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As 17,000 AT&T Workers Strike, Some Customers Experience 'Prolonged' Outages (newsobserver.com) 40

17,000 AT&T workers from the CWA union went on strike Friday. NPR notes the strike affects workers in nine states: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee. A North Carolina newspaper says the union will remain on strike until they believe AT&T "begins to bargain over a new contract in good faith" after their previous contract expired back on August 3.

And meanwhile, their article notes that the strike comes as some AT&T customers in North Carolina's Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area "report prolonged internet outages." Saturday afternoon, AT&T also reported internet outages within a circle of northern Charlotte neighborhoods. "As far as the impact, the trained, experienced CWA members who are on strike do critical work installing, maintaining and supporting AT&T's residential and business wireline telecommunications network," CWA communications director Beth Allen said. "Customers should be aware that these workers will not be available to respond to service calls during the strike."

Since at least Wednesday, AT&T internet customers in Durham have reported being without residential service. According to the company's website, outages have been detected across a wide section of the city, including downtown and around Duke University.

AT&T has alerted some affected residents in southwest Durham their internet service "should be online" by Tuesday morning.

An AT&T spokesperson told the newspaper that "We have various business continuity measures in place to avoid disruptions to operations and will continue to provide our customers with the great service they expect."

A union executive said in a statement that AT&T's contract negotiators "did not seem to have the actual bargaining authority required by the legal obligation to bargain in good faith. Our members want to be on the job, providing the quality service that our customers deserve. It's time for AT&T to start negotiating in good faith so that we can move forward towards a fair contract."
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As 17,000 AT&T Workers Strike, Some Customers Experience 'Prolonged' Outages

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  • by Bob_Who ( 926234 ) on Sunday August 18, 2024 @12:05AM (#64714964) Journal

    As a long time customer of these scoundrels I have years of experience with AT&T charging more for less, letting capacity flounder, letting contracts expire, throttling internet,, shitty TV, satellite, always the stingiest deal around. I hate them, they suck as much Comcast and Ticketmaster May they twist and turn and burn.

    • The CWA and AT&T seem to be in disagreement about maintaining the critical infrastructure during the strike.

      • * CWA communications director Beth Allen said. "Customers should be aware that these workers will not be available to respond to service calls during the strike."
      • * An AT&T spokesperson told the newspaper that "We have various business continuity measures in place to avoid disruptions to operations and will continue to provide our customers with the great service they expect."

      Internet access

      • Imagine if the essential internet services could be sabotaged because a foreign power decided to go to war.
      • * An AT&T spokesperson told the newspaper that "We have various business continuity measures in place to avoid disruptions to operations and will continue to provide our customers with the great service they expect."

        Business continuity measures == untrained salaried workers doing the job

        I knew a project manager who worked at ATT as a strike was looming. Everyone physically capable of doing the labor-intensive work would be required to do so. Everyone else would be expected to work 80+ hour weeks at their current jobs, to pick up the slack.

      • At least in some parts of the country you can switch providers to re-establish your internet, that has never been true for electricity.
      • Internet service id essential like electricity or water? Geezus. Kids today..
        • Internet service id essential like electricity or water? Geezus. Kids today..

          Yup. How else they gonna start their car in the morning or adjust their thermostat in their crackerbox apartment or order their favorite chai or bubble tea at the shoppe?

        • by sjames ( 1099 )

          My power, gas, and water bills are paid over the internet. The pharmacy has so thoroughly understaffed that refilling the prescription in advance over the internet is the only way to get needed prescriptions in a reasonable timeframe. After repeated stories about mail moving slowly due to problems at a local distribution center, I saw a news item (over the internet) of a postal worker that was dumping the mail in the woods so he would have time to pull over somewhere and do drugs. Many students receive and

      • Legally, it is not an essential service - usually internet access is legally classed as an entertainment service. But changing that might curb telcos of their ability to rob customers for profit, so they fight any such changes tooth and nail. And "business continuity measures" means that AT&T will be having a mix of low-level management (who don't know how to do the job) and offshore contractors (who also don't know how to do the job, likely cannot communicate well, and are paid a pittance), occasional
      • " We have various business continuity measures in place to avoid disruptions to operations and will continue to provide our customers with the great service they expect. "

        So, I'll explain this statement for everyone.

        " Various Business Continuity Measures " means the Company is pulling management employees who have zero experience or training in an attempt to fill the gaps by the non-management workforce that is currently on strike. It's akin to Steve over in Sales trying to do the job of Robert the Systems

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        Internet access is now considered an essential service like electricity and water. Imagine if power could be turned off to whole neighborhoods because the linemen decided to go on strike.

        That's generally why there are two things - 1) linemen are paid extremely well (they better be - they're out in the heat and weather), and second is essential services. Basically if a powerline falls and leaves you without electricity, even during a strike those workers can be called to repair the line and get you going aga

    • As a long time customer of these scoundrels I have years of experience with AT&T charging more for less, letting capacity flounder, letting contracts expire, throttling internet,, shitty TV, satellite, always the stingiest deal around. I hate them, they suck as much Comcast and Ticketmaster May they twist and turn and burn.

      So that's the fine experience you got from these union workers?

      • by zeiche ( 81782 )

        who actually thinks union workers set the prices and service levels?

        get a grip on reality.

        • by Bob_Who ( 926234 )

          who actually thinks union workers set the prices and service levels?

          Why don't you explain your own rhetorical insinuations because I have no clue what you think.

          get a grip on reality.

          As opposed to what? Your dividends?

      • by Bob_Who ( 926234 )

        So that's the fine experience you got from these union workers?

        That the fine experience of their employees which is why they are on strike. After all, employees are as exploited as everyone else they rip off.

    • As a long time customer of these scoundrels I have years of experience with AT&T charging more for less, letting capacity flounder, letting contracts expire, throttling internet,, shitty TV, satellite, always the stingiest deal around. I hate them, they suck as much Comcast and Ticketmaster May they twist and turn and burn.

      While what you say maybe was true, it no longer is true. Comcast is much better. I've bounced back and forth between AT&T and Comcast and have currently been on Comcast for the last 4 years because, well, here's why. I was pretty happy with AT&T in general in the previous decade except they kept charging me more and more every year. I did check Comcast and to get similar service, i couldn't really get anything cheaper from them. However, AT&T didn't know that. So I threatened to cance

  • by Chuck Hamlin ( 6194058 ) on Sunday August 18, 2024 @12:07AM (#64714968)
    I was at Qwest long ago when a strike was threatened a couple of times and my former outside tech colleague was scaring me with how the company would force us to do their strikers' work, when I was not trained for it and not even sure I could physically do some of it- slinging big heavy ladders around and climbing poles with a belt and spikes (THAT'S a highly risky skill you don't pick up overnight). "PAY THEM!"
    • That's Management shooting themselves in the foot. Sending untrained people to do hazardous work without proper safety training or PPE is a gigantic fine, and would most likely count as a willful violation.

      Yes, up a ladder is by OSHA definition hazardous. Do you know the proper pre-use safety inspection rules for a ladder? Do you know the tie off requirements?

      • by sjames ( 1099 )

        Also, do you know what things up on the pole you should never touch? Which things you can't even get near?

  • by bubblyceiling ( 7940768 ) on Sunday August 18, 2024 @03:10AM (#64715126)
    If AT&T execs are hoping to garner some public sympathy and earn a few million $ worth of bonuses, those days are long gone. They need to find a way to resolve disputes and work with the unions to find a way forward.
  • The utility monopolies, even if that does mean multiple sets of wires.

    The labor monopolies too. Why the fuck am I not allowed to work and get paid if 50%+1 of my coworkers decide to strike?

    • by dbialac ( 320955 )

      Why the fuck am I not allowed to work and get paid if 50%+1 of my coworkers decide to strike?

      Because after it you end up with your benefits protected and a higher take home wage that is adjusted for inflation.

    • Why the fuck am I not allowed to work and get paid if 50%+1 of my coworkers decide to strike?

      Because we've all agreed to follow a mutually negotiated set of rules around strikes, so that they don't get resolved by your employer hiring mercenaries to kill your coworkers' leadership, or by your coworkers tracking you down and beating you senseless for trying to help take away their childrens' medical care,

      • Read: the mafia thugs and the communist pols they helped elect wrote the laws that say other people get to declare themselves as my legal representative and if I don't like it I can pound sand or get my legs broke.

        Very progressive.

        The more I read the history of the New Deal and the American labor movement the more glad I am that even in Liberal Massachusetts I can keep a gun in the house.

    • by sjames ( 1099 )

      At least until the utility monopolies are broken AND competition is well established, labor unions will be needed.

      Realistically, even after that because there will always be less employers than employees, making it easier for the employer to get a new employee than it is for the employee to get a new employer.

      The alternative is a whole lot of laws protecting employees so they don't need a union to keep working conditions, pay, and safety within reason.

      • The answer to too few employers is to both up antimonopoly enforcement and to structure the tax code and regulatory environment to not favor consolidation of medium sized businesses into a small number of too big to fail behemoths.

    • The labor monopolies too. Why the fuck am I not allowed to work and get paid if 50%+1 of my coworkers decide to strike?

      I can only presume that it's because you, of your own free will, chose to take a job at a place that has that kind of relationships with unions. Non-union employees are free to keep working here. Are you looking for the government to intervene and outlaw the consequences of your actions?

  • by sjames ( 1099 )

    An AT&T spokesperson told the newspaper that "We have various business continuity measures in place to avoid disruptions to operations and will continue to provide our customers with the great service they expect."

    and

    AT&T has alerted some affected residents in southwest Durham their internet service "should be online" by Tuesday morning.

    There's a lie here somewhere. Either nobody has come to expect great service, or they have no effective business continuity.

    Does anyone remember when networks strived for fine nines uptime and usually came pretty close?

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