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NOAA Confirms June Was Earth's Hottest on Record (nytimes.com) 139

Last month was the planet's warmest June since global temperature record-keeping began in 1850, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in its monthly climate update on Thursday. From a report: The agency also predicts unusually hot temperatures will occur in most of the United States, almost everywhere except the northern Great Plains, during August. The first two weeks of July were also likely the Earth's warmest on human record, for any time of year, according to the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Many daily temperature records were set in June across the Southern United States, particularly in Texas and Louisiana. Temperatures in Laredo, Texas, reached 100 degrees on more than 20 days in June. Austin, El Paso and San Antonio reached triple digits on more than 10 days each. The heat index, which also accounts for humidity, was well past 100 much of the time in all of these cities. Extreme heat can be dangerous for anyone's body, but older people and outdoor workers are at particular risk. Summer heat waves in Europe last year may have killed 61,000 people across the continent, according to a recent study. This year's heat and humidity have been devastating in northern Mexico, where more than 100 people have died of heat-related causes, according to reports from the federal health ministry.

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NOAA Confirms June Was Earth's Hottest on Record

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  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Friday July 21, 2023 @11:08AM (#63704740)

    They're not cooperating and storing all the excess heat we're trapping with all the greenhouse gasses we spew into the atmosphere.

    Stupid oceans, forcing us to experience some of the initial consequences of our actions.

    • You jest of course, the truth is that if the oceans weren't taking a large degree of the excess heat then most of the planet would have become uninhabitable already, temperature rises would have been in the tens of degrees.

      • I don't believe that's how it works - greenhouse gasses increase the insulation effect of the atmosphere, but they're maintaining a heat differential. Radiative heat losses still apply, we just hold on to more heat for longer before those losses.

        I believe that this means the oceans can only change the rate of temperature rise by acting like a buffer. Without them the rise would be much more rapid, but the new normal would be no higher. We'd probably have larger day/night swings too.

        • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 )

          Water has huge heat capacity and the oceans covering 2/3rds of the planet are large. The oceans have simply soaked up much of the excess heat energy due to global warming, this isn'y my theory, this is the way scientists say it happens and the physics is simple, 1 degree of warmer ocean is the equivalent of tens of degrees of heated atmosphere in terms of energy capacity of air and water. It's basic physics.

          • But if those tens of degrees were in the air, they would radiate out into space more rapidly. The equilibrium point remains the same.

            It is because of the oceans we are not in equilibrium yet, but we're still only heading for 1-digit increases even once the oceans are done heating up (if we somehow stop increasing the amount of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere).

    • Ahhh yes, back in the good old days when "Global Warming was over!"

      Damn it Ocean, you were supposed to have covered up our criminally stupid manipulation of statistics forever!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

  • And yet (Score:5, Insightful)

    by xack ( 5304745 ) on Friday July 21, 2023 @11:13AM (#63704760)
    We'd rather make short term money destroying the planet rather than long term from saving it. No amount of orange paint or angry protestors will stop greed though.
    • we'd need to make massive changes to how we live. Not the *quality* of our lives, but organizational things.

      Cities need to be made walkable. Oil & gas need to be made into near worthless commodities only occasionally used for power generation. Public transportation needs to replace private cars. Electric cars, even self driving, won't solve our problems. We need to stop thinking of ourselves as "American" and "Chinese" and "Russian" so we can function as global citizens and work together not just ac
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Lennie ( 16154 )

        Pretty simple really, stop funding the fossil fuel industry with subsidies, etc.

        And invest that same money in transition.

        This is the supposedly the same amount as would be needed to do the transition.

      • by NotInKansas ( 5367383 ) on Friday July 21, 2023 @12:30PM (#63705020)
        "... Electric cars, even self driving, won't solve our problems. ..."

        You need to stop thinking in terms of an absolute magic bullet. Better is a step in the right direction. There are many other better steps that can/should/are being taken. Rejecting better while waiting for perfect is a fool's agenda.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by cayenne8 ( 626475 )

        we'd need to make massive changes to how we live. Not the *quality* of our lives, but organizational things. Cities need to be made walkable. Oil & gas need to be made into near worthless commodities only occasionally used for power generation. Public transportation needs to replace private cars. Electric cars, even self driving, won't solve our problems. We need to stop thinking of ourselves as "American" and "Chinese" and "Russian" so we can function as global citizens and work together not just acro

        • Not really (Score:1, Troll)

          by rsilvergun ( 571051 )
          the quality would be the same or better (except for the top 1 or 2% maybe). Walkable cities and public transport mean not spending hours in commute. It means better access to schools and clean drinking water. It means access to the amenities of a city without spending 90 minutes driving and/or parking.

          Now, there is one thing I don't know how to solve for: Teenagers fucking. Right now teenagers can get in their dad's car, drive out to the middle of nowhere, and fuck like rabbits. It's harder to do that o
          • by Chas ( 5144 )

            the quality would be the same or better (except for the top 1 or 2% maybe). Walkable cities and public transport mean not spending hours in commute. It means better access to schools and clean drinking water. It means access to the amenities of a city without spending 90 minutes driving and/or parking.

            No, it means spending hours walking/biking and having to live within a specific distance from your place of business.

            That shit simply doesn't fly in the US. And hasn't since before WW1.

        • by q_e_t ( 5104099 )
          Eh? He said making cities walkable, not everyone becoming urban. Reducing the need for things like fossil-fueled vehicles in urban areas is not the same as making everyone live in urban areas any more than having better quality coffee in coffee shops means that everyone has to drink coffee.
    • Tragedy of the commons.
    • It isn't just corporate greed.

      The livestock industry contributes more to the greenshouse effect than transportation.

      Post an article about that, you will get hostile replies, snark, and jokes.

      The hottest day reports nobody likes to get are about corporate greed AND the personal failures of many people to make even small adjustments to the way they live.

      Queue the real life copies of the comic book store owner from the Simpsons to lecture us why he is top of the food chain, and smugly should not even b

  • remember we've only been recording temps back ~200 years. earth has been way hotter at many times in the past 5 billion years
    • by stwrtpj ( 518864 )

      remember we've only been recording temps back ~200 years. earth has been way hotter at many times in the past 5 billion years

      Yes, indeed, it has been hotter. At one time, the entire planet was believed to be covered in rain forest.

      The issue is not how hot the planet is, the issue is how fast is it getting there. Someone already posted this link, but it's very relevant:

      https://xkcd.com/1732 [xkcd.com]

      Note how slowly the planet's temperature has changed over time. Now look at the bottom of the chart and see how it has skyrocketed in comparison. Your claim that we don't have records going back further than 200 years is wrong. We have other m

      • The biggest problem is that going back, we canâ(TM)t measure the temperature day by day or even year by year. Weâ(TM)re taking an average of many years deposited in trees over decades, or the average over millennia when weâ(TM)re talking geological evidence. Comparing todayâ(TM)s weather with the average climate thousands of years ago is statistically disingenuous, making policy decisions and recommendations on that is even worse and doesnâ(TM)t help at all with the cause of conserv

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      earth has been way hotter at many times in the past 5 billion years

      Well the earth used to be a molten ball. It's pretty important for our survival that it doesn't get hotter again, and humans have been doing dumb shit that makes it hotter and hotter.

    • by q_e_t ( 5104099 )

      remember we've only been recording temps back ~200 years. earth has been way hotter at many times in the past 5 billion years

      It's also been colder (snowball earth). Neither facts are particularly relevant to right now, though.

    • True, true. Especially during the Hadean.

      Then again, no humans tried to live on that planet back then, but if that's not a requirement, you're absolutely right.

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      remember we've only been recording temps back ~200 years. earth has been way hotter at many times in the past 5 billion years

      Apparently you don't see the irony in what you wrote. It kind of reminds me of the Slashdotter years ago who posted that the government should stop funding weather satellites and buy satellite weather data from Accuweather.

    • earth has been way hotter at many times in the past 5 billion years

      Just curious, how do you know?

  • useful graphs (Score:4, Insightful)

    by PinkyGigglebrain ( 730753 ) on Friday July 21, 2023 @01:09PM (#63705112)
  • Water is a greenhouse gas in the stratosphere, the tonga volcano contributed alot of water to the stratosphere. So we'll bake for a while until it comes back to normal.

    https://eos.org/articles/tonga-eruption-may-temporarily-push-earth-closer-to-1-5c-of-warming
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere
  • One would have thought boiling rivers and what not would have made the news.
  • And looked up every July 18th from 1980 to 2023.

    Did you know that for all of the 80s, it was basically 5 degrees cooler during the at night and more during the day in Houston, Texas?

    It's gone from 75/88F (82 mean) to 80/98F (86 mean) in the 2020s.

    I am *not* looking forward to August. We might see 105 to 108.

  • Are you embracing nuclear power? If yes, we can have a conversation. If not please go back to the quiet corner until you have educated yourself.

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