Florida Bans Lab-Grown Meat 191
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill this week banning and criminalizing the manufacture and sale of lab-grown meat in the state. From a report: The legislation joins similar efforts from three other states -- Alabama, Arizona and Tennessee -- that have also looked to stop the sale of lab-grown meat, which is believed to still be years away from commercial viability. "Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals," DeSantis said. "We will save our beef."
Lab-grown meat, also known as cultivated meat, has attracted considerable attention in recent years as startups have raised millions of dollars to improve the technology meant to create a climate-friendly alternative to traditional meat sources. Cultivated meat is usually grown in a metal vessel from a sample of animal cells. They multiply in a container called a bioreactor while being fed with water, amino acids, vitamins and lipids -- a process that can be difficult to do at scales large enough to create enough food for commercial sale. Still, some companies have made strides, with two California startups receiving approval from U.S. regulators last year to sell lab-grown chicken. Those companies said Florida's bill stifles innovation in a space that is becoming competitive globally.
Lab-grown meat, also known as cultivated meat, has attracted considerable attention in recent years as startups have raised millions of dollars to improve the technology meant to create a climate-friendly alternative to traditional meat sources. Cultivated meat is usually grown in a metal vessel from a sample of animal cells. They multiply in a container called a bioreactor while being fed with water, amino acids, vitamins and lipids -- a process that can be difficult to do at scales large enough to create enough food for commercial sale. Still, some companies have made strides, with two California startups receiving approval from U.S. regulators last year to sell lab-grown chicken. Those companies said Florida's bill stifles innovation in a space that is becoming competitive globally.
Running for President in 2028 (Score:5, Insightful)
Ron DeSantis is positioning himself for a Presidential run in 2028. All his political moves should be viewed with that in mind.
He has no idea whether lab-grown meat is good or bad but he knows this will appeal to a certain section of the Republican base.
Re:Running for President in 2028 (Score:5, Funny)
Ron DeSantis is positioning himself for a Presidential run in 2028. All his political moves should be viewed with that in mind. He has no idea whether lab-grown meat is good or bad but he knows this will appeal to a certain section of the Republican base.
Ya, but in many ways, and ironically here, Ron himself is all hat, no cattle. :-)
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DeSantis recently passed legislation ...
Technically, the Florida Congress passed it, he just signed it. Change the political make up of either and Florida changes -- probably for the better.
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Pretty well known in Florida that with Republicans having the trifecta it's pretty much rubber stamps all around.
Florida while always being close will likely be red for a few more cycles at least. Shifting demographics should be in favor of making things closer but the Florida Democratic party is very ineffective in my opinion.
Re: Running for President in 2028 (Score:2)
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, Ron DeSantis recently passed legislation to re-enforce the fact that squatters have NO "rights" when they try and pull that shit in a Florida home.
What does this have to do with lab grown meat?
Re:Running for President in 2028 (Score:4, Insightful)
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he knows this will appeal to a certain section of the Republican base.
You might call it... red meat for his potential voters
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Nah, Ron had his chance, he'll never get the hype cycle he had this cycle as he's had 6 years of being in the press around Florida. His campaign fizzled out not just because of Trump but because DeSantis is really just a goober and that was obvious once he got on a national stage.
In 2028 he will have been a private citizen for 2 years unless he runs for the House again as both FL Senate seats are Republican and neither of them are going to retire soon. Ron's stuck, he can't run to the right of Trump and r
Yet another loss of freedom (Score:3, Insightful)
Here in the land of the free, we don't like people to have choices. So, here is yet another law taking a choice away from the consumer, and dressing it up as some noble fight against an evil government.
This is just protectionism for the rich and powerful meat industry. They can stay comfortable in their cartel without fear of a new tech disrupting their business model now, and we have to go without an option that we might prefer, once it materializes.
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The writing is on the wall for Beef, Pork and Chicken
Beef, primarily because of the extensive waste of land and Greenhouse gas emissions. Pork and Chicken aren't far behind, but will likely be phased out longer since "bacon" and "chicken" are basically the only food children and adults with taste palettes of children will eat.
Fish is unlikely to ever become a lab-grown meat, because it's literately more cost effective to build an aquarium and farm the fish, what will likely happen is "fish farms" will be pr
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...There is no way for lab beef/pork/chicken to tastes like the animal flesh unless it's grown from cells of that animal...
That's the whole point of lab-grown meat: real meat grown from cells, as opposed to the plant-based substitutes now on the market. If the cost can be brought down, I can see it succeeding even in its present form, which because it has no bones is like ground beef.
His political career is done (Score:2, Insightful)
He pissed off and shit on a ton of his own people when he was trying to secure the nomination for this year. In particular he had 300 million dollars in federal funding that he blocked in order to punish people who voted against allowing him to run while remaining governor.
DeSantis is a scary ass
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Ron, a fellow Republican wants to know: Why not let consumers make up their own minds? Back in the Goldwater-Reagan days, before conspiracy theorists and the abortion Taliban, we used to let the free market decide such things.
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Saying that they have "no rights" is flatly unconstitutional. Saying they had no right to stay, or not right not to be arrested would be reasonable. But the first is a stronger political statement.
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I was specifically addressing the nonsensical concept of âoesquatters rightsâ, which should not exist in any American state
If there's one place squatters' rights should exist, it's a nation that was founded on the top of a bunch of other nations and is all stolen land (since the USA has honored literally zero of the treaties it signed with native nations.)
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What a random thing to bring up that he supported some insignificant law. Not really helping your case since all states have laws about this already
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Florida already had laws too. The law in question just increases the penalties and opens the door for landlords to say a lease agreement is fake so that they can have tenants evicted and arrested.
Re:Running for President in 2028 (Score:4, Insightful)
Well that sounds like something that'll get abused. Leave it to Florida to always do the wrong thing I guess
Re: Running for President in 2028 (Score:5, Funny)
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Yet.
nazi said what? (Score:2)
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In fact though, the bill was promoted mainly by the cattle industry, not as a reaction to some mythical culture wars.
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The "global elite" are doing quite well with the food system as it is.
When a change comes along to disrupt entrenched interests, you can bet those interests will try to pin it on shadowy "global elites" as a scare tactic.
If the guys who've bought all the agricultural industry and land aren't global elites, I don't know who is. Funny those are the same guys trying to scare everyone away from artificial meat.
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There is a whole conspiracy that the "elite" want people to eat bugs and "fake" meat so they can control the content of their food, and make them incapable of independent thought. Similar to the low-protein gruel they feed to Homer in the cult episode of "The Simpsons".
We could grasp the fact that the Medial Industrial Complex is every bit as powerful as the Military Industrial Complex in America and understand that no matter what the food alternative is, the goal of making you less healthy isn't some kind of Simpsons conspiracy.
Or, we could just ask why society half-assed that "elite" food conspiracy and didn't just go full tilt Soylent Green.
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There is a whole conspiracy that the "elite" want people to eat bugs and "fake" meat so they can control the content of their food, and make them incapable of independent thought.
My favourite part about this conspiracy is that it is most often pedalled by people who buy pre-packaged processed instant food from the supermarket and have never even heard of the word "farmers market". My second favourite part about it is that regardless of how healthy you think you are, your "global elite" famers are doing all sorts of shit to your food before you get it, spraying it with chemicals, feeding it drugs, heck even watching it with chlorine, etc. etc.
If the global elite wanted to control you
Re: nazi said what? (Score:2)
You can be first to eat a caterpillar steak or whatever
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Nah. People have been eating bugs ever since before they were people. Making a dietary staple when there were alternatives would be something new, though.
OTOH, shirmp and crayfish can be thought of as essentially large bugs. And there are those that recommend fresh termites. (Mostly, admittedly, Chimps, but a few of those who study them.)
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True. In my last life when I was a bird, I ate bugs.
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Re: nazi said what? (Score:3, Interesting)
I was in Mexico City a few weeks back and had a pizza type dish that was loaded with nicely fried crickets. Among the more tasty (and filling) meals I have had in quite awhile.
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I had a casserole recently with an enormous amount of insect parts, but that's a failure of the FDA inspection, and the incredible number of insect parts per million allowed in certain foods.
Some of use don't want insects, but respect your rights to enjoy them.
But there's no freedom of choice in this legislation, just political posturing, the need for domination rather than live-and-let-live.
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Take your meds, Rhonda
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looking to protect Florida citizens health apart from the bullshit and lies related to the "benefits" of eating fake meat by banning it?
Something something free market economy? Nobody has to buy it, but banning has consequences.
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looking to protect Florida citizens health apart from the bullshit and lies related to the "benefits" of eating fake meat by banning it?
Something something free market economy? Nobody has to buy it, but banning has consequences.
Banning cigarette ads had consequences too. Stop pretending consequences are always a bad thing and maybe instead read the various ingredients representing a “nutritional” label on that stuff they’re wanting to call “meat”, from the industry wanting to ban owning cows. And eventually will attack the right to own personal farms for the same reason too. Yeah. I agree. Banning DOES have consequences.
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Was it the part where a Florida Governor was looking to protect Florida citizens health
In what way? Be specific now. And try to stay on topic, god knows why you even brought up the things you did in the rest of your post. Are you his personal press secretary? Gunning for a job at Fox and Friends?
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So why hasn't he protected the state from Jewish space lasers, or chemtrails? Why isn't he passing out tin foil hats already?
Re:nazi said what? (Score:5, Insightful)
He would be perfectly in his role banning some food invoking health concerns, or the need to protect his State's cattle economy. But the argument he invokes about a global conspiracy is insane. The guy is either talking in incredible bad faith, or ripe for the padded room.
Besides, the head of one of the richest States within the world's richest country complaining about a global elite conspiracy is hilarious. This guy literally IS the global elite. Also complaining about other people's unspecified "authoritarian goals" while literally banning things is a "Mote and the Beam" re-enactment.
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Sorry, but what part of a Governors job description do you not understand?
Was it the part where a Florida Governor was looking to protect Florida citizens health apart from the bullshit and lies related to the "benefits" of eating fake meat by banning it?
Was it the part where a Florida Governor was looking to protect Florida citizens from squatters taking homeowners homes and dignity by enforcing laws against that illegal behavior?
Or was it the part where a Florida Governor was looking to protect Florida children from being exposed to sexual reading material in school libraries that isn't even allowed to be read to adults in PTA meetings?
Tell me again how an illegal open border crisis pouring across every other border, somehow isn't a problem driven by authoritarians.
Put your colored politics aside for a moment and you just might just see what a Governor is supposed to be doing for their constituency. Exactly what Ron DeSantis is doing.
Nothing about this meat is fake. It's actual animal protein. You don't even know what you're talking about.
Free Market (Score:5, Insightful)
Why does DeSantis hate the free market? If lab grown meat is so disgusting then consumers won't buy it and the problem takes care of itself.
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Why does DeSantis hate the free market? If lab grown meat is so disgusting then consumers won't buy it and the problem takes care of itself.
The second part is obviously true, but you can't confuse him with facts and logic. Guessing he loves business, property and sales taxes more -- noting that FL doesn't have personal income taxes. According to Cattle in Florida [floridabeef.org] there are a *bunch* of ranchers in Florida, presumably on a lot of land.
Today, there are more than 886 thousand head of cattle and 15,000 beef producers throughout Florida. Currently, Florida ranks 13th in overall cattle numbers nationwide. The three top ranking counties for cattle are Okeechobee, Highlands, and Osceola counties. Cash receipts from cattle and calf sales totaled over $546 Million.
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Republicans haven't been pro free-market or fiscal conservatives for decades now. They've realized they can get more votes from uneducated (and usually poor) people with scare tactics. You don't have to prove you are right to get those votes, because your voter is not discerning.
It's a common misconception (Score:3)
The core value of the right wing is obedience. You obey people above you because they're better than you and in exchange for that people below you obey you. It's all about obedience. This goes all the way back to the origins of the right wing when they were monarchists sitting in the literal right wing of the French assembly.
Once you understand that everything the right wing does makes sense. Especially how
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Why does DeSantis hate the free market? If lab grown meat is so disgusting then consumers won't buy it and the problem takes care of itself.
Because no one actually cares about markets.
The left cares about creating equality. You think Communist revolutionaries (the ideological ones, not the power grabbers) cared about economic theory? They thought they were having a revolution in favour of equality (spoiler alert: didn't work out so well). The anti-free market stuff was because markets allowed a lot of power to accumulate with the rich, but the modern left as figured out that it's far better to work with and regulate free markets than to try and
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Wall street owns the bi-partisan consensus. A candidate they like is going to win either way. Wall street doesn't care about who uses what bathroom, or how easy it is to get an abortion, or how big the clip is on your AK-47. Wall street isn't making Trump win, but wall street really doesn't care if he does or not. He's just as good for them as any of the other "electable" candidates.
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Trump is winning because of votes from people living in trailer parks, not because of donations from Wall Street. DeSantis wants to be the next Trump.
There's a lot of mythology around who Trump voters are. Part of it is that statistics can be confusing, especially if you're prone to jump to conclusions. Yes Trump wins the voters without a college degree, and people without college degrees tend to make less money, but we can't leap to the conculsion that Trump voters are poor. In fact, data shows Trump lost the $50k and under income group solidly in both 2016 and 2020. In 2016 he won every income group greater than $50k, although only *strongly* in
Translation (Score:2)
DeSantis said. "We will save our beef."
We will save our ranchers -- and the supporting industries.
I don't know much about the beef industry in Florida, but Cattle in Florida [floridabeef.org] notes:
Today, there are more than 886 thousand head of cattle and 15,000 beef producers throughout Florida. Currently, Florida ranks 13th in overall cattle numbers nationwide. The three top ranking counties for cattle are Okeechobee, Highlands, and Osceola counties. Cash receipts from cattle and calf sales totaled over $546 Million.
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In the end, it all comes down to the corn lobby. Quick Gewgle Foo shows 40 percent of US corn is used as cattle feed. Ethanol MOVE OVER!
Mythbusters: Plausible.
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That would mean Florida produces around 3-4% of the US beef and has 7% or so of the US population. Not even enough beef to come close to feeding their own population, so they must be a net importer of beef. And assuming that the Florida beef mostly uses corn from outside the state, even more of the money for beef leaves the state.
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We will save our ranchers -- and the supporting industries.
From what? You think Lab grown meat which is expected to have an absolute minimum at scale price of *checks notes* $10-20 / lb is going to be a threat to your ranchers currently selling meat wholesale at $3 / lb?
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California has over 5 million head of cattle. We have real cowboys over here, not like those eastern wannabes.
ugh (Score:2, Insightful)
Ah yes the global elites, not like Harvard- and Yale-educated governor of a state. He's just plain simple folks.
I am so sick of these dumbass conservative conspiracy theories.
Never been sicker than after eating Beyond meat (Score:5, Funny)
I ate a 'Beyond Burger' once and man oh man was I sick. Never again will I eat anything like that. Remember Olean chips with the warning on the bag about 'anal oil leakage'? I remember.
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As a non-vegetarian, who eats some meals without meat, the idea of vegetarian meat-like stuff seems weird. I'd far rather have a bowl of lentils than a burger made from lentils trying to be meat. A LOT of fake meat really tastes bad. The old style Garden Burger was just fine, tasted ok, no need to go beyond that. The early fake meat hotdogs were abominations that gave an aftertaste that lasted for many hours. Are there vegetarians that want to taste meat? What's wrong with traditional meat less diets?
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Beyond Burger isn't very good. Or healthy. Impossible Burger tastes better. But Impossible burger isn't healthy either. But neither are covered by this ban, because Beyond and Impossible meats are not meat. The ban is on lab grown meat, not vegetable matter trying to taste like meat. The lab grown meat will likely taste better but it's much harder to make.
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Not the same thing. Impossible burgers are just highly processed veggies.
Lab grown meat is virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. It's real cow cells growing and dividing. There's just no cow brain connected to it said cow meat.
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That does sound kind-a spooky, I suppose. I mean, that's what they do in StarTrek so maybe it's ok... but it does SOUND spooky.
If you give my brother a fruit smoothie (Score:2)
Meanwhile we've both been eating beyond Burger is for months now. And you can buy a bag of sugar-free gummy bears that have a 30% chance of putting you on the toilet for months on end.
A lot of people have problems with certain foods. It's not surprising there's some people who can't eat what's in beyond meats food or the impossible Burger.
Why all the hate? (Score:2)
"Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals," DeSantis said. "We will save our beef."
Come on, nobody with an above-room-temperature IQ takes this statement seriously. And we've already seen that DeSantis has zero appeal outside of Florida. So why not let them play their silly little games there? It's comedy gold!
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It panders to his Qult base. Of course it all falls apart when you ask simple questions.
Specifically who are the "global elite"? What goals do they have? How does eating lab grown meat accomplish these goals? If the "global elite" really wanted to interfere with the food supply then why not just buy up all the cattle ranches? Nobody would ever know. Instead it's a conspiracy theory based on one research paper that noted how farming insects has a smaller carbon footprint than farming cattle. The media repor
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You can pry my steak out of my cold, dead teeth.
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I was curious, so I looked it up. The paper is Oonincx et al.
So the global elite is this guy:
https://scholar.google.com/cit... [google.com]
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Come on, nobody with an above-room-temperature IQ takes this statement seriously.
You shouldn't take DeSantis literally, but certainly should take him seriously.
He is a Trump mini-me, but more competent at getting stuff done, and that is dangerous.
And we've already seen that DeSantis has zero appeal outside of Florida.
DeSantis would've won the Republican nomination if Trump was hit by a bus.
There were some primary elections where he came in third to Trump and Haley, but polls showed that most of the Trump votes would've gone to DeSantis if Trump wasn't on the ballot. In 2028, Trump likely won't be on the ballot.
So why not let them play their silly little games there? It's comedy gold!
People laughed at Trump in 2016.
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DeSantis is competent when backed up by a like minded legislature. He may end up like Trump though, so sure that literally everyone in the world loves him to death that he's unable to deal with the necessary back and forth negotiatoin skills needed for actual governing with a divided electorate.
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See, here's the thing - as weird as this may sound (about Trump), I don't think DeSantis has Trump's oratorical ability or people skills. He's basically a follower, not a leader.
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Trump votes would've gone to DeSantis if Trump wasn't on the ballot. In 2028, Trump likely won't be on the ballot.
In 2028, Trump likely won't be on the planet.
and yet ... solent green any one? (Score:2)
Not Satire (Score:2)
I have no desire to eat lab grown meat and I'm sure most Americans are the same way. However if taste/texture improves so it's not distinguishable AND it's cheaper.. you can bet a significant portion of Americans will change their minds. Our society prefers cheap over quality.
I'd probably never eat a lab grown steak... but lab grown ground beef or g
Global Elite (Score:2)
You've gotta feel bad for Desantis. He's the governor of Florida, a state with 22 million people, which would be the 16th largest economy if it were independent, but he still doesn't consider himself to be part of the "global elite." It must be a pretty small club.
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If there is such a thing as the "global elite", then Trump is absolutely 100% one of the members of it. Maybe not a founding member, though he is old enough to be one.
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He's a legacy. The only way you can be more "global elite" than a multi-billionaire New York real estate mogul denounced for profiteering by Eisenhower is to be that guy's playboy son.
He's just throwing red meat to his base (Score:2)
They demand affirmation as as his campaign fleshes out expect similarly targeted legislation.
Processed (Score:2)
I thought Impossible Meat, Beyond Meat, and the other vegetable-based simulated meats were the ultimate in processed foods. They contain excessive amounts of salt plus chemical flavorings. However, lab-grown meat exceeds them all.
Doctors warn us to avoid eating processed foods. Real meats from steers, pigs, lambs, chickens, et cetera are far less processed than meat simulations.
My brother once asked: "If we are not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?"
authoritarian meat? (Score:2)
Authoritarian meat? The whole thing sounds like an Impossible Nothingburger.
The right acting like the left (Score:2)
The left has been going on about GMO food for years, now the right is doing their version with lab grown meat. Not sure what they are so afraid of, it isn't like it is in any position to surpass natural meat anytime soon. It is anti business also.
Lab Grown Quail Meat Avaliable Now (Score:2)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/20... [abc.net.au]
Personally I love quail and a nice slab of meat sounds great - Bring it on!
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Is there a reason they want to remove the choice?
Because (a) they're the government; (b) they have more guns than you; and (c) pick up that can.
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He has to pretend to be a stupid asshole to win Republican votes.
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Because the cattle ranchers lobbied for the ban.
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Removing lab grown meat removes campaign contributions from the cattle industry. Anyhow, he is just echoing the former alleged president who also sees a global conspiracy to feed people. They aren't sure just how lab grown meat will be used to control people, they don't have to be sure. The spectre of it is enough to frighten the faithful. The paranoid have everything to fear.
Re:Who knows.. (Score:5, Insightful)
One of the selling points of lab meat is you shouldn't need all the stuff farm animals get dosed with to make them healthier despite the conditions in which they're raised, and to make them grow bigger and faster.
The reduced environmental impact and ability to produce the meat in urban centers is nice, too.
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One of the selling points of lab meat is you shouldn't need all the stuff farm animals get dosed with to make them healthier despite the conditions in which they're raised, and to make them grow bigger and faster.
You can buy farmed goods without those extras as well, you just have to pay for the reduced efficiency. If everyone did that you would have to grow more instead of bigger and faster.
Re:Who knows.. (Score:4, Insightful)
One of the selling points of lab meat is you shouldn't need all the stuff farm animals get dosed with to make them healthier despite the conditions in which they're raised, and to make them grow bigger and faster.
Instead, you just get stuff that was added to the lab meat to make those grow bigger and faster, which are new and different chemicals that no one studied and hence assumed safe (until 40 years later and found to cause cancel).
Or did you assume there won't be any chemicals one can add to the lab process that could make the meat grow bigger and faster?
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There are homeless people in Florida too you know.
Re:Who knows.. (Score:5, Insightful)
then I started thinking about aspertame
That's the problem. You are "thinking" about Aspartame based on idiotic Facebook memes but have done nothing to seek out reliable information. If you had, you wouldn't be using it as an example of a dangerous additive.
and realized, wait and see might be better.
Wait and see what? The results from the research that Florida is funding to study the health of vat meat? That won't happen because no research is being funded.
There is no reason to believe that vat meat is less healthy than "real" meat, and that isn't the reason for this ban.
The ban is stupid, and that is the point. DeSantis wants to run for president in 2028 and feels he needs to out-stupid the other candidates. He wants to go overboard in demonstrating his opposition to the green tea and soy latte-drinking, vegan urban intellectual elite. His strategy might work. But political posturing is all this is.
man made food products usually end up in the "causes cancer" category pretty quickly
Get off of Facebook.
Re:Who knows.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Yup. The message here isn't about meat or insects. Those are merely the delivery mechanisms to get the message to your brain. The message is in two parts. (A) The bogeymen ("global elites", whoever they are) are coming; and (B) DeSantis is the only one who can stop them. Whether it's global elites coming for your meat, leftists coming for your gas stoves, or drag queens coming for your children, the Republicans are your only hope. Only they can save you from all the horrors they've pulled out of their collective ass.
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If you live in Florida, Alabama, Arizona, or Tennessee, you don't get to "wait and see." The choice has already been made for you, long before any data has even become available. You can't have lab-grown meat, even if you want it.
This is what it looks like when your country is a "beacon of freedom" to the rest of the world.
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I have no problem at all with them making it and offering it for sale. I have a MASSIVE problem with them calling it meat. Meat is the flesh of animals. Call it anything other than meat and I'm OK with it. But marketing it as meat is just fucking lying. Its already rampant even with frozen dinners. Pressed and formed meat like substance that they somehow still allow to be called beef or pork or whatever. If it is has other ingredients in it other than spices, such as fillers or meat glue it is not just beef
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The original margarine is a better example where "those who know better" made a "heart-healthy" replacement for cow-based butter. Turns out making it out of trans-fats made it far more dangerous than butter.
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and realized, wait and see might be better
That sounds like a good idea. One for the FDA/USDA and most definitely not something some moron politician should be involved in.
but man made food products usually end up in the "causes cancer"
There's a difference between cultured meat and coming up with new chemical compounds for fake foods.
I'm not sure I'd be the first to try this new dish.
You literally cannot be. This stuff is actively sold in some places of the world already.
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The health "benefits" of lab-grown meat, have already been tested and proven. You'll be shocked to find the man-made hamburger is far less healthy for you than the old-fashioned alternative, no thanks to the Medical Industrial Complex lobbying to profit heavily from it.
Do you mean actual lab-grown meat or meat substitutes, like (Impossible|Beyond) Burger, etc...? 'Cause I believe you're correct on the latter that they're, at least, not as healthy(ier) than they claim all around.
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Like when 1950s doctors were promoting cigarettes, back when an ignorant society didn't know any better.
To be fair those were like the cranks who are saying "CO2 is just plant food" right now. Cigarettes were well-known to be harmful by mainstream medicine well before WW2.
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Please cite your sources for these test results. Facebook posts and Fox News do not count.
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Please cite your sources for these test results. Facebook posts and Fox News do not count.
Dare to read a “nutritional” label, or try and pronounce the ingredients on a package of lab-grown meat.
You know you’re blinded by political ignorance when the food label from the manufacturer is viewed as some kind of right-wing conspiracy and not simple fact. You can’t even find a nutritionist who will say lab meat is better for you. If there’s a conspiracy here, it’s yours.
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Just because the cigarette industry pictured doctors recommending smoking in its advertising didn't mean that *all* doctors, or even most thought smoking was healthy for you. This was largely in the 30s and 40s when they took advantage of a positive attitude toward science and particular medical science. They began to pull back from this after 1950 when evidence was mounting for the link between smoking and cancer, for fear of pushback from the medical community.
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FWIW, if we didn't eat chickens there wouldn't be so many of them.