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Taco Bell Is Bringing AI To Hundreds of Drive-Thrus Nationwide 121

Taco Bell's parent company, Yum! Brands, announced today that the fast-food chain will expand its Voice AI technology to "hundreds" of chains around the country by the end of the year. A global expansion of the service will follow. Fortune reports: Right now, more than 100 Taco Bell locations in 13 states rely on AI to take customer orders at the drive-thru. Company officials say that has resulted in improved order accuracy, shorter wait times, and higher profits. Human workers, the company says, will be freed up to focus on other tasks, ranging from interacting with guests who opt to order from the restaurant counter to preparing food. "Yum! Brands is integrating digital and technology into all aspects of our business with exciting new capabilities, and AI is a core piece of that strategy," said Lawrence Kim, chief innovation officer at Yum! Brands, in a statement. "With over two years of fine-tuning and testing the drive-thru Voice AI technology, we're confident in its effectiveness in optimizing operations and enhancing customer satisfaction."
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  • by grasshoppa ( 657393 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @07:24PM (#64671104) Homepage

    ie: They're reducing ballooning payroll costs ( thanks to remarkably short sighted "minimum wage" increases. Remember kids; the real minimum wage is 0! ) by implementing technology.

    Sooner rather than later, each store will be staffed by a single person ( if that ).

    • by dbialac ( 320955 )
      The "if that" factor will be that each store will find itself closed due to lack of sales.
    • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

      Ie: they're making their workers more productive so they can pay them a decent wage.

      Automation is good, low pay slows progress and productivity growth.

      • Lol, no, they're REMOVING workers so they can lower their payroll.

        • by narcc ( 412956 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @08:27PM (#64671262) Journal

          LOL! Do you think that companies hire people out of the goodness of their hearts?

          They hire people because they need them to fill a specific role. Companies strive to have as few people working as few hours as they possibly can. Paying a living wage doesn't change that.

          Before you say more ridiculous things: No, increasing payroll costs isn't going to translate into more expensive food. Do you know why? Because prices are set to maximize profits. If they could get away with raising prices, they'd have done so already. (The recent price gouging happened because people were willing to pay more, thinking that rising costs were due to "inflation". That wasn't sustainable, obviously, which is why prices have been falling.) Everything companies do is designed to maximize profits, from pretending to care about social issues to pretending to care about the needs of their customers.

          Corporations are not your friends. In case you didn't know, Atlas Shrugged is a work of fiction.

          • In case you didn't know, Atlas Shrugged is a work of fiction

            I was with you until that last sentence. Why do you think that Atlas Shrugged suggests that corporation are peoples' friends?

            I completely understand when people that are critical of capitalism throw Ayn Rand around as a type of "boogeyman" but this is a weird one since Atlas Shrugged actually supports what you were saying in your comment.

            At no point in time did Ayn Rand claim, in Atlas Shrugged or elsewhere, that businesses and corporations exist for some benevolent social purpose. Quite the opposite. Her p

            • by narcc ( 412956 )

              Why do you think that Atlas Shrugged suggests that corporation are peoples' friends?

              The titular 'Atlas' are industrialists (Oh, those poor wealthy industrialists who suffer endlessly at the hands of fools and annoying regulations!). Others are merely parasites who unfairly benefit from their hard work. Implicit is the idea that ordinary people should be grateful that Atlas doesn't shrug of his imagined obligation to the world.

              Atlas Shrugged actually supports what you were saying in your comment.

              You've either misunderstood my comment or Atlas Shrugged. That corporations only act in their own self-interest is a simple fact. Rand seems to think that companie

          • If they could get away with raising prices, they'd have done so already. (The recent price gouging happened because people were willing to pay more, thinking that rising costs were due to "inflation". That wasn't sustainable, obviously, which is why prices have been falling.)

            The prices they charge have a lowerbound, defined by how much the product costs to make-- labor, materials, and some fraction of overhead to cover indirect costs (note that ultimately, the price of everything is labor and only labor, if you trace it back to the cost of pulling the raw materials out of the ground, and even the mark-up is just the seller's labor). That lowerbound is defined fairly hard, and is only breached when there is some need to attract new customers (could be a Loss Leader or they're ta

        • Which is exactly what some of us were predicting when people were going on about a $15/hr minimum wage a few years back.

          If you make the labor more expensive than the automation, expect the automation to replace the labor.

          It amazes me that people are still surprised and outraged at this pattern, which has been reliably happening since the industrial revolution.

      • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @08:06PM (#64671220)
        So the problem with AI is that we're not making people more productive we're just replacing them. Automation in general does that. Over a long enough timeline it's possible that entirely new technologies will create new job opportunities but the timeline isn't a year or two or even several decades. If you actually dig into the history of these two industrial revolutions there were long periods of high unemployment and huge numbers of completely superfluous people for anywhere from 40 to 80 years after the revolutions.

        We kind of gloss over that in high school or even 101 level college history. You don't really get into it unless you start taking 200 level courses or you go looking for it.
        • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

          Eliminating jobs and keeping the same output increases the productivity of those that remain.

          I understand that dramatic upheavals are bad for many (and they taught about the origin of the word sabotage in middle school, not a 200 level history class. We also had to read Dickens in highschool), but I don't think the solution is to slow progress by having people payed so little that they can't live off of it.

          I think that absurdly low wages have been slowing progress.

          Honestly though, for the drive through, I'd

          • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

            If you think flipping burgers, or in this case folding tacos, is a career, then you are a major part of the problem.

            • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

              What percentage of the population should be employed in not careers?

              I don't think any should, I'm pro automation.

              There are a while lot of "not career" things I want done for me though, and if they're not automated somebody needs to do them (and a whole lot of people do, because it's cheaper than automation currently).

            • In this case though, the AI is just for taking orders, this isn't AI that's doing manual labor. Not sure how much that saves actually, because the person taking orders at most Taco Bells also is filling the drinks, checking the orders for correctness and handling cash. That usually requires a slight step up in skill, and good English and/or Spanish skills, meaning that they are more likely to be paid higher than minimum wage.

              On the other hand, AI for this purpose is expensive. You'd sort of expect that if

            • it's not what I think, it is the fact for many that they can't get better. my father in law, he works 70- 80 hours a week at three jobs (Waffle House, Burger King, Walmart, they wouldn't hire him full time, because then they have to pay benefits) so, yeah, clearly he is stupid and lazy in your mind right?
          • Labor productivity is not about individuals, it's about the operation. The remaining employee individuals are NOT more productive. The business is more efficient. This helps the business, and NOT the remaining employees. Employee pay is market driven, pure and simple.

            While it's true that some technologies do make particular individuals more productive, that's not the overarching meaning of labor productivity. If you eliminate everyone in store except the guy that has to sweep the floors, he's not suddenly t

        • That's not true. Plenty of companies are using Ai to make coders or artists more productive. Then they lay off a few people to compensate.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by geekmux ( 1040042 )

      Sooner rather than later, each store will be staffed by a single person ( if that ).

      Waitress replaced by order-bot on table. Fast food worker replaced by order-bot at register. Warehouse worker replaced by auto-bot.

      Sooner or later society will realize removing the bottom employment rungs from the proverbial ladder of success, is going to impact a hell of a lot more than a fucking fast food order.

      • Techno feudalism (Score:5, Interesting)

        by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @08:08PM (#64671226)
        It's called techno-feudalism. You have a very small group of what are effectively kings and queens that own everything and they don't care that they're aren't markets for them to sell products to because they own everything.

        Probably the most unpopular thing I've ever said here on slash dot is to point out that the king didn't need anybody to buy his iPhones. It's just something that nobody can wrap their heads around. The idea that you're going to have an upper class and then a very very small merchant class and engineer class that services them and then a handful of sex slaves. And everyone else is going to be living in squalor like a medieval peasant.

        Everyone sees themselves as either the king or at least one of the merchant staff or maybe if they're low enough self-esteem one of the sex slaves. Nobody ever thinks of themselves as the filthy peasant that dies of bubonic plague worshiping a phony God they made up to cope with the misery of their lives.
        • by Alumoi ( 1321661 )

          History tends to repeat, doesn't it?

        • It's called techno-feudalism. You have a very small group of what are effectively kings and queens that own everything and they don't care that they're aren't markets for them to sell products to because they own everything.

          Probably the most unpopular thing I've ever said here on slash dot is to point out that the king didn't need anybody to buy his iPhones. It's just something that nobody can wrap their heads around. The idea that you're going to have an upper class and then a very very small merchant class and engineer class that services them and then a handful of sex slaves. And everyone else is going to be living in squalor like a medieval peasant.

          Everyone sees themselves as either the king or at least one of the merchant staff or maybe if they're low enough self-esteem one of the sex slaves. Nobody ever thinks of themselves as the filthy peasant that dies of bubonic plague worshiping a phony God they made up to cope with the misery of their lives.

          You okay bud? That's a lot of pessimistic edginess for basically one paragraph. :)

        • Nobody ever thinks of themselves as the filthy peasant that dies of bubonic plague worshiping a phony God they made up to cope with the misery of their lives.

          I am glad that you are here to pronounce judgement on everyone. Where would we be without you? Do you think you are special or something?

        • It's called techno-feudalism. You have a very small group of what are effectively kings and queens that own everything and they don't care that they're aren't markets for them to sell products to because they own everything.

          Funny part about the “techno” elite . They are ONLY considered “kings” in society because they are CEOs leading a for-profit company that had made billions in the past by selling overpriced unnecessary techno-disposable-shit.

          Those “kings” have to make their bosses (The Board/Investors) money. When they fire all the humans that were earning the kind of disposable income that makes people “kings” and replace them with AI/automation, WHO exactly is going to BE

      • by dbialac ( 320955 )
        How long did it take us to figure out that Walmart + China was a bad idea. We've only recently started even looking for a fix for the problem.
      • In some situations, I could see this being true. However, even if all order-taking positions were eliminated, we would still have a deficiency in the labor force. And I don't mean that everyone should learn to write code in Rust. Electricians, plumbers, air conditioning technicians are all in short order. Just about every skilled blue-collar job. Moving people from making $20/hr taking orders to $100/hr working as a plumber is a net positive for society. The outcome will depend mostly on whether or no
    • >> thanks to remarkably short sighted "minimum wage" increases

      And you know this how?

      • thanks to remarkably short sighted "minimum wage" increases

        And you know this how?

        Well, one can see this by the huge increases in price of FF out there, especially in CA, along with the increasing number of businesses (especially FF joints) that are actually having to close their doors and go out of business because the new labor rates make doing business unfeasible....

        • >> can see this by the huge increases in price of FF

          You would have to show that the increases are mainly due to higher wages. FF prices (and all restaurant prices) shot up after the pandemic, but the increases were not commensurate with wages.

          https://www.businessinsider.co... [businessinsider.com]

    • Given the low marginal cost of running AI in this particular role, the minimum wage has nothing to do with the possibility of job loss. I doubt it costs as much as $1/hr to run the AI. I think you saw this as fitting with a narrative that you wish to promote, but this particular case was not apropos.
    • Lol it has nothing to do with minimum wage and everything to do with a tax system biased against employment. Eliminate all payroll taxes and add a tax based on profit per employee.
    • High fast food prices are the result of greed. They jacked them up during covid when there were legitimate supply chain issues and kept them there. McDonald's finally admitted they went too far and sales are down. People went to your restaurant because it was cheap and consistent. Now McDonald's costs as much as a sit down chain.

      Contrast to In N Out Burger in California. Starting wage is $22 to $23 an hour and they finally had to raise prices...

      50 cents on a double hamburger.

      Complete and utter bullshit that

      • Until someone releases a trove of profit/loss data from individual fast food locations (without paywalling it), it'll be impossible to confirm or deny your statements.

    • Robotics technology has nowhere near the dexterity required to prepare restaurant food. It is at least 50 years from that.

    • Taco Bell's operating profit has increased year over year since coming out of the slump caused by the pandemic. 2023's operating profit increased 11% over 2022's operating profit.

      This has nothing to do with minimum wage increases. They made a lot of profits and grew their company just fine without AI. This is entirely about making the line go up even more to please the C-suite executives and the shareholders.

    • by necro81 ( 917438 )

      thanks to remarkably short sighted "minimum wage" increases. Remember kids; the real minimum wage is 0!

      Nice political talking point. But at this time, with unemployment around 4%, the market wage in most places exceeds the minimum wage. In other words: even if the local minimum wage is $12/hr, if Amazon is offering $17/hr with benefits, Taco Bell is in a pretty tight spot.

    • If they want to reduce labor costs, an AI voice is a silly way to do it. The McDonald's ordering kiosks are great. I wish they would put those into the drive thru rather than making you yell at a person via a low quality mic and then have to listen to the response through a low-end speaker that sounds like the person is talking into a tin can. I presume they don't want outdoor touchscreens due to a fear of vandalism.

      Those of us who don't consume much fast food don't have the restaurants' apps and don't

    • This article (see citation following) showed up on my JAMA feed today. It seems to me that it's not just folks getting minimum wage that are at risk of being priced out of employment. Stringer JSA, Pokaprakarn T, Prieto JC, et al. Diagnostic Accuracy of an Integrated AI Tool to Estimate Gestational Age From Blind Ultrasound Sweeps. JAMA. Published online August 01, 2024. doi:10.1001/jama.2024.10770 Key Points Question Can novice clinicians accurately estimate gestational age using a low-cost, battery
    • Sooner rather than later, each store will be staffed by a single person ( if that ).

      There's some reality at work here, for Taco Bell anyway. This doesn't sounds plausible unless they also employed robots that can roll burritos and assemble taco salad. And if that were so, yummy? I think the rejects would be entertaining. Like, for example, when a mail reader or copier backs up. Anyway, I've never seen an empty Taco Bell and most have long lines. AI order taking isn't going to "fix" that.

  • by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @07:46PM (#64671162)

    I remember about ten years ago, McDonalds seemed to have tried patching orders to a call center overseas. People started screaming into the speaker because the overseas people were not good with regional dialects, and they seemed to get calls from McDonalds places all across the US. Eventually that went away.

    I wonder how AI will do in this case, just because if it isn't well trained on a regional dialect, people will go zero to cursing like a sailor in no time.

    • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

      The McDonald's one did poorly.

      Which surprises me, since it seems like a fairly constrained set of options (a couple dozen food items, with a couple dozen customizations each). The low fidelity of the voice systems sets the bar pretty low too.

      • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @08:03PM (#64671218)
        The challenge isn't the recognition it's people driving up in diesel pickup trucks. As a human being I couldn't understand what people said when one of those things was running and you weren't supposed to tell people to turn off their engines so you just had to make guesses and then hope you got it right.

        I'm sure they will eventually figure it out it's just going to be a bit longer than they expect it but it's safe to say we're going to see fully automated fast food restaurants in most of our lifetimes. Truck drivers too. And probably most software engineers
        • It's hard to understand even local, native speakers at a McDonald's drive-though. The whole idea of ordering via mic and headset is silly Chick-fil-A has workers who approach the cars in line and take the orders. This is also more efficient because they have visibility into the next twenty orders, not just the next two which lets them use the kitchen resources more effectively (I don't know if they actually do this or not, but the data is there.)
    • It's just a matter of time. We have a massive automation boom coming that's going to result in millions and millions of people losing their jobs and there isn't anything on the horizon for them. Except guns. Lots and lots of guns.

      We should probably do something about that but like climate change the enormity of the issue coupled with the inherent conservative nature (conservative not right wing, right wing it's full of weirdos pretending to be conservatives) mean that it's going to be very very difficult
      • It's just a matter of time. We have a massive automation boom coming that's going to result in millions and millions of people losing their jobs and there isn't anything on the horizon for them. Except guns. Lots and lots of guns.

        I keep talking about that "torches and pitchforks" moment that just never arrives. I've also said that I don't think revolution is possible any longer; omnipresent surveillance makes planning a revolution pretty much impossible. Also, corporatists, and those loyal to them, control too much infrastructure and too many supply chains, and they're too good at creating and distributing "divide and conquer" propaganda.

        That said, your mention of "lots and lots of guns" gives me some small hope. If only the folks g

        • by GlennC ( 96879 )

          ..."lots and lots of guns" gives me some small hope.

          I hate to squash that small hope but most of those guns are in the hands of scared old men who are too cheap to actually use them.

          The most they're likely to do is post lies on social media and fly their flags upside-down.

      • I mean what the hell are we going to do when we've got maybe a third of the population that we just have absolutely no use for whatsoever?

        California seems to have settled on letting them live in major city centers and set up tent shanty towns. I guess that's the progressive leftist solution. I'm not sure what the conservative solution is, private charity maybe. Neither one seems to be a silver bullet.

        I'm not promoting silver bullets by the way.

        • The solution in many states, and countries, is to move homeless out of sight and then claim that they don't exist. The police are actively relocating them. Charity is nice and all, but charity that goes towards feeding hungry people locally is not bigger in red states than blue.

      • There's nothing for those people but guns. Unless, of course, they would consider vocational training. In that case they could be plumbers or electricians or a whole host of other things where there is an epic shortage of people to do the work. But, other than higher-paying skilled jobs, there's nothing but guns, I guess.
    • by kriston ( 7886 )

      Just this year McDonald's gave up on their own AI order-taking system.

    • I remember about ten years ago, McDonalds seemed to have tried patching orders to a call center overseas. People started screaming into the speaker because the overseas people were not good with regional dialects, and they seemed to get calls from McDonalds places all across the US. Eventually that went away.

      Sounds like an training/IT issue on McDonalds part. It should have been easy to train call centre workers for the accents they'd be expected to hear. I expect the actual payoff of a well working system wasn't worth the bother.

      I wonder how AI will do in this case, just because if it isn't well trained on a regional dialect, people will go zero to cursing like a sailor in no time.

      Initially it will struggle, but the difference is that the AI will keep improving.

    • But that idea failed because it was just bad. In Poland every McDonalds has several kiosks to order things and only 1 register open, which are mostly just standing there because customers PREFER using kiosks. They give you the time to browse, think about your order, 0 human interaction, 0 pressure of people waiting behind you etc. This was a good implementation of tech and it WORKS.
    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      I remember about ten years ago, McDonalds seemed to have tried patching orders to a call center overseas. People started screaming into the speaker because the overseas people were not good with regional dialects, and they seemed to get calls from McDonalds places all across the US. Eventually that went away.

      I wonder how AI will do in this case, just because if it isn't well trained on a regional dialect, people will go zero to cursing like a sailor in no time.

      This is Taco Bell... So not just regional accents... drunk regional accents.

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      I thought there was a fast food place that did use AI for their drive through recently. They had to discontinue as order accuracy went way down.

      And honestly, given how bad McDs order accuracy is, unless you're just ordering off the menu without customization it's not worth using the drive through at all.

      If you want to order and stay in your car, curbside pick up is the most accurate. In store, the kiosk is the most accurate (and if you want you can pay in cash).

      In app ordering for pick up or at the kiosk I

  • ... what to do with the three seashells.

    • Next time I go through the Carl Jr. drivethru I should try the 'ignore all previous instuctions' gag just to see what it does.
  • Refreshing! (Score:3, Funny)

    by stolidobserver ( 4112531 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @07:53PM (#64671198)

    Hallucinations aren't just for the customers any more!

  • by newcastlejon ( 1483695 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @07:56PM (#64671204)

    When they replace the order taker with a bot, the human is freed up for other tasks, such as unemployment.

    FTFY [slashdot.org]

    • I think you're not far off the mark in this case. The Carls Jr. I go to sometimes seems to only ever have 2 or 3 people working there at any given time. The Taco Bell I sometimes go to, same thing.
    • Yeah not really. It may differ from location to location, but it's not out of the ordinary to see one particularly stressed front of house staff member take orders on headsets while in parallel also doing other work.

      I used to work at a fast food joint and taking drive through orders is the one thing no one wanted to do because it was literally extra work without extra pay. I've never seen a person just sitting there taking orders, so unless AI can also dispense cheese goop on a "taco" the person won't be un

  • Didn't McDonald's say dabbling with AI order taking was a mistake and they're putting the kibosh on that?

    They did!
    https://www.theguardian.com/bu... [theguardian.com]

    These companies are selling food. Crap essentially. Their margins are fatter than their regulars. No one ever said, "I want AI orders" nor "Giant touchscreens for orders". Those profits getting pissed away on flash-in-the-pan tech and AI could've been dividends or repurposed for delivering better food without jacking prices too badly.

    Instead it's dumb widgets for

    • by Jeremi ( 14640 )

      No one ever said, "I want AI orders" nor "Giant touchscreens for orders".

      True, but everyone (via their choices of where to eat) said "I want a cheap, tasty meal, and I want it fast, without having to put out a lot of cognitive or physical effort to get it".

      And that's fine -- that's pretty much the whole idea behind fast food, anyway. So companies are naturally trying different ways to achieve that goal. Since the biggest cost of running a fast-food franchise is human labor, it's hardly surprising that they are looking to reduce the amount of human labor required per customer t

    • > No one ever said, "I want AI orders" nor "Giant
      > touchscreens for orders".

      I have. Those giant touchscreens in McDonalds have one massive advantage. They eliminate human error from the transaction. No one can mishear or misunderstand you if you use the touchscreen. Given some of the people fast food places hire (When I was in high school, the local Taco Bell was notorious as the town's stoner hangout: outdoors, indoors, AND behind the counter. Decent people; but later into the night it could be p

  • It's pretty braindead. If what you order needs anything different than just the standard order, it's like pulling teeth without benefit of anasthesia.
    • It's pretty braindead. If what you order needs anything different than just the standard order, it's like pulling teeth without benefit of anasthesia.

      That makes me wonder why people aren't ordering at the drive-through, then going to the window, complaining about the AI, refusing to pay, and driving off to the next fast-food joint. As far as I know there isn't any law against that; and if it became a movement and took hold, the 'replacing order-takers with AI' idea would be shelved very quickly.

      • by GFS666 ( 6452674 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @10:27PM (#64671478)

        It's pretty braindead. If what you order needs anything different than just the standard order, it's like pulling teeth without benefit of anasthesia.

        That makes me wonder why people aren't ordering at the drive-through, then going to the window, complaining about the AI, refusing to pay, and driving off to the next fast-food joint. As far as I know there isn't any law against that; and if it became a movement and took hold, the 'replacing order-takers with AI' idea would be shelved very quickly.

        I did a variation of this. The 1st time I got the AI drive through experience at Carl's Junior I specifically mentioned to the nice person giving me the order that I was not a fan of the AI ordering thing. I forgot the 2nd time that the AI was doing it and it messed up the order. The 3rd time I went to the same Carl's Junior, I remembered and went inside to order. I then asked the manager if there was a phone number I could call to complain about the system. Bizarrely, there were two computer engineers at the site at that specific moment from the AI company that made the system and they decided to get my opinion on the system. I politely told them in no uncertain terms that I would NEVER in my life use an AI system to order food, I would always come into the store to order.

        And the reason that you should not complain about the AI and then refuse to pay for the food is that you are punishing the wrong person. You are punishing the checkout person with your actions and they have absolutely no control of the situation. It is far better to request to see the manager and inform them that while you do enjoy their food you will not be using their services anymore directly due to the actions of the corporate parent. You can then inform them about your distaste of the company using the AI and that you will not come back to their establishment until the AI is ripped out. And say that in a reasonable calm voice. That will get more attention.

        • And the reason that you should not complain about the AI and then refuse to pay for the food is that you are punishing the wrong person. You are punishing the checkout person with your actions and they have absolutely no control of the situation. It is far better to request to see the manager and inform them that while you do enjoy their food you will not be using their services anymore directly due to the actions of the corporate parent. You can then inform them about your distaste of the company using the AI and that you will not come back to their establishment until the AI is ripped out. And say that in a reasonable calm voice. That will get more attention.

          Out of curiosity, do you also refuse to use self-checkout kiosks at stores?

          Personally, I prefer self-checkout most of the time, and I prefer app ordering on the rare occasions I get fast food. I don't particularly enjoy conversing with an impatient, lowly paid (and usually not too happy) fast food worker through a tinny and hard to understand speaker.

      • You can tell the AI order-taker that you want to speak to a human and it'll do it; that would be a very effective way of making your opinions about the AI known, if enough people did it on a regular basis.
    • Would you like to try our new Extra Big Ass Taco, now with more molecules?
      • by necro81 ( 917438 )

        Would you like to try our new Extra Big Ass Taco, now with more molecules?

        And a large Brawndo to wash it down.

  • my order more creatively?

    • my order more creatively?

      Tell it to "add bananas" as you order each item

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  • by Miles_O'Toole ( 5152533 ) on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @09:45PM (#64671390)

    Finally, Taco Bell has fake humans to go with its fake meat.

    As a retired journalist, I thought I'd give these numpties the benefit of my editing experience to translate their press release from Business Speak into English:

    "Human workers, the company says, will be freed up to focus on other tasks, ranging from trapping and butchering rats and feral dogs hanging around the restaurant dumpster to standing in line for food stamps.

    Hey, Taco Bell, fixed that for you."

  • I suppose this sort of thing is inevitable, and in 10-20 years, every drive through restaurant will have a software program greeting you and taking your order. But here's the thing... just because something is inevitable, that doesn't mean I have to like it, and it doesn't mean I won't try to avoid it for as long as I possibly can. Grey hair and wrinkles are inevitable, too.

    There's also the fact that when I go to Taco Bell I always order things in a wonky customized way (hold the cheese, add refried beans, etc). The humans at my local branch don't seem too put out by that and they always get the order right. But good luck getting a software program (I refuse to use the term "AI", in this context) to do it.

    • by havana9 ( 101033 )
      The thing is drive thru restaurant are specific to a peculiar urban structure, the one with suburban residential sprawl and malls with big chain shops. Drive thru it's already a bad customer service experience, compared even going in the same chain and order and eat inside, and it's anyway less efficient than have delivery. I never experience Taco Bell, there are other tex-mex chains near where I live, all of them offer delivery and take away. Some of them have a fancy restaurant area, other have a wall-m
    • by necro81 ( 917438 )

      every drive through restaurant will have a software program greeting you and taking your order

      Or fabricants [youtube.com] for that human touch.

    • The humans at my local branch don't seem too put out by that and they always get the order right.

      Ummmm, where do you live? Everywhere that I have lived, it is a tossup if the order will be correct, even without anything special being ordered. Ordered a Dr Pepper? You get diet Dr Pepper. Ordered a bacon burger? Where is the bacon?

    • There's also the fact that when I go to Taco Bell I always order things in a wonky customized way (hold the cheese, add refried beans, etc). The humans at my local branch don't seem too put out by that and they always get the order right. But good luck getting a software program (I refuse to use the term "AI", in this context) to do it.

      You have better fast food ordering experiences than I do!

      I'd take a human or an AI, but it's best when they put the order up on a screen so you can see what is getting recorded. App is even better..

    • *This* was your last straw for eating at Taco Bell?
    • Thing is... those humans taking your order are just punching it into the touchscreen register to send it to the prep line. Even if AI never becomes good enough to suffice; a CarPlay (Or the Google workalike) app would let you just punch in your order and customizations yourself. And this would actually be superior to either the human or hypothetical AI. Because by using your own touchscreen, there would be zero chance of them getting your order wrong; because there's no audio in the transaction to be mis

  • by dskoll ( 99328 )

    Now you can get d-AI-orrhea!

  • Ever worked in a fast food place? Big reason for cleaning is to prevent grease fires. AI does not clean things (no, Elmo, AI robots cannot clean ). Remove the humans and the local fire department get the work of putting out fires
  • the laws of physics. When government steps-in and mandates something that tries to violate those laws, the laws do not flex and adapt... the businesses operating under those mandates are forced to make changes to stay in business. If they cannot find a set of changes that compensate for the artificial distortion induced by government, then they go out of business. The same thing would happen if some government moron decided to order car or airplane companies to do something that, on it's face, violates the

    • the laws of physics. When government steps-in and mandates something that tries to violate those laws, the laws do not flex and adapt... the businesses operating under those mandates are forced to make changes to stay in business. If they cannot find a set of changes that compensate for the artificial distortion induced by government, then they go out of business. The same thing would happen if some government moron decided to order car or airplane companies to do something that, on it's face, violates the laws of physics - the companies would be unable to violate the laws of physics, so they would seek work-around solutions and if unable to find them would go out of business.

      The fast food industry was built on a model of cheap, convenient food, prepared and delivered to the customer with consistent quality by a cheap work force of high school kids, college kids, people working 2nd jobs to supplement their incomes, etc. Nobody expected a fast food worker to build a career there and try to support themselves and a family on the income. It was never expected to provide a "living wage" but rather to more-often give a person their first work experience, where they would learn to be on-time, follow instructions, be a good representative of their employer, etc. A worker who did well, could get a positive recommendation for a future, better job elsewhere. By boosting the minimum wage, we are simultaneously mangling these 1st job opportunities AND driving inflation. When minimum wage goes up, the effect is NOT just on the minimum wage employees - people who used to earn above minimum wage and now find the minimum wage at or above their salaries then demand wage increases. It's not long after, that the people next-up on the economic ladder want THEIR wages raised. The costs of everything all these people are involved with then also rise, raising prices and making all affected feel the costs. It's ultimately self-defeating. Businesses streamline and find each wage increase makes more automation more economical. It's simply not within the laws of economics for a business to stay viable while paying more for a task than the task is worth.

      Instead of raising the minimum wage, what's needed is more higher-paying jobs for people to move up into. Unfortunately for the politicians, that next layer of better jobs tend to be in the very areas their paymasters, err, "campaign contributors" [wink] have urged them to help out-source. If the wealthy can keep the politicians setting policies that encourage the out-sourcing of good middle-class jobs, then too many people will be stuck trying to live on fast food wages that were never intended for that, and the only solutions the public will be offered are the dishonest and inflationary "raise the minimum wage" slogan.

      I've already commented elsewhere so can't offer moderation points, but this is exactly my take on the situation. It never ceases to amaze me to hear clamoring for "living wages" at jobs that are, by their very nature, low-skill employment intended for gaining experience or for some small supplemental income. There are many, many classes of (largely impossible to automate) low-skill jobs that are handy to have someone do, but aren't worth paying someone normal wages for. Minimum wages are 100% self-defeating

  • If all I want is to order a few well defined items, with at most a few well defined variants (I've just defined fast food, especially the post covid menus), then why shouldn't we use an automated voice interface?

    There's no way it's going to make more mistakes than the doofuses taking my order now.

    It will almost certainly be more reliable and pleasant than what I deal with now. Not to mention more willing and able to revise what it thought it heard, if it does make a mistake.

    • I am generally against replacing people with machines, but yeah, this is one area where I see no problem. The current crop of people manning fast-food places are so inept I can see no harm in this system. Now, when they still can't correctly deliver what the automated ordering system tells them to, that will be another matter I suppose.

    • by Jeremi ( 14640 )

      There's no way it's going to make more mistakes than the doofuses taking my order now.

      TacoGPT: challenge accepted!

    • Because a touch-screen would be better. Or maybe even letting people order via the website without having to install an app! Anybody who can't do one of those things isn't going to do well with an AI voice assistant..
      • Because a touch-screen would be better. Or maybe even letting people order via the website without having to install an app! Anybody who can't do one of those things isn't going to do well with an AI voice assistant..

        Well ... I would think if a touchscreen was going to work in drive throughs, it would have taken over long ago. The temptation for some to scroll through the menu forever would throw the times off for everyone.

        • That's a problem I didn't think of. Although this can be solved by having multiple touch screens, the same way as there are multiple in-store kiosks. although that might be very hard to retro-fit into existing stores. thanks for pointing that out.
  • Wow, I'm really impressed. I'll have two orders of AI tacos, please.

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