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How Misinformation Spreads? It's Funded By 'The Hellhole of Programmatic Advertising' (wired.com) 66

Journalist Steven Brill has written a new book called The Death of Truth. Its subtitle? "How Social Media and the Internet Gave Snake Oil Salesmen and Demagogues the Weapons They Needed to Destroy Trust and Polarize the World-And What We Can Do."

An excerpt published by Wired points out that last year around the world, $300 billion was spent on "programmatic advertising", and $130 billion was spent in the United States alone in 2022. The problem? For over a decade there's been "brand safety" technology, the article points out — but "what artificial intelligence could not do was spot most forms of disinformation and misinformation..."

The end result... In 2019, other than the government of Vladimir Putin, Warren Buffett was the biggest funder of Sputnik News, the Russian disinformation website controlled by the Kremlin... Geico, the giant American insurance company and subsidiary of Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway, was the leading advertiser on the American version of Sputnik News' global website network... No one at Geico or its advertising agency had any idea its ads would appear on Sputnik, let alone what anti-American content would be displayed alongside the ads. How could they? Which person or army of people at Geico or its agency could have read 44,000 websites?

Geico's ads had been placed through a programmatic advertising system that was invented in the late 1990s as the internet developed. It exploded beginning in the mid 2000s and is now the overwhelmingly dominant advertising medium. Programmatic algorithms, not people, decide where to place most of the ads we now see on websites, social media platforms, mobile devices, streaming television, and increasingly hear on podcasts... If Geico's advertising campaign were typical of programmatic campaigns for broad-based consumer products and services, each of its ads would have been placed on an average of 44,000 websites, according to a study done for the leading trade association of big-brand advertisers.

Geico is hardly the only rock-solid American brand to be funding the Russians. During the same period that the insurance company's ads appeared on Sputnik News, 196 other programmatic advertisers bought ads on the website, including Best Buy, E-Trade, and Progressive insurance. Sputnik News' sister propaganda outlet, RT.com (it was once called Russia Today until someone in Moscow decided to camouflage its parentage), raked in ad revenue from Walmart, Amazon, PayPal, and Kroger, among others... Almost all advertising online — and even much of it on television (through streaming TV), or on podcasts, radio, mobile devices, and electronic billboards — is now done programmatically, which means the machine, not a planner, makes those placement decisions. Unless the advertiser uses special tools, such as what are called exclusion or inclusion lists, the publishers and content around which the ad appears, and which the ad is financing, are no longer part of the decision.

"What I kept hearing as the professionals explained it to me was that the process is like a stock exchange, except that the buyer doesn't know what stock he is buying... the advertiser and its ad agency have no idea where among thousands of websites its ad will appear."
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How Misinformation Spreads? It's Funded By 'The Hellhole of Programmatic Advertising'

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  • I always listen to the White House and the billionaire-owned media for unbiased non-misinformation. Yuperee sir!

  • by OneOfMany07 ( 4921667 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @03:49PM (#64516009)

    https://arstechnica.com/scienc... [arstechnica.com]

    I can attest to one in my life that feels very emotional and judgemental about everybody else, with no chance or expectation to do anything but feel angry and self-riotous.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      [arstechnica.com]

      That's histerical. Using Ars Technica, a leading distributor of dogma driven dis-information, as a source for anything.

      Advertisers are in business to reach consumers. They pay no attention to the content used to attract eyeballs for their advertising. There is nothing new about that. Nor does it cause "bad" content. What causes "bad" content is that it successfully attracts an audience.

      Anyone who buys a product that is advertised pays for the advertising. So it was Gieco customers, not Warrent Buffet, who

      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        Your posts aren't going to raise /. from a third-rate distributor of dogma driven dis-information, no matter how hard you try.

        "If you want to fix the problem, make paid advertising illegal."

        LOL

        • "If you want to fix the problem, make paid advertising illegal."

          LOL

          Yes, that idea is quite retarded*.
          But the other. Or make the publishers responsible for the products they advertise.
          Is what any sensible country would do. Facebook/Twitter/Whatever is pushing scams and defrauding people of billions of dollars. Then make those companies pay up or stop.
          Companies pushing these lies aren't going to care unless someone makes them care.

          * Although it worked quite well for specific sectors like tobacco etc.

      • > Anyone who buys a product that is advertised pays for the advertising.

        Define advertising.

        The reason I bring this up is because there are many kinds of advertising -- paid and unpaid -- across many different types of mediums. i.e. Word of mouth is a form of advertising that is usually free, "Let's Play Videos" are a form of advertising, etc.

        Not ALL ads cost me the consumer to pay for it. Sure it "costs" me time to listen / watch a source but it does not always correlate to who exactly I am "paying".

        If

        • If I buy an advertised product without seeing the ads am I still paying for the ad? Not directly but indirectly? How do you prove this?

          Who do you think is paying for the ad? Do they charge you less for the product because you didn't see the ad on facebook? No.

        • Because only paid advertising has disinformation / propaganda, right?

          That isn't the point of the article. Its that advertising pays for the further spreading of some disinformation. You can't eliminate disinformation unless you are China and then it obviously depends on your definition of what is disinformation. And even China is 100% successful.

      • Of course! that advertiser indifference to content explains why Truth is overloaded with advertiser money right now. /s

      • by Anonymous Coward
        If you prefer a research paper, Ars links to it: https://www.science.org/doi/10... [science.org]
        • I suspect if you include major news organizations, public relations company's earned media and paid advertising, the impact of sharing by elderly women is trivial. But that doesn't fit the dogma.
      • Anyone who buys a product that is advertised pays for the advertising.

        No, we all pay.

    • I can attest to one in my life that feels very emotional and judgemental about everybody else, with no chance or expectation to do anything but feel angry and self-riotous.

      I know her too but I wasn't aware she spread that far.

    • ... feel angry and self-righteous.

      Mums for Liberty and Stop Corrupting our Kids are about censorship, nothing else. It's pregnant women and grannies (ie. formerly-pregnant women) deciding that tweens can't know the truth. Many times, the censorship is not limited to sexual activity and same-sex relationships: Any scene involving romance or intimacy between two people must be hidden from the very people who need role models for romance and intimacy.

  • by Brain-Fu ( 1274756 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @03:50PM (#64516015) Homepage Journal

    Internet-users are well-trained to ignore ads. It's almost completely unconscious. Our eyes skip over and filter out the sections of a page that contain ads. When big in-your-face popup ads appear over the content, we instinctively search the corners for a faded "x", not even processing whatever-it-is on the popup.

    And the more capable among us use ad-blocking software too.

    It's an enormous farce. There were studies posted right here on slashdot demonstrating that these methods are ineffective, and the money spent on them wasted (the exercise of finding those studies is left to the student).

    It's still concerning that American-based companies are spending money that ultimately winds up in the hands of a government that is actively trying to undermine our culture. But it is also darkly humorous that all this money shuffling supports an utterly ineffective form of mass social manipulation.

    • Yeah, bots feeding bots. The computer programs that generate these ad campaigns are responding to the computer programs that correlate and then sell "targeted ad opportunities."

      The question in my mind is "If we can severely curtail the surveillance economy built on extracting and fusing user characteristics from data that the user has not authorized, will this have any real impact on the garbage pit that most websites have become?" I'm particularly bothered by the journalism industry that says they are no

    • "When big in-your-face popup ads appear over the content, we instinctively search the corners for a faded "x", not even processing whatever-it-is on the popup." This is akin to someone dancing around screaming "look at me!" and slapping his hand over the book you are trying to read. Do you want to give this person the kind of attention he is seeking? No. Do you want to punch that person hard in the face? Yes. I don't know how pissing people off in this manner became thought of as an effective advertising s
      • Because it fails on most but they're not showing the ad to a thousand people... they're showing it to hundreds of millions and the few and it costs so little that the few who it works on make it profitable.

        It'll never happen, but what I'd love is a system that requires advertisers to pay me when their ads pop up on my computer. They're using my computer resources, after all; just because I click on a link to Company X's website doesn't mean I have given permission to Company Y to spam me with ads (especial

      • by martin-boundary ( 547041 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @09:36PM (#64516633)
        Up until ~15 years ago, I used to browse the internet with w3m and surfraw in a terminal. It was glorious, clean and fast, used almost no memory and I could copy, paste, and edit text fields with my favourite text editor (name starts with E). No ads, no weird colors and fonts, no timewasting. Webpages rendered to STDOUT were greppable directly in the shell and could be used in bash scripts.

        Then I had to stop using it when Google pushed(*) Javascript requirements on everyone to support their spying operations and online app alternatives (like Gmail) in their constant fight with MIcrosoft. Pretty soon the whole web was all interactive Javascript UI's and ads bolted on the usual static content, 99% fluff for every 1% text content.

        Textise is a step in the right direction, but the root cause is that Google has taken over the HTML standard and turned it into a "living standard" aka "whatever we want when we want". The community can't fight this purely on a technical front because we're always one step behind on the specs. What's really needed at this stage is to break their hold on the engineering standards but I don't know how best to accomplish this.

        (*) like a drug pusher

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      It sure does work. It moves money from the pockets of the companies buying the ads into Googles pockets.

    • Some people like ads. I don't understand these people, but I assume advertisers are targeting those kinds of people.
    • by RossCWilliams ( 5513152 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @08:14PM (#64516495)
      I think you underestimate how much information the advertisers have about the responses to their ads. Those that rely on clickbait measure not only the clicks but how many sales result and where people are lost along the way from click to sale.
      • Yeah at least a few companies are measuring the results of their ad. Even before the internet, they'd use a separate phone number for an ad campaign, and now they can measure in absurd detail. I bet these companies really hate to see their ad on websites that convince people to turn their adblockers off.

  • Muhahaha! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Malay2bowman ( 10422660 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @03:50PM (#64516017)
    "I will take over the world!" Except now that the villain has done just that, he has a major job on his hands. Maintaining a military to keep his subjects under control. Making sure his subjects is at the bare minimum fed, clothes, and housed. And maybe allowed just enough happiness that they won't rise up against him, or that his empire simply won't fall apart. And there is also the constant paperwork, management, etc etc. especially on a world scale. He will have to farm most of his power out to others, reducing him to a mere director. And these types of villains often burn out, become reclusive, and just completely lose their minds where they can't even take proper care of themselves. Years of worrying about enemies without and within does that to people The supervillain life isn't as glamorous as Hollywood makes it out to be.
  • It's actually the opposite. (rinse, repeat)
  • There are tens of thousands of advocacy based organizations, researchers, non-profit employees, PR firms, corporate marketing, government marketing employees whose sole job it spread information giving one side of a discussion, slights against the other possible views in the discussion.

    For example, the well worn and widely reporting on surveys of financial health where there's one survey covering everybody and then a different distinct survey covering half the population.

    That leads to a flood of news articl

  • Why do we think people shouldn't be 'slaves', but manipulating those supposedly free minds is fair game.

    Drugs are bad because they force people to do things they otherwise wouldn't, but hiding the truth and manipulating data is totally no problem in a 'free market'.

    Wonder how society would change if we pointed AI at our hypocrisy? Point out the 'work' that isn't useful, and help us stop it (like all the stupidity that taxes entails, with the tricks only certain people know about or can use). And how our c

  • YouTube can call me a thief but I am not part of the ones sponsoring or funding the ads companies's incompetence.

  • What a tragedy it will be if advertisers cannot ensure people have a positive view of their products. I am serious. Not even joking. Or being sarcastic. Not at all. Really. Good morning.
  • Are they for real because thats an insane amount of money for something that is allmost impossible to quantify the actual return on. I mean do the advertisers still get paid if an ad is displayed on web page and my ad blocker blocks it showing?
    • That's the whole con, silly. Google is one of the biggest companies in the world and their entire revenue stream is based on an ads ecosystem that nobody fucking understands BY DESIGN. Marketers and SEO firms know how to manipulate the system, but at the end if the day, nobody outside of google (maybe even inside of google) can actually quantify the value and effectiveness of their advertising.
  • by penguinoid ( 724646 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @05:15PM (#64516199) Homepage Journal

    Besides that the internet with ads is intolerable, ad-supported crap is fundamentally different, and worse, than it otherwise would be. The internet was fine before this cancer took over. For you young ones who don't remember, there are a few offers in real life of "get this free lunch if you listen to our salesman" -- try and guess how the quality and service compares to a real restaurant. And of course, ad-supported "games". Fundamentally, ads are user-hostile and a form of money-up-front request from strangers -- they get money from your click, possibly after scamming you with a clickbait headline or scamming google with SEO.

    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      For me the problems are: malware (even Google and MS networks spread it), tracking, and lastly performance, the internet is simply a worse experience with ads.
  • ... was social bloody media, he said with bloody social media.

    We are in the midst of a "Greedback loop", a "Feedback loop" we are yet to adapt to. We're greedy for content and contact. Advertisers are greedy for market. Social Media are greedy for the advertising revenue. Content creators are greedy for fame and a slice of the price. It's a whirlpool shit storm of mutual advantage.

    The Arab Spring, Brexit, MAGA, Culture War, Teen Suicide, you can all lay at the door of Social Media. None would have been pos

  • They point the finger at AI, but the real culprit is AD (Insert Scooby doo mask reveal here). Big Tech's trillion dollar market caps funded by terrorists.
  • Also Republicans (Score:4, Informative)

    by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Saturday June 01, 2024 @05:58PM (#64516251)

    This Queen Creek Republican burst into public view in 2020, when he ran an internet troll farm [azcentral.com], paying teens to post conservative talking points and baseless conspiracy theories on social media — all aimed at getting then-President Donald Trump reelected.

    I know it's not popular to point all this out. We're supposed to pretend we're somehow above politics. But who decided that, and why?

    • This Queen Creek Republican burst into public view in 2020, when he ran an internet troll farm [azcentral.com], paying teens to post conservative talking points and baseless conspiracy theories on social media — all aimed at getting then-President Donald Trump reelected.

      I know it's not popular to point all this out. We're supposed to pretend we're somehow above politics. But who decided that, and why?

      Probably the liberal media, which poured much more money and effort into getting Trump elected than the Russians could have hoped to.

      They are unable to blame themselves, so they blame tech or foreign nations or all of us mere plebes.

      • I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Every single media outlet is owned by a right-wing extremist. I think it would be naive to consider the billionaires that own all of our media has anything else but that.

        I get that you're trolling but it's not 1995 anymore and nobody believes the media has a liberal bias except a handful of the deepest of the deep in the Trump cult. You're just making yourself look silly.

        On the other hand you probably know this site has a limited amount of mod points so that
        • In any case, in the modern internet era, it's silly to consider the media as a monolithic entity. The "big three" are mere shadows of their former selves, afterthoughts to most of us. (I don't know if Fox News is liberal or not, I haven't watched it in years. Same with CNN.)
        • Or you could just be one of those crazy ass Trump cultists. Somebody who thinks that he's the second coming of Christ.

          It's you and yours who have the weird, and I mean weird, obsession with Trump.

          I've read some of the stuff that you imagine his pragmatic voters are thinking ... that's some weird stuff man. And it came out of your own id, lol, not ours.

    • ... Queen Creek Republican ...

      Is there something in the water in Arizona: No sex education, no abortions, 'stolen' election conspiracies and MAGA policies so worthless, even Arizona is voting against it.

      I get it; the rich, white, Christian, English-speaking US-ians no longer decide the policies for government. So, a bunch of self-important arseholes are voting for another self-important arsehole, who cares about their lack of importance: Anyone see the mistake in their plan?

      ... we're somehow above politics.

      Government is meant to be by us and for us. Until we reac

    • This Queen Creek Republican burst into public view in 2020, when he ran an internet troll farm [azcentral.com], paying teens to post conservative talking points and baseless conspiracy theories on social media — all aimed at getting then-President Donald Trump reelected.

      I know it's not popular to point all this out. We're supposed to pretend we're somehow above politics. But who decided that, and why?

      lol, ok. I see plenty of ads showing over at CNN, MSN, CBS, and every other place where they are celebrating the, er, defense of democracy (the success of trumped up BS charges against political opponents).

      So is that "funding misinformation"? Or is only The Party [wikipedia.org] allowed to make money by running ads?

  • So the payload for this piece of scareflurry is that we should support a law which allows the government to restrict advertising based on the political bent of the medium presenting the advertisement. Am I reading that right?
  • They're a "brand safety" organisation, at https://checkmyads.org/ [checkmyads.org]

    They catch organisations like Sputnik News and notify the advertisers, so they can drop the ad exchanges that are placing ads on pages that are on the advertisers' blacklists. I think they're cool...

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