24 Central Banks Will Have Digital Currencies by 2030 (reuters.com) 44
Some two dozen central banks across emerging and advanced economies are expected to have digital currencies in circulation by the end of the decade, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) found in a survey published on Monday. From a report: Central banks around the globe have been studying and working on digital versions of their currencies for retail use to avoid leaving digital payments to the private sector amid an accelerating decline of cash. Some are also looking at wholesale versions for transactions between financial institutions.
Most of the new Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) will emerge in the retail space, where eleven central banks could join peers in the Bahamas, the Eastern Caribbean, Jamaica and Nigeria which already run live digital retail currencies, the BIS found in its survey of 86 central banks conducted late 2022. On the wholesale side, which in future could allow financial institutions to access new functionalities thanks to tokenisation, nine central banks could launch CBDCs, the BIS said. "Enhancing cross-border payments is among the key drivers of central banks' work on wholesale CBDCs," the authors of the report wrote.
Most of the new Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) will emerge in the retail space, where eleven central banks could join peers in the Bahamas, the Eastern Caribbean, Jamaica and Nigeria which already run live digital retail currencies, the BIS found in its survey of 86 central banks conducted late 2022. On the wholesale side, which in future could allow financial institutions to access new functionalities thanks to tokenisation, nine central banks could launch CBDCs, the BIS said. "Enhancing cross-border payments is among the key drivers of central banks' work on wholesale CBDCs," the authors of the report wrote.
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Aren't most transactions between banks purely digital already?
Yes, but this isn't really about the private banks.
Government wants the ability to turn dollars into dust on demand, regardless of cooperation from private banking institutions.
Re:What problem are we solving again? (Score:4, Insightful)
This is NOT a good thing for the general populace.
If implemented and taken to its inevitable end....it will spell the end of freedom for American citizens.
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the fact that you think american citizens are free now is hilarious.
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Sure, it sucks here...but it sucks a whole lot less than everywhere else in the world.
Why do you think we have so many people trying to come here?
Re:What problem are we solving again? (Score:5, Insightful)
The main reason that motivates people moving is not "because it's free". The main reason is 1) life is so bad where they are that they rather die than stay longer where they are, 2) they have heard the name of some country, it's at peace and everybody says you can make good money there, 3) they have family or acquaintances there that can help them through their first months, or 4) at a minimum, they can speak the language of it.
For what I know in my part of the world: some migrants risk their lives to reach Spain or Italy, while others want to continue to France, and some reach France and risk their lives one more time to cross to UK, and finally some only go to UK because from there they can reach Ireland. Their rationale is not based on which one is "more free". The reasons for Africans from Mali to settle in France, and Africans from Nigeria to feel the need to continue from France to UK are the strong historical, linguistic, and family ties.
Many of these want to go to USA because it's the nominal emigration destination in their place, due to family/history or, at least, cultural influence (movies and hearing of it in the news), like some others from other parts in the world have chosen UK or Germany or whatever as their nominal emigration destination, and won't desist until they reach this particular one.
Assuming you live in USA, if for any reason you suddenly had to leave, what comes to your mind as a destination? Maybe Canada, or New Zealand? Everybody has some basic assumptions like that. I bet you did not spontaneously come up with Uruguay or Luxembourg or Iceland, which nonetheless are quite rich places on their continent, and comparable or higher than USA in both "Democracy Index" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] and "Freedom of the Press report" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] (Uruguay is slightly lower than USA in the Freedom of the Press, I count it as "comparable"; other 2 countries are higher than USA in both these indices). These places are not culturally influential and just do not come to mind (at least not in their top 5) to people who live far away from them.
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Assuming you live in USA, if for any reason you suddenly had to leave, what comes to your mind as a destination Nothing springs to mind because I like the climate here. Canada and New Zealand would be off the table for that alone.
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I cannot think of another country I'd like to live in....everywhere else is too restrictive on speech and they would take my plethora of guns from me to start with....
Those two reasons alone are game stoppers right there.
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What are your AR-15s gonna to do against drones, F-22s, and fucking tanks?
The gov can have my non existent guns.
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it will spell the end of freedom for American citizens.
We Americans keep giving up freedoms when y'all keep electing the same fucking idiots into office. We are already down this path. I doubt anyone will change.
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Till it is gone...there is always hope.
We've seen the damage by the current group of "fucking idiots" in charge so far...let's hope we can replace them with someone that is at least a bit less of an idiot.
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I'd take DeSantis in a heartbeat on that choice....
I'm afraid it will be Biden vs Trump....ugh.
Re: What problem are we solving again? (Score:2)
If seashells can count as money, why not dust?
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Seashells are not limited in distribution. I could start a seashell farm and make trillions of new ones, devaluing all in existence. Most cryptocurrencies have artificially imposed scarcity, and the Fed has some hand wavyness about scarcity. (Fed: "We'll only pump it as much as our cronies tell us to!")
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It's a delay problem. Thanks to legacy standards, yes they are digital, but they are slow AF. Instead of fixing the broken system, we'd rather patch "blockchain" on there and sell it. Will the average consumer get free autonomy to move their money around the world without any restriction over it? Ahahahah. Oh wait, you thought these CBDCs were for you and not just the elite banking class to play their game even faster? Ahahahaha.
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The problem being solved is the US Dollar Hegemony.
When people and companies in these countries can do cross border trade using local currencies without having to use USD (hence no longer reliant on SWIFT), that takes away some of the ability of the US to monitor and sanction them.
The era of physical money is over! (Score:3)
Yay! My net worth is a database entry somewhere. All I have to do to withdraw it is prove my identity, which is also a database entry and collection of facts stored somewhere. Thank God it can't be changed by anyone and my right to it cannot be denied arbitrarily.
It can't be, right?
It's ok. (Score:2)
"Physical" money ended with appearance of book keeping and the invention of concepts of loan and debt.
"Digital" just means that it's all written on a computer somewhere, like it already is, but now with an individual serial number for every unit of currency. Like paper currency.
I.e. All money will be trackable and traceable.
Making sales of illegal items rather obvious - unless the seller figures out a way to sell you an imaginary property along with the real item.
Say, you get a live performance of a song wi
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Making sales of illegal items rather obvious
Only the dumb would list illegal drugs as the line item. They would change that to a shirt or something.
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My net worth is a database entry somewhere.
If your money is in a bank, then your net worth is already a database entry that is already subject to any fear you could list here. A cash-only standard of living has been impractical for a long time already. It's even largely impractical among friends and family.
The cash society has all but disappeared already. There are some drawbacks, but they are profoundly outweighed by the benefits
I don't see the point (Score:1)
I'm assuming we are talking about a central-bank "digital currency" that has the same value as the national currency (one US "digital dollar" = a $1 Federal Reserve Note = 4 quarters from the US mint).
If the digital currency were at least as untraceable as paper currency, I could see the value over paper money (spoiler alert: Bitcoin etc. is easier to trace after-the-fact than an individual piece of paper currency).
If the digital currency were more efficient than existing electronic payment systems, then th
Re:I don't see the point (Score:4, Insightful)
If the digital currency were at least as untraceable as paper currency, I could see the value over paper money
Can't see any reason to think that digital currency would be untraceable.
...If the digital currency has other advantages over other payment systems, then there may also be a use case, but again, not as a replacement for physical currency.
These days I use my credit card for almost all my transactions; hardly ever use actual cash. But the credit card companies take 2.5% of every transaction. Cash, on the other hand, does not have that 2.5% tax.
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"Cash, on the other hand, does not have that 2.5% tax."
Cash does not have that 'tax' directly charged to you. However, handling physical money costs money.
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"as untraceable as paper currency"
Every paper bill has a serial number.
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The serial # is why I said "as untraceable as" rather than "untraceable like."
It's nearly impossible to do a full trace on a piece of currency unless you are able to grab the serial number every time it changes hands.
With a public ledger, you pretty much ARE able to trace every transaction that hits the ledger (there are work-arounds to protect privacy, such as trading physical "cold wallets," but they are usually more trouble than they are worth).
With the current state of things, currency is harder to trac
Visa & Mastercard duopoly (Score:5, Interesting)
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Correct. Either we have our governments create and manage digital currencies, or Visa and Mastercard will become the gatekeepers for all the developed world's finances. The former is much preferable to the latter.
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The last time I've seen the government make any kind of useful standard would have been decades ago. Governments buy solutions from companies. If there is a company selling CBDC products, isn't that a huge risk if the code is not incredibly well audited? (And somehow tested, with millions of dollars, lol.)
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Are you assuming that consumers will have access to the CBDC system and it won't just be between banks? Unlikely, because then you'd be able to freely move your money, and what incentive would you have to store it at a bank?
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Federal and state Laws are needed (Score:3)
To ensure they are not acting like a cartel to make using CBDCs compulsory and to protect the privacy of transactions.
This Isn't About Convenience, It's About Control! (Score:3, Insightful)
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