Boeing CEO, Many Other Top Execs To Step Down in Leadership Shakeup at Embattled Plane Maker (mediaroom.com) 119
Boeing announced a major leadership overhaul Monday, with CEO Dave Calhoun set to step down at the end of 2024 amid mounting pressure from airlines and regulators over quality and manufacturing issues. Chairman Larry Kellner will also resign and depart the board at Boeing's annual meeting in May, the company said. He will be replaced as chair by Steve Mollenkopf, a Boeing director since 2020. Stan Deal, president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, is leaving the company effective immediately. Stephanie Pope, who recently became Boeing's Chief Operating Officer after leading Boeing Global Services, will take over Deal's role.
The shakeup comes as the aerospace giant faces increasing scrutiny following a series of production flaws and a recent incident involving a nearly new Boeing 737 Max 9, where a door plug blew out minutes into an Alaska Airlines flight on Jan. 5. Airlines and regulators have been calling for significant changes at Boeing to address these issues and restore confidence in the company's products. The leadership changes appear to be a response to these growing concerns.
An excerpt from a letter the CEO wrote to employees, also on Monday: As you all know, the Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 accident was a watershed moment for Boeing. We must continue to respond to this accident with humility and complete transparency. We also must inculcate a total commitment to safety and quality at every level of our company.
The eyes of the world are on us, and I know we will come through this moment a better company, building on all the learnings we accumulated as we worked together to rebuild Boeing over the last number of years.
The shakeup comes as the aerospace giant faces increasing scrutiny following a series of production flaws and a recent incident involving a nearly new Boeing 737 Max 9, where a door plug blew out minutes into an Alaska Airlines flight on Jan. 5. Airlines and regulators have been calling for significant changes at Boeing to address these issues and restore confidence in the company's products. The leadership changes appear to be a response to these growing concerns.
An excerpt from a letter the CEO wrote to employees, also on Monday: As you all know, the Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 accident was a watershed moment for Boeing. We must continue to respond to this accident with humility and complete transparency. We also must inculcate a total commitment to safety and quality at every level of our company.
The eyes of the world are on us, and I know we will come through this moment a better company, building on all the learnings we accumulated as we worked together to rebuild Boeing over the last number of years.
Link, and summary... (Score:3)
Link to the Boeing announcement [boeing.com]
Quick summary
There's a link to a letter from the CEO, but both my ad-blocker and my pi-hole object to it. Great job, Boeing, where the heck did you put that letter? Right next to the door-plug removal documentation?
Re:Link, and summary... (Score:4, Funny)
There's a link to a letter from the CEO, but both my ad-blocker and my pi-hole object to it. Great job, Boeing, where the heck did you put that letter? Right next to the door-plug removal documentation?
No, it was next to the door plug reinstallation documentation.
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And so got blown away when the door plug blew out of the plane.
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Link to the Boeing announcement [boeing.com]
Quick summary
There's a link to a letter from the CEO, but both my ad-blocker and my pi-hole object to it. Great job, Boeing, where the heck did you put that letter? Right next to the door-plug removal documentation?
None of this matters, because they're being replaced by people within Boeing that worked very close with them. It's not like they're bringing in fresh blood. This is the appearance of "doing something".
Boeing needs to reinvent itself (Score:5, Insightful)
They need to expunge the mcdonnell douglas culture, bring everything back to Seattle, and be a company making really cool flying machines again, damn the cost. Make it engineering led with a focus on safety, bean counters be damned
Re:Boeing needs to reinvent itself (Score:5, Insightful)
They need to expunge the mcdonnell douglas culture, bring everything back to Seattle, and be a company making really cool flying machines again, damn the cost. Make it engineering led with a focus on safety, bean counters be damned
The huge problem with the MBA/Accountant culture is they lose sight of the prime focus, which is to make good planes in this case.
They look at themselves as the purpose of the company. The planes are now an unfortunately expensive things that are built to serve the MBA's and accountants and shareholders.
But if you make a good and safe plane, the sales and profits will tend to take care of themselves.
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They need to expunge the mcdonnell douglas culture, bring everything back to Seattle, and be a company making really cool flying machines again, damn the cost. Make it engineering led with a focus on safety, bean counters be damned
The huge problem with the MBA/Accountant culture is they lose sight of the prime focus, which is to make good planes in this case.
They look at themselves as the purpose of the company. The planes are now an unfortunately expensive things that are built to serve the MBA's and accountants and shareholders.
But if you make a good and safe plane, the sales and profits will tend to take care of themselves.
Blaming this on MBA/Accountant culture is a fallacy. A good businessman/woman realises what the core factors are that are essential to making a business profitable and that profit is not the only measure of success. In this case it is above all safe aircraft. Boeing, Airbus, they all stand and fall with their safety record. Anybody who forgets that is a poor MBA/Accountant/Business-person. The problem with America’s business community is that it seems to think Gordon Gekko is someone to emulate.
Re:Boeing needs to reinvent itself (Score:5, Insightful)
A good businessman/woman realises what the core factors are that are essential to making a business profitable and that profit is not the only measure of success.
That all goes out the door when the shareholders are demanding continuous quarter over quarter growth. Almost every company now is looking no farther than the next quarter, how they can squeeze more recurring revenue from their users while cutting costs. This isn't just a Boeing problem, it's an unregulated capitalism problem that is going to destroy our country pretty quickly. Boeing just happens to be in the spotlight right now because their products are falling out of the sky and killing hundreds of people in a spectacular fashion.
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That's exactly why the MBAs deserve the blame. There ARE people in business that understand the importance of the core product and core competency, but that's not MBAs.
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That's exactly why the MBAs deserve the blame. There ARE people in business that understand the importance of the core product and core competency, but that's not MBAs.
Yeah, the bloom is off the MBA abomination. Applicants are dropping, thank goodness.
A company making a technological engineering based product needs people who are familiar with the process, not people who spent a few years in college to come out as masters of the universe, able to lead the country into a brave and profitable new direction, without knowing anything about the devices that earn that money.
It is pretty obvious which group was running Boeing.
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Bla
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Blaming this on MBA/Accountant culture is a fallacy.
Okay, let's run with that.
A good businessman/woman realises what the core factors are that are essential to making a business profitable and that profit is not the only measure of success.
On the face of it, how could you argue with that? But it veers into some interesting territory. Allow me..
MBA's and Accountants run a whole spectrum of competencies and core focus of intent. So while a long term focus is good for the company, it is not universal. I'm not certain it is the majority for all that matter, because not all companies have such a drastic fault case, be it software causing a plane to auger in, or half attached doors to pop off in flight. You could have
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The main point of the MCAS was to prevent having to recertify the aircraft, which at a minimum would have cost millions and delayed its introduction by a couple of years. Once upon a time the FAA had staff who could say, "This is/isn't too big a change and now it needs/doesn't need to be recertified." Since the days of Newt gingrich and the Libertardians their budget for enforcement has been squeezed to the point where they're required to just accept the word of the manufacturer. For a really in-depth ex
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The main point of the MCAS was to prevent having to recertify the aircraft, which at a minimum would have cost millions and delayed its introduction by a couple of years.
And look how much that they made from that. Business genius that only cost them 20 Billion in direct costs, and all of the indirect costs, like paying the surviving families that they killed a loved one, we're still waiting on the established negligence total - I think
And boy howdy - that saved timeline really was a hit, amirite?
Sarcasm aside, this whole debacle is going to be a textbook case in the future. From the design that changed the flying characteristics of the plane, the short sighted MCAS imp
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Indeed, the MBA Disease has struck again. Boeing laid off all its experienced software engineers and started hiring cheap contractors. Dealing with multiple inputs, failovers, and realtime outputs is a very specialized skill set, but as far as the executives were concerned programmers are a fungible input so the contracted the MCAS with a company that normally wrote software for financial institutions. All programmers are the same, right?
Penny smart, pound stupid.
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SEC administrative courts interpret that as illegal behavior, shirking their fiduciary duty to return value to the shareholders at the next quarterly report.
It's absurd and hateful of American Business, but unless SCOTUS overturns the /Chevron/ doctrine this Spring you can expect most American businesses to follow the same path because SEC controls their behavior more than markets do.
But check back in six months and all these guys will be working for COMAC - there you get into real Kissinger economics.
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Re:Boeing needs to reinvent itself (Score:5, Insightful)
SEC administrative courts interpret that as illegal behavior, shirking their fiduciary duty to return value to the shareholders at the next quarterly report.
Got an actual citation for that? Because courts have generally given management wide latitude to decide what is best for shareholders. There is no legal requirement to optimize this quarter's results, if management believe better results can be obtained long term.
What has really driven the drive for short-term profits is CEO compensation schemes, which have prioritized the short term.
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SEC administrative courts interpret that as illegal behavior, shirking their fiduciary duty to return value to the shareholders at the next quarterly report.
Got an actual citation for that? Because courts have generally given management wide latitude to decide what is best for shareholders. There is no legal requirement to optimize this quarter's results, if management believe better results can be obtained long term.
What has really driven the drive for short-term profits is CEO compensation schemes, which have prioritized the short term.
I suspect many investors actually want is a company that does a lot of R&D and a company that prioritizes quality and long term growth.
The problem is that big corporations are hideously complex, so even if a company says they're doing R&D and investments in quality it's really hard for even sophisticated investors to evaluate that claim (or the quality of those investments). So they're stuck doing the same thing as short term investors, basing their decisions on the last quarter's profits.
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I'll bet that even though listening to the engineers might have reduced profitability in the short term, the loss would never be as great as the cost of the negative headlines inspiring the saying "If it's Boeing, I ain't going".
The Qualcomm guy is now building airplanes? (Score:3)
Well, didn't really know him. He was in a weekly meeting I attended while I was at Qualcomm. He was just an engineer then and seemed like a good guy.
Jail the bastards .. (Score:1)
Long overdue (Score:2)
I would never get in a boeing plane ever again (Score:2)
Running away. (Score:4, Insightful)
Instead of making a plan that involved hard choices in order to fix the problem, the executives is simply running away from the problem they created.
Nobody should hire a single one of them for even the lowest management position.
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Step down? (Score:2)
No... Golden parachute out
What about FAA firings? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:What about FAA firings? (Score:5, Interesting)
Almost like someone went along slashing budgets for things he didn't understand. https://www.washingtonpost.com... [washingtonpost.com]
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The FAA had no choice. Newt Gingrich's 'moment of brilliance' was when he realized that he didn't have to eliminate agencies that his corporate sponsors didn't like, all he had to do was to make their enforcement budget a separate line item and then squeeze. The FAA used to have people who could look at something like the 737 MAX and say, "This is too big a change, the plane needs to be recertified." Now all they and most of the other regulatory agencies can do is accept self-certification from industry
Should have been trust-busted ages ago. (Score:3)
Raising the IQ (Score:2)
It's about time (Score:2)
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What seems to have happened was they tried to save money by taking the same design as the original 737 and just scale it up to be proportionally larger. A cheap hack to get more space and more revenue with minimal engineering or training cost that might have worked fine if not for the fact that at the last minute some manager who had never flown a plane decided to double the size of the engines so it would feel more "ballsy."
Thwump. Thump th-thwump. Thwump-ump. (Score:3)
Hoping to escape the noose? (Score:3)
Trying to get out before the attorney general gets involved?
nothingburger (Score:2)
All I'm seeing is a company accused of favoring "oppressed" "minority groups" just replaced a man with a woman. Not good optics, just saying. Why not just zero the company's stock price and announce you're hiring an LGBTQ+ illegal immigrant in a wheelchair f
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What the hell does the board have to do with daily operations like safety inspections? Unless these people were responsible for constantly saying "save more money by any means necessary," I don't see a single connection to the problem from that high up. All I'm seeing is a company accused of favoring "oppressed" "minority groups" just replaced a man with a woman. Not good optics, just saying. Why not just zero the company's stock price and announce you're hiring an LGBTQ+ illegal immigrant in a wheelchair for your CEO and get it over with?
The board is the ones who approved moving headquarters away from Seattle and putting share price above safety as company goals.
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better accounting (Score:3)
New CEO (replacing Deal) is an accountant and MBA, apparently no experience in engineering. But she is a girl, so that's a plus. No, really, because it seems that women in these positions behave more ethically than men for some reason, despite being promoted for the wrong reasons.
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But she is a girl, so that's a plus. No, really, because it seems that women in these positions behave more ethically than men for some reason, despite being promoted for the wrong reasons.
yeah, about that "women are more ethical" position that you have. Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Are you implying that none of the owners of those companies were of the female persuasion? I recall one woman being given the Death Penalty at the time. I can find no evidence that the penalty was actually applied to her.
See? This is where DEI has gone wrong. Women are just as capable as men of being fucked up and narcissistic.
End of 2024, why not March 31? (Score:2)
They need to step down now so the changes can begin ASAP. And all new leadership selections should be based solely on competence.
Stephanie Pope (Score:2)
Such a shame! (Score:2)
Yes, it's a huge fucking shame that they'll get their golden parachutes. And then they'll either be hired somewhere else with equivalent pay and benefits, or go through the revolving door and become government aviation consultants.
The closest people like this get to falling on their swords is accidentally poking themselves with their swizzle sticks as they celebrate their soft and lucrative landing in some other cushy circle-jerk job.
Re:Won't help much until (Score:4, Insightful)
Found the fanatic.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston S. Churchill
Maybe try to contribute something of actual value instead?
Re:Won't help much until (Score:5, Insightful)
Found the fanatic.
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston S. Churchill
Maybe try to contribute something of actual value instead?
Exactly.
Race/gender/sex has nothing to do with this issue. Someone saw that a women moved into a position, and got butthurt.
What has everything to do with the problem is Boeing's corporate culture. Somewhere along the line, Boeing's culture approached making these flying beasts as if they were a Pizza chain. Where job number one is short term profit, and safety and the product itself is more of a pain in the ass than a mission.
MBA's and Accountants (all genuflect) are the focus, the engineers and people who design and make the planes are just another group to make lean as possible, and safety is just another pain to be dealt with as cheaply as can be.
I would suggest a couple things. Do not promote from within. That culture is broken, and badly needs an outsider.
Second, all those fired - and there should be many more - should get jobs in a Pizza chain, where they can do as little damage as possible.
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It's Satanism, and these fools here are astroturfing over it by trying to deflect the argument towards something politically divisive. They do the same thing for both political parties, using opposite and complimentary antagonism. They're literally playing both sides off each other as a distraction to keep people from recognizing the cult activity. The plane crashes were purposefully orchestrated accidents; attempts at mass human sacrifice to gain some sort of magic power.
Re: Won't help much until (Score:1)
If you're being sarcastic, I can't tell. And when talking about TPTB, people joke about such things, but there are people among them that really do things like that. So, I'll drop the sarcasm myself for a moment.
I suspect being poisoned on multiple occasions, after the 2017 Mandalay Bay mass shooting. Symptoms include *hundreds* of hours of sleeplessness and psychosis, to name a few. I never experienced either symptom, prior to that shooting. And I tried to share information with investigators, about an inc
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Well, I sympathize, I'm not being sarcastic, and I'm sure they've been fucking with more people than just me and Boeing, so I think some of your observations are probably valid. Just don't forget that if it is them, they're hoping for one of two outcomes: 1) scare you into silence/obedience, or 2) trigger you to go so far off your rocker that you'll self-terminate or that at least when they make it look like you did nobody will question it because "aw he was talking crazy up to the end."
This is just an anec
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One thing to add to this: One doctor told me this had been happening to more and more people lately.
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Fuck off, Satanist. You guys have gone too far and exposed yourselves. People have talked about your orgies on TV! It's only a matter of time before everyone knows you are real, and the public will finally know what the witch hunts were really about.
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Talk therapy? I've yet to find a therapist or doctor I trust. Most of them just milk the hour. One guy was a good candidate, but left to do therapy with the Army, and trust never fully developed.
My last two visits to Swedish Hospital on Cherry Hill in Seattle were unbelievable. The second round in the same night resulted in their staff telling me I needed surgery and putting on a cast. The cast was unnecessary, it was wrapped improperly, and I found a cough drop inside when it was removed. Surgery wasn't ne
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bullshit - Boeing managed to deliver a string of successful updates to their fleet for 20 years after the MD merger. There problems are more recent;
Culture change takes time. That means building up a culture of quality takes time, but also means tearing down a quality-oriented culture in favor of a next-quarter-bottom-line culture also doesn't happen immediately.
and we all know which cultural changes are more recent.
Yes: end of the cold war subsidy of big aerospace, replaced by the "war on terror", with less dependence on aerospace giants.
Re:Won't help much until (Score:5, Informative)
The 737 3rd gen was released before the merger. The MAX was the first generational update to show what the 'new Boeing' would do, and it didn't get out until 2017.
In other words, they had 20 years of coasting on the pre-merger design with minor tweaks and updates.
Boeing is not some bastion of merit ruined by DEI, it's a big brand looted by mismanagement for short term profit.
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One simply has to read the internal emails from Boeing employees when the airplane was being built. No mention of unqualified brown people, blue haired lesbians, trans people, or liberals. Just gross incompetence and negligence.
https://theguardian.com/busine... [theguardian.com]
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Funny how all of those who are "resigning" are men.
It must be the mansplaining culture that's the problem.
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Re:Won't help much until (Score:5, Informative)
So tired of seeing this drum being beat endlessly when the Boeing problems started *well* before the oft-cited DEI policy statements.
It's about cost cutting and shooting the messengers.
The hollow wording around the "official" hiring and incentive plans are just like most other big companies, they mean nothing and the true strategy is always screw over employees and customers to the extent you can get away with while pretending you care about something respectable.
Re:Won't help much until (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, Boeing's problems are incredibly well documented and have everything to do with business folks trying to extract every last ounce of profit at the expense of everything else. Stock buybacks, cost cutting, selling off the Wichita factory- all stupid decisions to drive up the stock price while sacrificing investment into R&D and quality control.
And yet that never stops the racists coming out of the woodwork to blame DEI or anything else they think of.
Re:Won't help much until (Score:5, Insightful)
MBAs: Let's outsource and cost-cut our way into danger!
Right-wing idiots on Slashdot: Der her look what DEI did!
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"There's nothing more racist than replacing a meritocracy with race quotas."
The most un-happening thing that never happened. If they were meritocratic they wouldn't have been so homogeneous in the first place.
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You can rant and rave all you want, but it was the white business bros running the company who ruined it, not anyone on the production line.
Hell, those same bros are the ones who shipped the 787 production line to South Carolina so they could get rid of a lot of the highly paid and experienced union workers in Washington. But sure, let's double down on the racism!
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And them shooting the whistleblowers.
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DEI has been around at Boeing for years, before it was called DEI and it most certainly is part of the problem. We had someone hired into Flight Controls with a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Washington who couldn't do basic elementary school arithmetic. I'll let you guess his ethnicity and religion.... That person still works at the company last I checked.
If the internal emails that people in this conversation don't mention DEI as a problem, it's because people know they
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Boeing engineers aren't licensed by the State of Washington. Complaining within the company will just get the James Damore treatment.
You're solution is to STFU and let unqualified people remain in safety sensitive positions in the name of DEI.
You are part of the problem.
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DEI is the same problem though. It doesn't help the company, or any company to put people into positions based on social constructs.
You want people by merit and track record.
These concepts embedded in DEI WERE in place in one function or another in the past 15 years at least. They just didn't just happen in the past 2-4 or even 8 years.
Its just a contributing factor among others cited here among ethical and business/engineering professional problems the company has been engaged with.
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So tired of seeing this drum being beat endlessly when the Boeing problems started *well* before the oft-cited DEI policy statements.
I agree but why do things seem to have to be mutually exclusive nowadays? Why two or more things couldn't contribute to a problem, each making matter worse?
Not the issue (Score:5, Informative)
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Boeing's problems have very little to do with DEI. The primary problems came from when Boeing merged with the then struggling McDonnel Douglas and somehow the MD management ended up almost completely in charge. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/01/boeing-737-max-corporate-culture/677120/ [theatlantic.com]. They even moved the corporate headquarters to be deliberately further away from the factories and engineers. So what was once one of the most engineering focused of businesses became completely business focused.
Oh not this again.
From the article:
But in 1997, Boeing bought another aircraft manufacturer, McDonnell Douglas, in what turned out to be a kind of reverse acquisition—executives from McDonnell Douglas ended up dominating and remaking Boeing. They turned it from a company that was relentlessly focused on product to one more focused on profit.
As if Boeing wasn't ruthlessly focused on profit before the merger, like all large companies.
Most of this whining comes from legacy Boeing employees that lost out come promotion time to MD employees in the merger. The legacy Boeing people have been the source for many of these articles, like your source in the Atlantic, and they've been out of the company a long time. Most of them have no idea what's going on inside today.
Boeing's problem, like all other large corporations
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We all have that grandpa or uncle with a refrigerator in his garage that's been running for 50 years. And yet I can't get one to last more than 6 or 7 these days.
If you are willing to pay the electricity bill for that 50 year old refrigerator, that's up to you. I would throw out that thing rather yesterday than today and buy something sensible. By the way, my two fridges (both no-name brands) are running fine for more than 10 years now. One has lost its handles, but someday, I'll 3D print a new one, if I am feeling like it. But right now, it's not a top priority, as I can easily open it by the door frame.
[facepalm] (Score:3)
"Oh not this again." - yes, again, because it's IMPORTANT
"As if Boeing wasn't ruthlessly focused on profit before the merger, like all large companies." - Yes, they were, BUT Boeing was always an safety and engineer-focused and run company that balanced these things. When the old Boeing management team was dumped, the balance was destroyed and the corporation became an MBA-degree run shop with a focus entirely on money.
"Most of this whining comes from legacy Boeing employees that lost out come promotio
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not able to upvote right now or I'd definitely upvote this response too. The poor decisions made by the new management are ultimately inseparable from the fact that the new management is who made them.
There are obviously some subtleties, I'm curious to know what everyone thinks of the presentation by the Wendover Productions video. (For the uninitiated, https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com])
for one, their presentation seems to be that the 737 Max problems were a result of 'rebounding' from the partnering busine
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I call it 'the MBA Disease', once upon a time one rose up through the ranks, by the time you reached the executive suites you had an idea what everyone below you did. Even Henry Ford made Edsel work on the assembly line for a year (and complained about having to pay union dues) before letting him into management. Now they come out of college with their shiny new MBA degree and six figures of debt, not having worked a day in their lives, and go to manage companies they don't undertand. Executive job swapp
Re:Not the issue (Score:4, Informative)
The timeline just works better. The MAX was developed firmly under the MD leadership era and the prior generation was completed before the MD leadership era. Many of the problems are present from the onset of the platform.
The DEI policy came after the MCAS fiasco, as a part of trying to clean up their image. The DEI is a result of, not a cause of their failures.
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The DEI policy
If they are like most organizations, their DEI policy is just a bunch of words with no actual actions. Anyone blaming DEI is just a troll.
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Are you that easily tricked by stupid right-wing talking points?
Re:Won't help much until (Score:5, Informative)
Are you that easily tricked by stupid right-wing talking points?
They generally are, so the answer to your question is yes.
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See how many points you can check.
1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability
2. Zero tolerance for criticism or questions
3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget
4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
5. A belief that former followers are always wrong for leaving and there is never a legitimate reason for anyone else to leave
6. Abuse of members
7. Records, books, articles, or programs documenting the abuses of the leader or
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Wow. Sounds like the Biden administration.
Wait, really? Let's see.
See how many points you can check.
1. Absolute authoritarianism without accountability
Describes Putin, but not particularly Biden. Who's the guy who loves Putin [nbcnews.com]? Oh, yes-- Trump.
2. Zero tolerance for criticism or questions
That's true of pretty much every politician, alas.
3. Lack of meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget
Definitely Trump [time.com] is the one here.
4. Unreasonable fears about the outside world that often involve evil conspiracies and persecutions
Wow, definitely Trump. A conspiracy of literally thousands of voting precincts across the country, including the Republican secretary of state of Georgia (and not even mentioning the head of voting security, who was appointed by Trump), to defraud the election? Trump is the king of evil conspiracies and persecu
Re:Won't help much until (Score:4, Informative)
How would dropping DEI help when the people who are responsible are all white? A bunch of business bros got put in charge after the MD merger, then sold off the Wichita factory, cut R&D and quality control spending among other cost-cutting measures, and then used the money to initiate stock buybacks to drive up the stock price for the investors. Those same senior folks then pressured line workers to ignore quality issues and threatened them if they tried to blow the whistle to the government.
It wasn't DEI hires that caused the Pentagon procurement scandal under Philip Condit. It wasn't DEI hires who caused Harry Stonecipher to focus on profitability above just about anything else leading to engineering lapses or his own personal misconduct. It wasn't DEI hires who caused James McNerney to botch the 787 project through absurd outsourcing. And so on and so forth.
Besides, the DEI policies you're talking about came along well after Boeing's problems started- so maybe turn down the racism just a bit?
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Corporate DEI policies are performative at best. I don't know why everyone gets so ruled up by theater.
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they drop the DEI component and go back to merit-based hiring instead of race and gender-based hiring.
So what you're saying is that even if the face of overwhelming evidence that the problems have nothing to do with DEI, you'll still blame DEI.
Therefore, the next time that Fox News, Newsmax, and the rest of the right wing media sphere you get your news from blames DEI for something, we should just assume you're all completely full of s*#t.
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Wrong. Maybe they're dropping the real cause of the problem, MBA running the company, instead of engineers.
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Yep, found them.
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I’ll take “people who have the Fox News logo burned into their tv” for $1000, Alex.
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DEI is a scam. Its a scam that literally tells CEOs that they can give themselves a bigger bonus for implementing DIE and die they do. "Go Woke, Go Broke".
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This is obvious astroturf. I recognize you, Satanist.
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I'll take D-K effect example for 1000 Alex. Turn off all mainstream media as it rots your brain.
Fox is the mainstream media. They are by far the number one cable news channel. https://deadline.com/2024/02/f... [deadline.com]
DEI is a scam. Its a scam that literally tells CEOs that they can give themselves a bigger bonus for implementing DIE and die they do. "Go Woke, Go Broke".
DEI had absolutely zero to do with what happened and the only person talking about it is you. Read the internal emails between Boeing employees who said they wouldn't let their families fly on this plane. https://www.theguardian.com/bu... [theguardian.com]
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DEI is a scam. Its a scam that literally tells CEOs that they can give themselves a bigger bonus for implementing DIE and die they do. "Go Woke, Go Broke".
I have yet to see any evidence that DEI had anything to do with Boeing's quality problems. There does, however, seem to be a lot of evidence that it's related to changing the corporate culture from an engineering-led company to a MBA-led company divorced from any engineering input.
Here's a photo of their commercial airplane management: https://www.wsj.com/articles/b... [wsj.com]
Doesn't look very diverse to me.
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DEI is a scam. Its a scam that literally tells CEOs that they can give themselves a bigger bonus for implementing DIE and die they do. "Go Woke, Go Broke".
I have yet to see any evidence that DEI had anything to do with Boeing's quality problems. There does, however, seem to be a lot of evidence that it's related to changing the corporate culture from an engineering-led company to a MBA-led company divorced from any engineering input.
Here's a photo of their commercial airplane management: https://www.wsj.com/articles/b... [wsj.com]
Doesn't look very diverse to me.
The reason DEI scares him is because his magical white skin and what's betwixt his legs no longer guarantee him a cushy job that he's barely qualified for. With Women *gasp* and minorities competing for his job, they might find people who are better qualified.
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I was literally agreeing with you.
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"They simply have to prove Rand wrong no matter how painfully more evident it becomes every day they are going to end up vindicating her."
This very thing happened to me. Ayn was right; I was wrong. I didn't think being raped by a fascist was going to be much fun, but now it happens frequently, so I guess I must enjoy it.