Theory, heck there's been a few "Satanic Panics" lately. Beau Of The Fifth column just got done cracking a joke that the right wing would go after Hershey's for having too many pronouns (Her-She-ys, get it?) and a few weeks later Poe's law kicked in and actual right wing influencers got in a tizzy over it for real (or as real as anything gets around there).

      And let's not forget Joe Rogan telling his millions of listeners that there are littler boxes for furries in public schools with Zero fact checking until he's called out on it.

      This is what the GOP offers you in exchange for all your money and property. And for too many Americans they think it's worth it.
  • Bloggers who write about a member of the legislature would have to register with the state Office of Legislative Services, while bloggers who write about the governor or other members of the executive branch would have to register with the Commission on Ethics.

    According to a lot of boasting I've heard over the last two decades, a lot of people voting a certain way should be really really really opposed to this. Then again recent book-bannings didn't raise a fuss.

    • Between the book bans, the government control of school programs, and the Florida government punishing Disney for supporting non-cis-het. rights, and perhaps next requiring journalists to register with the government to speak about the governor, pretty soon DeSantis won't have any cover for the very specific freedoms of speech he's trying to support in clamping down on all this speech...

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      • That's because they're full of shit. Remember how Twitter removing a verified mark from someone who used it to harass an actress was eXtReMe cEnSoRsHiP because the harasser was none other than popular right wing activist and pedophilia advocate Milo Yiannopoulos?

        When Twitter was taken over by The World's Greatest Billionaire, Twitter kicked off journalists, critics, people who documented the behavior of the extreme right, and also fired employees who dared contradict obvious bullshit from his Muskiness on Twitter. Do you remember a single right winger of the kind who was infuriated by Yiannopoulos losing his verified mark criticizing Musk for any of these actions?

        No. Because it's never been about "freedom" or "censorship", it's about a political ideology that believes their "in group" should have special rights, and the everyone else shouldn't. And it's always been like that. Always. It's just the mainstream media went with the "Freedom!" narrative for... decades, maybe even 40 years or so, because they're too fucking scared of the right wing to tell the truth.

        Yes. Kind of sad that it took you until you for once ended up on the receiving end of the stick to notice that it *just might* be wrong.

    • War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.

      Somehow, I doubt even if the book was required reading that the average Floridian would make the connection. This state sucks.

  • You can stop reading after the word "Florida". Nothing else needs to be said.
  • Seems like it would be constitutional. But they want registration so they can track people, there is no reason the state should be tracking journalists on what they write.
  • by Corbets ( 169101 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @03:39PM (#63339605) Homepage

    I have no idea of the merits of this bill, or lack thereof, but the article and title were seemingly deliberately crafted to mislead. As you can see later in the summary, it applies to “paid” bloggers. Without having RTFA (this is Slashdot, after all) I would therefore it applies to people who are being paid to perform political hit jobs against a politician.

    That may or may not be 1A acceptable, but it’s a far cry from all bloggers.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I have no idea of the merits of this bill, or lack thereof, but the article and title were seemingly deliberately crafted to mislead. As you can see later in the summary, it applies to “paid” bloggers..

      Does getting page view advertisement revenue count as being paid? I suspect it would be interpreted as being paid by at least some judges in FL as such revenue is reported to the taxing agencies. So, now, many (if not all) bloggers are going to be considered paid.

    • by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:18PM (#63339777) Homepage

      That may or may not be 1A acceptable, but it’s a far cry from all bloggers.

      Please point out the part in the first amendment where it makes the distinction between for-profit speech and speech written of someone's own accord. I'll wait.

      Keep in mind the same people who are for this abuse of freedom would raise high holy hell when it's an issue of the second amendment being narrowly interpreted.

    • by jpatters ( 883 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:26PM (#63339833)

      Relevant text from the bill:

      (2) If a blogger posts to a blog about an elected state officer and receives, or will receive, compensation for that post, the blogger must register with the appropriate office, as identified in paragraph (1)(f), within 5 days after the first
      post by the blogger which mentions an elected state officer.

      (3)(a) Upon registering with the appropriate office, a blogger must file monthly reports on the 10th day following the end of each calendar month from the time a blog post is added to the blog, except that, if the 10th day following the end of a
      calendar month occurs on a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday, the report must be filed on the next day that is not a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday.

      (b) If the blogger does not have a blog post on a blog during a given month, the monthly report for that month does not need to be filed.

      Compensation is defined here:

      (1)(d) "Compensation" includes anything of value provided to a blogger in exchange for a blog post or series of blog posts. If not provided in currency, it must be the fair-market value of the item or service exchanged.

      This could even include receiving free hosting as that is something of value, but at the very least would include receiving any ad revenue even if it is just a few cents.

  • Yes, the GOP are bringing freedom to the world.
    • At this rate, the world will be free of humans by 2100. And I think the GOP likes that idea.

  • I am surprised. I went to middle school with Jason Brodeur and I remember him being one of the smartest in the class. I'm genuinely surprised he'd be foolish enough to think this would pass constitutional muster. Haven't even thought of the guy in ~35 years. So weird.

  • Clearly it violates the 1st amendment. But the 1st is not the target.

    What they want to break is the 14th. They want to undo the Civil War's peace treaty (the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments) in its entirety. So they want things to go to this biased court in order to declare the 14th never meant what we've thought it did for the last 150 years.

    • by gillbates ( 106458 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:25PM (#63339825) Homepage Journal

      There's a saying, "The pen is mightier than the sword..."

      So, it would follow logically that free speech is more dangerous than a firearm. Consequently, if you can require background checks for gun owners, and registering guns with the government, for the purpose of exercising a constitutional right, why not do the same to those who want to exercise their first amendment rights?

      If the "shall not be infringed" interpretation of the 2nd amendment was applied to the first:

      • You would have to register with the government and pass a background check before you could post online, and
      • You would have limits placed on the size of your audience and number of people you could reach - high capacity internet connections would be illegal for everyone except government.
      • You'd have to get a special permit to post anonymously (i.e., a concealed-poster permit), and,
      • You could only post opinions from a list approved by the government, and
      • If you dared create your own opinions, would have to register your opinions with the government and pay a $250 tax for opinions which, in the government's purview, were militant, and
      • You wouldn't be allowed to post some opinions (particularly a "military-style", or "revolutionary" opinion) at all, and
      • If you posted an opinion which offended someone, could be charged with a felony and fined and imprisoned, and prevented from ever posting an opinion publicly again, as well as lose your right to vote.

      While I may personally think the above list is ridiculous, the UK has actually arrested and prosecuted people for making postings which, in the government's view, are offensive. Last year, they arrested 3300 people for this; if you're interested in seeing how ridiculously pedantic the English can be, you can look up the cases of Chelsea Russell, Count Dankula, and the footballer charged for making a "nazi salute" because a photographer caught his hand in a rather unfortunate position whilst trying to get his mates' attention.

  • Find the Fascists (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jpatters ( 883 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @03:57PM (#63339661)

    You can find the fascists because they are the ones spouting apologia on this by saying it only effects "paid bloggers". This would be anyone who has ads on their blog. This is exactly what it looks like, it is a move to create a government list of enemies to be further harassed and/or rounded up once they have more thoroughly consolidated power.

  • Paid bloggers are lobbyists who write instead of talk

    Yep, good think those weirdos at Fox News and MSNBC work for free!

  • At what point do we find DeSantis guilty of treason and sedition for directly, knowingly, and willfully contravening the US constitution, kick his ass out of office, and once and for all have a court rule that shit like this is definitely unconstitutional (it is) and not permitted?

    I've never wanted someone to keel over fucking dead as much as I do Ron DeSantis on a daily basis.

    Make me register for saying that, you backwater Nazi cunts.
    • by tomhath ( 637240 )
      Well, for starters he would have to commit treason or sedition first. He has nothing to do with this "proposed" bill.
  • by AlanObject ( 3603453 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:19PM (#63339791)

    For those of you struggling to understand why this happens, it is because conservative politicians get rewarded for it.

    I don't know but I would bet the author has a pretty good understanding that there is no way that this would be upheld by even the Roberts/Thomas/Alito court even if it did make it into law, which is doubtful.

    But come campaign season there is credit to be had for owning the libs and sticking it to the "woke" crowd. And it comes at negligible cost compared to campaign ads.

    • I literally citing a 16th century witch finder general I would no longer count on that Court to do anything bordering on sane much less the right thing. Whatever else you think about roe v Wade it was built on over 150 years of case law regarding the constitutional right of privacy which they tore down on a moment's notice so they could get out of abortion. That is not what I would expect from a court ruling on law
  • While I believe this is a fringe lawmaker with weak ties to Ron DeSantis, it disturbs me greatly that Floridians would elect someone, with such a blatant disregard for the constitution, in the first place.
  • by tomhath ( 637240 )
    Nonsense post by someone who is fearmongering. Just because someone "proposed" a bill doesn't mean it has a snowflake's chance of being enacted.
  • by sir1963nz ( 4560389 ) on Friday March 03, 2023 @05:34PM (#63340189)
    Perhaps its time for the US people to realise they are NOT the greatest
    Certainly not for Democracy, not for freedom, not for freedom of the press.

    THEN its time to get rid of the R/D divide and vote for people who actually care about REAL freedom, not just their perverted view of it.

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