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Biden Administration Provides $504 Million To Support 12 Tech Hubs Nationwide (apnews.com) 119

The Biden administration said Tuesday that it was providing $504 million in implementation grants for a dozen technology hubs in Ohio, Montana, Nevada and Florida, among other locations. From a report: The money would support the development of quantum computing, biomanufacturing, lithium batteries, computer chips, personal medicine and other technologies. The Democratic administration is trying to encourage more technological innovation across the country, instead of allowing it be concentrated in a few metro areas such as San Francisco, Seattle, Boston and New York City.

"The reality is there are smart people, great entrepreneurs, and leading-edge research institutions all across the country," Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said in a call previewing the announcement. "We're leaving so much potential on the table if we don't give them the resources to compete and win in the tech sectors that will define the 21st century global economy."

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  • He said it (Score:5, Funny)

    by ichthus ( 72442 ) on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @09:52AM (#64594701) Homepage
    "Today, I approve 504 thousand billion dollars to support 22... or 12, I should say... ... ... tech nubs-hubs nationwide pause."
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

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      • Nothing's more honest than a politician showing you he has no brain activity? Sounds legit.

      • by ichthus ( 72442 )

        And he still sounded more honest and more believable than the gonif he's running against. Hell, he even sounded intelligent (unlike the other guy).

        Reading your comment honestly makes me sad. I understand American society is polarized right now -- you have to like your guy, and HATE the other. There's no room for common ground. But, re-read what you just wrote. You think Biden sounded intelligent? No, I don't think you really do.

        It's sad when people believe it's a win for the other side if you simply

    • Re:He said it (Score:4, Interesting)

      by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @10:56AM (#64594885) Journal

      "Today, I approve 504 thousand billion dollars to support 22... or 12, I should say... ... ... tech nubs-hubs nationwide pause."

      And SCOTUS just crowned him king! Temporary king, I suppose, though it would apparently be legal for him to issue an EO directing the disbursement of federal funds to bribe election officials all over the country to keep him in office regardless of what voters might think. Or perhaps he should just follow through on Justice Sotomayor's suggestion and have SEAL team 6 take out his opponent. As long as he (or his advisors) can spin it as an official act, it's legal. Now that all legal restraints have been removed, the possibilities are endless!

      • the way their ruling works there's plenty of wiggle room for corrupt justices and their $100k RVs (excuse me, "Luxury Motor Coach") to prosecute Biden while letting Trump string Nancy Pelosi up by her toenails.
        • the way their ruling works there's plenty of wiggle room for corrupt justices and their $100k RVs (excuse me, "Luxury Motor Coach") to prosecute Biden while letting Trump string Nancy Pelosi up by her toenails.

          There's nothing in the ruling that provides any different immunity for Trump than for Biden. Though that's not to say they couldn't find some if a Biden prosecution case were appealed to them. IMO, Biden should take full advantage of the freedom to crime and use it to keep Trump out of office, and perhaps incidentally force SCOTUS to reverse much of their immunity ruling.

          • The only thing stopping Biden is that he doesn't want to be King. Florida Felon does.

            • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

              Wow - just wow. He does not want to be King? Then why know as he himself claims to know, he aint what he used to be did even run four years ago, let alone for a second term? Even if he really bought his own 'I am the only one who can beat Donald Trump' bs he's had four years to find an appropriate successor.

              Biden was/is already so senile he has no idea what the stakes really are or his vanity makes Trump look as humble as monk sworn to poverty..

          • It's rsilvergun you're responding to. He lives in a bizarre fantasy world constructed from nonsense he's read from people almost as deluded as himself. I'd like to think he's a troll that just posts this to get other people riled up, but sadly I suspect he genuinely believes most of what he writes, which must mean that he spends most of his day living in the fear of his imagined nightmares.

            If he were rational he should move to to a country like Portugal which has regular been governed by an outright soci
            • I'm fully aware of who rsilvergun is. I disagree with him most of the time, and find his class-war view of the world to be both sad and very distorting. However, I think you're an asshole for stalking him like this, and I completely disagree with your over the top characterization of him. Get a life, dude.
            • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

              I am fairly certain rsilvergun is a SVR operator, that is to incompetent to recognize Slashdot isn't an important forum with influence over the American tech sector it once might have been.

      • yep. But you see, as someone else pointed out SCOTUS left wiggle room so that they can both say it is illegal for Biden to do and perfectly legal for Trump to do.
  • How much of that funding will go straight into corporate coffers rather than being used for what it's supposed to be used for? While I'm sure there's some neat cover stories, if it's anything like most government handouts, 99.99% will end up in giant corporations as part of the executive bonus structure, while the rest will trickle out to accidental bystanders. I have zero faith in our government to direct funding where they're saying it's going to go. Some would say that's a me problem. Some, the observant type, will notice it's simply taking a known track record and projecting it forward.

    • How much of that funding will go straight into corporate coffers rather than being used for what it's supposed to be used for?

      I came here to address this very matter. How about the gov investing that half-a-billion in just two or three "hubs" in which they have a 51% ownership stake?

      That will both encourage smaller companies which aren't yet in full-on rape-and-pillage mode, and scare off some of the big corps which are in it ONLY for the money. It could also be used to ensure development of tech that isn't of the bait-and-switch variety. You know, the kind that moves as fast as possible to full-on proprietary, locked-in, throw-aw

      • How much of that funding will go straight into corporate coffers rather than being used for what it's supposed to be used for?

        I came here to address this very matter. How about the gov investing that half-a-billion in just two or three "hubs" in which they have a 51% ownership stake?

        That will both encourage smaller companies which aren't yet in full-on rape-and-pillage mode, and scare off some of the big corps which are in it ONLY for the money. It could also be used to ensure development of tech that isn't of the bait-and-switch variety. You know, the kind that moves as fast as possible to full-on proprietary, locked-in, throw-away, and subscription-only models that are strangling the world just now.

        Any fool can promote "innovation" by throwing somebody else's money at it, as the Biden administration is doing here. Only thoughtful, sensible, dedicated people will come up with ways to ensure that the money truly benefits the taxpayers who provide it. And no, I don't count big corporations among 'taxpayers' - their cost externalization results in a net negative balance when it comes to society's bookkeeping.

        Good luck convincing any modern administration that the government / taxpayer get something for investing in private business. They've lived too long with the idea of all tax money belonging to corporations outright, and the government itself is simply the deciding agent on how to best throw taxpayer money into corporate accounts. I would love for the billions or trillions we throw at these behemoths year after year to result in some return, but that doesn't appear to be the way things are set up, and it do

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    • If I may slightly modify Cat's misstatement above, the US government has no business granting large sums of money to private business entities. While not unconstitutional, it does present the appearance of a cash grab, something more appropriate to a tax-and-spend MAGA socialist. This has boondoggle written all over it.

      Unfortunately, ever since the whole bugaboo of trickle-down economics, our government has been slinging cash as hard as it can at corporations. Not that they didn't before then, but there's some mystical, magical thinking surrounding such handouts since Reagan that really, REALLY sends those numbers soaring. Because if anybody dares to say anything negative about it, they can be met with, "But that money will ultimately be used to pay the American People" and then you can get all shuddering lips and quaking

      • Yet, when has this not happened? One could argue that World War II began this. Or, perhaps, even before that.
      • Unfortunately, ever since the whole bugaboo of trickle-down economics, our government has been slinging cash as hard as it can at corporations. Not that they didn't before then, but there's some mystical, magical thinking surrounding such handouts since Reagan that really, REALLY sends those numbers soaring. Because if anybody dares to say anything negative about it, they can be met with, "But that money will ultimately be used to pay the American People" and then you can get all shuddering lips and quaking breaths while declaring the sanctity of the glorious corporations and they generous spirits of cooperation in helping keep people taken care of, housed, clothed, fed.

        The simple response to that argument is to point out that in such schemes the money "used to pay the American People" came from those same people in the first place. Then point out that friction in that transaction has worn an original taxpayer's dollar down to a significantly smaller sum. Next, give beyond-government-handout examples of corporate cost externalization - global warming, pollution, increased deaths, various forms of addiction, bringing in people from other companies to take American jobs, etc

    • If you can get other countries to not aid their own companies and industries, I'd tend to agree. China and computer/switch help, battery help, you name it help, Airbus vs Boeing, et cetera.

      Meanwhile, why not spread the tech hubs around a bit. Why should we concentrate everything in fire, earthquake, volcano, tsunami, or hurricane prone areas of the country? Yes some of those risks (or alternative tornado) exist in other places. But tech is really centralized in just a few spots. With high speed internet an

    • If I may slightly modify Cat's misstatement above, the US government has no business granting large sums of money to private business entities. While not unconstitutional, it does present the appearance of a cash grab, something more appropriate to a tax-and-spend MAGA socialist. This has boondoggle written all over it.

      You don't say. https://www.forbes.com/sites/s... [forbes.com]

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      If I may slightly modify Cat's misstatement above, the US government has no business granting large sums of money to private business entities.

      Says the individual posting a comment on the Internet.

  • by echo123 ( 1266692 ) on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @10:32AM (#64594805)

    The US Federal Government is funding Research & Development for various technologies across the country. It's an investment in the US' global economic and technological competitiveness. Such investments are best spent by our government than haphazardly by billionaires when/if they feel personally motivated.

    — $41 million for the Elevate Quantum Tech Hub [eda.gov] in Colorado and New Mexico. They have a website. [elevatequantum.org]

    — $41 million for the Headwaters Hub [eda.gov] in Montana. They have a website. [headwaterstechhub.com]

    — $51 million for Heartland BioWorks [eda.gov] in Indiana

    — $51 million for the iFAB Tech Hub [eda.gov] in Illinois

    — $21 million for the Nevada Tech Hub [eda.gov]

    — $40 million for the NY SMART I-Corridor Tech Hub [eda.gov] in New York

    — $44 million for ReGen Valley Tech Hub [eda.gov] in New Hampshire

    — $45 million for the SC Nexus for Advanced Resilient Energy [eda.gov] in South Carolina and Georgia.

    — $19 million for the South Florida ClimateReady Tech Hub [eda.gov].

    — $51 million for the Sustainable Polymers Tech Hub [eda.gov] in Ohio.

    — $51 million for the Tulsa Hub for Equitable & Trustworthy Autonomy [eda.gov] in Oklahoma. They have a website. [tulsainnovationlabs.com]

    — $51 million for the Wisconsin Biohealth Teach Hub. [eda.gov] They have a website. [bioforward.org]

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by echo123 ( 1266692 )

      The Trump Administration's science policies are horrible anti-science and 'investment' must come with a bribe. And heaven forbid you live in a blue state.

      USDA Research Agencies 'Decimated' By Forced Move [npr.org]

      Trump famously chose not to support this critical piece of 'blue state' infrastructure [crainsnewyork.com] out of spite.

      'windmills are killing the whales' [youtube.com]

      'electric boats vs sharks' [youtube.com], (wouldn't the boat electrocute the shark first?!)

      Trump's $1bn pitch to oil bosses 'the definition of corruption'. [theguardian.com]

    • by The Cat ( 19816 )

      The US government has no legal authority to fund research and development. They have no legal authority to invest or otherwise acquire ownership of any private or publicly traded company.

      They are barred by the Ninth and Tenth Amendments from doing those things because it is anti-competitive, unfair, illegal and unconstitutional.

      The US government taxes its citizens, then turns around and uses that revenue to compete with its citizens for loans, securities, education, land, medical care, raw materials, food,

      • The US government has no legal authority to fund research and development. They have no legal authority to invest or otherwise acquire ownership of any private or publicly traded company.

        How do you feel about funding universities? In the links I provided I mostly saw regional university projects. What's wrong with government funding local economic development through universities, (as opposed to no funding of local economic development and no science research)?

        Should we wait for Trump to "bring back coal" [nytimes.com] somehow while otherwise allowing such regions to wither away, while people can't afford to live in Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc.?

    • by t0qer ( 230538 )

      I bet the stock on these places goes up.

  • Boondongle (Score:2, Informative)

    "boondongle", noun. An unnecessary or wasteful project or activity.

    - $43.2 Billion to bring broadband Internet to rural homes. Number of people actually connected after two years: ZERO.
    - $7.5 Billion to install EV superchargers nationwide. Number of charging stations actually built after two years: SEVEN.

    The federal government can't even spend your money well.

  • by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ) on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @10:43AM (#64594851)

    In previous times, this was called "investment", and got us stuff like the Internet. General R&D can pay off with some advance that nobody has ever thought of. For example, who would have thought that a bare bones network to communicate between sites, should nukes go off, would become the foundation of our society today?

    One thing I'd consider doing is not just tech hubs in existing places, but perhaps creating tech hubs where population is low and moving people there would take pressure off other places. This not just helps with distributing population into areas where there are ample resources, but also creates more geographic regions for things like data centers, and if done right, can have transportation designed from scratch to be useful, like rail being one of the main ways to ship cargo and people in and out, as well as multiple highways. If housing was purchased and price ceilings enacted to deter home flippers and company monopolists wanting to buy real estate just to drive prices up, people would flock to an area like that.

    R&D is what we need. We don't need another iPhone every year. We need advances all across the board, and not just immediately profitable things. Stuff like battery tech comes to mind, but other stuff like room temperature superconductivity, wire arrangement to lower voltage loss, cooling of electrical components, or other basic advances can greatly improve quality of life. For example, if we can get something like a Peltier, but a lot more efficient and solid based that has no moving parts, this would revolutionize air conditioning. If we can get neighborhoods to have redundant cooling towers, we could lesson the need for tons of A/C units. Having roof tiles that can do some solar capability, but yet reflect most of the light back can reduce the urban heat island effect.

    There are a ton of small advances, and a ton of things we use that can be improved which are "good enough". R&D can greatly improve things, and bring an overall quality of life improvement.

    Of course, this can reek of "socialism"... but all our enemies have government-supplied R&D which are having massive payoffs. Even Saudi Arabia is becoming a place known for scientific advances because of this. Long term, R&D is what makes countries rich 20 years from now.

    • by The Cat ( 19816 )

      You're implying a false dilemma. We can have R&D without government interference.

      This is nothing more than taking money from one group of people and giving it to another, the implication being the government knows best how money should be spent.

      Well, they don't.

      • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

        You still need the government to prop up necessary yet unprofitable industries to keep those people trained and ready for times of war. Amtrak, nuclear power, tanks, missiles/missile defense etc. Do we NEED 2000 missiles a year in peacetime? No but spinning up a factory takes months to years, and nuclear engineers take up to a decade or more (phd) to train, and they need to be paid well enough to not go into software development. We make like 20 tanks a year and have ~800+ tanks in storage, why keep buying

        • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

          Amtrak?

          WTF do we need Amtrak for? Freight rail sure but we hardly need Amtrak. We can transport troops in boxcar, if we need to move a ton of people from A -> B.

          Amtrak is a is just a massive subsidy for wealthy commuters. It should be shuttered out of public interest if anything.

          • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

            The interstate system (championed by then general eisenhower, after seeing how the germans could move their armies around their country on high quality roads) also lies in military need. Tell me the last time you paid a toll on the interstate highway system. Most airports are run at a loss as well. My sewer pipe doesn't pay for itself either, but if it clogs or breaks I will fix it because it is necessary.

            • by The Cat ( 19816 )

              Tell me the last time you paid a toll on the interstate highway system.

              Last night when I bought gas.

            • Tell me the last time you paid a toll on the interstate highway system.

              Last week when I took I-70 through eastern Kansas. I've also paid tolls on I-90 through New York and Massachusetts, I-40 though Oklahoma and either I-90 or I39 through Illinois.

    • The internet came out of the military and had nothing to do with Congress or the President.

    • No, we really don't need "more of this."

      Since I've worked in tech, the would-be assassins of Silicon Valley that various people have claimed would bring it low and take its place has included: Seattle, Vancouver, Hell's Kitchen and the Garment District in New York, some neighborhood in Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Tustin (Orange County), San Diego, some neighborhood south of the Thames in London, Austin, Boston, some town in North Carolina, and Portland. You know what else, besides being the doom

  • by doc1623 ( 7109263 ) on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @12:04PM (#64595161)

    Why bother, unless you are going to hire some Americans.

    Personally, I don't have an issue with immigration, as a whole, but H1-B was NEVER meant to take American's jobs. It was meant for "highly skilled" jobs that we didn't have the people for. It had a minimum pay set at 60K set in 1989 that has never been raised. Every bi-partisan attempt has been buried in subcommittee never to be voted on.

    It wasn't meant to be all Indian, in IT either. Years ago, it was more diverse, but now, it's almost all Indian workers and companies. Fraud is prevalent. (I think you can find the latest administrations findings in Slashdot).

    It needs to be stopped, and completely overhauled. I would love to see what percentage of IT workers in each company has of their current IT staff are Indian. From my experience many companies would be 90%+ in the U.S. Notice I didn't say employees, because, I believe, H1-B has helped move IT to lead in professional gig work. When president and before, Trump had talked about doing something, but had a meeting with CEO's and basically dropped it, after a lot of talk to the contrary. I don't know if Bidden has done anything. Let me know what, if anything has been done under either. I know the minimum remains unchanged now for ~ 35 years

  • Turns out there are voters all across the country that we can try to bribe.

  • You admit you stopped believing a President was in charge decades ago. Change you rules so the faceless men have to sell themselves.

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