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How a UK Treaty Could Spell the End of the .io Domain (theverge.com) 18

AmiMoJo writes: A treaty finalized by the UK may bring about the end of the .io domain. Last week, the British government announced that it has agreed to give up ownership of the Chagos Islands, a territory in the Indian Ocean it has controlled since 1814 -- relinquishing the .io domain with it.

The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has a process for retiring old country code domains within five years (with the possibility for extensions). The IANA established this rule after the Soviet Union's .su domain lingered after its collapse, becoming a domain commonly used among cybercriminals. Since then, IANA has also had to retire the .yu domain previously used for Yugoslavia, but it remained operational for years following the country's breakup while government websites transitioned to new domains. And while the independent Solomon Islands does have the domain name .sb, where 'B' stands for how it used to be a British protectorate, that domain was registered decades after it achieved independence. The UK still has the inactive .gb domain as well, but it's considering getting rid of it.

How a UK Treaty Could Spell the End of the .io Domain

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  • For .gb the blog post [blog.gov.uk] is nice and clear. It's not clear what's happening, though, as the domain [iana.org] is still around, rather than being retired in 2023.

    • by Zocalo ( 252965 )
      Kudos to the civil servant that worked the Hamlet references into that blog post. Bravo, Sir! :-)

      My vote would probably be that we want to hold on to .gb. Given the demographic shifts, political divisions between Unionists in Northern Ireland, and the frictions caused between Brexit and the Good Friday Agreement, Irish unification is probably just a matter of time, especially since the right to a referendum on this is codified in the Good Friday Agreement. If Northern Ireland does leave the union, and
  • ... their TLD sinks with them?

    Hmm, might want to hedge my bets [wikipedia.org] on the ".tv" domains I was thinking about buying.

    • by unrtst ( 777550 )

      Hmm, might want to hedge my bets [wikipedia.org] on the ".tv" domains I was thinking about buying.

      It's almost like we shouldn't be misappropriating CC TLD's just because it's nifty. That rug will be pulled out from under someone when it's suddenly no longer a rug - which is what's happening here.

      And on the other end of that, IMO we *should* be making much broader use of CC TLD's for regional and personal use. For example, it'd be nice if we had more use along the lines of "mycompany.new-york.ny.us". Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

      • Why would you want a ny.us domain for a company that will be sold to China in the near future?

        That's (one of) the problems of regional domains. It ties you (your companies) identity to a political jurisdiction. Which might be fine for those bureaucrats who want to hang on to your tax revenue. But not so good if you get tired of their shenannigans and try to leave.

        I have a friend with a business domain name whose ISP got bought out by Microsoft years ago. He recieved an e-mail informing him that he would h

  • I rarely pay attention to something like this, but I will have to circle around to my docker and k8s deployments because I recall a few of images referenced in the io TLD. But if the owners just re-register their domains it shouldn't be a problem.

    • But if the owners just re-register their domains it shouldn't be a problem.

      There are probably way too many inbound links to GitHub Pages (subdomains of github.io) and Itch Direct (subdomains of itch.io) to fix in a reasonable time. Change my mind.

  • I remember the .su (soviet union) was a mess handled by the .ru domain people. And I remember the .yu was a mess for years too and multiple new countries that wanted it. IANA were right to make new rules, all the .io domain should disappear in 3-5 years.
  • by TheNameOfNick ( 7286618 ) on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @11:21AM (#64851125)

    Never give up domains that you've used extensively, not as an individual, not as a company and not as a country. It breaks stuff and is a major security risk. Domains are forever, and we should change the system to reflect that. Maybe you can't use the domain unless you pay for the infrastructure to host it, but having to keep paying essentially arbitrary prices for domains just to be able to "own" them is not in line with what domains are and how they are used. Make the upfront price reflect ownership, but stop that everybody-is-a-renter model.

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      Domains are forever, and we should change the system to reflect that.

      I tend to agree; the policy really should be ccTLDs must continue to operate forever, so long as they have existing domain registrants willing to pay the cost of the registry and willing to organize a registry amongst themselves if necessary to take over the operation, BUT there is also a strong requirement to maintain accurate WHOIS and eliminate Abandoned domains, Abused domains, and domains with Inaccurate whois Registrant info and Cont

      • I mentioned a separation of infrastructure cost and ownership. Operating a domain should not be a monopoly situation, and owning a domain should be a one-time cost. Clearly the cost of hosting the domain at the first level is not just an upfront cost, but suppose the registry wouldn't have to operate the servers, just publish the zone in a defined way, and let DNS resolver operators provide what is now offered by the root and first level servers. With signed records, this should be an almost transparent cha

  • At fifty bucks times a zillion it's not going to evaporate.

    Perhaps it will become a GTLD and perhaps somebody will pay a small fortune for that property transfer.

    If they stubbornly refuse we might just resecede the Indian Stream Republic and call it Independence Operation to save the tech industry.

  • the .io domain around so we can use it when we have a colony on the innermost of the Galilean Jovian moons.

  • These islands include the joint US/UK base at Diego Garcia - is that lease still going to be honored?

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