Facebook and Instagram's News Blackout In Canada Starts Today (engadget.com) 81
Starting today, Facebook and Instagram users in Canada will no longer be able to view or share news links or see videos and photos published by publishers and broadcasters. Engadget reports: Meta made the decision in response to Canadian legislators passing the Online News Act. The law requires certain platforms to negotiate revenue-sharing agreements with news organizations. The aim is to address the collapse in advertising revenue that news outlets have struggled with over the last two decades amid the growth of online services.
"News links and content posted by news publishers and broadcasters in Canada will no longer be viewable by people in Canada," Meta said. "We are identifying news outlets based on legislative definitions and guidance from the Online News Act." Any content shared by international news organizations won't be visible on Facebook and Instagram in Canada either.
"News links and content posted by news publishers and broadcasters in Canada will no longer be viewable by people in Canada," Meta said. "We are identifying news outlets based on legislative definitions and guidance from the Online News Act." Any content shared by international news organizations won't be visible on Facebook and Instagram in Canada either.
I willingly share the news to Canadians ... (Score:2)
that I have laid in many boxes of pop corn to see how this pans out.
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Re: I willingly share the news to Canadians ... (Score:2)
They insist on not being carried if they are not paid. There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving them what they have asked for. If their articles are so worthless that all people want from them is a headline and a synopsis then nothing will be lost when they fail.
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Aren't you on the wrong side of this issue ?
The leftist position on this in Canada is "Evil meta! Evil Google! They steal our media's content!", not "Oh look, what everyone with a clue knew would happen, happened".
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Conspiracy? No. I just made the wrong assumption on what it was about.
I don't see conspiracy everywhere I look because I am well adjusted. I only see it where it actually is. This is just two greed-lords fighting over payment.
The way people use that word these days, like a bunch of old hens digging for something to gossip about while they sip crappy ass water noshing crumpets. Get a real hobby.
All we need: (Score:5, Informative)
This is everything we need:
- Foxish Live RSS [google.com] - Live toolbar bookmarks with RSS feeds like the old Firefox had
And the feeds to go with it:
- http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/world... [rss.cbc.ca] - CBC World News RSS feed
- http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/canad... [rss.cbc.ca] - CBC Canadian News RSS feed
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/news... [bbc.co.uk] - BBC World News RSS feed
- http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_lat... [cnn.com] - CNN Latest News RSS feed
- https://abcnews.go.com/abcnews... [go.com] - ABC News Top Stories RSS feed
Anyone who goes to social media for news deserves what they get.
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This is everything we need:
- Foxish Live RSS [google.com] - Live toolbar bookmarks with RSS feeds like the old Firefox had
And the feeds to go with it:
- http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/world... [rss.cbc.ca] - CBC World News RSS feed
- http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/canad... [rss.cbc.ca] - CBC Canadian News RSS feed
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/news... [bbc.co.uk] - BBC World News RSS feed
- http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_lat... [cnn.com] - CNN Latest News RSS feed
- https://abcnews.go.com/abcnews... [go.com] - ABC News Top Stories RSS feed
Anyone who goes to social media for news deserves what they get.
But how will I know to be angry about (_)Muslims/(_)Gays/(_)Trans/(_)Immigrants/(_)other races/(_)Leftists/(_)Muslims/(_)Women/(_)Gangs/(_)Princess Dianna Haters if there isn't some Daily Mail reading blowhard shouting about how it's destroying the country on Twitter?
first nail in FB coffin (Score:4, Interesting)
Please keep removing features from FB.
Side question: If you could greatly help the world by killing yourself would you do it?
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Side question: If you could greatly help the world by killing yourself would you do it?
Take a go at it and let us know.
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I don't have anywhere close to the impact of Zuck on the world. You wouldn't even notice if I was missing, nothing would improve in my absence.
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Hence the strange complexion and the empty soulless stare...
Re:first nail in FB coffin (Score:5, Interesting)
Facebook are killing themselves, regardless.
I log in occasionally to check what family and friends are up to.
But what's up with that Suggested Post nonsense? No, Zuck, I don't want to see stories of random idjiots doing random idjiot things. I am way too old to be influenced by "Influencers" - that stuff is annoying.
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> I am way too old to be influenced
That says a lot about FB right there. FB will fade with GenX or sooner.
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You can select to show only from follows in both apps.
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Yeah... I've been fairly resistant to the anti-Facebook sentiment over the last several years. At one point, I had the algorithm trained pretty well to show me minimal politics. So it stayed... particularly during COVID... a handy tool for keeping up with friends I hadn't seen in person in a while. It was also a very good tool for organizing group events and activities... until people started leaving in droves after the republicans weaponized it anyway. The trick was, basically, to just keep using it l
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Please keep removing features from FB.
No wonder they call themselves "Meta" - it's short for "Metastasize".
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By doing this it's more likely to hurt the news organizations which I imagine is Facebook's goal. They need Facebook. Facebook doesn't need them at all. They're just hurting themselves and are too stupid to figure out how to generate revenue for decades now.
This is Facebook "negotiating," I wouldn't count on this being a permanent lockout. Just like in Australia the news orgs will start negotiating microcents per view so they can start getting traffic from Facebook users again.
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By doing this it's more likely to hurt the news organizations which I imagine is Facebook's goal. They need Facebook. Facebook doesn't need them at all. They're just hurting themselves and are too stupid to figure out how to generate revenue for decades now.
This is Facebook "negotiating," I wouldn't count on this being a permanent lockout. Just like in Australia the news orgs will start negotiating microcents per view so they can start getting traffic from Facebook users again.
Facebook and Google, the gatekeepers to all news and final arbiters on what news you do and do not get to see. I wonder, how could that possibly end badly?
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Do these news organizations not have websites? RSS feeds? Email updates for users with accounts?
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My guess is your average netizen doesn't realize there is more then one search engine and the only websites they know of seem to be Facebook and Twitter.
I definitely think trying to get money out of Google and Facebook for news linking is more likely to hurt these news sites then to help. People will become even LESS informed unless they actively seek out the news. The people that actively seek out the news already know about the websites themselves where as everyone else doesn't care enough to go looking f
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That's the entire purpose of the Internet. To share information and ideas. It doesn't have a lot of respect for "ip" and most certainly isn't coded into html.
Confused. (Score:2)
Any content shared by international news organizations won't be visible on Facebook and Instagram in Canada either.
Are they referring here to content originating from Canadian news organizations that are being shared by international organizations or all news from international sources (whatever that means)? If they're blocking all news from Canadians, I have to ask why? Doesn't the law in Canada apply only to content produced by Canadian news organizations? Why would Facebook block links to The New York Times for instance? Or am I misunderstanding what they're doing. I've seen several arti
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their press release is pretty clear:
For international news outlets this means:
News publishers and broadcasters outside of Canada will continue to be able to post news links and content, however, that content will not be viewable by people in Canada.
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The only way we can reasonably comply with this legislation is to end news availability for people in Canada.
which actually makes a lot of sense, particularly because:
the people using our platforms don’t come to us for news.
meaning they couldn't care less about this ill conceived state sponsored greed over content that isn't even relevant for them. let's see if this drives subscriptions to canadian news organizations up. i'm afraid it won't and they just shot themselves in the foot. popcorn, please.
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i'm not versed in legalese, but the act in question is named:
"An Act respecting online communications platforms that make news content available to persons in Canada"
https://www.parl.ca/DocumentVi... [www.parl.ca]
so i would assume that it affects any news content made available in canada, regardless of origin. yep, contrived.
Re: Confused. (Score:1)
Either through stupidity or malice, laws often are named opposite to their effects.
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They won't be able to view News on Facebook because Facebook isn't responsible for providing Canadians News. It's Facebook punishing the country for trying to fleece them for money.
The smarter Canadians that want to be informed will in fact just go to the news sites themselves. The rest won't be seeing any news.
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Good. They should cut off any country that tries this shit. Otherwise there will be no end to the news scammers coming to them with hands out for $$$.
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the people using our platforms don’t come to us for news.
meaning they couldn't care less about this ill conceived state sponsored greed over content that isn't even relevant for them. let's see if this drives subscriptions to canadian news organizations up. i'm afraid it won't and they just shot themselves in the foot. popcorn, please.
If people don't come to FB for news then why were people posting it?
I think this is probably a good thing in the sense that social media + news has generally been bad. All the editors want "viral" content, and an easy way to do that is to rile up the reader. And sharing news articles is part of how people start building their echo chamber.
I think it's probably a bad thing in the sense that news really needs money to actually keep reporting, and I'm concerned that the people who would have shared dubious new
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I don't know anyone who is "reading news" on facebook.
It is much simpler to go to the relevant news site.
I think every odd year once I get a post from a new site into my feed, and I click "hide".
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If people don't come to FB for news then why were people posting it?
to get attention, like most of what people post on social networks. however, news aren't probably the best type of content to achieve that, fb knows that very well, and it seems most of the times it's the actual news outlets posting news on fb to attract users to their sites, e.g.: https://www.facebook.com/searc... [facebook.com]
which is why all this lobbying was so stupid from the get go. they had a better case with "google news" as that is actually a news aggregation done by google itself. but it was greedy and shortsig
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Re: Confused. (Score:2)
Most news REALLY isn't reporting in any useful way. Nearly every article in most papers and on most sites comes from another source, usually Reuters or AP. And I can just go to their sites directly if I want to read those stories. Take for example the paper in Santa Cruz (please.) It's called the sentinel, but even before the Internet we called it the senile. They are incompetent in literally every way. Their articles are unabashed blowjobs for the elite, and they literally can't even get the front page col
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One of the reasons there isn't local news anymore is there isn't any money in it.
If Social Media was to work in a healthy way it would be for people to connect with their local communities, and local news would be a great aspect of that.
I don't know the path to get there, but this isn't it.
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I agree ...and I am Canadian.
This just proves to me that the government does not understand the internet.
Companies like Facebook and Google have been helping Canadian news companies by driving traffic to the news sites. They don't even charge news orgs for the service!
But then someone comes along and says, "hey, Google and Facebook have lots of money. We want some of that. You should keep referring people to us AND pay us for the privilege!"
Government is SHOCKED when G/F say "No thanks, news isn't our core
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Oh but didn't you hear? Twitter is dying!
If I say that enough times, it might actually come true. Any day now.
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Oh no! How will they ever survive without you?
And nothing of value was lost... (Score:1)
You are missing absolutely zero. If FB doesn't have news, the CBC is far better quality than anything south of the border. There are also international places like the Beeb which cover news effectively.
Consider yourself blessed, Canada.
Great! (Score:2)
The bill is stupid but if it gives Canadians another reason to stop using fuckerbook I'll grin and bear it.
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Instagram? (Score:2)
There's news on Instagram? First I've heard of it.
Who cares :-) (Score:2)
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I don't need Facebook (Score:1)
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They may block links to news sites, but I don't see a way they could prevent folks from mentioning stories that could then be looked up at a news site.
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I will finally be responding to FB ads (Score:2)
Well done, Meta! You've finally pushed me to respond to Facebook ads. Every time I see a Canadian company advertising on Facebook, I will politely tell them that if I see any more FB ads from them, I will boycott the company.
The Canadian government has already pulled ads from Meta. Now the rest of us have to step up.
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I'm retired, so I have time.
And... (Score:1)
Nothing of any real value was lost.
Is it affecting US too? (Score:2)
Please Block My News (Score:2)
Good news! (Score:2)
Finally, some good news for Canadians!