Can Philanthropy Save Local Newspapers? (washingtonpost.com) 122
70 million Americans live in a county without a newspaper, according to a 2022 report cited in this editorial by the Washington Post's editorial board"
Who's to blame? The internet, mostly. Whereas deep-pocketed advertisers formerly relied on newspapers to reach their customers, they took to the audience-targeting capabilities of Facebook or Google. Web-based marketplaces also siphoned newspapers' once-robust revenue from classified ads.
But the Post emphasizes one positive new development: "a large pile of cash." In an initiative announced this month, 22 donor organizations, including the Knight Foundation and the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, are teaming up to provide more than $500 million to boost local news over five years — an undertaking called Press Forward... The injection of more than a half-billion dollars is sure to help the quest for a durable and replicable business model.
The even bigger imperative, however, is to elevate local news on the philanthropic food chain so that national and hometown funders prioritize this pivotal American institution. Failure on this front places more pressure on public policy solutions, and government activism mixes poorly with independent journalism...
One of the goals for Press Forward, accordingly, is building out the infrastructure — "from legal support to membership programs" — relied upon by local news providers to deliver their product. Jim Brady, vice president of journalism at the Knight Foundation, says it's easier than ever for news entrepreneurs to launch a local site because they can plug into existing technologies hammered out by their predecessors — and there's more development work still to fund on this front.
So where to go from here? Local philanthropic interests across the country could take a cue from the Press Forward partners and invest in the news organizations down the street.
Who's to blame? The internet, mostly. Whereas deep-pocketed advertisers formerly relied on newspapers to reach their customers, they took to the audience-targeting capabilities of Facebook or Google. Web-based marketplaces also siphoned newspapers' once-robust revenue from classified ads.
But the Post emphasizes one positive new development: "a large pile of cash." In an initiative announced this month, 22 donor organizations, including the Knight Foundation and the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, are teaming up to provide more than $500 million to boost local news over five years — an undertaking called Press Forward... The injection of more than a half-billion dollars is sure to help the quest for a durable and replicable business model.
The even bigger imperative, however, is to elevate local news on the philanthropic food chain so that national and hometown funders prioritize this pivotal American institution. Failure on this front places more pressure on public policy solutions, and government activism mixes poorly with independent journalism...
One of the goals for Press Forward, accordingly, is building out the infrastructure — "from legal support to membership programs" — relied upon by local news providers to deliver their product. Jim Brady, vice president of journalism at the Knight Foundation, says it's easier than ever for news entrepreneurs to launch a local site because they can plug into existing technologies hammered out by their predecessors — and there's more development work still to fund on this front.
So where to go from here? Local philanthropic interests across the country could take a cue from the Press Forward partners and invest in the news organizations down the street.
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70 million Americans live in a county without a newspaper
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And almost all of them live without access to a hackney rental service (outside Amish societies, of course).
We'll have to find something else to wrap our fish in.
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One news outless less that tells its readers bullshit is sure gonna make a difference.
You might not have noticed it, but we now have something we call the internet where, at least in theory, anyone can far easier and with much less input of money and time broadcast information. And if anyone wants to listen, they can do that. Same as a newspaper, just way easier to set up and use.
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And the users will gravitate towards only the "news" that confirms what they already think. Local newspapers are more varied. So in effect, the intertubes just make Americans dumber.
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How is that different than the same yellow journalism on inked dead trees?
You know the term yellow journalism pre dates the internet by at least a few years, right?
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This!
For all the talk about disinformation and such, the real issue that should be more concerning is the mainstream mas-market press. Don't care what your politics are look at the David Portnoy one bite pizza sponsorship thing this past weekend. The Wapo basically decided to smear him, started their own roomers and than went muck racking dredging up decades old complaints that were not news because they were already well covered in the news at the time, and there was no 'new' facts relevant to their so ca
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>Understand who the fascists are here people!
I feel it might be time to coin a new term or resurrect an old one.
While there are a lot of similarities in outcome, they're not REALLY fascists. It's a good old fashioned greedy sociopaths doing whatever they can to accrue more wealth and control.
We've had them as long as we've had societies... there's just a lot more of us to be used and abused now, and the world's interconnected enough to make it possible to do so.
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That comes with a lot of implied meaning that I don't think applies. It's another one of those "hard to tell the difference, the same boot ends up on your neck anyway" kind of things - but the underlying motive is (slightly) different.
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Yeah, we understand perfectly well who the fascists are.
Oh, don't like that? It's just a joke, bruh./s
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You honestly think that's different with newspapers? Really? People will do the same with newspapers they do with online media: Consume the ones that match their world view. And there is hardly any shortage of that.
And even if your IQ is below room temperature, do not worry, for there are newspapers that are better characterized as "picture books for adults". Large, large pictures with very, very little text that avoids those complicated three-syllable words entirely.
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And the users will gravitate towards only the "news" that confirms what they already think. Local newspapers are more varied. So in effect, the intertubes just make Americans dumber.
And this is why public education is being defunded, critical thinking is the enemy of authoritarians of all walks. When you are taught from a young age that your belief dictates reality instead of using facts and logical reasoning and combine it with social ostracism for simply pointing out how swallowed sound byte anecdotes can’t be simultaneously true, you get a population that is very easy to manipulate. The cherry on top is these people pine on about freedom because on a deep level they know the
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Public education isn't being de-funded. It is being eroded by ideology, not from lack of funds.
Yes and no. If you look at the per capita spending per student nationally, over the last decade or so we have been holding about constant with inflation. But just look at this map [educationdata.org]. That total goes predominantly to blue states on a per capita basis. The defunding is the lopsided spending on Democratic areas vs Republican areas. If red states properly funded their populations, they would be just as educated and profitable as blue states. Problem is those people are able to properly identify their self
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How about if someone said of your profession that any bunch of idiots could do it because the internet?
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Yes, that's gossip. And that's also what most newspapers are. Gossip and opinion, opinion and gossip. There are a few quality papers left, granted, but you have to look good and hard to find them.
Just like you have to look good and hard to find online content worth your time.
How about if someone said of your profession that any bunch of idiots could do it because the internet?
The funny bit is, my profession can not be done by a bunch of idiots, exactly because of the internet.
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Hell, I even do my job because of the Internet.
Internet is a distribution medium, not a reporting (Score:3)
You might not have noticed it, but we now have something we call the internet where, at least in theory, anyone can far easier and with much less input of money and time broadcast information.
The internet is a news distribution medium. It is not a news reporting medium, because it doesn't hire reporters.
You can easily bget every kind of national news (from whatever angle you like), but you're not getting local news unless that the internet is reposting articles from your local newspaper. Which hires reporters.
Amateurs with an axe to grind posting stuff on reddit that gets spread around on twitter and facebook is not actually the same as journalists.
Re:Internet is a distribution medium, not a report (Score:4, Interesting)
Amateurs with an axe to grind posting stuff on reddit that gets spread around on twitter and facebook is not actually the same as journalists.
Yes but those amateurs include people like Anders Nielson who teaches at a Danish war college and is an expert on Russian hybrid warfare. Shockingly his analysis of the Ukrainian war is better than anything in the US media (he was one of only two defense experts who predicted Russian failures early in the war). Turns out, with the Internet you can get the analysis directly from actual experts with an actual good track record of being able to interpret events in a specific field. That isn't something the news media is able to match these days. You can also look up real data sets and see actual statisticians analyze them correctly. Turns out if you want to report on energy or industry you need to do that first and those are things the media has proven time and time again that they are incapable of doing. At this point, I get my news at least 2 days before you do if you are reading newspapers.
Local news [Internet is a distribution medium...] (Score:3)
Amateurs with an axe to grind posting stuff on reddit that gets spread around on twitter and facebook is not actually the same as journalists.
Yes but those amateurs include people like Anders Nielson who teaches at a Danish war college and is an expert on Russian hybrid warfare.
I would point out that essays from the occasional expert are in no way a substitute for actual journalism, but I won't. I will point out that the subject is "Can Philanthropy Save Local Newspapers?"
Expertise in Russian hybrid warfare had little relevance to your local news. Did you miss the line previous to the one you quoted?
You can easily get every kind of national news (from whatever angle you like), but you're not getting local news unless that the internet is reposting articles from your local newspaper. Which hires reporters.
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essays from the occasional expert are in no way a substitute for actual journalism
Complete BS. Actual journalists would twist and distort his message to match the current fad or current ideological bias. That's like saying that I can see just fine, even though my glasses are the completely wrong script for me. And I can get this actual expert analysis on just about any topic Also, not for nothing but the best journalists today are mostly people without journalism degrees. Its so bad, that in my opinion, firing all the people with journalism degrees would actually improve our news so
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essays from the occasional expert are in no way a substitute for actual journalism
Complete BS. Actual journalists would twist and distort his message to match the current fad or current ideological bias.
That is the lie that people themselves to justify not reading news that disagrees with their ideology: "The mainstream news is all biased! Only these sources that agree with me can be trusted!"
Right. Good way to stay in your echo chamber.
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You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read.
The projection is so strong with you that you could get good therapy from a tape recorder.
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Oh the irony. So getting information directly from experts about whose politics I have no idea is an echo chamber?
Correct. You are putting forth an excuse to preemptively dismiss all news that doesn't fit your ideology without even reading it.
That's the very definition of an echo chamber.
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I dismiss news sources with a track record of misinformation, propaganda and outright lying.
Nope, you have that backwards. When news sources tell you facts that disagree with your pre-existing opinions, you call them "misinformation, propaganda and outright lying".
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But the subject is local news, Ukraine is a long way away and the problem is how to find out why a local road is closed, what that development is and when to go to the public meeting, as well as other stuff like the coyote attacks last week, etc.
I still get a local paper delivered twice a week with mostly local stuff but compared to 10-20 years back, they're struggling, the classifieds are almost empty and they likely make most of their money from the flyers in the paper. If and when they close, where to ge
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the problem is how to find out why a local road is closed
Our county has a web site where you can lookup stuff like that.
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Amateurs with an axe to grind posting stuff on reddit that gets spread around on twitter and facebook is not actually the same as journalists.
Whether they do it because they have an axe to grind or because the news outlet wants to spin stories a particular way to influence voters... tomeeeeto, tomaaato...
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Re: So? (Score:5, Insightful)
The issue has exactly two causes:
Local business don't want to pay for advertising in local paper because...
Locals don't want to pay a subscription fee
so the paper has no circulation and no advertisers.
You can rail on about how important it is to have a local press, but neither of those two things will change (without subscribers, there's no ads, with no ads, there's no revenue to pay reporters, with no reporters, there's no content to attract subscribers).
Ask yourself a serious question - what could someone put on a piece of paper that would cause you to pay them money to buy a copy for yourself? I'm decidedly old school, and I pay for a couple print magazines related to my hobbies, so I do pay for content I'm interested in, but no one offers compelling local content where I live. (We have one local oaper, but the reporters seem to be little more than unpaid interns trying to build a portfolio to get a paying job elsewhere.
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The local papers are often free around here and delivered to most households once or twice a week, there's a pile of them at my rural mailboxes free for the taking. They come with lots of flyers and some local advertisements, the classifieds are almost empty though. The news is mostly local or at least semi-local with some sharing between the local towns.
If it goes away, it will be hard to find local news and such.
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How little you understand of how functioning democracies depend on local news. See my comments below: https://news.slashdot.org/comm... [slashdot.org]
Sadly there is very little "local" news any more with most local rags being taken over by large corporations who just publish the same article in 14 different local rags after doing a find/replace for the town names.
Most local papers here in the UK just try to peddle outrage because (_) No new housing is being built/(_) New housing is being built/(_) Stores closing down/(_) Town centre being turned into flats (apartments)/(_) A new McDonalds is opening/(_) Pubs are closing/(_) New Pubs are opening as wel
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BTW, govts have more effective & less clandestine ways to "encourage" news orgs to publish what they want the way they want. Plus the news isn't the most effective propaganda machine, that prize goes to TV & films (fiction, mostly); we are the stories we tell ourselves. The Pentagon already spends $billions "supporting" TV & films in return for editorial control over scripts/plots.
C'mon, the Nazis worked that one out nearly a century ago.
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no (Score:2)
regulation of press concentration of billionaires holding press is required.
FTFY (Score:1)
The far-right bullshit masquerading here as 'news' in billionaire 'philanthropist' Lachlan Murdoch's puppet kingdom of Australia would indicate 70 million Americans are better off without a newspaper.
[...] would be better off without a television.
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Note with Fox Spews hanging around puking on verifiable information.
Local news is important (Score:3)
Local news is important. In terms of impact on your life, it is more important to know about the fire next door than the avalanche on another continent. Unfortunately, international clickbait has a huge marketing advantage.
We still have a local paper, and they would even have their news online. But their offers - even the online offers - try to get you to take the physical paper. While you can get an online-only subscription, it is stupidly expensive.
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do you value accuracy of news or how much you perceive it as "unbiased". should news agencies change the facts of the matter to appear unbiased? are you the type of person who refuses to listen to npr because it "leans left" even if they are probably the news org that gives the most amount of time to "both sides" of any particular topic?
People are too cheap to pay for internet services (Score:2)
They're okay to let big tech put them under surveillance and savage their privacy in return for getting everything they want for free on the internet. What makes you think they're gonna shell out a single cent to keep newspapers they don't read in business?
If your business model requires philanthropy, your business is dead. There is no philanthropy. Just a race to the bottom.
Here's an idea! (Score:1)
Donate your used NFTs.
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Used NFTs are about as valuable as a soiled infant's diaper.
Soiled diapers from elected officials are more valuable as they may contain Government secrets.
I hope not... (Score:1)
No one is owed a successful business model (Score:2)
Dead tree news is dead.
Like the buggy whip makers and telephone operators, printed news papers are a shadow of their former selves and will never recover.
I used to read the NYT front to back every day over breakfast. News was already old before ink hit paper. Now I have instant access with near real time updates to news from around the world from multiple sources.
I can even get local news online.
Why the fuck would I ever go backwards?
If someone wants to keep dead tree news alive for nostalgia reasons that
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I might be the last American who subscribes to multiple magazines (R.I.P., "Popular Science"), but there's something to be said about that experience, too.
So when is Slashdot coming out in newspaper form? (We c
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Offline magazines I understand existing. In depth articles don't usually need to be "right NOW!" to be useful or worth keeping long term.
As far as the slashdot sheet goes, I sent it to you last week...? Did you lose an entire edition?? Jfc, dude.... That's why we need dupes!
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Thanks :-) I was in a cheeky mood.
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If I'm understanding this correctly the problem isn't the loss of the physical paper news it's the loss of anyone covering local news at all. When these papers go under so do their websites.
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Yes, agreed. If people wanted local news enough they'd pay for it. If there aren't enough willing to pay what it costs to generate local stories then the people have spoken. If someone else wants to donate cash to keep local news going then more power to 'em.
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Whether "the people have spoken" or not, not having a local news source is not a good thing for a democracy.
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Sure but make local people pay for something they don't want to pay for; see how that works out.
There are lots of things that would be good for society we don't pay for. Local newspapers isn't the top of the list, not even close.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have local news. I'm saying that printing it and charging for those dead trees is a dead/dying business model.
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Sure but make local people pay for something they don't want to pay for; see how that works out.
We do that all the time with taxes. I guarantee you there is some one out there against any form of local taxation and spending you can name and yet it's very much an accepted part of life for most people.
There are lots of things that would be good for society we don't pay for. Local newspapers isn't the top of the list, not even close.
I dont know about about that. An informed electorate is kind of necessary for our form of government to function properly which is pretty integral to our way of life.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have local news. I'm saying that printing it and charging for those dead trees is a dead/dying business model.
And I've never disputed that. Printing news is really just kind of wasteful in this era where almost everyone has a small computer in their p
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Taxing people for a newspaper is not the same as taxing thdm for roads, cops, fire, emt, hospitals, enforcing building and food safety codes and numerous other critical services.
If no one enforces safety codes, people die.
If no one follows local news about the Tigers vs Lions high school game, so what?
I hope the Tigers win! It's going to be a nail biter!
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Heh, your post reads like you only read my first sentence.
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No, I just disagree with your basic premise that local news is a critical societal element.
The high school game is of zero importance to the education of the electorate.
On today's environment people get their local news from Facebook. The reason local newspaper are going out of business is because no one reads it. Give it away free. Pay people to take it. It won't get read. The people aren't interested in it or it wouldn't be dying.
This should be self evident.
Just because I didn't respond point by poin
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The high school game is of zero importance to the education of the electorate.
And comments like these dont address any of my points so why do you keep saying them? All you're doing is pointing at one of the smallest aspects of local news and then stating "See, this is useless so all of local news has to be".
On today's environment people get their local news from Facebook.
And who do you think generates this local news? Who writes the news stories holding local government accountable when there's no one being paid to do so?
I felt your other comments were red herrings and uninteresting.
Or you couldnt address them and you're just making bullshit excuses. The founding fathers went on at length about the value of a
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> Or you couldnt address them and you're just making bullshit excuses.
An odd thing to say in response to me coming back for the purpose of replying to them after you complained I didn't respond to each point.
If I don't respond to something it is because of one or more of:
1) I agreed with you
2) I didn't care about that item either way
3) I felt it wasn't worth a reply for any of various reasons
4) I was too busy to bother
5) You're on my NPC idiot list (you aren't but this is a general list of reasons applyi
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Since we're making lists lets take a moment to look at the arguments that have been made in this discussion.
In support of local news I've
1) Listed a sampling of important issues local news media addresses mostly involving holding local government accountable
2) Cited hundreds years of widely accepted political philosophy that many of our founding fathers avidly subscribed to as being indispensable to democracy
In contrast you have pointed out
1) Local news has high school sports scores published in it (apparen
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My points are fully supported. I apologize if you were triggered by an obvious anecdote.
So now that we're back at square one, your plan is to do what?
Raise taxes to pay local reporters to report on corruption of the same people who are paying their salaries with those taxes.
Fabulous. Sounds like a great plan.
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My points are fully supported
I have provided just as much support for your points I listed as you provided. Feel free to let me know what I got wrong if I missed anything.
I apologize if you were triggered by an obvious anecdote.
Because me pointing out your anecdotes are more or less meaningless in this conversation is somehow me being "triggered"? Should I just have gone along and accepted your pointless stories as meaningful instead? Should I hug you and tell you you're an insightful person while I'm at it too?
Raise taxes to pay local reporters to report on corruption of the same people who are paying their salaries with those taxes.
Fabulous. Sounds like a great plan.
I love how you claim to read my posts and you say shit like this. I pointed to th
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Are you sure? Go into almost any hotel, anywhere in the USA and you'll find copies of USA Today, free for the taking. Of course, it's the hotel that pays for them, because they know that a large number of their guests want to read it and it's a nice perk to get it for free. I live in a small city and the local supermarket provides a free local magazine that's paid for by the advertisers. Lots of ads and interesting (to me) articles on local history.
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Pretty sure. If nothing else this entire article is about the death of printed newspapers. Even with no other information that is pretty telling to me.
Ymmv.
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No, I think this is one of many articles that have been written about the death of newspapers for many years as subscriptions declined and papers of all sized did layoffs.
This is hardly the first or only time I've seen this said. Is it the first time for you? Did this article make you lose your "newspapers are dying" virginity?
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I was here when UID were 3 digits so don't pull the "I've been here longer than you therefore I'm better!" thing. It's lame and UID=value is a silly metric.
Now then back to reality. You act like this is the first time you saw an article that said newspapers are dying. If true then you need to learn about the newspaper industry. If not the case and you were aware they've been dying for years then you are just trolling.
Either way, it doesn't matter what you actually believe or if you're just jerking my ch
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I used to do a bit of traveling for work, and I never wanted to read USA Today. I was always interested in reading the local (usually big-city) newspaper, mainly because I found it interesting to read about the place I was visiting, but it also helpe
Philanthropy as a prop is a symptom of failure (Score:2)
Depending on the 1% to replace things the general population thinks are a good idea but cannot afford to buy or fund through taxation is a sign of social rot.
The West is ridiculously wealthy, but we're letting a tiny handful of people live like gods instead of forcing compression of the wealth curve. Never has there ever been a nation that was a nice place to live when a small number of people essentially controlled everything, and we're letting our societies slowly fall back into that state we spent so mu
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Depending on the 1% to replace things the general population thinks are a good idea but cannot afford to buy or fund through taxation is a sign of social rot.
Is it your contention that people aren't buying newspapers because they can't afford them? Could it be that instead, an increasing number of people see no value in newspapers?
I'm not a U.S. resident, but I am considered "poor" by the standards of my society. I'm not starving, and if I wanted to, I could buy a newspaper once in a while. In fact, up until about 10 years ago, I did exactly that on a regular basis. I stopped because journalism has essentially died. I'm not buying a paper containing nonsense wri
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Wow, are you really that stupid?
I support my local nonprofit news organization, and it is great. They do 5 investigative pieces each weekday and cover the things that the commercial paper is hesitant to. I didn't give much, maybe $500, but they reached out to me and wanted to thank me and get my input.
These types of newsrooms make a huge difference in giving people the information they deserve on corruption, community, and other subjects that are not easy to cover in a for-profit format. How else are you go
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Have you looked at his username? Of course he is; if he were even half as smart as he thinks he is he'd have known better than to pick that, and he'd have taken the time to proofread it and see that the perpendicular pronoun wasn't capitalized.
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... instead of local news funded by used car dealerships (the old newspaper game), we are going to have local news funded by big NGOs with their own agendas?
All part of "fortifying" "democracy", I guess.
endowment-fnanced local jouirnalism is the future (Score:1)
Newspapers and other local journalism vehicles need to be nonprofits supported by earnings from an endowment that the board of the nonprofit holds and manages. They also need to operate an education arm that increases access to journalism careers by apprenticing journalists and cutting the overpriced colleges and universities out of the process. Pittance grants from likes of MacArthur and Knight are irrelevant- they need to donate endowment level grants whose earnings can support a minimum initial staff of
As a hobby, maybe (Score:1)
I doubt philanthropy is a sustainable business model for an objective, independent, widespread yet local news service.
I don't have a solution. Newspapers existed because communities needed news. Part of the business was employing a cadre of local news reporters. The problem is that the local, manual, dead-tree delivery of news is frankly no longer needed. People still want news, but there is no need for that local infrastructure, thus no need for the local ecosystem that supported and fed it.
So local ne
Re: As a hobby, maybe (Score:2)
Nextdoor (Score:4, Insightful)
My rural small town has a local paper, but it's always suffered from a frustrating lack of follow-up. Major stories, like the murder-suicide of a couple who would seem to have had everything to live for, get standardized initial coverage and then...nothing. We never find out how any story ends.
But now that there's a social medium that does a better job of local news. Call it gossip if you will, but if you apply the instincts we are developing to glean truth from the general online firehose, we can learn a lot about our local area from it,
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get out of the house and walk around you fucking weirdo, yeah you are the fucking weirdo in this scenario
Let me guess: someone's Ring camera picked you up on one of your afternoons of walking around rattling doorknobs?
Not really... (Score:2)
The injection of more than a half-billion dollars is sure to help the quest for a durable and replicable business model.
What happens when the half-billion runs out?
This is simply propping-up an industry the consumers has moved on from.
He who pays the piper calls the tune. (Score:3)
Before you get too outraged, consider this: news outlets, including local ones, have always been propaganda outlets.
(Want to know about the fire last night down the block? Ask somebody down the block. Reporters know nothing.)
YES, but only if there is enough of it (Score:1)
The question isn't "CAN" philanthropy save local newspapers, it's "HOW MUCH" is needed this year and every year after.
Half a billion dollars? That will help, but will it plus any future philanthropic dollars be enough? My Magic 8 Ball says "Ask again later."
Local News? (Score:3)
For me, it depends on whether the "local" newspapers will actually cover local news, and have reasonable rates. When the one near me started losing money, the first thing they cut was local news, then they started raising rates. All they were doing was taking articles from the AP and some of the larger national papers, cut/pasting them, and charging more for it. Within a year or two, they increased the rates so much that it cost for 2 months, what it used to cost for 6 months, so I quit. I wish them luck, but a lot of people have moved on to online rumor mills, and seem to be happy with them.
Easier way to save them (Score:3)
Yep thatâ(TM)ll encourage them. (Score:2)
âoeThe injection of more than a half-billion dollars is sure to help the quest for a durable and replicable business modelâ
Or more likely the total opposite. It will just keep them leashed to their donors.
Re: Go Woke Go Broke (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: Go Woke Go Broke (Score:5, Interesting)
Stop pretending that the right wing doesn't have as much or possibly even more media representation in the current environment than the left wing. The victim game is over, there may be more conservative news sites out there with more views than liberal ones, the liberal ones are just the more prominent old guard.
Just own it conservatives, you have a thriving media ecosystem, you did it. I can rattle off a dozen-plus popular right-wing news sources today, multiples million+ subscriber Youtube and Tiktok channels, multiple conservative social media and streaming networks, 3 cable news channels with one of them still the most popular in the United States and continued control over terrestrial radio and a controlled network of local TV news stations and none of them do a "balanced" news job, they are explicitly biased. Stop acting like this doesn't exist, it's theater.
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The victim game is over
You first tankie.
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Excellent response, definitely addressed my point in a concise and convincing manner. You've given us all a lot to think about.
My side: truth. Your side: proaganda. (Score:2)