Record Heat in Europe, Asia Closes Another Extremely Warm Month For Planet (washingtonpost.com) 91
Earth has a long-running fever that shows little signs of easing. The planet has set high temperature records in each of the last nine months, and March is poised to become the 10th. From a report: Multiple locations around the world observed unprecedented heat on the month's final weekend, as if to put an exclamation mark on this exceptional run of warmth. The weekend heat was most widespread in Europe, where many countries set national high temperature records for March. But it was also unusually warm in Asia, parts of Central America and West Africa.
Human-caused climate change from the burning of coal, oil and natural gas is fueling this warmth, with an assist from the El Niño climate pattern. It felt more like summer than early spring in Eastern Europe over the weekend, with temperatures soaring into the 70s and 80s, about 20 to 35 degrees above normal. Eight countries set national records for March warmth. Further reading: India Predicts Searing Heat in Threat to Lives, Power Supply.
Human-caused climate change from the burning of coal, oil and natural gas is fueling this warmth, with an assist from the El Niño climate pattern. It felt more like summer than early spring in Eastern Europe over the weekend, with temperatures soaring into the 70s and 80s, about 20 to 35 degrees above normal. Eight countries set national records for March warmth. Further reading: India Predicts Searing Heat in Threat to Lives, Power Supply.
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The link between human-caused climate change, fueled by the burning of fossil fuels, and the rising temperatures is undeniable. Additionally, the influence of the El Niño climate pattern exacerbates these conditions, amplifying the already concerning trends. What's particularly alarming is how quickly these changes are manifesting, with temperatures soaring to summer-like levels even in early spring.
These worrying signs demand urgent action on a global scale. It's imperative that governments, industries, and individuals come together to implement sustainable practices, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and invest in renewable energy sources. Only through concerted efforts can we hope to mitigate the impacts of climate change and safeguard the future of our planet for generations to come.
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These worrying signs demand urgent action on a global scale. It's imperative that governments, industries, and individuals come together to implement sustainable practices, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and invest in renewable energy sources. Only through concerted efforts can we hope to mitigate the impacts of climate change and safeguard the future of our planet for generations to come.
Yeah I'm leaning toward the paddle shifters.
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Funny, since if you are using paddle shifters I imagine it's safe to assume you're burning gasoline and care about going fast.
Electrics don't burn gas and effortlessly go faster than whatever loud gas-burner you're on about.
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The sounds and smells and rumble are half the fun on my cars and motorcycles....
It's not ALL about absolute performance....I buy and drive for fun.
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How do you come to the stupid idea that manufacturing an BEV costs more CO2 than manufacturing an ICE vehicle?
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One word: data.
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So the lack of supporting data leads to stupid ideas?
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There's plenty of data to support what I said.
Then it would be common knowledge and not only in your mind.
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One word: data.
One word: citation?
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That data has already been shared with angel'osphere several times, along with the relevant sources/citations.
He is a denialist. He can't even acknowledge that Germany CO2 emissions per kWh are 8-9 times greater than those of their french neighbors (one source: https://www.nowtricity.com/ [nowtricity.com], you can find a lot more with a simple search).
On the topic at hand (EV/BEV manufacturing emitting more CO2 than ICE cars manufacturing), this is a known fact, for which data is easily available (literally a google search
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I live in New Orleans and for most of the year I long for days of 70's and low 80's....
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Assuming a US average for CO2 for electricity, and assuming (by the same token) that manufacturing also happens in the US, it's less than two years.
By looking at year ‘0’ we see that manufacturing a battery is costly: the EV emits more than the fossil car during production.
As soon as you start driving, EVs start to pay back their carbon ‘debt’ quickly. In fact, after just two years of driving, EVs are already better [sustainabi...umbers.com].
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The efficiency of an electric engine (>90%) far beats the efficiency of an ICE (~30%), so much so that even with electricity 100% from coal, over their lifetime (save an accidental premature death) EVs are more CO2 efficient than ICE vehicles. Also, they emmit less than half the micro particles as >90% of the braking is done with regeneration, not using the brakes.
That said, if you drive a 2.5 ton SUV, even electric, you pollute like hell. On a Fiat 500, or equivalent, things start to take a better tu
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I have doubts because my understanding is the batteries aren't typically manufactured here
The batteries aren't typically manufactured in the US. China produces more than ten times what the US does.
My claim wasn't that batteries are likely to be manufactured in the US. The assumption was to give an instance of the calculation of payback time. If you want to convert to China manufactured batteries, there will be a lot of nuances, but the carbon intensity of energy generation there is slightly less than 1.5 times that in the US. Using that factor, you're still well under 3 years.
Where did you
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That "fact" quoted by you, I'm gonna call. There are numerous false reports and "studies" circulating which make that same claim however, pretty much all are funded by the fossil fuel dependent industry to try and prolong their lives. It misses the point that:
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Well, considering that Slashdot has always been a US centric site, you should be used to this by now...
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Since no-one bothered with a link, here is one: https://www.visualcapitalist.c... [visualcapitalist.com]
What sticks out is that "Fuel/electricity production" is the highest emissions source of EVs. This will improve on average for EVs as electricity production decarbonizes, while ICEs are more or less stuck as where they are now.
It also shows that manufacturing EVs produces under 50% more emissions that manufacturing ICEs, and that's really the battery manufacturing emissions. That's about 3 year's worth of the running emissions
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Or we could charge on, full speed ahead, secure in the knowledge that increasing wealth disparity means a small percentage of the human population will do just fine in the best available spots on the planet with the finest technology to replace all us filthy poors.
And then, as billions die off (and kept out of view while doing it!), it'll be a lot easier to reduce global CO2 emissions while still having those remaining people not having to sacrifice a damn thing.
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Or we could charge on, full speed ahead, secure in the knowledge that increasing wealth disparity means a small percentage of the human population will do just fine in the best available spots on the planet with the finest technology to replace all us filthy poors.
And then, as billions die off (and kept out of view while doing it!), it'll be a lot easier to reduce global CO2 emissions while still having those remaining people not having to sacrifice a damn thing.
While I don't disagree with your premise in the least, what's the alternative? It's not like the people with actual power are scrambling to change literally ANYTHING about the world at large. It seems the basic argument always boils down to, "Suffer harder poors, so that you may survive a little longer in misery." It's awfully hard to take any call to arms for the common man very seriously when they inevitably come from some suit that's flying around the world on private jets to meet up with other guys in s
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It's awfully hard to take any call to arms for the common man very seriously when they inevitably come from some suit that's flying around the world on private jets to meet up with other guys in suits to nod and tell us all to cut back on our consumption as they eat the finest fresh foods flown in overnight from around the world.
Numerically, I'd bet you anything that the vast majority of people advocating for reduced consumption come from the (and I say this lovingly) granola-munching, hemp-wearing environmentalists than from the private-jet-flying, power-wielding suits. If your primary concern is the source of the 'call to arms', do you find their case persuasive?
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It's awfully hard to take any call to arms for the common man very seriously when they inevitably come from some suit that's flying around the world on private jets to meet up with other guys in suits to nod and tell us all to cut back on our consumption as they eat the finest fresh foods flown in overnight from around the world.
Numerically, I'd bet you anything that the vast majority of people advocating for reduced consumption come from the (and I say this lovingly) granola-munching, hemp-wearing environmentalists than from the private-jet-flying, power-wielding suits. If your primary concern is the source of the 'call to arms', do you find their case persuasive?
I know more than a few granola munching, hemp-wearing environmentalists that are all rolling their eyes at these massive global conferences over climate change because the loudest voices at these things are always from the biggest polluters and global users. I do think we should do what we can to curb emissions. I don't think all the commoners living an even more austere existence is going to stop our runaway bullshit spew from the top.
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Well, the earth will.
We, likely, won't.
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Most calcium carbonate in rocks has come from the oceans, such as from corals. Warming oceans seems to be killing corals and their carbon fixing.
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https://xkcd.com/1732/ [xkcd.com]
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Time to get a heat pump. At least that way we're sucking some of the heat out of the atmosphere to warm our homes rather than burning gas to make even more heat.
Yes, the electricity might not be very green - true, but that's a solvable problem, and is getting solved.
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Where does the heat go once itâ(TM)s in your house?
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That's great and all but without China and India agreeing making real changes, none of the climate policies matter.
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The current evidence shows that China is producing far more pollution than the US does. Just look at all the major cities in China with the amount of air pollution they have. You can't even see the sky in many situations. China continues to build new coal fire plants where the US is moving more and more towards gas which is an improvement over coal. Not to mention trying to get real data out of China is impossible. For example their economy is bad shape due to the fallout from their real estate market. In a
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These worrying signs demand urgent action on a global scale.
I am guessing you didn't get the memo: Your ideas don't matter and nobody fucking cares. We are on the course we are on and nobody who can do anything about wants to do anything about it, so here we are.
You should spend your time trying to figure out how to live on an oxygenless planet because once the phytoplankton dies off, the cycle that creates oxygen for us to breathe will be gone.
On the bright side, you can do what everyone else is doing and just tell yourself that you will be dead before it gets THAT
Freight train (Score:3)
Huge chunks of the world will change in ways that make the 1900s look like a picnic.
We’re boned. As a species, we blew it on this one. We’re not facing extinction, but future generations will study this as an object lesson. Lesson 1: what we do has planetary consequences. Lesson 2: ignoring the scientists is a f&*king bad idea.
Delayed effects (Score:2)
Don't forget that even if we do actually "fix it" there will still be at least a good decade of delayed effects of the damage causing temperature increases and other types of disturbances globally.
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I should have included this in the parent post, but to be clear, I think that there's a real risk of the "delayed" nature of some of the tie-on effects of global warming to even cause direct disturbances in the conversation of whether we're even actually fixing anything, when we do fix it.
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This freight train is gonna hit us full speed and we haven’t bothered to do a damn thing about it. .
With respect, no. It will hit us like a 250-car freight train loaded with hoppers of depleted uranium moving at two miles an hour.
Climate change is slow, very slow, but has a lot of momentum.
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This freight train is gonna hit us full speed and we haven’t bothered to do a damn thing about it. We’ve broken every temperature record, multiple times, for years straight, and CO2 emissions are STILL climbing....Huge chunks of the world will change in ways that make the 1900s look like a picnic.
So your life is collapsing in to ruin then? We will donate if you need help.
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When you can't respond with an argument, use insults
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It's down to selfishness and greed.
We have solutions to all these problems. Solutions that are better than the alternatives. Cheaper, cleaner, more convenient.
People will still find every excuse not to adopt them, and to slow deployment as much as possible. NIMBYism, big oil, "owning the libs", all it does is screw up the planet and make people poorer.
It's not just about the climate, it's about preserving the existing profit centres and power structures. If everyone can make their own electricity at home, a
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This freight train is gonna hit us full speed and we haven’t bothered to do a damn thing about it.
Well, we've emoted, used the issue for political purposes, pretended that we are going to de-industrialize, and blamed and preened. So there's that!
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This freight train is gonna hit us full speed and we haven’t bothered to do a damn thing about it.
Well, we've emoted, used the issue for political purposes, pretended that we are going to de-industrialize, and blamed and preened. So there's that!
Don't forget carbon credits. Because gamifying and credit-playing a planetary need is making a HUGE difference.
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Greenland, Arctic and Antarctic ice free, meaning 60-80 meters of sea level rise.
Jesus Christ man, take a breath and calm down. Stress can kill people, and you're going to need to be calm as sloth high on weed to live the 1000+ years to see that level of rise. Heck you're going to need to be that calm to see the 3-7m rise expected as an absolute worst case scenario in 300 years from now.
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You know that guy at work who repeatedly shoots himself in the foot? The one who makes colossally bad life decisions, one after another? And then just can’t fi
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Hey, as long as things don't blow up before I'm done with my time on the planet....what do I care?
Fair point, since you don't intend to procreate we'll all be better off I think.
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There is no freight train. You've been fooled. You can always figure it out if you think about it.
1) If you pay certain people a whole bunch of money they'll solve the "crisis." July 4, 1776 was a very hot day. So nothing new.
2) The 1930s was the hottest decade of the 1900s though temperatures in datasets show the 1930s wasn't as hot as it was. This can be confirmed by the fact Dr. Hansen had to admit he was wrong in the 2000s when he claimed the 1990s was the hottest. He claimed it was a Y2K bug that cause
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Earth was far warmer during medieval times,
Europe was slightly warmer during the medieval warm period than the average before the 20th century, but no, we are well above that temperature now.
and warmer yet during ancient Roman times.
Europe was slightly warmer during the Roman warm period than the average before the 20th century, but no, we are well above that temperature now.
Try this one for a reference: https://boris.unibe.ch/132301/... [unibe.ch]
or if that's too much detail, the Wikipedia articles summarize both: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
What caused warming them before we even had an industrial civilization? Slashdot should rename itself the "Climate Bullshit Blog for Ignorant & Fearful Snowflakes."
There are many
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Both were global.
At least they spanned Europe, Asia and Africa. About the Americas and Australia, we have no records.
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Actually, we do. Trees keep a pretty good record on climate information, so does ice. And we have both such records.
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For Asia and Africa we have written notes from eye witnesses.
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Ask any judge, factual evidence trumps eyewitness statement.
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Trump has nothing to do with the discussion
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True. That's why it was written with a lowercase t.
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Just... why? Why the fuck would any journal intentionally do this? Instead of looking back and forth maybe a page to see what "figure 28" is, you're basically required to open two copies at once.
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Slashdot should rename itself the "Climate Bullshit Blog for Ignorant & Fearful Snowflakes."
Ah, the arrogance of ignorance.
Climate change isn't as hard to understand for nerds as you think.
Increasing the concentration of greenhouse gasses has [noaa.gov]increased the greenhouse effect [nasa.gov].
And that's all there is to it.
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The greenhouse effect is literally grade school level science. More greenhouse gasses means a warmer planet. Scientists first realised this over 100 years ago. It is easy to reproduce in a scientific experiment, and it is also easy prove that it is happening to our planet because we can read a bloody thermometer.
The science involved in determining what this means for the planet is much more complicated. Climate change is a really big topic that we're still learning about and finding many surprises. However,
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Just as the tobacco industry did for the smoking-cancer link for so many years.
It has been pointed out that the fossil fuel industry isn't just using the same playbook, they're using the same PR groups. The George C Marshall institute [wikipedia.org] was create to do apply the tobacco strategy to climate change, and used the same scientists, despite the field being dissimilar. Including the late Frederick Seitz [fhttps].
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The analyses posted completely ignore the 2022 Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption, which increased the amount of the greenhouse gas water-vapor in the stratosphere by more than 10% in just one day. And, stratospheric circulation being as it is, that water vapor has a residence time of years.
That volcano-induced greenhouse effect is the largest cause of global warming over the last three years.
The Post, in their incompetent political correctness, ignores this.
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The analyses posted completely ignore the 2022 Hunga Tonga volcanic eruption, which increased the amount of the greenhouse gas water-vapor in the stratosphere
But somehow it has not emitted any sulfur dioxide?
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We won't need to spend as much on heating our homes. That's awesome! I know in San Diego this was a pretty mild winter. Last year was much colder. I'm imaging if this trend continues for the year, summer is going to be a real scorcher!
To bad we don't design our buildings with more insulation and better climate control that doesn't require excessive electricity use. Of course, if we did that, the poor electric company wouldn't make as much money. Can't have THAT!